It’s NOT Playable - How The LEGO Ideas Grand Piano Actually Works

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BricksAhoy

BricksAhoy

4 жыл бұрын

The new LEGO Ideas set Grand Piano (21323) is here! Only one problem... it's not playable, and the official marketing has been misleading people. In my first video, which hopefully at least one person will see, I dive into the mechanics of how it works, and go over what it can and can't do. Does the app gimmick take away from the overall value of the set as a whole?
== Update! ==
One user was able to make the piano playable by mixing it with two Nintendo Switch Joycons! Check out the demo video here:
• Lego 21323 Grand Piano...
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@BricksAhoy
@BricksAhoy 4 жыл бұрын
Corrections: The more I look at the images, the more I think the IR sensor may be blocked by default, and triggering keys actually un-obscures. But the function is still the same, whether I got the states wrong. What would a KZfaq video be without mistakes? 😉
@onidub
@onidub 4 жыл бұрын
Ashnflash told his viewers told him to come here so i will support u sir
@miguelangelvives968
@miguelangelvives968 4 жыл бұрын
A good plataform?
@just_is
@just_is 4 жыл бұрын
:)
@andrelanger8396
@andrelanger8396 4 жыл бұрын
You are going to make more videos? It would be really sad / upsetting if this stays the only video of your channel. Since I really enjoyed watching it.
@stilldomi
@stilldomi 4 жыл бұрын
Television
@Swampert00260
@Swampert00260 4 жыл бұрын
I didn't even know lego did 18+ sets. I feel like anyone 14+ should be able to build just about any lego set
@jacksonlarson6099
@jacksonlarson6099 4 жыл бұрын
+18 is really just there to emphasize that these are targeted at adult collectors moreso than children looking for toys to play with. Of course, that doesn't stop anyone from buying it, nor is it meant to.
@johnfowler9424
@johnfowler9424 4 жыл бұрын
When I was younger I told a girl l liked I build model I shouldn’t be building lol it was so cringey
@ENCHANTMEN_
@ENCHANTMEN_ 4 жыл бұрын
It's 18+ due to the potential of a "twelve inch pianist" joke
@caleborg5688
@caleborg5688 3 жыл бұрын
18+ label is a scary concept for a lego toy
@nicolame5883
@nicolame5883 3 жыл бұрын
At 11 years, I bould a lot of +16 years
@Ashnflash
@Ashnflash 4 жыл бұрын
I'm so stunned and confused. Incredible video, incredible transitions and diagrams talking about the science. If this is true - then I will be beyond disappointed and will do a video on this. There hasn't been a review yet, but we'll see this weekend I guess. Incredible job. When I see more, I will spread this around. You earned a sub. Incredible quality man, can't wait to see more!
@BricksAhoy
@BricksAhoy 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks man! You're literally my first sub 😍
@junebugforever
@junebugforever 4 жыл бұрын
Welp, looks like you’ll be doing a video on this (check Promobricks’ channel where they have a video demonstrating how the “play” function works)
@solaire67
@solaire67 4 жыл бұрын
Wait a few days. You'll have over 200 subs
@vir007--3
@vir007--3 4 жыл бұрын
Like if your here while you can still comment
@UlimitedCookie1
@UlimitedCookie1 4 жыл бұрын
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@moonriya
@moonriya 4 жыл бұрын
To be honest, if I wanted a toy piano that is actually playable and self-plays the *right* keys I could buy the SEGA mini grand piano for about the same price. The appeal with LEGO is that you can build it yourself, so it depends on what people are really after - are you interested in the mechanics or do you want the music? I guess there's no perfect world. :) Great video debut by the way!!
@tedioustotoro4885
@tedioustotoro4885 4 жыл бұрын
I had known about the original project so I knew what to expect and I’m going to get this set because it’s beautiful
@markymark9353
@markymark9353 4 жыл бұрын
Tedious Totoro I’ve been following this since the beginning too and I’m really enjoying the build of it since I got it. I hope you get yours soon
@makutamiserix5612
@makutamiserix5612 4 жыл бұрын
This makes me skeptical about the upcoming typewriter set. Not just because it beat the Bionicle Ideas project, but now it's guaranteed not to work.
@gugclo
@gugclo 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this. Came over from Ashnflash and have subbed. This video needs to be watched by everyone considering this set.
@hitthebricks5502
@hitthebricks5502 4 жыл бұрын
Agreed, really great video!
