I say both yes and no. I remember driving across country a couple decades ago and hearing evangelical preachers on the radio, saying vile things about Catholics even then. I remember being quite shocked about what I was hearing at that time.

Race, religion, whatever. People will always hate or at least distrust "the other". Southern Italians were "others" at that time. My family came here about the same time (early 1900s) but settled in the North. Maybe they were treated better there, I don't know. They were certainly used as factory and mining fodder along with the Poles, Checks, Slavs, Germans, etc. A mule cost $5, they can always get another "worker".

I think it was more socially motivated, and race was an excuse or catalyst. The folks that did it were lower class According to the info you got, and usually, if one group is prospering in the eyes of folks who were told they were a superior class, it tends to end in violence. This is fuel for black and white racism. The whites that were sold an American dream and taken out of poverty and given privilege become very upset when they see the ppl prosper while they still suffer economically and physically. The only real racists are poor whites and those who are descendants of poor whites. They are suffering from cognitive dissonance and are having a mental malfunction when the actual truth about Black and Latino ppl unfolds before their eyes.

@@Old_Sailor85 similar to australia

Yes, it was racially motivated in so far as race was understood at the time. It seems that 99% of the people who comment on your videos---which are all very well done, btw---have no engagement whatsoever with Italian American history. As a result, they have no context in which to understand an incident like this one. One can split hairs and say, oh, it's not racist, it's nativist. But that's a failure to understand within the context of the times, and as such, I would argue it does a great disservice and disrespect to these people and this history. One cannot understand the Italian immigrant experience of the early 20th century without understanding notions of race at the time, pseudo-science such as eugenics, and pseudo-academic theory such as Social Darwinism, all of which came together in rather volatile ways and ultimately shut the door (leaving open only a slight crack) to Italian immigration in 1924. I commend you for unearthing this history, and this incident in particular, which I've only seen referenced once in scholarship.

Don’t call people Negroes simp! Unless you wanna be referred to as a slur

that racism towards Italians "Goes" Nothing has changed. WOPs were the w3tbacks of the day. However it was no better for the Germans, the Irish, or the Jews. Sadly when it comes to racism in the U$A, the only thing that has changed is who you're allowed to hate.

Negroes? That term hasn't been used in the US, outside of bigoted circles, since the '60s. In the 21st century, black/black American or African American suffices. There's some more education✔

Cracker means joker in Irland by the way. Wise crack for example.

@@josephmartinez751 I had never heard this term until I moved down from the North. Had no earthy idea what people were talking about.

The problem from an American perspective is that in order to be considered white in the US you need to have blonde hair and blue eyes, or red hair with green eyes you don’t have these features then you’re not white to them. It is very ironic considered that there is something called the white Mediterranean race. And not all Americans have Viking features, just a few Americans have those features. Most blondes in the US are bottled or pharmacy blonde.

@@davruck1It is true in the US there seems to be some preference for people with light hair and light eyes. In comparison with people with dark hair and dark eyes are more mistreated by the Anglo Saxon population in the US. There is something called the white Northern European supremacy that most Americans with light hair and light eyes feels superior to those with darker features. It is sad but the truth that no one in that American 🇺🇸 country wants to speak out about. I have many friends that are from Southern Europe that have visited some small towns in the US and they were stared and looked differently by the Anglo Americans. And most women in the US are racist they only want to married blonde hair blue eyes men tall and handsome like dolph Lundgren. They feel ashamed if they married someone darker to them and their American family won’t accept it. Most Americans are brain washed with the Northern Germanic-Anglo- Viking mentality.

Have you ever read the bible? This is where the concept comes from.

That’s something we find in all races and cultures. No big surprise. People are blending into a beige skin tone. Everyone will be the same, seems like that’s what the majority is seeking.

There are tanned WASPs too.

Olive Garden, oh noooo!!💔

@@nytn Hahahaha, I know

👍.

LOL!! I noticed the same thing down in Atlanta!!

Moved to TN in 2020 and when I asked where I could find good pizza I was told Pizza Hut or dominos! Ugh! Also, not many folks whose last name ends with a vowel.

