True...

I mean there is some level to it? Mostly using it to quickly traverse the map and using it to trick people seems handy

​@@sho829I don't know, I think making Baby level 1 basically completely skip the combat mechanics of the game just really takes the edge out of this kind of stealth villain gameplay. What's the point in tricking the enemy if getting caught results in literally no danger? It also, in my humble opinion, really undercuts the identity this game has compared to similar 1vX games. This is basically "asymmetrical slasher but with DBZ combat". Removing the DBZ combat just makes this game freeze tag in a too overly large arena.

I love being forced to watch his evolution cutscene!

I love getting shot by his homing ki blasts!

@@kelvincha5492 and i love getting infected and losing one of my active skills

How I see it, he was designed to perfectly counter the season 5 survivor meta before they got nerfed to the ground, and they never adjusted him for that.

I swear every game against him, I'm usually the first out of everyone to be downed every time.

Technicly he dosent instant kill you, he dose instant "first Down" however, and Seals 1 skill as a result

It's not op because while he's lv 1 he's literally the saibamen but can't fly or shoot ki blasts You can't die but that also means your stuck as him If they got the stm out while your lv 1 you are screwed because you can't damage it And if you don't have anyone downed when lv 2 and the stm is out unless your playing against incompetent players your run is pretty much over because they will annihilate you

​@@gabrielchastain6091also babg can't infect you while you're d-changed where saibamrn can still down you

​@@Soapromanceryes he can lol

​@@Soapromancer It can...

I swear someone's going to try placing infected Civs on the STM'S spawn point so no survivors can work on it This is literally a possible thing to do, it's just that no one tried to do it yet

​@@kelvincha5492good idea I might try

​@@kelvincha5492how do you place infected civs?

Him being invincible doesn't matter at lv 1 because he can't fly or shoot ki blasts meaning he's easy to escape from if you see him It's incredibly hard to get outta lv 1 fast unless your lucky because everyone just gets away before you ever reach them His lv 2 isn't that broken without any infected survivors and his lv 3 is alright But still can be overwhelmed like any other raider His lv 4 is broken. But it's literally ape Vegeta with the ability to summon so can't argue against that Also I'm glad he spawns in with automatically infected civs and the fact you can't hear him Because it turns him into a horror raider which is literally what this game should have had from the beginning with Cell If he doesn't spawn with civs automatically then survivors don't have to worry about it that much and if he makes noise he would be so easy to escape it would be pathetic Baby is a horror villain and I don't think they should change him at all except maybe make it take more civs to get into lv 3 or 4

​@@gabrielchastain6091he does make noise as well his footsteps are loud af and easily discernable to9

and an immortal frieza can still be stunned, knocked away, and won't instakill you when he finds you

Literally, every cutscene interrupts anything. Rescuing a civ? Not any more. Reviving a guy on 0 seconds? Too late now! Was you about to finish the key? Well, keep holding through the cutscene... nerd! Also, getting randomly teleported when he transforms sometimes.

Each of those transformations could be 3 or 4 ticks of the STM, but not this raider.

The problem with requiring them to run up to you and force you to not move is that to counter that all they would have to do is completely ignore civs. From the looks of it, saving civilians isn’t mandatory. So anyone who has played against baby once would know to just ignore civs and it’s a free game

Sometimes that doesn't work. I was literally baby second form. They got the dragon balls and I was able to defeat it just by using babies overpowered spamming attacks. I swear they need it. Tone down those attacks. If a second form raider can defeat a level 4 survivor you have a problem. With a game

He's like a worse saibaman imagine if you could kill him

One of the main goals of the survivors is to save civilians, which lvl1 baby is, so they refuse to attack as that would likely kill them.

Technically speaking. Once he's infected someone he's nearly unkillable because so long as a part of him is in an infected person he can essentially have infinite lives. In the case here this basically ties into Survivors needing to save civilians and thus won't attack them. I guess for gameplay reasons they need to be able to let baby move around still otherwise survivors could just not rescue civilians and rush the STM making Baby unable to do anything at all to stop it.

Why would the survivors hurt the civilians bro

Lorewise they don't know the civilian is baby

It is fr lol

The only problem in general with raiders is having team mates with good game sense something that seems to be lacking in my region unfortunately

Is it really true the auto evolve thing? Personally havent seen it

@@josecriollo6976 Its real, check his passive in the first form

@@Slidius Yeah sometimes the game is winnable but your teamates throw themself at the raider for no reason. Or dont want to drop dragon balls so you give them yours only for them to get insta killed and wasting them. Or they dont defend the STM cuz they want to ETM.

Gotta love this tribalism bullshit from people. You just want to kill the game don't you?

@@sgt.zaitsev287tribalism is how we evolved as a society, maybe think about the advantages of it instead of just looking at the downsides and assuming that’s all there is.

@@sgt.zaitsev287 The devs are doing a good job of killing it, regardless of what I want. They've been doing nothing but buffing raiders for an entire year, and yet raider mains are too smooth brained to win, so they gave them the ultimate handholding

@@devranyilmaz9806 i’m a little confused on how tribalism is beneficial? Can you list the benefits?

@@devranyilmaz9806tribalism is part of our history, but it’s detrimental to hold onto it to such an extent, specially now in a modern era

Get gud boi

@@ZinCross Already am bozo

No, he can be level 1 when STM spawns lol. I have a video proof of it too. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/pb57ltafl7zSlmw.htmlsi=GrKlDVObwQQXxpp3

After 3 mins 30 seconds at empty evo and 3 50 at almost full, he will auto evolve.

Androids, cell max, omega shenron, beerus, cooler, turles, janemba, slug, garlic jr. Hell bring fricking miira, towa and Fu

@@josecriollo6976 Problem with half of those is that the lvl 1 and 2s of most of them are gonna be just random goons (Cooler's goons, then regular Cooler, then Final Form. Same with Turles, Slug and Garlick .Jr). I can see androids happening but i cannot see a lvl 4 that is cool enough to merit a character (maybe like Gero and 19 as lvl 1, 17 at lvl 2, 18 at lvl 3 and 16 lvl 4. Unless you're saying something like Androids 13, 14 and 14, i can see that happening). Janemba doesn't have enough transfirmations to merit a full character, unles you make him start at lvl 3 somehow and lvl 4 is really hard to get (would require a whole new set of mechanics). I can see DBZ Broly happening aswell but ppl would complain about having 2 Brolies. Omega Shenron and Cell Max i can see happening tho

@@santir2396 they made baby a civ and vegeta a saibaiman surely they'll be fine with random goons, plus with androids I mean 17 & 18 its very easy lvl 1 19, lvl 2 gero, lvl 3 either 17 or 18 alone, lvl 4 both 17 & 18 (goku black and zamasu kind of thing) With cooler it could be lvl 1 one of cooler's soldiers, lvl 2 cooler, lvl 3 final cooler, lvl 4 metal cooler Both slug and garlick jr have a lot of "goons" so they would probably work like the ginyu force having slug and full power garlick as lvl 4s, and by that regard you can easily picture a bojack gang raider and a demon king piccolo raider With turles you are right that is kinda hard to see him in the raider progression Janemba could work like broly starting at a higher lvl but they could also just make lvl 1 ogres, lvl 2 resurrected villains, lvl 3 fat janemba and lvl 4 janemba Now we know that they dont necesarilly have to follow the lvl 1 to 4 scheme, dont really need to pass every transformation and can also have dual raiders so the possibilities are unparalel

@@santir2396 Could always dig out SUPER ANDROID truckerman for an extra level if you needed