Italian Chef Reacts to 1800' ITALIAN MACARONI from Rural America

Рет қаралды 38,983

Күн бұрын

It is super interesting to know how people ate pasta in the 1800s, and I have to say that this recipe is much better than some crappy recipes that we can find all over social media nowadays. 🤢
Always remember to keep it simple, and to use ingredients that are good for you. Simplicity is always the best choice and it is ALWAYS appreciated!
💯 Follow this link to read and print my Ancient Ragù Bolognese written recipe: www.vincenzosp...
#macaroni #reaction #reactionvideo
===============================================
📺SUBSCRIBE TO MY KZfaq CHANNEL (IT’S FREEEEEE ;-) bit.ly/Subscrib...
Join this channel to get access to perks:
/ @vincenzosplate
🕴Here is the link to Buy my Merch (and the No Pineapple on Pizza T-shirt): www.vincenzosp...
📖Share it with your FOODIE friends on FACEBOOK
🍝Check out my website to get more recipes vincenzosplate....
🌍Join my Small Group Private Italian Tour and discover the secret gems of Italy with me. Check out the itinerary and make sure you book asap (Only 10 spots available) www.vincenzosp...
📖LIKE Vincenzo’s Plate ON FACEBOOK / vincenzosplate
📷FOLLOW ME ON INSTAGRAM @vincenzosplate / vincenzosplate
💯 To purchase my t-shirts and more follow this link: www.vincenzosp...
✔LIKE, SHARE and COMMENT on my videos please. It really means a lot to me.
=========================================================
🎬 #VincenzosPlate is a KZfaq channel with a focus on cooking, determined to teach the world, one video recipe at a time that you don’t need to be a professional chef to impress friends, family and yourself with mouth-watering #ItalianFoodRecipes right out of your very own kitchen whilst having a laugh (and a glass of vino!).

Пікірлер: 470

@GlenAndFriendsCooking 10 ай бұрын

So when are you coming over for dinner Vincenzo?

@brentwork111 10 ай бұрын

I love your European accent Glen. Lol

@StereoTyp0 10 ай бұрын

You're a class act, Glen.

@vincenzosplate 10 ай бұрын

Hi Glen, I am about to go on the airplane. See you soon. I'll bring the wine

@mandroid51 10 ай бұрын

Just subscribed :) nice to see your channel! We’re practically neighbours btw

@robertmarsh8334 10 ай бұрын

I love to see people who make their own canned tomatoes and sauces made from home grown tomatoes. Looks like they really brought a lot of great flavors

@rand-san2095 10 ай бұрын

I watch a lot of Glen's videos. I rarely make the recipes that he shows. I just like learning about the history of food and cooking techniques from him.

@vincenzosplate 10 ай бұрын

I found his video entertaining, in fact I'm hoing to check out more of his recipes 😊🍝

@wingsabre 10 ай бұрын

Old English was simpler, and it makes looking at older cookbooks a bit harder. Milk were split into sweet and sour. A bunch of pasta shapes were all grouped together as macaroni. Things that were grain sized were all called corn like the grain sized salt used to make corned beef, which has no corn. A bunch of fruits were also called apple, like apple of paradise were bananas, and apple gourds were melons before they were given proper names. Some of the old naming were from French names as well.

@vincenzosplate 10 ай бұрын

That's so interesting! Thank you for sharing these fun facts! 😄

@DougDobbie-cy2cy 10 ай бұрын

You don't get it. Glenn is recreating old recipes not necessarily cooking what he would cook for himself

@lisapop5219 10 ай бұрын

You're missing the point of the old cookbook show. He makes recipes as written in old cookbooks. People used what they had even if it isn't authentic. Especially because we are talking about 1800s rural communities. I've been watching Glenn for years. Longer than I've watched Vincenzo

@AlneCraft 3 ай бұрын

"i don't know why people don't call pastas the proper names, maybe they are less cultured" local italian man discovers other languages exist outside of the italian pasta nomenclature, more at 11.

@Andinus3000 10 ай бұрын

The meat probably went first because they didn't have extra virgin olive oil and needed the fat from the meat in order to fry the onions.

@JoeStuffzAlt 10 ай бұрын

I like that Glenn explained the history and the details of the sauce, especially that it's an imported and possibly modified dish. Glenn and Friends is also one of my favorite channels I have the feeling that most kids and young adults have hardly any cooking training. I think it keeps people liking the Tiktok cooks.

@jesseprins4744 10 ай бұрын

Just put these five ingredients together, put it in the oven as-is and you have dinner! ... oops, forgot to say that what I actually put in the oven to get that beautiful dinner was not that beautifully arranged sheet tray of raw ingredients, but an ugly tray that took two hours before (and after) of good culinary technique and making it look good...

@vincenzosplate 10 ай бұрын

I also found his video informative and entertaining! Which of his other recipes would you recommend me to check? 😄

@JoeStuffzAlt 10 ай бұрын

@@vincenzosplate Pretty much anything. He did a study trying to find the original KFC. The spaghetti and meatballs recipe might be an interesting analysis. In fact, since he does old recipes, maybe a peek into the modifications that happened over time. They didn't seem to like it, but I wonder if it can be fixed

@jeanthobaben 10 ай бұрын

FYI, Glen is indeed Canadian but he collects cookbooks from all over North America!

@vincenzosplate 10 ай бұрын

Thank you for confirming that he's Canadian! 😄 I really enjoed this video and I'll make sure to check more of his recipes!🍝😋

@fnjesusfreak 9 ай бұрын

Yeah, he's from Toronto, isn't he?