@DalekBricks
@DalekBricks 4 жыл бұрын
this is a certified BRUH moment
@toast_0h
@toast_0h 4 жыл бұрын
*E P I C B R U H M O M M E N T*
@TheMCCraftingTable
@TheMCCraftingTable 4 жыл бұрын
LEGO-Certified bruh moment
@skimpy2706
@skimpy2706 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheMCCraftingTable **BRUHS IN LEGO**
@benjaminmichaud8511
@benjaminmichaud8511 4 жыл бұрын
I definitely wish they'd sold this without the powered up functions. I feel like an 18+ set doesn't need all of these gimmicks in order to sell. I want to get this for a fun building experience and display piece. I also know from the Creator Wind Turbine that Lego motors are way too whiny to want to have running while trying to listen to music from a phone speaker.
@MFN
@MFN 4 жыл бұрын
As A News Creator of Over a Qaurter Million subs and 2 verified channels, I am blown away that this is your first video. Just as you are confused on how they overlooked this, I am just as confused on how you made such an incredibly professional video that litterally is made for KZfaq, From Timing, Thumbnail, Title, transitions, Narration.you are going to surpass everyone in your niche if you do more like this. My one puece of advice wpuld be to be consistant and keep pushing them out. It will soon outshine whatever career you are currently working and this WILL be your full time "Job" cant wait to see you grow. I may be in the News/Conspiracy Niche, but I am AFOL at heart. I may have to do a conspiracy video about how you did this with zero experience
@lokologico
@lokologico 4 жыл бұрын
and like with most 18+ models, they just end up in display, so really who cares what it does..... :)
@Deuce_and_a_half
@Deuce_and_a_half 4 жыл бұрын
Probably the people who were mislead into buying it would care
@thebookhero5727
@thebookhero5727 4 жыл бұрын
I mean if I bought this for $350 I would care
@KiemPlant
@KiemPlant 4 жыл бұрын
I bought the Death Star back when I was 12 and basically never played with it. For me it was all about the building.
@jarlfenrir
@jarlfenrir 4 жыл бұрын
I see a new trend on youtube people playing songs with lego piano... so one might go and buy it before someone else has the same idea... and after assembly you are so disappointed :/
@davidsosa507
@davidsosa507 3 жыл бұрын
It costs $350. At what point are you better buying a Statue for 20 bucks at the supermarket, than a model... that's basically a statue if you never intend on using it, for 350?
@HR-in1dm
@HR-in1dm 4 жыл бұрын
Came from Ashnflash. Your channel quality is incredible for the size of your channel. I subbed bc I can see this channel growing massive. Good luck on your journey bro
@mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm316
@mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm316 4 жыл бұрын
I came from ashnflash but I didn’t sub because of him I subbed because I loved the video and it’s quality, keep up the great work:)
@NatTheeGnat
@NatTheeGnat 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe they could have put something similar to what they use in Lego Mario, with the scanners. That way it would have been able to sense each individual key
@landlighterfirestar5550
@landlighterfirestar5550 3 жыл бұрын
Then it would have been $500 or more with basically the same piece count, and it wouldn’t feel like LEGO anymore
@Jahxr
@Jahxr 4 жыл бұрын
For a small channel your videos are amazing. They are structured well and edited fantastically
@jr.sciencebros.8411
@jr.sciencebros.8411 4 жыл бұрын
It's slightly disappointing and I do feel their marketing was misleading. However I still bought it, am about halfway through, and excited to use it with the app. The fact that it moves on its own is really cool.
@BricksAhoy
@BricksAhoy 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah exactly! It's a fantastic set for what it is and I know a lot of people are going to be really happy with it. It's nearly studless exterior was one of the things that stood out to me. As long as people understand what they're getting, this set is beautiful
@nicholaswheeler3985
@nicholaswheeler3985 4 жыл бұрын
For the price of it, I never believed this would actually play sound like a real piano. It’s just not possible to code 25 individual notes from one sensor in this way. You’d need 25 of them - one for each note mechanism. Same for the playback - 25 actuators to move each mechanism independently. Whoever thought they’d get 25 sensors and 25 actuators plus all the bricks to build the mechanism and case for the money they’re asking...? The Bluetooth connection to add interactive sound is a fun afterthought, and it helps bring the piano to life in some way, however, I wouldn’t imagine it appealing to many over 18 year olds, so this is where I find the target age audience confusing for this set. I agree they could have easily made the power function an added option for the younger ones. I think it’s a great set, and I will get it - just because aesthetically and technically its looks fantastic! But I do agree with the thoughts in this video - the marketing will be misleading for some. It’s promised functionally has been rather over egged!
