Mf fr just tobito'd his way lmao

Facts

It was the name that did it for me too

Tobi is just obito without the o at the end

​@@void-os9mzu sure?

Nah it's the Konan fight when he had 2 eyes

Exactly. Once he was able to 🧢 the world into working together, i thought it WAS Madara

Did anyone wonder why the other Uchiha weren't reanimated during the 4th Great Ninja War? Like I was waiting to see a revived Shisui (presumably with his eyes intact) and the rest of the Uchiha clan.

@@rondoe7585 for Shisui it's because there was no DNA left. His body was destroyed in the Waterfall, his eye in Danzo's possession was destroyed with Danzo's Death, and the one given to Itachi was destroyed by Itachi after Kotoamatsukami was used on him. As for the rest of the Uchiha, I can think of a few reasons: 1) like Itachi there's a fear of that many Sharingans one of them breaking free and freeing the others; 2) Itachi & Tobi managed to kill all of them by themselves, what real use could they be outside of Slightly stronger fodder; 3) it's quite possible that Kabuto just didn't have access to DNA from those killed in the Massacre and Obito kept his Sharingan storehouse a secret from Kabuto because he truly did not trust him.

⁠@@diamonshade7484 how did he have two eyes? I thought that was mandara who attacked the leaf cause your right, now that it’s over, we know!! it was him but his sharingan is on the whole wrong side. I always thought that konoha attack was mandara and then tobi took the new mask on his apropriate eyes?

Pretty sure he had a case of split personality disorder

@@steventhekid2150damn, any of them freaky?

That was Zetsu

It was split personality from him being merged with Zetsu

White Zetsu, specifically the one with the swirl.

True, even if I were an idiot and didn't know, it was exposed who Tobi was even before unmasking (Kakashi literally said that their visuals are connected

I guessed it from the make Tobi and obito have the same letter just in diff order and a extra O, I don’t believe in anime death with no body 😭😭😭

@@jayblack2075 that’s because he was crush under a bunch of rocks lol. I guess Jiraiya’s still alive. Actually, I haven’t watched Boruto yet. Don’t respond to that Jiraiya bit. Hopefully, I can get to it soon.

@@TheUKisTherejiraiya isn’t even alive it’s just a clone made from his dna completely different character

@@dontmindmejustyourlocalret3029 I should’ve read my reply first. I’ll pretend I didn’t see that or was disrespected in such a manner.

I mean the letters are just rearranged

Just take the last 3 and the first 2 in that order and that's it

Oh My God!!!!!!!!!!! I watch Jojo

That's really neat

Tobito

There is a certain trope about idiot characters in anime. If it's a main character you follow, they are allowed to be goofballs with no ulterior motives. If it's a side character outshined by much cooler badass characters, expect them to be the final boss or close to it.

Honestly I knew he was going to be really important the moment I saw him, like how can you not design such a non serious character be so powerful either he would get serious or he was hiding under a voice

There's a trope in the east about goofball characters at first. They are introduced as idiots or comic relief, but are usually later revealed as wise sages. Think of Yoda in Star Wars for example. Tricked Luke into thinking he was a swamp creature and frustrated him. Only to reveal he was the grandest of all the Jedi in recent memory, the master of his own master. It's meant to reinforce the lesson of "Do not judge by first impressions."

I remember arguing with a friend because they swore it was danzo lmao. He maintained this stance even after danzo got killed off 😂

@@SparerYahya dont lie, there's no indication Tobi was "hiding" under a voice until the reveal with Pain

That was zetzu

The same zetzu that controlled yamato

Wait what? It was Zetzu? How? This man was using Kamai when he was with Deidara

The fool persona he used was zetzu, it was obitos body and abilities, it was the same zetzu that asked obito when he was a kid what does doing poos feel like, that same zetzu came off obito and took over Yamato ,

@@user-oj3vp2mb8f ohhh I see, I remember that

Me too....I always thought he was a rando that was going to get clapped easily 😂

Yea, thats when i realized tobi was possibly not just a gag character. When sasuke sliced tobi and it went str8 through him, sasuke looked concerned, dumbfounded. If sasuke was surprised then something had to be up.

@@juliustaylor9920sasuke was perplex

@@darkfox1861 u do know perplexed and dumbfounded are pretty much the same thing right?