This issue is not exclusive to "white" countries. Its basically the history of the world, and still exists is many countries today, The demographics of Italy today is 95% Italian. They obviously are not open to immigration themselves. Same can be said for most countries of the world. Its only really the anglo-western countries that have tried a multi-racial experiment, Only exception would be France. Right now most of Europe has elected conservative governments and are pushing back against woke agendas like LGBT/Trans issues and immigration. Greece, Italy, Poland, Hungary, and most of Europe are not in favour of immigration or the LGBT agenda. Its even worse in non-western countries like Islamic countries where its still common for minorities to be attacked and murdered. Most of Africa, Asia and the world dont take immigrants or support LGBTs.. Even with its past racial problems, countries like the US have done an incredible job making a functioning multi-racial society, and keeping peace between racial groups.

Always remember, there is no country in the world above Italy , we created everything in every field, everybody else are 2-3

You didn’t have to be Italian, light or dark skinned to be bullied and ridiculed by some ‘Canadians’ back in the 50s. We were from the Netherlands, white, blond and blue eyed and our experience was similar. My father was “taking the job away from their father”, “go back where you came from” and in some cases as children called ‘DPs’ (displaced persons) and being beat up on simply because we were different and couldn’t speak English, our clothes were different and we weren’t allowed to participate in some activities that Canadian children were. It was culture shock for us until we learned ‘to fit in’ and that was certainly easier to do than for those Europeans of swarthier complexion. After acclimatizing, moving from our original residence in one community to another helped somewhat in being accepted because as children we learned the language quickly. However, our last names continued to give us away. We all have our stories and I’m sure others experience easier times. I’m happy to be Canadian and I love this country. I believe we are getting better at accepting differences but we can always improve. 🇨🇦🇨🇦❤️❤️

Canada worse they still attack Italians today Don’t believe tune into a tv or radio station

@@iamanomas Right, Kids who are bullies will find any difference, even when you are from the same ethnicity, bullies will find something. Catholics and protestants used to have issues, they will pick on your weight, or class, or just make something up.

Ti credo.

not sicillian ,italian

Viva Sicilia

Your family attacked them first.

@@D4L_457 how do ypu know were you there,put your real name up. punk

wow this is wild

Sicilians weren't "treated like blacks".

@@themaskedman221her mother clearly was numb nuts 🤦🏾‍♂️

@@babyboy562 Grab a dictionary and look up the word 'clearly', because writing something on the internet doesn't count.

@@themaskedman221I’m sicilian and have been called the N word.. mistakenly of course. Some Sicilians are extremely dark especially in summer

@@mariecait That's awful, but fortunately most other Sicilians do not have that experience and would probably find your story bizarre.

Absolutely, I am here benefiting from the work my family put in to succeed here in America. So grateful for that.

@@nytnAgree! Same here!!

Brava.

@@lucianomezzetta4332 Tante Grazie, Signore.

But today y'all love them white folks now right. Once they learned y'all was willing to hate Black people they accepted y'all. In 1953 how many of y"all died or did they just called y'all name? Where is your neighborhood that the white people stole from y'all like the did the Black people that lived in Central Park? But y'all hate us.

And another thing: John Cabot was Italian. Giovanni Caboto sailed and explored for the English. Can the late Henry Cabot Lodge be Italian? Neither he nor his family would admit it.

@@michaelpisani5962 Amerigo(America!) Vespucci

@@michaelpisani5962 No: Cabot is a french name of Jersey (the island)

@@michaelpisani5962 Add to that that John Cabot with another Italian William Paca were among those who signed the Declaration of Independence.

@@starventure What ironic quote: people Who call and claim their great Land of United state of “America “ use and proclame by theyself with an very ancestral and clásic Italian woman name , and then discriminates the people and the country that named , discover your isolate, , unknown and savage land , after all of that , they bulling you… you , that is a ridiculous shame. 🇮🇹❤️💪🏻

EVEN italians who are not sicilian are dark skinned only the north off italy is for the most part full white but even the italians in Switzerland have dark hair and dark eyes and can pass for middle eastern people while alot middle eastern people especially those from libanon and syria or north irak have blond hair and bleu eyes

@@jamelb2230 Yes, this the misconception that northern Italians look "Nordic or Germanic" is BS, e.g. blond haired, tall and light skinned, etc. There are many southern Italians or even Sicilians who are light skinned and light eyed and hair or blond, and there are northern Italians who are short, dark haired and dark skinned. Many Bavarian's are short and dark haired and look like Italians.

@@jamelb2230 You are quite possibly the biggest idiot posting here and you've got fierce competition.