@tedioustotoro4885
@tedioustotoro4885 4 жыл бұрын
The thing is, the reason it ‘18+’ is because of the complexity of some of the builds such as the key mechanism
@Yurio
@Yurio 4 жыл бұрын
still pretty misleading, i think for $300 its a fair price without the sound anyway, but it took me like 2 or 3 reviews beforrer I realized it doesnt actually make sound
@iAmDru12
@iAmDru12 4 жыл бұрын
You could make a playable piano with one sensor,,, it'd just be monophonic. Not great, but still playable technically
@nicholaswheeler3985
@nicholaswheeler3985 4 жыл бұрын
Droo Stanlee How? How would it determine which note you were pressing? How do you make each key unique using one sensor so you can play a scale of notes? It would only play one note, which is effectively what it’s doing now - accept, the software connected via the Bluetooth just sounds the next note in the tune you’ve chosen each time it detects a pulse from the sensor, which is triggered by you pressing any one of the 25 keys.
@FTF96
@FTF96 3 жыл бұрын
MIDI is pennies, people are making stuff with an Arduino mini themselves. It could have been done.
@tylersmith8457
@tylersmith8457 3 жыл бұрын
Really glad I found this video. I was thinking of asking for it for Christmas (I completed a ton of architecture kits very quickly so I wanted some challenge) but the other video I watched advertised it as being able to play music and working just like a real grand piano. Obviously, I figured it wasn't that good, but I thought it would at least play the music. You just saved my grandparents from spending 350 bucks, so thanks. Great editing, by the way.
@ethan_bronzi
@ethan_bronzi 4 жыл бұрын
This is an amazingly high quality first video filled with useful information, I’m glad Ashnflash talked about you in his video. I can’t wait to see what video you make next.
@kalolawahine9182
@kalolawahine9182 4 жыл бұрын
Great Video ‼️ Honestly, I’m getting this set for 1-It’s ridiculous beauty 2-It’s technicalities 3-The sheer joy of LEGO I never actually thought it would have any sound worth hearing. That’s what REAL pianos are for!😉
@2v_5r84
@2v_5r84 2 жыл бұрын
My thoughts exactly
@TomPauls007
@TomPauls007 3 жыл бұрын
Actually, it isn’t too hard or $$ to make this a playing (musical) 88. Attach small magnets to the key ends. Have a row of micro switches that close when the magnet gets close. A simple ribbon cable from the switches to the battery box/processor. It could play each note via a small speaker. Designs could have the blue tooth transmit the pressed note to the phone which an app could play a corresponding accompanying cord. Easy. Sell WAY more kits and not get flack.
@DeroyJersson6575
@DeroyJersson6575 4 жыл бұрын
18+ doesn't in any way mean "it's not for kids", it simple means "we know you are an adult so prepare to spend some extra adult money for the same plastic". Not all adult sets are overpriced, granted, particularly this one . But the 18+ is a pure marketing technique and not a true age restriction or even suggestion. By the way, I'd be interested in hearing more from you in the future.
@grose24
@grose24 4 жыл бұрын
I can't explain how glad i am to have found this channel. Very high quality bro, keep up the awesome work!
@VAULT-TEC_INC.
@VAULT-TEC_INC. 4 жыл бұрын
I’m shocked that the marketing department stretched the truth.
@fantasybricks5194
@fantasybricks5194 4 жыл бұрын
This is a great explanation and some great editing. Great video man, keep up the great work.
@johnappleseed368
@johnappleseed368 4 жыл бұрын
i watched this video and the whole time i thought you were some big youtuber by the mic quality and quality of the video in general and then saw the subscribers, I got surprise. Good job
@KBLegoProductions
@KBLegoProductions 4 жыл бұрын
I knew this channel before you were famous! Years from now people will be looking at your first video and this is it! I subbed and congrats on 1000 subscribers!
@darkurio
@darkurio 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for making this video. These are the same suspicions I have about the piano as well, and what I find most disappointing is although Lego isn't lying, they are being very misleading and stretching the truth in their PR for this set. I would have rather they excluded the motor etc and cut the price like you mentioned as this is a gimmick that will probably be interesting for 5 minutes and a a couple minutes more for people who come into your home and are curious and that's it. But it's clear their goal is a) $$$ and b) building hype / promoting Lego, so everything they've done makes sense. They know that as long as they can build up the hype to critical levels, the set will sell out regardless before momentum diminishes and reviews start showing the negatives about the set.
@danparks8894
@danparks8894 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome first video. Fantastic production values too. Thanks for sharing
@SgtKaito
@SgtKaito 4 жыл бұрын
I'm sad, I wanted to learn how to play piano on it thinking it was completely functional. At least my bank account is happy (although not really since I bought the NES).
@biga7682
@biga7682 4 жыл бұрын
Wow, I thought it was playable. Great video, and I love the quality! You earned a subscriber1
@brickjam69
@brickjam69 4 жыл бұрын
Yikes, this doesn’t seem worth the money much anymore.