@StereoTyp0 10 ай бұрын

Vincenzo seemed to miss the context of this being historical recipe. Glen is pretty good about explaining his choices but half of this video is Vincenzo jumping the gun.

@vincenzosplate 10 ай бұрын

I actually loved what Glen did so maybe u didnt watch the video

@StereoTyp0 10 ай бұрын

@@vincenzosplate I didn't say you didn't love it, maybe you didn't read my comment.

@Arucard.Hellsing 10 ай бұрын

Vincenzo, don't be hard with him, is just following the recipe from this time of period. And as far I know, they didn't have always Italian cheese the Italian in America, so they improvise with what they have. That goes for the whole recipe/recipes.

@anthonytriolo3643 10 ай бұрын

If you do not know the difference its called pasta lunga or pasta corta.

@vincenzosplate 10 ай бұрын

I don't think I was harsh on him, on the contrary, at the end of the video I said that I would eat his pasta 😁🍝

@Arucard.Hellsing 10 ай бұрын

@@vincenzosplate I know, I was writing it before the end....😁😁😁

@smsstuart 10 ай бұрын

Glen did do a good job with this "olde" recipe. As he knows what he's doing - it's merely a promise fulfilled. Thank you Vincenzo, for mentioning the use of salt in recipes. Too many chefs do seem to add it almost as a knee jerk reaction to cooking, rather than 'tasting and seasoning as you go', to prevent over-salting.

@vincenzosplate 10 ай бұрын

You're welcome❤ Stay tuned for more useful cooking tips😊

@mandroid51 10 ай бұрын

You’ve got my vote for best sauce “Vincenzo Sauce” I’ve since made your recipe Vincenzo and can validate its excellence! As for this recipe I think you need to “Vincenzo Plate” it in a video request :) Glenn is a fellow Canuck so I’ll check his channel out. Btw, my Dad’s mom has a long standing homemade Mac n cheese recipe which indeed uses bucatini (long macaroni) and the cheese we use is a healthy amount of extra old cheddar from St Albert’s 👍 thumbs up for Glenn’s 1800 recipe and your review! ❤ cheers!

@soniaschooling9762 10 ай бұрын

Brilliant advice ...

@Booxbred 10 ай бұрын

"It's Italian food, leave it alone. If it's American food, leave it alone." I wholeheartedly disagree. We wouldn't have so many amazing dishes if we always left things alone. Sometimes you need to change a recipe based off what you have access to. I'm sure there are dishes that are considered classically as an Italian dish but somewhere back in time, it started off somewhere else. Honestly, kind of a bad opinion to share imo. Also, to say that Americans have not made the dish any better, I certainly hope you've had your fair share of American mac n' cheese to say that so confidently as a blanket statement. All in all, I didn't enjoy your pretty narrow view on this reaction. Usually you are more chill if they preface saying it's not an authentic Italian recipe.

@AlneCraft 3 ай бұрын

"why are they making pasta in trinidad" just sent me 🤣🤣 bro think he the pasta police, the gnocchi gatekeeper, the macaroni mafioso.

@vincenzosplate 10 ай бұрын

Glen did a great job and I really loved how this pasta dish turned out. Would you eat it?

@GlenAndFriendsCooking 10 ай бұрын

Yes I would!

@cecilharris1196 10 ай бұрын

Yes I would, because it reminded me of baked ziti. My grandmother used to do that for us. It looks like bucotini but a little bigger but smaller than ziti. She did Also have the bechamel

@SeasonedCitizen 10 ай бұрын

If there's pasta involved, no matter the shape, I'll happily eat it! I subscribe to both of these channels and view on Sunday mornings with coffee. You and Glenn make Sunday mornings very pleasant, thank you.

@janenetz6848 10 ай бұрын

Yes definitely would!❤

@williamschubert7063 10 ай бұрын

Loved "Are they still around?" No, they're a spiral, but that is not important right now, :)

@BrianKelsay 8 ай бұрын

Glenn has a great channel with lots of interesting food history. Thank you Vincenzo for watching with us. It might be nice at the end to list the changes you would make to the methods or ingredients st the end as a final review and then a separate video where you make the dish with the changes.

@theleftpap 10 ай бұрын

Vincenzo, I love your reaction videos that speak to "real" Italian recipes. But if someone is showing a recipe for a contrived pasta dish, review it for what it is, NOT what is should be.

@vincenzosplate 10 ай бұрын

Thank you for the suggestion my friend! 😊

@myhouse74 10 ай бұрын

Growing up in the 60s with Italian immigrant grandparents, on both sides, who came to the US in the late 1800"s early 1900"everything was called macaroni or spaghetti. Sunday meals was always spaghetti. The word pasta was never used. Nowadays if you don't use the "correct terminology you are considered uneducated. Not so! It's just the times we live in now. I still call it all macaroni or spaghetti Or as my grandmothers used to say "macaron or spagett". Even though they came to the US in their early 20's the accent was always "broken English". Maraconi was always rinsed after cooking to get rid of the "old water starch". I used to spend hours "shaving" the parmesan cheese for them both and putting it in huge glass jars. The only macaroni and cheese I grew up with was mixing ricotta and mozzarella to macaroni topped with parmesan. The good old days.

@vincenzosplate 10 ай бұрын

Thank you for sharing those wonderful memories of your Italian immigrant grandparents and the food traditions from that time. It's fascinating to see how language and culinary terms evolve over generations. Your story highlights the enduring importance of family traditions and the love that goes into preparing and enjoying meals together. The "macaroni" and "spagett" of your childhood sound like they were made with a lot of care and tradition. Food has a way of connecting us to our heritage and the past. 🍝🧀🇮🇹❤️

@myhouse74 10 ай бұрын

I do so love your videos.

