Howdy hey, this vid is a bit different than normal but I really wanted to make it - so lmk if you wanna see more hipyo rambles. Edit: this vid was made before the google summit and further AI integrations into search (I'll talk about those later)

Google dropped its company motto "Don't be evil" in 2015. So there is that.

Ai articles suck so fucking bad.

It has gotten so bad that I have to use Google, Reddit, and KZfaq to cross reference each other to make sure that the information is moderately accurate.

The biggest issue I have had with Google lately is more KZfaq. Why is the KZfaq search so bad now? It gives me like 10 videos on the subject I searched and then it's just my recommendations tab. Like huh?

I'm a veterinarian and I regularly have issues with people coming in and quoting actual MISinformation they found online. I work in ER, so your dive into cat-safe plants is a regular issue we have. It's become a serious medical problem. Google searches will tell people to give medications to their pets that are fatal, or cause liver or kidney failure, seizures, etc. I have no idea how to fix this, but it's nearing epidemic levels.

The search: "How to fix loose connection in headphone jack" The article: "A headphone jack is an adapter for a TRS cable..." _scrolls_ "...TRS cables are a common method to transmit data, especially audio..." _scrolls_ *website subscription needed* _disables javascript and reloads_ "...Sometimes, 2.5mm TRS cables can have loose connections with their adapter..." _scrolls_ "...might need to replace the cable..." _scrolls_ "...can get professional help or replace the device entirely..." *what?* _scrolls_ "...A good audio cable to use is [affiliate promotion]" _closes laptop_

It's not "dash" in this case, it's "minus". But also pretty much none of the operator tricks work in Google anymore because they are more concerned with guessing what you really want and what is the most profitable to show you than actually giving you what you said you wanted.

Is it finally time to stop telling people to "just google it" when they ask a question.

Amazon is ATROCIOUS nowadays. It's so entirely overrun by Chinese junk that it's almost pointless searching for some things on there anymore, and you certainly can't rely on the reviews.

Just FYI: "As of September 2021, Google no longer allows users to completely exclude search terms by using a minus sign (-) before them"

Now do how KZfaq is more than happy to show advertisments that would be FTC violations if they were on TV, or against their own TOS.

If this video gets taken down it's canon.

If you’re wondering why most companies drop their ethics that they seemingly upheld in the past is because there’s either almost no competition so they can get away with more, or they grew so big that the ethical concerns are seen as a money loss to them

The data scraping that AI does is so flawed considering anyone can say anything on the internet and that'll be factored into the research

Absolutely hate using google now. I used to be able to find answers to very specific questions quite easily, but now it's like the algorithm assumes that if you didn't search something super common, that you meant to, and will only show you search results for that very common problem. And the AI answer it creates at the top of your results is even worse - it just talks around your problem instead of providing a solution, or worse, gives you false, misleading, or incredibly biased information. But what other search platform are we meant to use??

The real way is finding some random guy with 40k views ranting about the hyper specific topic you are researching, and that guy only makes videos on that one topic. But Google is trying to ruin that too now. If you search, they literarily won't show what you searched for, instead filling it with rubbish that is NOT SEARCH!

Amazon's search is just as bad; you can say "7.5 gallon trashcan" and you'll get a 50-gallon behemoth in the search, within 10 results of the top. Which wasn't 7.5 (or even close to) gallon.

The other day I asked Siri if all chestnuts were poisonous and Siri said they were safe, I looked up the type of chestnut tree I was next to and it was poisonous.

Treat a search engine as you would treat directions from a stranger in a foreign country.

I once asked chatgpt what tape i could use to mod my keyboard and it told me to use a conductive one💀

My most common use for Google these days is looking up hvac manufacturer pro tech support phone numbers. Half the time the numbers they give me are to a competitor of the unit I'm working on and i have an awkward conversation with a call center worker being "why are you calling us?" Because your boss paid google to have your numbers come up when i search for your competitor.