@@juliustaylor9920 I know it’s just for the sake of being redundant

For me it was obvious as a manga reader. BUT i was a decently well read 20 something. My teenage brother had no clue. I explained the writing convention of there being no point to showing obito if he wasnt going to be a character later. As Kakashi was just as interesting without tbe background fully explained. Then he started claiming it was Madara using obito other eye. Then he felt really justified when tobi claimed to be Madara. I have sense NEVER let go how i was right and he was wrong😂

Started a war for a girl, real dawggggg

@@tegathemenacesomeone needs to rewatch naruto 💀

@@tegathemenace😂😂😂 all over a misunderstanding too, kakashi was ready to go out like a G for Rin and she jumped in front of that shit 💀 my nigga its not his fault yo girl got took and made a bomb 😂

​@@tegathemenaceforgot about madara seal ehh? Lol

Am I perspiring was cooler. Either he’s said that or it was captions

Not gonna lie but I lowkey thought it was madara under tobis mask or some crazy new Uchiha , but I did think it was weird how there was a child in kakashis old Team called óbito . I guess wondering his identity was fun for me when I didn’t know

Thot spotted

Nobody was saying that years ago

Yeah I honestly had no idea. Only when it was revealed I thought damn that makes sense

it was kinda obvious to be honest

Exactly what I was saying Mf lying and shit If we said we knew it was obito So you mean obito would have the mind to fight minato

Bro I knew that shit circa 2010 dude. It honestly was the worst kept secret in all of anime. I took it all as "him not being the real Madara" was the actual twist. It didn't even occur to me that people were fooled by the Obito-Tobi shit. Bro didn't even go for Toby with Y 💀 dude was begging people to put that together. Don't act like it was some grand mystery. If it fooled you cool, but a lot of us knew that shit immediately. I had a friend that said Obito on accident when talking about Tobi and that alone made him figure it out.

When asked he literally said it wasn't Obito. It's why a lot of people who knew it was Obito retreated like they were dumb early on. Especially once he said he was Madara. People trusted the writer to not lie to them when they got something right just so he could go 'I got you' later. And then he did that exact thing.

@@calebkopp7636 see but kishi would do a flashback right before revealing the character as an adult so I'm just like nah its obito and I ain't know how yahiko had rinnegan but I never doubted that it was nagato. Kishimoto almost did play me with nagato though because unlike obito he wasnt wearing a mask. Using yahiko as his main body threw me for a loop

@@cmanrocket6 oh yeah, agreed it was very obvious it was obito. But for some reason a lot of modern writers are taught that if people are able to predict what you are going to do, AKA having good foreshadowing character design and directing, then you are predictable and ergo bad. So a lot of them feel the need to cover for their plot twist by either not foreshadowing at all and making it so it's just a Twist and nothing else, or they have to not address it when people get it right. But unfortunately not addressing certain theories makes it kind of obvious which one is true. So I honestly believe he panicked and said no even though he knew it was true because for some reason people believe good foreshadowing is bad. And because he had done good twists in the past, most people believed him on this which created this illusion that there was a bigger plot going on than the one that was being foreshadowed. I honestly kind of feel bad for the guy, but I also remember a lot of people just calling me an idiot for thinking it was Obito after Kishimoto said it wasn't.. so the eventual feel was kind of cathartic even if it did hurt the audience's Trust In what he was writing for a bit. For the record none of this is an insult to the writer or people's ability to figure out the puzzle, it just seems to be a byproduct of the current phase entertainment media is currently in.

Well to our perspective it was obvious it was meant to full the characters in the series plus he always altered his voice to sound like Madara

Well there were some people at the time that also thought it could’ve been shisui

nice, I had a hunch the moment he showed his serious side

might not be that you're dumb, maybe a part of you didn't really want to figure it out for the experience

Fr that feeling of surprise is better than finding it out tbh

Young me and new anime watcher struggled to comprehend how someone could realistically survive that boulder and ruled him out with no one else as an obvious possibility but a new character introduction. Now I have learned in Shonen that some people can survive death with plot armour

100%@@uneedrambo716

Kagami Izuna Obito or Future Sasuke Everyone was convinced it was Future Sasuke when he revealed a second sharingan

Nah maybe those who didn’t have functional brain thought that but if u read the manga instead of waiting for the anime it was easy to know it was obito😂

Bro who tf thought it was Sasuke

we was deadass 8 and theorized it was Obito y'all were on some shit 😂

"everyone" that was smoking some good shit though it was Sasuke from the future.

Faxs

Nah shisui has no eyes he gave his eye to itachi remember and Danzo stole his eye

Because of his name: Shisui the *teleporter*

Actually Shisui could become a very cool villian and this was a very cool theory But they main problem of it is that then why he only has one eye when Shisui had none

Not the worst guess

Damn no comment? Lemme fix that for you

Tsunade

So true

Example?

​@@rizzlethegreat9682example of what? That many japanese authors like wordplay? Akira toriyama uses them for most of his naming conventions. Goku / kakarot is carrot, and like him all saiyans are based on vegetables. Freezer, cold, cooler, they are all based on frost theme. Eichiro oda who is writing the best selling manga of date uses a wordplay system attributing sounds to numbers and uses them for significant pirate bounties. On top of that, tobi and obito are almost the same, it's not that hard

You'd be surprised. I got flamed MERCILESSLY on old manga forums for saying it was obvious who Obito was. Just constant "that's too obvious dumbass you must be a literal gullible child if you believe that shit fucking idiot" type responses.