@nathanross5527 10 ай бұрын

I've been watching Glen for years, and he's just the best.

@vincenzosplate 10 ай бұрын

He's a great cook for sure! 😊

@TheCotzi 10 ай бұрын

you shoudnt forget italiens who came to america used what the had to make there dishes

@penguindrum264 5 ай бұрын

Vincenzo is either playing a character that is willingly ignorant or he's just that ignorant about the world.

@TheCotzi 5 ай бұрын

@@penguindrum264 onlyx original italien food is good and what he cooks until someone italien shows him what he is doing wrong then its ok like the bolognese sauce he cooked with oregano and suchs wrong things

@99nerka 10 ай бұрын

Had to google rotini and it suprised me that you said it is not popular or not eaten. It's one of more popular pastas here in Poland, it is called świderki (roughly translate to small drills).

@vincenzosplate 10 ай бұрын

Interesting, in Italy they’re not as popular as in Poland! Thank you for letting me know 🙏🏻

@alizcsodaorszagbol 10 ай бұрын

In Hungary rotini is very popular as well and it is called fusilli. Also macaroni here looks like the one Glen uses and the short macaroni we call szarvacska = small horn.

@99nerka 10 ай бұрын

@@alizcsodaorszagbol I think there is difference: fusili looks more like a spring, rotini looks like a drill.

@gfer66 10 ай бұрын

@@vincenzosplate Here in Argentina rotini are popular, we call them "tirabuzón" (corkscrew) and they're cooked with just butter, salt and pepper as a garnish for beef.

@pqrstsma2011 10 ай бұрын

9:20 in the US _fusili_ and _rotini_ are used for the same thing by different brands, and are still easily found in all supermarkets 13:00 _Emmental_ is the Swiss cheese, the one with the holes 🧀🧀

@vincenzosplate 10 ай бұрын

Thank you for taking time and explaining this to me! 😊

@fell5514 10 ай бұрын

Bro, people can make food from other people's cultures and adapt it however they want. That's how cuisine evolves. Calm it down.

@Pam-56 10 ай бұрын

If you watch Glen’s channel regularly you will know that he has lived around the world, like somewhere Asian,maybe Malaysia (can’t exactly remember) so he knows different cultural food. He has a fantastic collection of old cookbooks, some very rare, that he uses on his channel. He often talks about the kind of simple food his grandfather would eat (he was a rural farmer in Canada). I love watching both of you ❤️

@vincenzosplate 10 ай бұрын

Thank you my friend 🥰🥰

@povilzem 10 ай бұрын

In Lithuanian, the generic word for any pasta or noodles is "makaronai". "Pasta" is for brushing teeth ;D

@vincenzosplate 10 ай бұрын

Oh really!? That's so interesting! Thank you for sharing this fun fact with me! 😊

@SpuddySpud 10 ай бұрын

Plenty of times when Glen is following these old recipes he groans that they don't do things the way he would do it! For example, lots of recipes just involve chucking raw meat in with the sauce rather than browning it first, or putting the onions in after the meat and in this recipe. He follows them according to how they were written. Then he usually says at the end that it would work better with some Mexican spices 😀

@Default78334 10 ай бұрын

Part of the reason for putting the meat in before the onions is because the recipe isn't using oil, so your source of fat to cook the onions comes from what you render out of the meat.

@SpuddySpud 10 ай бұрын

@@Default78334 that's a good point. And I bet it would have come out a lot browner and drier had it been cooked all day on a wood stove. The burnt-on bits would be proper tasty 😋

@Alexois 10 ай бұрын

I think it's a bit wierd that Vincenzo don't understand that the recipe is from about 150 years ago. And also from the American countryside, so the obviously used whatever ingredients where locally available to them. And also what they themselves could make, like the stewed tomato's. It's not lika there where big supermarkets in rural America in the 1800eds 😅

@gwailouh01 10 ай бұрын

You are absolutely correct this is not Italian food. But this is definitely how I remember pasta being cooked when I was growing up in Canada. I grew up in areas with absolutely no Italian presence whatsoever so we had no idea what Italian food was. Can remember pasta water was not salted, no care was given to the order ingredients were browned in, spaghetti was broken in half before being put dry into the sauce to bake in the oven. Also, when we went to restaurants for Italian food, it was definitely Italian-American food. I watch Glen's channel and enjoy it. Not sure where you think he is speaking with a European accent as to my ear, his accent is fully Canadian. I have used your channel so much to up my game cooking Italian food. Give my thanks also to Johnny and Lucio as you 3 have helped me up my pizza game to levels I never thought possible.

@vincenzosplate 10 ай бұрын

You're welcome my friend❤️ I guess this is one of the many beautiful things that internet has brought to us, now without stepping a foot in Italy for ex, you can check how different italian dishes are made 😊🇮🇹

@Jen-iy7lq 10 ай бұрын

Thanks for featuring this video. I've been a Glen subscriber for a few years and had seen this video and learned something. I grew up in an Italian town that somehow picked up some of the off-brand Italian cuisine and myths that persist in the US and UK.

@vincenzosplate 10 ай бұрын

You're welcome my friend! Stay tuned for more videos like this one 😁🇮🇹

@mdrakic 10 ай бұрын

Actually, a very good video. He was trying to do as an authentic video as possible and he tried to follow the recipe, to the letter. I also think the fact that we have a 200 yr old recipe is very interesting. Hat's off!