What has also become nightmarishly difficult is finding WRITTEN reviews and how-to guides. A lot of time when I'm trying to look something up I don't want to open some 10+ minute algorithm bait youtube video to get a TLDR, and sometimes I want to be able to follow along with written instructions so I'm not pausing if I'm slow or waiting for the video host to reach a step. The other thing with written guides is they can be updated quickly and easily, and you can search keywords. Until video processing and language recognition/translation become good enough, you can't exactly search a youtube or tiktok video... and that's assuming the person making the video even knows what they're talking about in the first place or if they're just repeating information from another source they watched. So yeah, we're stuck in an era of misguided clickbait regurgitations of information, whether it's AI generated slop or not.

Google and KZfaq search have plummeted in quality, very noticeably over the last year or so. When I search for a topic, why am I getting served barely related shorts and multiple sections of unrelated videos “for me”?

I'm here for the Hipyo rants. Google has gone downhill and relatively quickly. I'm not bad at forcing it into better results, but I feel like I have to type up a short novel in order to get what I'm actually looking for these days.

Not only Google. Amazon has gone to absolute garbage too. Affiliate links and SEO are a hell of a corporate drug

this has been exactly my experience. im a wheelchair user, and it's gotten progressively more difficult to find accessibility info for places i want to go, lists of accessible attractions in places i want to travel to, non-government services for physically disabled people, stuff like that. i had to buy a new chair last year and it took several weeks of whittling down search results to find something that'd actually work for me, when even in 2019 i remember it being way easier. it's extremely frustrating when im just looking for like, clothes and tech products, but when it affects stuff i need to know for daily functioning, it's completely demoralising.

The reddit trick is what I use but often what google highlights as the answer is wrong, you just have to go into the thread itself and see what people are saying. It is true that, part of searching for info now is figuring out what sources are even giving you reliable info and not just either lying or trying to make money off of you. This is why it takes me days or weeks to decide on what to buy when it comes to stuff like PC peripherals. I have to find time to read like 10 reddit threads and watch 5 youtube videos and wade through user reviews to figure out what I want to spend my money on.

I was just tired of the ai notification option spamming me, switched to Firefox a while ago

I find that using reddit to search is useful because there usually may be a discussion within the results, so you get a better understanding of what you're looking for

Ed Zitron's reporting on this has been scary, stuff getting worse and worse just so some exec can buy a 3rd yacht.

I think this video is focused on products mainly, but what if you don't want to search for products? I for example want to see images of a 40 year old car with a spoiler, same make and model as mine. So I search for "(car model) spoiler", and the results are honestly awful. Image search only wants to show me products, but guess what there are no spoilers for sale for a 40 year old car. So google image search just gives me products for entirely different cars. Insanely useless.

"Best" is terrible. These are all best: The most eco friendly keyboard, The keyboard with the largest wireless range, The keyboard with the highest polling rate, The keyboard with the longest and most durable cable, The thinnest keyboard, The keyboard with the softest buttons, The keyboard that sounds best, The keyboard that is easiest to clean, The keyboard that will last the longest, The keyboard with the biggest keys, The keyboard with the most tactile feedback, The keyboard with the smoothest travel, The keyboard with the least travel, The keyboard with the most travel, The most rigid keyboard, The most flexible keyboard, The lightest keyboard, The keyboard that moves the least on your desk, The smallest keyboard, The keyboard with the most keys, blaaaaaaaaa blaaaa bla

It’s your channel man. If you need to rant, then rant! I like hearing your opinions even if I don’t agree. Plus this one was very much a PSA, so kudos for that!

Finding good product results on Google is a mess, but I'm not convinced it's entirely their fault. Corporations hire SEO companies to achieve maximum hits from Google search but in order to do that you have to sacrifice accuracy. Then there's the sites themselves. I go into Home Depot, find portable air conditioners and when I try to use THEIR filter to show only dual hose. The darn site STILL shows single hose results. So what does this mean? It's a whole cluster F out there.