Everyone was segregated in the past, mostly around religious lines. even white catholics and protestants were segregated. Its still the case in most of the world, Even in places like Africa different tribes segregate, Most of the world still doesnt accept immigrants including nearly all of Europe. Italy is 95% Italian. Greece is 98% Greek, Poland is 99% Polish, same with Hungary and all others with the exception of France. We dont even need to talk about the Islamic countries. Its only really the Anglo-English speaking western countries that have a large immigrant intake.

@@tubester4567 Except white ethnic segregation had all but disappeared by the 1980s while Hispanic and black residential segregation was high and is still relatively high. By the 1970s only one in four white marriages involved spouses of the same ancestry and today that number is essentially zero. There is no "Italian-American" or "German-American" population -there are Americans with Italian and German last names, and Italian and German ancestry, but these are not discrete groups.

There are a LOT of ‘not white’ people in the world. They are by no means all black or even fit in to the whole binary situation, that has some weird exceptions. So it is very clear where the misperceptions come from and why they exist.I am always perplexed by people who are ‘not white’ but into the ideation that has such bad thinking behind it. No matter who they are or what they look like.

@@lindyashford7744 Yes: there are a lot of "not white" people, but they aren't Italians. You must go to Italy and prepare you to an enormous cultural shock. Aahahahahaha. You can imagine how much we laugh in Europe about your racial perspective? You aren't considered cool.

I'm English and my mother once dated an Italian before getting married to my father. It wasn't considered in the way you've suggested. Europeans don't classify other Europeans as non-white even if they have darker skin, because we all have light skin and apart from mongoloid populations in the far north and east we are all caucasions.

@@idratherbeaphilthanajustin9533 Mein Gott, mon Dieu, Dio mio, Dios mio...having to do some clarifications to Americans is discouraging! Aahahaha.

@@idratherbeaphilthanajustin9533gtfoh your a liar…..look at the way Gypsies and Ashkenazi Jews are treated in Europe smh

If you go back into the history of Italy you will find the peoples were all dark skinned. Over time that all changed. Then Hannibal invaded it and like Spain with the moors the dark skinned men found the fair skinned women attractive and likewise, well you know what happened after that.

Yes phyllis blue eyed big Italian American here roots in Sicily....hello from NYC

@@salrusso1233 green eyed, dark skinned Sicilian from New Orleans. Four generations ago someone changed Conigliaro to Russo

@@charlesrusso7523 My last name is actually Amodeo my grandfather was from Pantanal sicily.Sicily.. sal russo is a name I use lol ....hello from NYC

When someone found I was Italian, they thought that all Italians had dark skin. I have light skin like my mother's side of the family. Dad's side had light skin, too.

No one in my family talked about the prejudice my great- grandparents experience because they spoke German.

They were considered black…..because a lot of them WERE black….with Afros…..surprise!!!! Historical facts are a hell of a drug. All of these categories the white man had to come up with shows the ignorance and madness of racism

Anti Blackness is as Italian as pasta

@@m.scottjohnson4788 Thank you. It always makes me laugh when racist communities complain when the same gets done to them. Then they actually expect sympathy.

My father’s family is all southern Italian and Sicilian while my mother’s family is all from Mississippi. My dad was always a bit of a novelty amongst mom’s half of the family. My dad has darker complexion. He was more confused as Hispanic than black. On the other hand, my mother was sometimes treated differently for not being Italian or catholic. It worked both ways.

In Italy they exist too

No they don’t.. Italians are quite assimilated into white America and harbor some of the most racist sentiments towards minorities. This notion that they’re somehow victims in 2023 is complete and utter nonsense.

​@nicoparise-jc5fs Latins doesn’t mean your dark necessarily. The italic tribes migrated from central Europe. In any case, there is no such thing as race. It's a Sociopolitical construct

Mediterranean means nothing. There are European mediterranean, Maghreb mediterranean, Middle eastern Mediterranean, Turks Mediterranean mixed with orientals, etcetera.

@@nicoparise-jc5fs ??? Latins came in Italy from Czechia, not from Mexico.

@@nicoparise-jc5fs The Latins were only one of several tribes that settled on the Italian peninsula.

@@giorgiodifrancesco4590 Exactly, and the average European from the Mediterranean looks nothing like West Asians. To jump from Northern European skin complexion to "Middle Eastern" is the most idiotic thing I've heard all week -most Italians have medium skin tones like Central Europeans. It's the most common skin tone in Europe.