@vincenzosplate 10 ай бұрын

I agree with you! It's mindblowing the fact that we have a 200 old recipe that still tastes delicious to this day 🤩😋

@mdrakic 10 ай бұрын

@@vincenzosplate it's just ultimate proof that the Italian cuisine survives for centuries 👌🏼

@Jm0417-s 6 ай бұрын

The thing you need to remember is that the recipe changed because it had to change. The ingredients weren’t available 200 years ago to make it the way that an italian would. You need to acknowledge that the USA is hundreds of times bigger than italy. Shipping certain imported ingredients to rural areas of the country was not an option. So recipes were adapted to make use of what was available. Olive trees do not grow here, but we have fat from beef and pork. Our native grapes aren’t good for fine wine, but we have grain to make spirits. It is using what you have access to. They didn’t change the recipes out of disrespect to the original, especially since it was impossible for them to have ever had the original. Most european recipes were brought over by immigrants or by wealthy people who traveled. If they wanted to make a recipe but did not have all of the correct ingredients, they improvised, or they starved. In the case of macaroni and cheese, we had cheese, but not the right cheese. It was good cheese and melted well, so we used it.

@beckycaughel7557 10 ай бұрын

I’m not sure but if it’s cookbooks said to cook the pasta for 20 to25 minutes I think we have to remember that they’re talking about using wood stoves and maybe it takes longer on that woodstove

@exclibrion 10 ай бұрын

When he mentions that the word for "macaroni" wasn't the same as it is now, I can say its true because of the language barriers people were naming stuff totaly wrong. In polish, pasta is being called "macaron" because macaroni was the first type of pasta that polish people brought to Poland - at least this is the story I've heard but there are more stories about it.

@robTCGZ 10 ай бұрын

In Spanish (well, in Costa Rica where I'm from), commonly with older People, they call all pasta "Macarrones". It's probably the same as in Poland, it was the first type of pasta and then the word just adapted to the language.

@TheCotzi 10 ай бұрын

even russian say macaron

@vincenzosplate 10 ай бұрын

It's interesting to learn fun facts about pasta all over the world! Thank you for sharing this with me! ❤️🇮🇹

@guytori9330 10 ай бұрын

I appreciate your videos Vincenzo. I’m learning a lot. My 2 fav KZfaqr are You and Chef Jean Pierre

@vincenzosplate 10 ай бұрын

Thank you so much for your support! 😄👨‍🍳 Chef Jean Pierre is fantastic too. Keep enjoying the culinary journey with us! 🍽️🎥

@JasonMohammed 10 ай бұрын

In Trinidad, we def use "macaroni" for everything lol! But I've long since been identifying different pastas. And I have to say I make at least one italian pasta dish a day from Vincenzo so it helps to know why different pasta is used especially with their sizes. Instead of mac n cheese I make, instead, cacio e pepe

@ancient1350 10 ай бұрын

Oh gosh! You would turn your back on macaroni pie just so? 😭🤣

@vincenzosplate 10 ай бұрын

I'm very happy to hear that you enjoy my recipes! Thank you for the trust and stay tuned for more delicious recipes to come😋🍝🇮🇹

@jancapiak381 10 ай бұрын

V.... For god sakes don't criticize every one for putting there twist on recipes ,1000 years ago ingredients were not available like this days , and it's ok to experiment

@orenmontgomery8250 10 ай бұрын

To be fair, that cheese didn't appear to be shredded in the bag. The stuff in the bag tends to be shorter, square-shaped shreds, and covered in anticoagulant powder. But, yes, he should've added about triple or more, in my opinion.

@vincenzosplate 10 ай бұрын

When it comes to cheese being generous is the only way to eat it! 😁🧀

@SwtTeaLdy 10 ай бұрын

"...and before you go full "Vincenzo's Plate" on me..." BAAHAHAHHAAAA...he's got your and your viewers number Vincenzo!

@009013M3 10 ай бұрын

If you watch a few historic cooking shows like Townsends, you'll observe that a lot of families didn't have access to cooking oils, especially not extra-virgin olive oil. THis was a time period where buying a few hundred pounds of salt so you could preserve the elk you shot yesterday was basically your protein for the month. CHeese was just whatever you could make with whatever rennet and salt you had so that you could preserve milk. The reason they start with the salt pork is because they need the oil from it to keep the beef from sticking, and the moisture from the beef keeps the onions from burning. Not ideal, but it's what we do while camping too when we forget to bring butter.

@Oscar-gq4ro 10 ай бұрын

Lots of Italian Americans still call all pasta macaroni. I remember going to Grandma Coco’s every Sunday for macaroni and meatballs

@vincenzosplate 10 ай бұрын

Ahaha true!

@ryanpatterson5123 8 ай бұрын

Vincenzo a great tip my grandmother taught me is if the pot is foaming like that you can keep it from boiling over by placing a wooden spoon across the top untill it cools enough to stop foaming. It keeps the foam from spilling out

@vincenzosplate 8 ай бұрын

Ah, what a fantastic tip from your Nonna! Grazie for sharing that wisdom. The wooden spoon trick is indeed a classic and effective way to prevent the pot from boiling over. Nonnas always have the best kitchen hacks!

@zacharyjones7001 10 ай бұрын

Vincenzo, I enjoyed seeing you react to an old historical recipe like this. I recommend you check out a few videos from Tasting History with Max Miller. He did a video on medieval English lasagna, and one or two about dishes that would have been made for the pope.