Thank you! I thought I was the only one and it was age issues (turning 42 next month). But honestly, when you can buy priority in those search engines, something goes wrong. Because how they and AI work, that results in a boosting with results even in other sources who are trained with the bought search results. That really shifts the results over time.

I was thinking the same thing the other day after finding out that AI summaries are now a mandatory part of search. Totally OK with the topic choice, now I know I am not the only one that thinks search is getting worse.

Used to be able to find everything easy on google back in late 2000's and early 2010's. Since then, search has definitely declined :/

Ive always been a little bit of a wikipedia addict, that being said ive noticed more and more that ive started open wikipedia first before google for some queries. Its going to give me answers for many topics faster, easier, and more reliably for somethings, especially when its a search for something thats probably gonna have the wiki page be the first thing available anyways

Its hard as hell to find anything relating to symbolism or writing. Like all of the results is just AI spammed 'witchtok' articles with no actual bearing on items and their most common symbolism uses.

The other problem with review sites is that most just write up articles from spec sheets and never actually get hands on. I've also seen reports of some of the bigger sites being paid-for articles so the more the manufacturer pays the higher up they rank. :(

The problem is that these algorithms use "authority" sites to provide information for certain category. For mechanical keyboards they use same sites as for any other PC peripheral - which is really stupid thing to do, when "mechanical keyboards" became separate topic from consumer mechanical keyboards long time ago.

- obliterates Alphabet in some teeny/childish influencer video-essay; - post it on his channel inside Google's own (BOUGHT) platform; - refuses to elaborate; - leaves.

There's a fundamental assumption that people make: That the search engine knows better than you what is real and what is not. Google isn't any better at it than you are.

I did a History degree a few years ago and Google was an effing nightmare to find things. When I googled things in High school for the same subject, it was great.

I asked google maps for good shawarma and it suggested mostly sushi and Mexican restaurants

"Hipyo Rants" is great. I found you through your AirUp video, and while I appreciate your other vids the topic of keyboards just doesn't hold my attention for long. Incorporating your style into other topics like this is awesome.

It is HILARIOUS how a KZfaq page I follow for something completely unrelated is also talking about this - I've been a professional Search Engine Optimization and online marketer and have been following the recent changes at Google with a lot of interest - they've really messed things up

Thank you for doing a video about this! I’m researching black/goth cocktails to make since I want to make a cocktail based off my favorite Undertale character for my next video. The search results showed me recipes for drinks that don’t exist, showed me AI pictures of cocktails with no recipes and even after going out of my way to say “I want these cocktails without activated charcoal” because I take birth control, I got NOTHING BUT cocktails with activated charcoal in them. I just switched to Brave today and it’s already been an easier experience and considering the rumors of romance artists being blocked from their Google accounts for having more… passionate love scenes in their novels that they stored on Google Drive…. I don’t think I’m going back.

Google goes by keywords. It does not take all of the keywords into account together. That's why you get millions of responses that have absolutely nothing to do with what you asked. I literally asked Google for things and gotten the exact opposite answer. It's mind-boggling! Oh and their advanced search does nothing anymore!

I’m in NYC for the week end and finding stores selling specific clothing items is a real chore. Like the stores exist, but you have to wrestle Google for it to give up the info and not your generic H&Ms.

Point of contention. Dampened means to be made wet, and you do that with a dampener. Whereas you're using a damper to make your keyboard damped. SuperFastMatt pointed it out in one of his videos, and I can't not forward it. Plus, it boosts engagement.

really hate that you can't click on the map after searching a place anymore. instead it just opens a slightly bigger map but not the actual google maps site. it used to open it up in google maps idk why they got rid of it

Here's the thing, major websites got really good at SEO on Google. It's been figured out for years how to game Google's indexing. And it's now getting worse that companies can quickly generate hyperoptimized SEO-Clickbait with AI.