I’m so excited for you! I hope to go some day as well. my brother went for a few months and stayed in an old family home that still stands.

@@nytn Wow! what a fabulous experience for your brother! This will be my 2nd trip to Italy, but first to grandfather's home town. You should definitely make it a priority to go.

If I can handle the flight, I might try. Also want to go to Sicily and get one of those 1 Euro houses. JK, Kinda...

@@nytn I would love to do that as well, jk, kinda, lol. I just saw a show called My Big Italian Adventure, where the actress Lorraine Bracco did just that …

@@nytn it will cost you 100000 to fix it and to maintain it. And it will be in the middle of no where.

"older relatives used to laugh saying that one could not tell the difference (visually) between the Italian immigrants and Blacks" Sounds like they were as stupid as you. One look at average Italians and the genetic literature on Italy is enough to question these ridiculously hyperbolic "race" narratives.

Sometimes Italians are considered white.

Italians are white in general altough some look more than middle eastern but majority white some as white as dutch or danish.

​@@johnnyearp52The Romans....

Nah not like dutch or danish​@@tobiasphilippwittlinger8753

Yea they was from Europe and they hated Black people. That all Anglo's needed to hear

I heard that Native Americans could not vote until 1950 or so in some places. I don't know if this is correct.

Why do you say it was "so nuanced"? Are you implying that Italian immigrants were not really treated badly!?

@@lucianomezzetta4332 Of course not. I thought it was straight ethnic hatred, discrimination. But there was a political, ideological element I did not know about.

Vanzetti was piedmontese (born near french border). A northener. Sacco was of Apulia (South of Italy). The racism against southern Italian in the North Is for the most part a joke. There have never been pogroms or lynchings of southerners. Everyone has been married to everyone. There is also no religious difference. Dialect difference is not that important. Generally, in Europe people get married within the same social class, between colleagues, between inhabitants of the same area and between neighbors. The rest is much less important. Italians are parochial rather than racist.

@@giorgiodifrancesco4590 Yeap, parochial.

@@giorgiodifrancesco4590 Yes continentals are more cultural than racial (also in most of the other continents ) But North discrimination towards South has been real and no joke. "No rent for southerners", "No dogs and southerners admitted" and the racial prejudice that the US had towards South Italians was fueled by Northern Italian thinking of the time that saw the South a troubling reality which unpleasant "negroid traits" . Up to the 1970-1980 it wasn't that "joke" it just slowly faded but it didn't disappear. Even the Lega before "the patriot Twist" 🙄 addressed southerners as the enemy and spoke about Secession. Yes it's grotesque but not a "joke". "Luckily" then came African migrants to Europe and Italy, so local racists had a more blatant target , but before the South Italians were the "blacks" of Europe (see Belgium, Germany, Switzerland, England known cases , even murders). And of course the "mafioso" cliché thrown down even to the most hard working people. South Italians endured a lot. Payed a high price to poverty and had a long run to integration. They made it , for the most, but they were treated a bit too unfairly in their own country , when who among them was a real scammer and delinquent had it easier. I don't want to raise controversy, just being honest. I am not even Italian but I explored and studied properly discrimination in Europe , and until the extraeurpean migrations no group was so socially "racially" discriminated like South Italians.

@@elleanna5869 This is the usual whining . If the Northerners hadn't rented to the Southerners immediately, en masse, how do you think millions of Southerners would have come to live in Northern Italy? Hosted by nuns? My father's family came from Apulia in 1950. They were craftsmen and found to rent immediately (and they were a large family...but then it was full of large families even in the North). So did all the normal southerners I know. Except marginal people, who already had problems on their land and already lived in shacks (but they weren't normal in the South). Rather than come and live in a shack, my grandparents would have stayed in their home and region. Despite the whining that is heard from many quarters (often from people from the south who have stayed at home or from people who have heard it from their cousin... a very reliable source...) in the north there are cities, such as Turin , which are the second southern metropolis of Italy, after Naples (most of the inhabitants have Sicilian and Calabrian origins). Milan is the largest Apulian city, before Bari. In 1958, segregation was so strong that my father was already married to a Piedmontese woman. My mother's father asked him only one question: what is your job? His shop was so crowded with Piedmontese customers, he had to work until 10 in the evening. I was born in 1960 and I have never suffered a minute of discrimination. This does not mean that there have not been episodes of discrimination, since it was a matter of mass emigration. In this type of emigration, everyBODY arrives: the good and the bad, and those who arrive meet everything. Then, there may be the Milanese to whom a Sicilian woman denied herself and now hates all Southerners or the cretin who bet near the train station and was robbed of the money bet and now hates all Neapolitans. There is the farmer whose family has always married only the neighbors and is afraid of all strangers. Those are unsolvable situations. They only resolve over time. In fact, the children solved them for them, bringing home people of the most disparate origins, even non-Italian ones.