@vincenzosplate 10 ай бұрын

Thanks for the tip! 🍽️📚 Historical recipes are like time machines for your taste buds, right? I'll definitely check out Tasting History with Max Miller for some culinary time travel! 🕰️😄

@dondashall 10 ай бұрын

Max Miller actually did a video on the history of Mac & Cheese in the US as well and originally Kraft's recipe was made with proper ingredients as it was originally a smaller operation run by one guy (Kraft), but as time when on, the recipe (responding to various factors such as poverty, wartime rations for troops I think, etc.) the recipe became what it is today. Not a good thing (though the recipe he used was pretty interesting), but the story was fascinating.

@vincenzosplate 10 ай бұрын

Thank you so much for sharing these interesting facts with me! ❤️

@theleftpap 10 ай бұрын

Glen reproduces recipes from old US or Canadian cookbooks. ragging on him for not doing an Italian dish to today's standards is silly. Come on Francesco.

@sebastianortega1938 10 ай бұрын

Nobody is raging* in here. Did you even watch the full video?

@ushiwaka777 10 ай бұрын

@@sebastianortega1938 How about you look up a word you don't know (to rag, ragging) instead of hastily correcting someone

@sebastianortega1938 10 ай бұрын

@@ushiwaka777 Yeah, my argument stands, though. Nobody here is ragging about what Glen did. Again, just finish watching the video. Nice dodge, though 🙃

@ushiwaka777 10 ай бұрын

@@sebastianortega1938 I don’t think you’re qualified to judge who’s “ragging.” Go back to school lil bro 🤣🤣🤣

@sebastianortega1938 10 ай бұрын

@@ushiwaka777 ditto.

@Baubette 10 ай бұрын

Glen has a recipe for pasta alla genovese, one of the few found on youtube. I don't know how authentic it is but I like it and I think more people should talk about this dish.

@danielmiddleton8173 10 ай бұрын

Glen's bolognese recipe post is my go to. He seems to have researched the heck out of it. But like any recipe, opinions on the methodology vary.

@vincenzosplate 10 ай бұрын

I'll have to check that video now! Thank you for bringing it to my attention 😁❤️

@sharendonnelly7770 10 ай бұрын

What a great video! Glen, The Old Cookbook Show, being reviewed by Vincenzo! Two of my four favorite channels, the other two are Pasta Grammar and Pasta Grannies. Great reaction and review, Vincenzo. I have found that Glen is great at doing recipes that require perspective of the time they were popular. So glad you liked his "macaroni" and are going to try it.

@yadielsotomayor5015 10 ай бұрын

I find a lot of the comments regarding "autenthic" food very gatekeeping. Authentic to whom? To the people in america this was authentic. There are many variationsof a dish, and some are good, some are great, and some are terrible. But there is no authentic way.

@vincenzosplate 10 ай бұрын

Thank you for the kind words! I actually liked what he did, and I'm going to check more of his videos soon 😊🇮🇹

@fransbuijs808 10 ай бұрын

"Before you go all Vincenzo's Plate on me..." You're becoming like the Big Brother of Italian cuisine!😝

@vincenzosplate 10 ай бұрын

Hhahahaha that's a good one! But I think I was good with Glen, I didn't criticise him as much 😊

@garygemmell3488 10 ай бұрын

I am old enough to remember when pasta was referred to as macaroni here in the states. Over my lifetime pasta started to be called by whatever name a particular shape was known as in Italy. Today, the only pasta product that is still referred to as "macaroni" is the elbow variety. In my childhood, spaghetti was always called spaghetti while any other shape was generically known as macaroni. I sometimes think you get too hung up on what something is called rather than whether or not it is being used in an authentic way. I think you would agree that no recipe or authentic food survives 100% when introduced into a new culture. All you can really ask for is that the recipe be made as authentically as possible. Today, that is especially easy when nearly every ingredient is available in your local grocery store, specialty shop, or by direct shipping to your home. Remember, there was no FedEx, UPS, or Amazon available when Old World recipes were brought to the New World in the 1800's or earlier.

@vincenzosplate 10 ай бұрын

You bring up an excellent point about the evolution of food terminology and the adaptation of recipes in new cultural contexts. You're absolutely right that the authenticity of a dish is not solely determined by its name but by how faithfully it captures the essence of the original. Times have certainly changed with the availability of ingredients, making it easier to recreate authentic flavors. Food history is a fascinating journey! 🍝🌍👨‍🍳

@garygemmell3488 10 ай бұрын

@@vincenzosplate I agree completely. I live in Southern California and grew up with Mexican grandparents. The recipes I watched them both cook were, what I thought, the way Mexican food was supposed to be cooked. A couple of trips to Mexico as an adult and some time spent in Arizona and New Mexico showed how even "authentic" can change by just traveling a few hours down the road.

@soucianceeqdamrashti8175 10 ай бұрын

Hahah man @Vincezo, Glen is trying to copy a recipe from at least 100 year ago from some small town in the US and you are talking about using mozzarella cheese and olive oil. Not sure those were that prevalent in Ohio back in the day ;)

@60frederick 10 ай бұрын

Emmental cheese is a Swiss cheese. This cheese was not imported - only produced in the USA. A court has said that it is not important that it comes from Switzerland…. If you would like to buy the real Swiss Emmental cheese then you should buy Emmentaler cheese AOP. Thank you very much, Vincenzo, for sharing your reaction video with us.