I’ve recently tried finding real reviews of mattresses online. They don’t exist.

You hear about your Waveform shout-out?

Don't use the word "best" when searching, because "best" is subjective, and what is best for you might not be best for someone else. I would instead search for the phrase "Custom mechanical keyboard", and then if i knew nothing, i'd make sure to read through at least a half dozen of the top results. It's not just keyboards. Anything i wanna find, don't use "best" in the search. It's like a cursed search term that always gives you crap results. Being good at searching google is definitely a skill, a lot of people are bad at it. You have to know what words to avoid and what words to use to get the results you want.

Compared to the youtube search the google search still works great. The youtube search is completely messed up nowadays. If you want to find videos on a certain product and there is a similar, more popular product, sometimes 90%+ of results are videos on the other more popular product. Even if you type in the exact name. With monitors it's really bad because a single different letter in the name usually means that it uses a completely different pannel. And as you scroll down more and more it just repeats the videos it has already shown earlier in the search instead of showing the less popular videos that you were actually looking for.

Good video. It's depressing to think about how much sales has driven the internet towards being an unusable hellscape and will probably continue to do so unless something changes... Scary about your cat. Glad you caught that!

My girlfriend googled the name of a movie we wanted to watch just to know where it was streamed, and Google gave her an AI-generated summary of the plot, basically spoiling the whole movie

It's scary at a minimum and dangerous at worst to have one monopoly in Google to be the gateway to everything. How did we get here? Google pays off Apple BILLIONS to be a good boy and just take the money and not ask questions and just make them default. It's impossible for anyone, even a huge tech company with deep pockets like Microsoft to make a dent.We need government to step in. This is crazy. We desperatley need competition in search.

I can’t ever find anything on google 🙄 I just look for KZfaq reviews now 😂 I like the new video style too.

The biggest shit is that google cache is gone

GJ expanding your topic domain. You put out something different but used keebs as kind of an anchor. I think you could do a lot of stuff on user experience with devices - keyboards or other things related to user experience.

Rtings isn't an affiliate farm. And they are actually hella good for TV and monitor reviews. But yeah, as a grizzled ancient tech nerd from Gen X... the internet as a whole has gone to shit. Google is a dumpster fire, and some of that is definitely due to things they have done intentionally, but they only get partial credit.

You're too young to have seen the old google. It is unusable compared to what it used to be.

i can't help but wonder if the issue with google claiming that one restaurant has a certain food while the actual menu doesn't include the item is a problem with the algorithm compiling information from outdated menus. idk if that's a thing in those restaurant compilation websites elsewhere in the world, but here we have a website called OpenRice where users can basically take a photo of a restaurant's menu and then upload it onto the restaurant's page. which means if it's a niche restaurant (or restaurants where the main clienette aren't tech-savvy), it's easy for the website to hold outdated information even when the menu hasn't been the same for years. i imagine that special offers, limited edition foods/drinks, and collaborations will also corrupt the data compilation. and ik this is a video about google and idk if it's an issue on there, but i imagine that the chain restaurants can mess up the data, especially when different stores have different events/specialties going on at the same time. it's especially evident on amazon listings with variations of the same item e.g. different colours of the same keyboard. for example, let's say the paint only chips on the white version, but since the white/black/blue/purple/red versions are all under the same listing, 'paint chipping' would be listed as a problem with the product if enough people who bought the white version talked about it - even though the problem is not present in the other models - because the algorithm treats them as 'the same product'. and i imagine that restaurants can be the same because the food quality and availability can drastically vary depending on which store you're going to.