​@@giorgiodifrancesco4590southern italians were attacked in zurich in the beginning because they lived all in one area. They were seen as loud and criminal(not really pulled by the hair). It came to a progrom. The goverment at the time learned from this and settled southern italians thinly across many areas in the major swiss cities. But in all fairness for a conflict two parties are needed.

Quite accurate IMHO

Pure Italic prejudice. Sicilians are wrongly demonised. Sicilians are intensely conservative, minding their own business, keeping out of trouble. Terrified, in fact, with Sicily being the most conquered island on earth. Since ancient Rome, Sicilians became accustomed to ruthless foreign conquerors. That's why criminal networks readily dominate. Central / northern Italians have historically been more violent and deadly. Mussolini, for example, was from Emilia.

@@pierpaoloparisi2049 Veramente sei uno che si dimentica la Camorra e la Cosa Nostra e la violenza che c' e' nel Sud. You willfully neglect to mention the violence common to the outlaw bands of criminals in southern Italy, like the Mafia and Camorra.

@@lucianomezzetta4332Non difendo la Mafia. La Mafia e' il male piu' grande, di tutti quelli conosciuti. Parlo come figlio di messinesi, nato, e vissuto, sempre in Australia. Sicilia e' l'isola piu' conquistata in tutto il mondo. Sfruttata dai romani, vandali, normani, arabi, spagnoli, ecc. Queste ingiustizie erano il concime, avvelenato, che rese possibile la crescita maligna, della Mafia (come sistema di giustizia "privata" anti-statale). Soltanto Mussolini - usando metodi mafiosi - riusci a sopprimerla, provvisoriamente.

the real reasons behind these lynchings and that nobody says is that Italians took important positions in the economy things that the 'Americans' did not support there was therefore a lynching to organize

Im so glad to have you here:)

Race is not a Northern European thing. The first racial caste system was in Spanish colonies. The Anglo version was mostly exclusive to Protestant, English.

@@ryan7864 wrong. the first caste system was in Hindu India.

@@ryan7864 the idea of "race" though was not the pseudoscientific one we got in the 18/19th century , the "limpeza do sangre" wasn't the same thing as De Gobineau , Galton (not accidentally Darwin's cousin), Lapouge who created the paraedigma US and colonies adopted homo Europaeus - typical tall blond arian, Homo Alpinus darker and shorter and bottom tier Homo Mediterraneus, shorter and the darkest suspiciously close to Africa. I could go on with other "scientists" also US ones, but I set the scene. Icing on the cake, Hitler was a fan boy of all these people.

Point is Europe went around the world with that crap

Guys i mean this very technical and not judgmental. The value of a person is defined by his or her actions and not appearance. I think/hope we can all agree on that. Nevertheless it is clear that there is a difference in the appearance of northern and souther europeans. Northern europeans compared to southern europeans have a paler skin tone (even when tanned). In europe we just differentiate by saying norther or southern looking (some southern europeans have a nordic look as well because of lets say historical turmoil). Given that the american northeast cost was settled first by british dutch and germans the term white made sense. Later after the arrival of various other people the term white was widened for simplicity reasons in order to differentiate from asian or african americans. So it is not a made up concept because it is obvious that northern europeans are paler/ whiter than mediterrean europeans therefore the initial term was correct. The bureau of census made a simplifications that is now confusing but made actual sense at the time. It was just way more practical to widen the term white than to create several more categories. The overall concept in 2023 though is questionable, to put it mildly, because the USA is a true melting pot and it is probably not wise to define a population alongside racial criteria(in my humble opinion at least). But to be pale white is and was something northern europeans identified with just like southern europeans identify by being not so white.