@shlimon7667
@shlimon7667 4 жыл бұрын
I mean it’s still cool with all the play features
@Bengraziano
@Bengraziano 4 жыл бұрын
JK Brickworks needs to figure out how to make the keys actually play their respective notes. I wonder if Mindstorms would be capable of making that happen
@blablaennogwat
@blablaennogwat 4 жыл бұрын
With the new techniques in the Mario sets perhaps something is possible! You'll need one of those barcodes per key and a sensor that could read them all when pressed...
@nikkirennardo5100
@nikkirennardo5100 4 жыл бұрын
Probably something with the proximity sensor, but then you’d only be able to play one note at a time
@rkjuan6436
@rkjuan6436 4 жыл бұрын
This video is so amazing, one of the best LEGO videos I´ve ever seen, this explains evrything so clear and it makes so much sense, keep up the good work.
@sebastianbaker3532
@sebastianbaker3532 4 жыл бұрын
Firstly awesome video! I thought it was well structured and researched, keep em coming :)) Tbh, I wasn’t expecting the piano to actually be able to play music, I mostly see it as a gorgeous display piece. However, I only watched the video and skimmed the brickset article, so that will have impacted my judgement, and from what you’ve presented the marketing is somewhat misleading. I still really want to pick it up though, but there are so many good sets that have been released/are retiring this year it’s a tough choice ahhhh
@fredericduran5186
@fredericduran5186 4 жыл бұрын
Your first vid? Nice! Some major potential spotted here! Hoping for more...
@noah.blackwood
@noah.blackwood 4 жыл бұрын
I still want this set super bad, but now I know the truth. Thanks so much for letting everyone know! I’ll probably still get it because I knew from the beginning that it wouldn’t be playable, mostly because of Donny Chen’s video but also because there just isn’t any effective way to get a brick built piano to play
@bradl8887
@bradl8887 4 жыл бұрын
Who on earth thought this set actually played music? It's Lego!! Come on, folks. Don't blame Lego for your own staggering incomprehension.
@ObzornieObzori
@ObzornieObzori 4 жыл бұрын
Is it really your first video? It's amazing! Cool editing, interesting story telling, i can't belive that it is actually your first video
@e443productions9
@e443productions9 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah... LEGO really went along with the false advertising in this one
@mikaxms
@mikaxms 4 жыл бұрын
I’m here because of Ashnflash. Good explanation man! I was suspicious since it only has one sensor and one motor.
@johnlemon7817
@johnlemon7817 4 жыл бұрын
Man this was an amazing first video, I don’t usually comment on videos but I just want to say keep uploading more videos and I hope you get all the subs you deserve
@kathalida
@kathalida 4 жыл бұрын
Great explanation. I agree that the marketing was misleading. I'm still excited to get the piano, as i was sure that it wasn't going to make sounds without the app. I ordered before midnight the night before Aug 1st, still backordered!
@ricoboogie2086
@ricoboogie2086 3 жыл бұрын
Wow. This is a perfect video. I am exactly the person you describe that was completely mislead by the product description and marketing papers. You are 100% correct with everything you say throughout this video, including the bit the way Nintendo implemented the idea and the reasons why Lego couldn't with this model. I hope this video gets watched by every single person interested in this product, and I look forward to whatever video you make next, because if it's even half as thorough as this was, it's gonna be an excellent watch!
@xtentasticx
@xtentasticx 4 жыл бұрын
Literally if you look up "Lego grand piano" it will pull up the Lego ideas page that says word for word "Build the first-ever playable LEGO® Grand Piano!"
@getoveryourself2212
@getoveryourself2212 3 жыл бұрын
I was going to get my sister this for Christmas.. now I realize I'd be better off getting her a digital piano at the SAME price that ACTUALLY plays real notes..
@Brickfilmer125
@Brickfilmer125 4 жыл бұрын
Incredible editing and super informative. Thank you for making this video!
@FreakoRico999
@FreakoRico999 4 жыл бұрын
Hold up... Your FIRST video..? Feels like you've been editing and making these kind of videos for yeeaarss. Good job!
@jacksonlarson6099
@jacksonlarson6099 4 жыл бұрын
I like all the comments saying "if you really thought a Lego piano would ever work you're just a big stupid smelly idiot" as if though that justifies the misleading marketing in any way.
@landlighterfirestar5550
@landlighterfirestar5550 3 жыл бұрын
If you really thought the LEGO piano would work then you obviously misunderstood what LEGO meant by playable. The keys can be hit. The hammers are lifted. The hammers hit sudo-strings. Tell me, what exactly about this piano is misleading? (If you say it doesn’t detect individual notes then feel free spending hundreds of dollars developing a new sensor and then using dozens of them in the piano to make it do that. Can you see why LEGO didn’t do that?)