@vincenzosplate 10 ай бұрын

Thank you Frederick for sharing this with us. Everyone should know. You are the swiss cheese ambassador

@johnkenny240 10 ай бұрын

I subscribe to Glen's channel. I love his simple approaches to learning how to make things. He has videos on how to make things like cheese, sausages, etc. He also likes to dabble with well known recipes like KFC and Olive Garden. He's fun to watch just like Vincenzo. Love the cross over here.

@vincenzosplate 10 ай бұрын

Thank you for the love🥰 I also snjoyed Glen's video and I will definitely check more of his recipes 😋🍝

@DanAuns 10 ай бұрын

You've missed the mark here Vin, Glen coookes verbatim from old cookbooks in this series on his channel, all of your feedback and advice is off base given the intention of these old cookbook series videos.

@Seallussus 10 ай бұрын

When words get out of their original context, culture and region for example, they can take a life of their own. A word might originally mean one specific thing but once adopted by others it can mean a different thing. This can happen to ALL languages and ALL words. I don't believe it's a matter of "uncultured" people. It's just that words can take different meanings in there is not a single language in Europe for example that did not change, have words from another language, have words change over time...etc.

@vincenzosplate 10 ай бұрын

You're absolutely right. Language is dynamic and constantly evolves, often incorporating words from other languages or acquiring new meanings over time. This process is a natural part of linguistic and cultural development and doesn't reflect a lack of culture or knowledge. It's a testament to the richness and adaptability of languages and their ability to reflect the diversity of human experiences. 🌍🗣️📚

@anacondagr7095 10 ай бұрын

In Greece this recipe but with bechamel on top we call it pastitsio (the cheese we use is feta cheese)

@vincenzosplate 10 ай бұрын

Ah, the Greek twist with bechamel and feta cheese makes it pastitsio, a delightful variation! 🇬🇷🧀 It's amazing how cuisines put their own unique stamp on dishes. Yum! 😋🍽️

@hansdampf4055 10 ай бұрын

Here nearby Munich, where I live, the shown noodles(Bucatini in Italian) are called "Makkaroni" at least the last 100 years. It's just a linguistic confusion. What is used as "Mac & Cheese" as a pasta base in the U.S. corresponds to "Cornetti" in this country.

@vincenzosplate 10 ай бұрын

Thank you for sharing these fun facts about your country! 😊

@roerd 10 ай бұрын

Yeah, the Italian brand Delverde even sells Bucatini as Maccheroni here in Germany.

@KezzaTianzun 10 ай бұрын

Another thing you need to do is to actually realise he is showing the techniques used 200 years ago, not now. So if he puts things in different orders, why complain, thats the way the cook book from 200 years ago says and he's showing us how they made it. If he puts it the order you say, then its not 200 years old method anymore so whats the point of his video?

@jerzyjablonski1432 10 ай бұрын

Thanks for pointing me to this video. I liked it, and your reaction too. Was curious later and checked my oldest polish cookbooks for pasta. Oldest one has no pasta dishes. Second oldest has one. You would looove it. Pasta cooked in boulion and broth, then mixed with yolks and cream and baked :D

@vincenzosplate 10 ай бұрын

You're welcome! 🍝😄 It's fascinating to explore old recipes. Pasta in broth with yolks and cream baked in - sounds decadently delicious! 😋🇵🇱

@39zack 10 ай бұрын

What you seem go never get (or you prestens just to not get it 😂) is that there is no such thing as American food, unless you go way back to native Americans. Modern America is all immegrants and mixed their cultures and food into "the new world", with what they had avaible.

@Johnny_Guitar 10 ай бұрын

*EXACTLY* Bravo, good to hear from someone *WHO KNOWS* the truth of it all !!!

@trevorcook3129 10 ай бұрын

Which at that stage becomes American food! American as apple pie which is English based on French!

@interpolagent9 9 ай бұрын

Vincenzo, I love your passion for good food. I cooked professionally for 40 years, but I still love Kraft Dinner. I will never tire of it. Could I make better? Probably. That's what I like about you. You offer sensible alternatives for the less exierenced, so you know I must try it. Cheers from Canada.

@eldorado1244 10 ай бұрын

My wife is Italian, we travel to italy once a year, the Italians do there own spin on classic American dishes, lm not that arrogant to tell them to leave the American dishes alone..but l see your not like that

@trevorcook3129 10 ай бұрын

I see you’re commenting without listening to the video. He said to keep things as they are and even mentioned US food.

@jenniferkapoian583 10 ай бұрын

I love Glen. Been watching him for years…even before you and Pasta Grammar. I commented on how much I love your channel when he referenced you in his video! So happy you reacted to it! Glen does an amazing job explaining the history behind most of the dishes. He makes, especially on his old cookbook show.

@vincenzosplate 10 ай бұрын

That's wonderful to hear! Glen from Pasta Grammar does indeed a fantastic job explaining the history and intricacies of Italian dishes. It's great that you've been a longtime fan of both channels, and it's always exciting when content creators appreciate each other's work. Food channels like his and yours bring the joy of cooking and cultural exploration to many. Keep up the great work! 🍝🇮🇹👨‍🍳😊

@tangoangel2782 10 ай бұрын

In Bulgaria most pasta is/was called macaroni, maybe besides the spaghetti. I think that is because the word pasta in Bulgarian language means basically cake, so they needed to replace it.