So were literally anybody from poles to lebanese and japanes. It is the same to this day everybody with brighter skin is welcomed. #whitening the population When i (blonde, blue eyes, fit, 26 at the time) travelled there i could not complain😊

Yeah, this stuff happened. There's a whole chapter of American history about the killing of Italians in New Orleans, LA that happened in the mid-nineteenth century. For what it's worth, I'm English/German on my dad's side and southern Italian on my mom's. My maternal grandfather came over to this country in 1905 with his younger brother when they were 12 and 10. Didn't speak a word of English, but was fluent in the first year. Finished the 10th grade and then trained to be a barber. Was never out of work for the the entirety of the '20s, '30s, '40s, and '50s. Got married, had 5 kids, and bought a house, and survived the Great Depression. Was a WWI vet and pretty much a self-made man. Of course, his story was lived out in Hartford, CT, so it was a lot different than what was happening down south.

It still happens now to immigrants from South of the USA.

Also how many "white" people in the USA are Anglos? That is the name of a tribe that invaded Britain more than a thousand years ago.

​@@johnnyearp52probably no one the peope living today that are actual descendents of that tribe would have to be found on the east cost of england( middle part of it). But they managed to give their name to the land. England = Land of thr Angles

​@@peterharrison5833sounds like an immigration fairytale except that he had to return to europe for ww1

Italians ain't even totally out of the woods yet today. Look at how most representation of Italians in media is basically the mafia, even now. I think that for alot of white ethnics, it was possible to be mostly accepted in America but they never could be totally accepted, and alot of that tolerance is because of the fact that Italians Americans are 5% of Americans, they're not growing as a group and we aren't having a wave of Italians coming here. That nativist hate could come roaring back if thousands of people started coming here from Sicily again.

My dad is only 72 and as a black man he had to go to separate bathrooms and driking fountains Growing up in alabama..but America gets mad if we discuss this type of stuff for our knowledge. Im surprised alot of Italians hated blacks after going through similar things

​@@johnnieray2423 My parents aren't even in their 70s yet and went through that. Some of our schools including mine still had semi segregation in the 2000s. Yes the majority of immigrants who were discriminated against in turn showed that same hatred towards Black Americans.

@@johnnieray2423 I feel the same way when I got beef from Italians. But I must say I was a jock in South Jersey and had many ethnic friends and eat over their house so I was shielded from racial BS till I went to college. But my Italian friends did not claim to be white. They were Italian American but not white. Now I know why they took that stance.

@@johnnieray2423 nothing new, it's the poors war. Fight for the crumbles. See how many blacks in the US are now angry at migrants. Ask yourself who can afford the luxury of guilt and being the "saviour". Hint: affluent wasps. Btw I can't be 100℅ sure since I studied more properly the Euroafrican context , but blacks and Italians in the US also had likely the highest rate of "interracial" marriages.

So you’re okay with anti Portuguese discrimination because you perceive Portugal to be less tolerant and welcoming than Italy? Why do you assume this? It sounds like you don’t like the Portuguese very much.

So nice of you

Italians aren't dark skinned though.

@@idratherbeaphilthanajustin9533 some are 🤔 & it’s vilified like everywhere else

@@talesofthechrysalis Some have with Maghrebi ancestry have darker tone, but Italians per se are not dark skinned.

​@@idratherbeaphilthanajustin9533 "Dark" skin varies by who you ask. Medium looks dark to lighter people and light to darker people.

@@johnnyearp52 But I'm English and Sicilians to me are literally light skinned, with darker features such as hair, eyes etc as have many Mediterranean people.

Thank you so much! I love connecting with Italians and Sicilians from the south ☺️

@@nytn Absolutely 💯

@nytn My paternal grandfather is actually from White Plains, New York, and my Dad was born in White Plains as well, but he grew up in New Orleans from the age of 11 on. My paternal grandfather's name is Ralph Carmine Manganello, and my maternal grandfather's name is Anthony John Gambino, and he is from New Orleans. My paternal grandmother's name is Octavia Lauren Serpas. She is half Spanish with a little French mixed in from her father and half Sicilian from her mother, Rose Morgavi. So basically, part of my family is from New York, via Naples; and my mother's father's family is from New Orleans via Sicily; and my paternal great grandmother's family is from New Orleans via Sicily, so I am basically two-thirds Sicilian and one-third Neopolitan. My maternal grandmother from Mississippi was Catherine Clara Yarborough, and she is a quarter English, a quarter Irish, a quarter Swedish, and a quarter Spanish and French, with some Native American mixed in from the English side. My dad is Ralph Manganello, and my mother is Girolima Catherine Gambino, and my mom is from New Orleans. I hope I'm not rambling on too much, I just love genealogy, I find it fascinating!