@mooster4080
@mooster4080 4 жыл бұрын
This seems like a video from a huge channel keep up the great work
@Craimbow
@Craimbow 4 жыл бұрын
This is your first video? Well looks like your channel has been suited out pretty damn well already
@royboy84
@royboy84 4 жыл бұрын
I have (and love) this set, and while I see and mostly side with the issues with Lego's "playable" copy, there's another part of me that is thinking two things. 1. All lego sets are "playable" the definition is loose. The Millennium Falcon is playable but doesn't actually have a working hyperdrive. You're right that people are going to assume that "playable" in the context of a musical instrument = musical playability, don't disagree... just more about tempered expectations which brings me to 2... 2. This set was incredibly complex and huge. The elements don't exist that would enable unique key playback, let alone a tone generator, and I don't think there's enough in the pipeline to justify lego creating brand new pieces just for that functionality. I know this is a very engineering focused argument angle... but seriously, there'd need to be an IR sensor on every key, or they would need to find another way to figure that out, not to mention the tone generator. I think you present very fair commentary, but I'm a little disappointed in the reaction from the Lego community. I think focusing on the "playable" bit is far overshadowing the unique design of this amazing set. This set inspired me from the moment I saw it on Lego ideas, and I was blown away with how faithful of a recreation they were able to craft.
@vojtasjedyny
@vojtasjedyny 4 жыл бұрын
So true. Maybe LEGO put this 18+ on the box, because they thought adult people know that playable (in literal sense) toy is very hard to recreate.
@krispyskins2122
@krispyskins2122 4 жыл бұрын
I have to admit I actually was going to buy this thinking it could play ... and I was curious how Lego had achieved the ability to detect which keys were being pressed and translate to notes. Such a shame because I also thought it would be great for my younger kids to play and learn. Maybe get into learning for real. But 350 for a display piece is a lot. It remind me of the Lego Boost robot ... it was marketed very cleverly but the final product so disappointed. Lego and digital will I’m sure work. But we are probably still in the early days .... with consumers as the guinea pigs.
@FTF96
@FTF96 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah that ended up being a dealbreaker for me too
@RedDesertRoz
@RedDesertRoz 4 жыл бұрын
KZfaq recommended this video to me, no doubt as it knows I follow several other LEGO channels. Enjoyed the video and subscribed.
@bradleyejones
@bradleyejones 4 жыл бұрын
You can by a mini working keyboard from a dollar store and yet lego want over $300 for something that doesn't work, they could've used the barcode like tiles they used in Mario and Dimensions and made something like the Nintendo Labo keyboard
@saberpotatoboy4151
@saberpotatoboy4151 4 жыл бұрын
Great video! This helped me learn more about the functions.I still like the set though, I wasn’t really expecting it to to be playable, i mean it’s LEGO! Can wait to see more vids!
@wickettheewok7356
@wickettheewok7356 4 жыл бұрын
Im looking forward to this channel honestly underrated
@thomasharris1090
@thomasharris1090 3 жыл бұрын
What a great video! Can’t believe you’ve only got 2k subscribers but I’m sure it’ll be 100k in no time. Subscribed! I’m not even interested in legos, but your videos are just so fascinating. Reminds me of engineering channels!
@brickflyersmoothy8637
@brickflyersmoothy8637 4 жыл бұрын
Man, this was an amazing video and I learned a lot more about the grand piano thanks to you now! Little question: Are you also going to do MOC building or set reviews on your channel or are you going to focus more on lego news and explainations in the future? Anyways, amazing video and keep up the great work!
@chiefbuffalohump1598
@chiefbuffalohump1598 4 жыл бұрын
Great vid. I was considering buying this and I’m glad you covered this because I had thought it was fully playable. You got yourself a new sub
@ToaMeikhaal
@ToaMeikhaal 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for that insightful video! I already knew, of course, that it wasn't truly playable. However, per your brief snippet at the end with the Switch Labo, it's fun to imagine how it could be made functional!
@hitthebricks5502
@hitthebricks5502 4 жыл бұрын
Great video! Informative and well produced!
@dalevridge
@dalevridge 4 жыл бұрын
First video of such quality? Subbed without any hesitation ;D
@ConsumerOfCringe
@ConsumerOfCringe 4 жыл бұрын
I cant beleive nobody noticed the jar jar quote at the beginning, props to you BricksAhoy
@Stevo_1985
@Stevo_1985 4 жыл бұрын
Great video and argument, and you're absolutely right on Lego's write up of the set - it is misleading. But before hearing your argument, I honestly thought it would simply be a mechanical showpeice. Every Lego brick would sound the same when hit, I thought. Nintendo, like you said, would never create a piano that wasn't interactive - they're all about the final experience. Personally, I think my issue with the set is that it has only 25 keys for such a big kit. 88 keys and piano body that wasn't so bulky would have been awesome - and that I would buy. They could have even bundled a real size hammer mechanism on its own stand for educational purposes. So for me, it's too bulky, and 63 keys away from parting with my money. There are some great functions on this piano, but it could all have been built into a much more realistic display piece. So, the NES set, really awesome. But I'd feel a cheat to buy that too, since I grew up on the Atari 2600, and moved straight to the Super Nintendo. Kinda missed out on the 8-Bit generation.