@vincenzosplate 10 ай бұрын

Wow that's a very interesting fact! Thank you for sharing it with me! ❤️

@MR-or6yv 9 ай бұрын

No one in the U.S. would call macaroni and cheese "Italian." (Tasting History has a nice video on the origins, I think.) That said, a lot of what Americans call "Italian" is actually food of the Italian American diaspora. And the food of the diaspora (any diaspora) will always be different in order to adjust to differing availabilities of ingredients, tools, and to cater to local tastes and preferences. The food of the diaspora is a cuisine unto itself. Even today, not every area has equal access to every ingredient (nor exposure to authentic options). And of course, as cultures mix, even the food of the diaspora is changed as it is adopted by people from other ethnic groups.

@PanamanianMan317 10 ай бұрын

When Italians immigrated to the New Continent, they adapted to the new environment and taught themselves and showed everybody new ways to make food. Take a look at this example: Cotoletta alla Milanese derived into the Milanesa in South America; it is especially popular in Argentina and Uruguay and is a staple in Argentine and Uruguayan restaurants around the world and you can choose what meat you'd like (veal, beef, chicken, pork, and even fish) and with any topings of your choice. Chicken parmigiana was born the same way in the US (though it borrows heavily from the parmigiana di melanzane too) and we can put the chuleta valluna (made from pork cutlet only) from Colombia in that list too. As for mac-and-cheese, I like both the original Italian pasta ai quattro formaggi and the British version, which derived from the Italian, as well as the Texas version. It's not that one is better than the other. They are different from each other. The British version came in first and then the Texas version. But all three are superior to the pre-packaged version from the store, that is for sure.

@vincenzosplate 10 ай бұрын

Absolutely, food evolves with time and place! 🍽️🌎 It's like a delicious cultural exchange program. From Cotoletta alla Milanese to Milanesa, Chicken Parmigiana to Chuleta Valluna, and even Mac-and-Cheese's worldwide journey 🇮🇹🇦🇷🇺🇸🌮. Each has its own tasty story! 🤩📖

@coolbruh6779 10 ай бұрын

Kraft really screwed up a lot of recipes because of how processed their products are. But honestly the overall recipe of mac & cheese hasnt gotten better or worse, but has a lot more variety when it comes to the creaminess or the amount of cheese or the meat/veggies that are in it, etc.

@vincenzosplate 10 ай бұрын

You make a good point! Mac & cheese recipes can vary widely, and many people enjoy experimenting with different ingredients and variations to suit their tastes. While processed products can be convenient, there's always room for creativity and customization in the kitchen. 🧀🍽️😊

@ExaltedDuck 10 ай бұрын

I've seen some of that guy's videos over the years. I like his soda recipe development and his historical perspectives.

@fuckedupbypiplup4460 10 ай бұрын

I dont agree with the "its Italian food leave it alone" if cuisines were left alone italian food would never have evolved into what it is now. You didnt have the tomato until the 16th century, which is a staple in many italian dishes. Now im not saying to go in and fuck it up and claim it authentic, but interpretation is fine.

@Zz_Mike-Hawk_zZ 10 ай бұрын

He is talking about the "fcking up" part.

@fuckedupbypiplup4460 10 ай бұрын

@Zz_Mike-Hawk_zZ no he isn't. He's talking about interpretations.

@trevorcook3129 10 ай бұрын

Preserved or jarred tomatoes, not canned if their is no can. America and the English language is extraordinary

@trevorcook3129 10 ай бұрын

Sorry Vincenzo, I should bring positivity not negativity

@vincenzosplate 10 ай бұрын

No problem 😂😂😂

@Pam-56 10 ай бұрын

Glen’s great. He’s Canadian like me 😊 He lives in Toronto

@michaelgourvitch5323 10 ай бұрын

I have to say, the idea of leaving certain kitchens alone stops innovation. Interpreting food is good because nothing is ever perfect. Perfection isnt unique, perfection is boring. You should also remember that in old times, the people cooking these dishes were migrants, migrants who brought a certain understanding of food without the ressources or ingredients to recreate it. They had to interpret and change up ideas, mix different countries cuisines or even innovate completely. You cant say "use this pasta" or "use passata" because these ingredients simply didnt exist in America before globalization. Think about it, you can only enjoy Italian food in Australia because of globalization, its a modern concept, so ironically its pretty untraditional for many people.

@Marrio49 8 ай бұрын

Informative video Vin. 👍

@markbugeja2941 10 ай бұрын

It's very similar to a recipe we have in Malta. Traditionally we have two versions timpana which is very similar to timpano or timballa and "imqarun Il forn" which literally translates to oven cooked macaroni or macaroni al forno. The sauce is surprisingly similar we obviously cook the softritto before and use the macaroni shape pasta. For timpana we typically use taglioni or penne rigatte but any large format penne shape pasta will do.

@vincenzosplate 10 ай бұрын

Mmm, the culinary world is full of delicious similarities! 😋 Timpana and "imqarun Il forn" sound delightful, and it's fascinating how they share similarities with other Italian dishes. Food brings cultures together! 🍝🌍🇲🇹

@markbugeja2941 10 ай бұрын

@@vincenzosplate well to be honest in Malta's case Italy is our nearest neighbour and we share a lot of cultural similarities with Italians. Most maltese also speak italian.

@Naplesfrank154 10 ай бұрын

Salute Enzo, ha detto che la ricetta proveniva dal libro di cucina Buckeye. Buckeye (un albero di noci) viene dall’Ohio, quindi questa ricetta nel libro di cucina Buckeye deve provenire dall’Ohio. Oh, ha appena menzionato l’Ohio.