@nytn Actually, I'm also 5% North African and Western Asian which pretty much covers the Middle East.

Franco Harris 😮

If racial identity is destructive, then by all means abolish affirmative action and preferential treatment of non-whites. If not, then you're just an anti-white hypocrite.

Northern Italians think they are German. Venetians forget that they were the Neapolitans of the Austrian Empire. Just like "capos" in the WWII NAZI camps: more brutal than the SS.

Yes and no. But race is a construct born the the European colonies. Europe really had no concept of this up until the 17th century

@@ryan7864 The idea was cooked up on both sides of the Atlantic. I agree with the timeline, but it was convenient for nations to discriminate against each other in Europe, how else could they convince ordinary people to go to war against each other otherwise. Discrimination was always the servant of power.

This is the evolution of the topic, one would need to look up all the pieces of the puzzle. Under the Hapsburg dynasty, Spain controlled the Netherlands, Italy, as well as the Americas. As Protestantism began to spread, it was used in opposition to Catholicism, in part, as a political tool, to break free from Spanish control. Books were printed making the Southern European a threat, not only along political and religious lines, but racial ones. And they took those ideas, in part, from the Iberians, since they had separated the Jews and Muslims from among them a century earlier, but they did so primarily due to religion and politics, not race. The Northern Europeans copied this purity of blood concept that already existed, and took it in a new direction. This concept was transferred to the Americas. And to add insult to injury, these Anglo Colonists saw how the Spanish, and Southern Europeans, married and lived among other groups, and how they allowed it legally, which was very different than their society. This stoked more bigotry. Though bigotry was found everywhere, in many ways, it was more rigid for the Colonists, as it even included fellow Europeans. And not just Southern Europeans, but the Irish, and many others.

Very interesting story during apartheid Asians were granted honorary white status so that was possible for him to go to White schools

Did you know that in South Africa during the apartheid era, Arabs and Japanese were regarded as white? The narrative was given by a Lebanese man who used to work with us in the Middle East, and it was a lengthy one. In essence, one Lebanese attorney filed a lawsuit for this.

@@LouisBattenberg-h8i Didn’t they have the ‘coloured’ category into which Asian, mixed, and other people who were not clearly regarded as white or black were put into? There were not always facilities for coloured people depending on there they were…

@@LouisBattenberg-h8iyap so was Tina Turner

As a northern european(swiss) i agree completely. I myself also had to come to the conclusion that ancient european society was basically created by southener europeans. However when overtime the northeners adapted some roman traits (especially the germanic tribe of the franks) in order to organize their society they become unstopable. They fought so long in the roman army that they realized that fighting in a collective as one is the key. No one was a match to them in terms of warfare the christanized germanic tribe were the best of the best. Other ethnicities simply refused to fight if they had no of their kind in their own ranks. Also dont forget the vikings they established trade routes from london to bagdad and discovered america from the north 500 years before columbus.

Treat people with dignity 😮 yeah that’s what america does 👨🏽‍🦯

thank you so much for adding to the conversation and being here!

that's a silly story, who thaught you that?

Opps now I see the link hope I did it right lol & no violence is never the answer

That is true.

He was from northern Italy. Either piemontese lombard or venetian.

Fight back.

I love that last sentence, I may have to borrow it. It sums up everything I feel …folks don’t need a handout, just a chance.

Never asked for hangout from anyone. I worked very hard for all I have. I don't live in America, but Canada, after reading all this, I don't think I would ever want to live there. I hope those people you abused can forgive you. One more thing, you're stuck with an Italian name. America. How do you like them apples 🍎😄. Go to church and ask the one up there to forgive you sincerely for all the crapp you dished out to a lot of people. History will my ever be kind to you. You get what you deserve.

thank you! When I say, I am learning in public I really mean it …☺️

Thank you so much for being here while I am learning in public :)

There is no definitiv italian culture. The language the food the customs varie regionally. There is an enormous local pride in italy. The italan state is still young and it will never overcome this regional differences(even the EU bureaucrats in brussels recognized that) It is not an italian phenomenon though every european country has its fait share of regional differences that are not easy to detect by outsiders. Only when the squadra azzuri plays italy is truly united.