@someoneelse8263
@someoneelse8263 2 жыл бұрын
I just finished it and ran to see your video just to be sure i didn't built it the wrong way around
@jensvanrooij8661
@jensvanrooij8661 4 жыл бұрын
This video definitely looks like a over 200k + KZfaqr. Keep up the good work!
@petercantilina6174
@petercantilina6174 4 жыл бұрын
this was so helpful!! this really cleared up my confusion. i play the piano and i am kind of mad that you cant actually play this one
@harkiratgolar1879
@harkiratgolar1879 4 жыл бұрын
What a fantastic, informative and straight to the point video. Thanks mate, appreciate it
@soapnova
@soapnova 4 жыл бұрын
All i can say is wow. this is excellent for ur first video! I browsed the lego website and also thought it was playable until i saw your video. im ur tenth sub now, remember me when you get big!
@RadicalCapitol
@RadicalCapitol 3 жыл бұрын
I still wish it functioned like the Nintendo LABO Piano. It really would only need a slightly more expensive IR camera, and IR Reflective Stickers that could either be applied at the factory, or by the builder.
@burpingboy
@burpingboy 3 жыл бұрын
I managed to make this piano really playable! [Lego 21323 Piano now playable with Nintendo Labo Toy-Con Garage](kzfaq.info/get/bejne/p5djadxjzs6slKs.html) This is a proof of concept for the Lego Grand Piano to work with the Nintendo Labo Toy-Con Garage with Joy-Con IR cameras and reflective stickers based on how the Nintendo Labo Piano works.
@brunonotthemars7856
@brunonotthemars7856 4 жыл бұрын
Cool video! I'm looking forward for the next! 😉
@nish221100
@nish221100 Жыл бұрын
I have this set and play the piano. It was given as a gift. I pretty much knew that it wasn't playable (you would need very small motors or switches on each key for that.) But had to read the fine print to find that. It is gorgeous and the fact that its motions are exactly like the real thing makes it meaningful for me.
@Dac_vak
@Dac_vak 4 жыл бұрын
Good video. Please keep making more!
@ThisIsTeeKay
@ThisIsTeeKay 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Dacvak!
@prime9908
@prime9908 4 жыл бұрын
wow I really cant think that a lego set which said that it is playable and the set is very expensive and have a lot of bricks can't play the real music that's kinda makes me sad
@JackVR
@JackVR 4 жыл бұрын
GREAT VIDEO! I love your channel!
@Evan-yx7gh
@Evan-yx7gh 4 жыл бұрын
Holy crap, I thought you were a really big lego youtuber, Great job, super High Quality
@_.go._
@_.go._ 3 жыл бұрын
I got confused with their “playable” until I see some speed build too. I don’t want the sensor or the app and I just want it as a decor if that means cutting down the price more
@richardbushey4134
@richardbushey4134 2 жыл бұрын
Forget the app, I just wish the motor had a simple on/off switch so you don't have to download a 200+MB app to make the keys animate. Other than that, it's genious.
@magmyran3450
@magmyran3450 4 жыл бұрын
Is this really your first video? This is too good to be your first video... Anyways this video is epic you definitely earned a new sub!
@sampoetzsch7953
@sampoetzsch7953 3 жыл бұрын
Ladies and gentlemen... The most counter-intuitive lego set of all time! Btw, fantastic video. Subbed over from mandr.
@mikaxms
@mikaxms 4 жыл бұрын
If LEGO uses a distance sensor they could perhaps determine which key is pressed, using only one sensor. Though, it would also only work with one key at a time.
@thomasstewart9752
@thomasstewart9752 4 жыл бұрын
if the element is an ir camera, it could work like the Nintendo labo piano.
@ThinkCleverAndSmart
@ThinkCleverAndSmart 4 жыл бұрын
I don't believe this sensor can see more than a yes or a no for obstruction. You would need one that can see actual measurements, like the ultrasonic sensor for the mindstorms line
@mikaxms
@mikaxms 4 жыл бұрын
@@ThinkCleverAndSmart Yeah, I know. I'm suggesting an alernative in which they could.
@ThinkCleverAndSmart
@ThinkCleverAndSmart 4 жыл бұрын
Yes. If they did, that would have been awesome
@maxthrust976
@maxthrust976 4 жыл бұрын
Here’s another alternative: colour coded dampers, and a music stand/phone rest that is positioned so your phone camera can see the dampers. Wouldn’t be as pretty inside, of course.