So there's a big problem I have noticed, I call it search poisoning. Marketplaces offer the ability for small companies to sell their products (Newegg, Amazon, Walmart...) but then they label their products incorrectly. This allows them to show up on search results they don't belong in. It makes doing product comparison difficult. So a lot of the blame is with the marketplaces for not cracking down on this. It means that there are no fines for what I would call false advertising. There's a second problem, and that is fake products. I'm not just saying like a "Guchi" purse or "Niky" shoes that are knockoffs and still work, but stuff like SD cards and USB drives where it presents a fake size and doesn't work. This makes price comparisons difficult because you have no way of knowing if you are buying the best price or a scam. There seems to be little consequences for these flash in the pan stores.

Glad I found you before Google's enpoopification.

To be honest, I don't really see this as a fault of Google, but more the internet as a whole. Especially since the insurgence of LLMs, the internet has had an extreme overflow of low quality content (AI-generated). And I think it's pretty hard for Google to sort that stuff out of searches, because they still use the same SEO techniques...

Amazon and walmart will show a widget, for $2.00, and then when you go to sort the results from prices low to high, the first result (after sponsered garbage, of course) is widgets for $5.00 and the price only ever goes up as you go down the list. (and/or a bunch of things that aren't widgets)

search being commercialized is possibly the worst thing that happened to the internet. the other day i was trying to look up how to program midi signals and some more technical stuff for my DIY synth, none of the first two pages told me anything about what i was looking for, it was all just "here buy this midi cable and plug it into this spot on your midi controller.

i don't know about google, i use duckduck since a decade

Adblockers help tremendously, and common sense does aswell.

I don't know if I'm just searching for them wrong, but if I ever want to search for a full size, good key, *With* the numpad, all I get is results for keychron or random unknown brands on amazon which I have little faith. As someone who wants and needs(for work) a full size keyboard, either google shows me little to know options, or I really am on an island far from the mainland. It really sucks because I really want to buy a full size, custom, premade keyboard, yet my options are so limited and I have no idea what to do or where to go

Ive been looking for a new office chair that can recline, but im already skeptical when google searching stuff i want to buy. I gave up after an hour of searching saying to myself ill do it another day. Its frustrating.

I've been saying for a long time now that Google search has become useless, I've used it a lot in my life but get sick of the damn useless results that it spits out all the time now.

I don't need examples for AI being no suitable replacement for a real working search! Direct access to a huge, unfiltered index is the only way to be able to find and do the right thing yourself. Ony seeing some other one's interpretaton and paternalism instead of being able to see all data myself is not even remotely acceptable, be it an AI or a natural person!

Dude, finding you was fate. I have been dealing with this exact same thing all day, and thankfully discovered your channel, and here you are describing what happened before i discovered you

It's crazy how I can no longer find stuff that I researched recently and I'm only trying to confirm or expand on, and it's nowhere to be found. Lucky sometimes I have some quotes in my notes, so I google for a phrase in quotation marks in order to find the phrase verbatim, and only THEN the actual source appears in searches again. It's infuriating.

My biggest struggle these times has been finding drawings and images from legit sources and, well, if I don't go to the bottom/mid bottom of reddit running pages to find some small yet dedicated artists that still do their paintings in the normal fashioned way (paper, canva, oil based ink, acrilycs, pencils, and even some purely digital ones that still full of technic), I simply got flooded with Ai generated images, or Ai based edition, or some of this stuff that, besides being useful for some people in specific situations, doesn't help anything at all when you are trying to improve your own art perspective and technic

I regularly get requests from friends to search things for them if a topic has even a hint of complexity, there's so many dumb tricks and things you have to look out for when searching around that you genuinely do need to figure out a way to optimize your searches yourself. The same things that took me merely 5~ish or so minutes to look up 5-10 years ago now can take up to literal hours.

"Just show me the first post that wasn't sponsored." Google: "Oh, oh, oh you're doing a bit of scrolling"

This video greatly summarizes my thought when trying to buy a new bicycle. I've never bought a proper bicycle myself for me or anyone else and have no idea what to really look for in a bike. I've heard that Shimano is a good brand to look for in a bike parts but not anything else. Tried to Google and use other search providers and did not find any good options for me. I tried to learn about what to look for before going to physical shop and be potentially scammed. I found some pointers form a old local bike forum but that did not help me much. Visited multiple stores to see what's available but ultimately went with a bike that was in a professional bike shop with a enthusiastic bike lover sales person and gave me couple of options that I could choose from.