@@tobiasphilippwittlinger8753 false all the way Italians have been united in many areas and not just football and nothing but football, every Italian is proud to represent his country. in other European countries the differences in some things are much more marked than in Italy,

⁠ tobiasphilippwittlinger8753 I'm Italian from Italy and between us only a few foreigners very often English speaking French or Germans often anti-Italians who think that... Italians and even the rest of the world don't think like that

@@tobiasphilippwittlinger8753 passing 80% all the countries of Europe Eastern Balkan countries Scandinavian Baltic countries like Finland and even Germany…. are younger than Italy, and of the world 90%…

@@antoniobuonanno7902 If you dont know your nation you probably no nothing! I am very sure that i have seen more of italy thn you have eventhough i am swiss. Also i obviously know more than you! The things i like about italians outweight the things that i dont by far. However you my friend belong to the cuckooland. 1 most northern europeans like the italians, it is no coincidence that every summer thousend choose to spend their holidays in italy. 2 italy as a nationstate is young and the unification was no easy task. ,,we have made Italy, now we must make italians,, massimo dazeglio 1860. 3 certainly regional pride exists everywhere in europe but in italy it is on another level. How long does the Lega Nord exists? I am sure you come from a place south of rome;)

I feel the exact same way about my grandpa!

Italians are the original Latini

Thanks for speaking the truth.

you're part of the problem

Of course you can vote as you see fit that is your given right but your logic seems too simplified. I am not even american but the american left is nothing but a joke. Times change there is a swiss documentary about an old swiss woman who married a first generation southern italian immigrant. She is like you does not give attention to the dynamic and votes left. The ex-immigrant(swiss citizen now) her husband said i think about my grand children that is why i vote for the party that once opposed me. Be smart;)

no political group is the answer 100%. The democrats started the KKK

@@nytnoh you’re one of those people that deny the southern strategy and the party switch. The Republican Party largely picked up all of the racist white voters through fears about forced bussing, states rights, and welfare queen stereotypes. The southern democrats may have started the KKK, but which party earns more support from the KKK and other aligned people today?

Thank you for responding, tell those anglos to learn a bit just a bit!! Of Italian history they cried when the Roman’s left the province of Britannia our ancestors taught them how to be civilized and organized but they seem to forget

Thank you for your interest in those poor immigrants who came from all over to look for a better life my father was one of those

​@@ortensiorusso4775do you expect those barbarians to remember? or that they admit it?!? you have too much faith in the savages of the north.

AVE SPQR!!!!

Dumb Americans don’t even know their country was named after an Italian

White and colored.

@@jimmyalfonda3536 It all depended on how many different variations of "colored" there was. If there was a large enough number of lighter skinned "non-whites" to support the idea of them having their own school (such as the Chinese in SF), then they had one. But in a neighborhood with just a handful of different "non-whites" that were NOT of African descent, they would usually send them to the same school as the rest of the "colored".

Race is no european concept or as european as asian or african. The europeans were just able to spread it from a european standpoint because the dominated warfare, trade and science for the last 300 years.

​@@miamijefe7793I'm of Mexican descent and we're still labeled as white by the census.

100% thank you. My dad’s parent from Spain migrated to Mexico during Francisco Franco dictatorship. My mom Native American with all heritage wiped out. I always considered Mexican. But no way. I am brown and embrace what my mom lost 💯.

Sicilians has Black blood from ancient times, due to their relations with ancient Black Africans..

@@etruscancivilization They're just olive because of the warmer climate they live in. Still white

@@noskpain2792 That's correct. I'm 1/4 Mexican. And on my mother's birth certificate, it says that my Mexican grandmother was caucasian.

I would love to go visit.

@nytn I highly recommend it! Eye opening, heartbreaking, and educating are how I would describe it.

wow I have never heard of it! I’ll save this comment for a future video

Here you go - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1909_Omaha_anti-Greek_riot

Yes! Thank you!

Also all of those people named Tolliver (originally Tagliaferro).

Dark skin is fashionable now, especially olive skin. I think olive skin is beautiful...

thank you!! I really need to learn Italian

@nytn my grandparents spoke dialects..I try to teach myself here and there especially w the music. It helps me look up words etc.

I have no idea what he would think about this. Maybe someone can get one of the videos trending so he sees it. Im actually curious, too.