@Hippienolic2
@Hippienolic2 4 жыл бұрын
Great first video! Seems like you’ve been doing it for years
@ladyrhanequilingan8258
@ladyrhanequilingan8258 3 жыл бұрын
I'm 8 years old when I become a pianist. Back to the Lego set... When I first saw this Lego set on Google... Me: I must have this! It's the most glorious lego set EVER!
@vanessachapman8433
@vanessachapman8433 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent video.I have been trying to find out how the piano was supposed to play before I purchased.Wont be buying now, it's far too expensive for it to be only half a functional piano,and very misleading advertising.Such a shame.
@lukehendrickson6268
@lukehendrickson6268 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for making this video, I’ve been looking for something like this that actually explains how it works
@Notolderthanyou
@Notolderthanyou 4 жыл бұрын
You grew very very quickly good job 👏
@Ryan-wr8fx
@Ryan-wr8fx 3 жыл бұрын
Here is what Lego should have done, the Lego piano app should use the camera to detect what keys are being pressed by the movement of the string dampers. Then the phone should produce the sound of the string being pressed. I realize more than one note might be connected to a single damper, but even limiting the piano to C major would be a better representation of what they were advertising.
@nutellaontoast4281
@nutellaontoast4281 4 жыл бұрын
Phenomenal video, was sent over by ashnflash and couldn't make a better video myself!
@cammz05
@cammz05 4 жыл бұрын
I love this video! Can’t wait to see more!
@fendergan
@fendergan 4 жыл бұрын
I am one of those that bought it for educational reasons for my child and thought it was an actual playable piano. I did no research whatsoever prior to buying it. It was a little disappointing to find out that it couldn’t be played like a real piano. If I had seen your video prior to to buying it, I definitely would not have bought it. That being said, it was a very fun and satisfying build and will go great as a display piece on the shelf. Great video!
@peternewman293
@peternewman293 2 жыл бұрын
You said that you did not expect anymore songs to be added. Please do not express opinions unless you know them to be true. At current date there are 10 and 20 songs available. Always new it was not fully playable. This is hands down the best lego set I own
@37Draakje
@37Draakje 4 жыл бұрын
The reason it cant make music by its own is due to the fact the strings would be top short. Everyone with common sense would know a lego set like this wont produce sound by itself...
@BricksAhoy
@BricksAhoy 4 жыл бұрын
On its own, no. With app integration and sensors, like this had, it could have seemed much more possible. A lot of people misinterpreted the language. I don't think there were many people that would think the plastic would actually create sound on its own, though
@vojtasjedyny
@vojtasjedyny 4 жыл бұрын
@@BricksAhoy You would be surprised. McDonalds put "Caution: Hot" on coffee cup for a reason. :>
@davidjking
@davidjking 4 жыл бұрын
Lego make “models”. This is an excellent looking model! Very happy with it! I think the word “playable” here means it can be played with, a comment applied to many other models’ “playability”. If you want a piano that “plays” you need to go for the real thing: keyboard or piano. Expect to play quite a lot more!!
@awesomeninja886mc2
@awesomeninja886mc2 4 жыл бұрын
I have an idea for how they could have made it functional: They add rubber bands and stretch them as necessary to fit the notes. Then the hammers would hit the bands and play a sound. No electronic components needed, and it's still playable. Sure, it may not sound EXACTLY like a grand piano (edit: it would probably sound a bit more like an acoustic guitar now that I think about it) but it's still playable. Not sure how they would input the pre-recorded songs though.
@ThinkCleverAndSmart
@ThinkCleverAndSmart 4 жыл бұрын
The stretched rubber bands would indeed make some sound, but not much. Also, the tension created would be far too big for any lego construction to handle. That's why real pianos have a solid cast frame (the harp) to hold the strings
@awesomeninja886mc2
@awesomeninja886mc2 4 жыл бұрын
@@ThinkCleverAndSmart Good point, though I can't really see an alternative. But the rubber bands might fit if they were stretched just past where the hammer hits them. Maybe one end would be placed around a half inch past the point where the hammer hits the band, and the rest of it stretches underneath the hammer.
@jameskratzer4538
@jameskratzer4538 4 жыл бұрын
There are contact-sensitive transistors available that LEGO could have built into bricks, in segments, to click onto mounting plates for each hammer to strike when playing the keys. This set is more of an adult model than a child's toy anyway, so it would have almost been a fit replacement for the canceled Osprey. But then, it may have been an incursion from Technics and Ideas into Mindstorms or Boost!, and we couldn't have that, now could we?😱
@awesomeninja886mc2
@awesomeninja886mc2 4 жыл бұрын
@@jameskratzer4538 I mean the real set has a motor and whatnot so it's not unlikely that they would do that. Though I do wonder if it would still fit.