Nice video. Year, lately i had more luck going to forums and search there directly for people that had similiar questions, than getting the answer directly on google.

I tried looking up specialty pharmacies close to me, since I was having trouble getting my specialty medication on time with the one I had. Literally NONE of the pharmacies they recommended were specialty pharmacies. There were 5 CVS's, one Walgreens, two Wal-Marts, and the only specialty pharmacy they recommended was the one I was having problems with. When I tried looking up for my entire state, just to see if it might've been that there wasn't any other specialty pharmacies near me, the same thing happened. They just showed me every pharmacy, specialty or not, in the state.

I ran into the dual-hose portable AC thing myself, but here in the netherlands. At some point i thought i actually found one, but it was another single hose unit when it actually arrived. I dont think they are actually on sale here at all. I got a nice single-hose AC now.

All of this. Needing to double checking search results is not new... but I'd argue incorrect information has never be presented so confidently

I was trying to find a stand mixer a few weeks ago and google was a right pain. I was like, trying to be specific with my search terms, and then it was just bringing back general stand mixers that weren't even part of my search terms. KZfaq is awful now too. I was trying to find a specific video and it gave me like, 5 related videos and then a bunch of unrelated videos I'd already seen before, and then a few more related videos.

I had an odd niche question, wanted specifics, and i went to bing as a last resort. As soon as i saw the AI logo, i turned away; aint no way in hell i'm going to read language model hallucinations

I found you when I was considering building a mechanical keyboard for a new computer I got. You helped me to understand that I don’t type! I then went and bought the keyboard that should go with the computer. No matter what we use, we’re gonna have to do the research! Your content rocks by the way, that’s why I still watch you!

Good rant, validates my own frustration. It took me about 30 minutes of searching to find a solution to a Reaper problem I encountered. Even using specific language, I could not find anything directly relating to my issue. I ended up just trying stuff with plugins until what I wanted to happen happened. Information, information, everywhere, Nor any drop to drink.

Great video, I was thinking that it is 'my issue' that I could not find reliable info when trying to purchase new tech for my house . Everything seems to be just advertising and nor real product evaluation. Same goes for trying to buy furniture - very flowery descriptions, AI regurgitating promotional materials written by very young people who never bought furniture so you cannot search for a dining table by size...

I've been stuck and frustrated and burned out with the keyboard thing and you're a great source of info. I regularly have to go on these long quests, these long consumer reports quests. Either for myself or family members that I don't want to see get screwed, again, by Amazon or whatever else. It's never-ending and it has only gotten worse.

I thought i'm just getting older because my googling skill become worse

I once saw a post on imgur that showed you how to use google to properly search for things, and my first reaction was "Wow, I basically have to know programming to use a search engine! totally understandable."

Speaking of searches, my current keyboard is starting to show signs of some issues... do you have any recommendations for quiet keyboards with responsive inputs? I'm not a huge fan of clicky (or even thocky) keyboards, to be honest. Too much noise, especially if I'm coding while family is asleep, or if I'm in a voice chat with friends or coworkers.

I do very much enjoy Hipyo rants. Also yes it feels like either google tries to autocomplete my search to something random I had open last week or for some reason can't seem to find the specific thing I searched for unless I search for it in a more vague way. For example I was just looking for parts for my herman miller aeron chair. When I had that in there I couldn't find it. However when I searched herman miller parts I was able to find what I was looking for for my exact chair. So something seems to be up with SEO or key words.

Ironically, because I got signed out automatically while watching this video, i press the back button and it brings me back to this page and I get "Google sucks right now". Perfect.

Loving these different style of videos, keep it up man