Talk for yourself Who would say obito would have the mind to face minato come on

@@princeosim8995exactly they just talking out they ass no one thought it was obito especially when the maga was at saskue finally taking down itachi. Once tobi told us he was madara we all belived it. Shortly after kisame realized he was madara and we had no reason to belive that kisame would lie. Kisame didn’t even know it was obito he was only known him to be madara even kisame thought he was madara sun this was the pain arc. Before the pain arc tobi was just a dummy character.. no one took him seriously sure he was in the akatski but we assumed he’d be beaten up in the first fight he was in. The first fight we see him in is deidra and saskue and he don’t even take the lead in the fight he runs away. No one had no real indication he was obito. Besides the people who say “tobi and obito sound similar “ that’s not grounds enough to outright say well it’s him. There was never no proof. We didn’t get the flashbacks until after the fact. But since years have passed and it’s not the actual moment people pretending they knew. Really people trying to discredit kishimotos writing ability… and that he was so predictable yet when we was all growing up watching Naruto in real time we didn’t predict Jack we had to watch the story unfold. Now that people can just binge watch Naruto they love to say “oh this was so obvious “ keep in mind sometime there was months before a new episode or Managua chapter. Most people was not reading manag online. The ones that did were the ones farther ahead. Most people depended on anime episodes to know what was going on.

@@myheadhurtbro6692 fr fr You said it all

I’m glad someone remembers this. There were a couple dozen videos trying to de-bunk the Tobi = Obito theory. The name and the similar hair made it pretty clear to me that it was Obito, but like 1/3 the fandom thought it couldn’t possibly have been him.

It was a weird time, that camp was in such cope because they would say its so OBVIOUS that it isnt Obito because the name is basically the same it was a "diversion" or a rug pull lmao. Funny times.

@@ixiNOVAglad I started watching Naruto once it was done 😂

@@farrquehussein2350yea same lol

​@@farrquehussein2350 Yeah you guys missed the most braindead retard copers. They were aggravating in their denial of obvious shit. Even worse when they'd say "NO ONE COULD HAVE SEEN THAT COMING, YOU'RE LYING IF YOU SAID YOU KNEW."

Hair can easily change so that wasn’t exactly a giveaway

@@shaanajaz8541 For you. Everybody knows Madara from his long hair. Obito's haircut was exactly the same as Tobi's. The death of Obito only confirmed our suspicion because of the side of his eye where his Sharingan appeared. But I'm speaking for those who figured it out before the reveal.

@@divineeternity7268 facts, if he kept his long hair, people would find it more believable that it’s Madara because they have the same hair

That is average hair lol

But how could you know it was Obito before Obito was ever mentioned? Or did I miss something? Because I thought Kakashis past (including Obito) was revealed way later

Yeah by tht time everyone figured it out 😂 but before tht nobody had a clue until right before we saw the flashback funny how everyone acting like they knew now

​@@theformidablefrog1967 people slow af fr, once they zoomed in on that sharingan in his right eye it was so damn obvious who he was and his name made sense

​@@lazarperic4525 Obito's right eye was crushed by a boulder so that immediately eliminated Obito from my pool of characters Kishimoto is just an awful writer. There was evidence both for and against Obito being Tobi

fr

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Yeah but he was “Madara”

I thought it was izuna

During the war I'm still confused did Obito switch masks an get the fan or was that madara

Can u send link?

He was the only one who figured it out everyone else is lying and I dont get why that guy is goated, he had the typical youtube blue background with the default text and some images

​@@scrumz9028I think the video has been taken down I can't find it anymore

Look for Kingpinsquid99 and search for obito is tobi. I watched the same video back then.

Kingpinsquid99 has one I watched years ago

I feel like this was the most logical and popular wrong theory people had, including myself.

No they weren’t he wasn’t out in the early 2000s you guys are lying

@@zayzizzleeverybody in the comments lying if i aint mistaken tobi came out before obito did😂

@@hertzy9567 this super facts! They ain’t og fans at all!

​@hertzy9567 the Manga has the kakashi backstory at the end of part 1 iirc

@@kanthersghost8379 chapter 239

Exactly lmaoo same haircut

The biggest flub in the anime tbh. In the manga, we get Kakashi Gaiden in between the time skip, and the Three Tails filler arc never happened (Deidara just kinda pulls up on it and Tobi just kinda jokes around. We do get the dumpling shop tho). So it wasn't nearly as obvious bc you don't see Kakashi's backstory right before this guy with spiky black hair and one eye is introduced

Same.

​​@@researchinbreeder as a guy watched all filler but never read manga i accept that your words are true bro

Hahaha his actual Obito voice was so lame, I was actually disappointed that he was the villain 😂

Or the Fourth Hokage.