@cyboticzombie
@cyboticzombie 4 жыл бұрын
The only Lego channel who passed the 1000 sub mark with a single video
@aquaticchaos1717
@aquaticchaos1717 4 жыл бұрын
Interesting video! I was unsure about playability myself, but I’d argue it’s 18+ because it could be using advanced building techniques, akin to other massive models like the NES and Death Star(s)
@BricksAhoy
@BricksAhoy 4 жыл бұрын
I'm not too sold on this. It feels like LEGO is pushing a number of sets toward adult fans to try to reduce the stigma around LEGO being a child's toy. The four Art mosaic sets are 18+, too, and they're literally instructions for putting the correct stud/tile in the correct spot. Like paint by numbers without the added difficulty of having to stay within the lines, and if you make a mistake, you have a brick separator handy. I do think this piano would have been 14+ or 16+, if the age was based on build difficulty
@josephcheeseinthepie6915
@josephcheeseinthepie6915 4 жыл бұрын
Hi, BricksAhoy! (Prepare for a very long comment.) When I first saw the title for this video, I thought, "Don't tell me...the keys STICK when I try playing it?!?" To be honest, that was my biggest worry at first. However, after watching the entire video, the most disappointing thing is that Powered UP is included with the set. Take a look at the recent LEGO NES or the Crocodile; they were Powered UP compatible, but didn't include any of the elements. (I'll just address "Powered UP" as "PU".) If they did include the PU elements, the NES would be about $300, and the Crocodile would be about $190. To put things into perspective, imagine paying $300 for the NES set instead of paying $300 for a Nintendo Switch, which would do quite a bit more. To get back to the piano, I'm thinking with the same perspective. Don't get me wrong, the LEGO Piano is a masterpiece, I could buy a used but working 81-key keyboard for a lesser amount of money. If the sensor can only detect one key at a time, doesn't that make the product plunge in value? Think about it: There are actually functioning toy pianos of about the same size that cost about 1/6 as much as the LEGO Piano. I think that if there was no PU app or any unnecessary stuff like that, the set would be better off. I would be happy enough playing the piano without a motor and without sound! And yet, LEGO made quite a bit of mistakes along the way, resulting in this product. In the end, I don't think the LEGO Piano is a flop, but there are so many things, from advertising to the build itself, that could've been rearranged to make the product better as a whole. This is coming from the guy who is a passionate piano and supported the project without hesitation. What could be done to make this product better? Just use the original project, unaltered! An incidental note, while speaking of a set including PU, I think that Powered UP stinks, in some ways. (Hence why I'm calling it "PU".) Though it does eliminate the annoying requirement of putting a rather clunky IR receiver somewhere in a LEGO model where it can't fit in, it is just WAY too expensive. At least for Power Functions, powering one LEGO model alone cost, at least on average, about $30-$40. With PU, it always costs more than $70 to power one model alone. Not only that, but LEGO is trying to eliminate the remote control by incorporating apps. Seriously, not EVERYONE has a cellphone with Bluetooth technology! And yet, LEGO is expecting its customers to have it. Forgive me for making such a long comment, BricksAhoy! Have a great day, good sir, and take care. Regards, Joseph cheeseinthepie. 8/6/2020
@renascitur7051
@renascitur7051 3 жыл бұрын
Woah. They can make a piano with 2 octaves play clair de lune... I wish I could do that
@ChrisMartin-iy2yy
@ChrisMartin-iy2yy 18 күн бұрын
I just wish that we could add "Peaches" from the Mario movie to play while displayed with the Mighty Bowser set.
@michaellacock
@michaellacock 4 жыл бұрын
They do/did sell the ir distance sensor separate. It was apart of the Lego WeDo 1st gen.
@penfold7800
@penfold7800 4 жыл бұрын
Yes and I guess, theoretically you could have it read across the hammers to determine which key was pressed, but in reality it would be totally impractical. For two simple, similar, reasons: The delay on the hammers falling back down to normal would block the other keys behind from being sensed at the right time, And Secondly, the software delay between sensor signal data, processing and playback would make anything remotely meaningfully tuneful impossible. If they had made a separate beep circuit on each key, it would have been hideously expensive, and it wouldn't have worked anyway because getting the tuning accurate with individually seperate circuits would have been near impossible. Just watching the videos from Yamaha Corp that explain the history of thier development of electronic keyboards over the years and how the mechanical aspects, and electronic circuitry work, makes it clear to me just how complicated it is.
@michaellacock
@michaellacock 4 жыл бұрын
@@penfold7800 very good points. I was also thinking about it too, even if software was used to determine what key was pressed, it would only work with one key at a time if there is only one sensor.
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