I mean similar hair and never seeing his bandaged eye and he could've been pretending to be crippled. Interesting What If...? situation.

​@@needsanameedit4982yea I originally thought it was Danzo 😂

I was that mf 😭

You honestly saw that panel where half his body was crushed - covered with boulders and somehow said "Yup that's him" totally magically alive. Keep in mind we knew nothing of his abilities and he said he could even feel his left side.

I mean, in the manga it was harder to guess with this point beacuse the flashback happened between the time skip

Until latter on before the reveal like say during the Kage Summit hell it was Kakashi who didnt have the swirl effect

we didnt know but it was a safe bet given that they had similar effects and tobi said that kamui wouldnt work against him

I'm one of those people, because it just made sense. Shisui the teleporter and Tobi's technique was teleporting through things. Even if they had the eyes connected with Kakashi I was still under the impression that Shisui could've recovered Obito's body and stole his eye, eventually awakening the Kamui we see Obito doing now. Another thing was the motivation. We knew who Obito was through the Kakashi Chronicles, but we only heard whispers of Shisui, giving plenty of room who the character could be and his motivations. Because Masashi Kishimoto would have to thoroughly convince me that Obito who put his friends first would just do a 180 like that and go against the ninja world like that. Giving us a motivation of why he would go against his teacher and everything. I'm still not convinced of his reasons, because Rin died?

That was when shit made me believe he at least has his eye. When he said he found it

For anime watchers this is true. Not so much for manga readers.

Yeah it was very much a thing where I was waiting to see kakashi put it together rather than waiting to see who it was cause I figured it out once I watched the kakashi chronicles.

Surprisingly, a lot of people were surprised. I knew about him before I watched the show but I've seen several people who didn't know I think some people thought it might end up being Madara but I'm not sure

BULLSHIT most of them thought it was madara anyone that thought it was obito got made fun of, don't try to memory hole it

@@vanomzero yeah maybe in your small circle of people. I was part of forums where hundreds and probably thousands of us came to the conclusion it was Obito using basic common sense

Ironically, most of the community didn’t know it was obito… also ironic how 95% of people who didn’t know it was obito, instantly switched up and acted like they knew the whole time. Blah blah blah, forums this and forums that… something tells me you didn’t even watch the show as it came out

⁠@@Netherwolf6100”yeah maybe in your small circle of people”… continues to mention a SUPER small forum with only a petty, maybe thousand people in it when the show consisted of millions of fans…. Yeah you’re one of those “look at me I’m very smart” type of people.

No literally like thats a big clue I think most people looked past. But I do remember thinking kakashi just sliced the arm rather than making warp into another dimension

What the fuck are you taking about? Are you talking about the kakashi gaiden? Because that literally happened in between the time skip

From what I was told it was paced differently in the manga. Either way its obvious when you think about it. Then again I didn't think about it so what do i know

@@miguelzurita3216 are you not up to that part in the manga? all of it happens at once

@@theonetruefusion8533 I'm all caught up. I just didn't think(or care) about putting the two together.

@@theonetruefusion8533 what I was saying about the flashbacks was the anime and manga show the flashbacks at different points or at least what I've been told

Facts

Whatever you got to tell yourself

Looking back I don't even think it was supposed to be a mystery. The only real intentional misdirect was him claiming to be Madara, but beyond that most of the clues Kishimoto included spelled it out. The more important aspect was why did this once nice kid who is a parallel to Naruto end up as one of the final bosses

That’s the point

I wanted it to be shisui

Yeah it would’ve been better as shisui.. I feel like kishimito intended it to be shisui and then changed his mind later.. 😒

How the fuck do you see it and think he becomes somebody who wasn’t even introduced yet

Glad you didn’t lie like everyone else in the comments

@@zayzizzle I mean they pretty much basically told us it was obito. Plus the change of voice when he saw the 3tails pretty much confirmed it for me

Japanese fans fr said, "Kishi this is so OBVIOUS😂"

Shisui lost both his eye so how?

​@@yoda5668He got another's eye.

@@QwertyRulz2 he gave that shit to itachi.the first one got snatched by danzo

Honestly, With how bog the clues were for those twists I'm still wondering how people made debunk videos

@@kai8618 Somebody always has to be a contrarian.

Good comparison

@@thegreatclayton Thanks.

this was the level of logic used for proof it was him and somehow it was right.

Tobi is not Obito backwards Obito backwards is otibo

@@lesouth0348 close enough

I like how none of the cast knew for sure except kabuto somewhat onoki. Kabuto looked at him and say shut your lying arse up 😂

In Japanese, Obito backwards is Tobio, so it’s Obito backwards with the extra O removed.

​@JayKayofficia no it isn't. You're just wrong You can literally look at tobi and tell it isn't obito backwards

I mean he did kinda right ?