@gregmuon 10 ай бұрын

The baked bucatini makes this reminiscent of Greek pastitsio. I'd actually guess this is an antique bastardization of that Greek dish, and not an Italian one. "Macaroni" was pretty important in American history. That's why there's a famous song about the dandies who ate it.

@vincenzosplate 10 ай бұрын

Now that I read this I think it makes sense! It's closer to the Greek Pastitsio!! 😊🇬🇷

@eirrenia 10 ай бұрын

Hate to break it to you, but the “macaroni” the song refers to was an overly elaborate fashion/life style of the time, not the food. The whole song actually originated as a mockery of comparatively unsophisticated americans, but it backfired. “Stuck a feather in his cap and called it macaroni.” This was a sneer indicating their supposed ignorance and crudity, that they had no understanding of fashion. Look it up sometime, it’s interesting reading.

@gregmuon 10 ай бұрын

@@eirrenia Yeah, I know what it means, I just didn't want to put a whole history comment into a youtube comment... The _macaroni_ were originally called that because they ate the trendy hipster food of the time, macaroni. Yankee puts a feather in his cap and thinks he's fashionable. Ha ha...

@eirrenia 10 ай бұрын

@@gregmuon Cool. 👍

@eduardofcgo 10 ай бұрын

I love Glens videos!

@vincenzosplate 10 ай бұрын

Glen's videos are like a culinary adventure, aren't they? 🌍🍽️ It's awesome that you're enjoying them! Keep savoring those delicious moments! 👏😄

@alexbennettbenefit366 10 ай бұрын

Love the reacting video vincenzo love your content your a amazing KZfaqr I love watching your videos they are the greatest and the best and the coolest your content is the greatest and the best and the coolest it always brings a smile to my face watching your content your a amazing and fantastic cook vincenzo

@vincenzosplate 10 ай бұрын

Thank you so much for the lovely words my friend! Stay tined for more content like this❤️🇮🇹

@drzlecuti 10 ай бұрын

When the kids were small I'd make a mac & cheese this way: butter melted, flour shaken in, milk added and whisked til hot and bubbly, i.e., a white sauce, then parm or pecorino romano. 10 minutes. Glen's accent isn't European--it's Canadian (at least to my Chicago ears). The tipoff is usually the pronunciation of "ou" in words like "about"; e.g., "aboot."

@vincenzosplate 10 ай бұрын

Your homemade mac & cheese method sounds delicious and comforting! 😋 And thank you for the observation about Glen's accent; accents can certainly be regionally distinctive, and it's interesting to pick up on those nuances in pronunciation. 🧀🌍🗣️

@fnjesusfreak 9 ай бұрын

It's a Canadian accent, yes. I live on the Canadian border. Canadian English is fairly close to an American trying to speak British English.

@danielrioux6410 10 ай бұрын

Yup. Glen lives here in Toronto and makes all his videos in his studio kitchen. He has many interesting videos!

@vincenzosplate 10 ай бұрын

Good to know! Thank you my friend

@lenalyles2712 10 ай бұрын

I watch Glenn and I also collected old cookbooks before we down sized. Sometimes those old books are more suggestions than actual recipes.

@KezzaTianzun 10 ай бұрын

What you need to understand is that the people who immigrated, maybe they forgot the method to make the right cheeses, so they made their own cheeses and they were different. So you have different recipe.

@catassia8630 10 ай бұрын

I love the way hés telling us the story from all the beginning 🥰 he’s so passionate

@vincenzosplate 10 ай бұрын

I love the passion he puts in his stories! 😁

@blanchetv 10 ай бұрын

Love your video, Vincenzo, especially your tip about the color and the pasta- I had no idea! The Trinidad pasta got me 😂

@vincenzosplate 10 ай бұрын

You're welcome dear! Stay tuned for more cooking tips 😊🇮🇹

@vincenzosplate 10 ай бұрын

How was the event over the weekend? Cant wait to cook with you one day

@blanchetv 10 ай бұрын

Will do! In the meantime I am hunting for a small cannoli LOL@@vincenzosplate

@fishstix4209 10 ай бұрын

The recipe could have been passed down by an immigrant from what is now known as Italy before Italy unified or was recognized by the rest of the world as a country. But coming from that area they wouldnt really distinguish between the states that would later become italy while at ellis Island they just lumped them as "Italians". So technically, the usa had unified Italian food before italy even unified. History is fun sometimes.

@vincenzosplate 10 ай бұрын

You're absolutely right, and that's a fascinating historical perspective! Many Italian immigrants to the United States came from regions that would later become part of Italy after unification, and their culinary traditions were already diverse and rich. In the melting pot of America, these regional Italian cuisines blended and contributed to what we now recognize as Italian-American cuisine. It's a testament to how food and culture evolve and adapt in new environments. History indeed has its delightful twists and turns! 🇮🇹🍝🇺🇸🌍😄

@anthonyreginato4350 10 ай бұрын

When I was a kid macaroni, was generic for dried pasta . We had a few macaroni factories in our neighborhood in San Francisco

@trickydick6152 10 ай бұрын

No, Vicie'. Hai sbagliato sui maccheroni. Leggi l'articolo su Wikipedia . C'è un significato internazionale della parola ed uno diverso, da regione a regione, da noi.

@sintoxic 10 ай бұрын

I´m sorry but: "Pasta is not from your country, leave it alone!" is one of the worst cooking advices I have ever heard, Vincenzo. Cooking and food is culture to be shared world-wide and mixed/developed to find new and exciting things! I would never tell you "Don´t cook a german recipe, it´s not from your country"....

@J_Stez 9 ай бұрын

Recepy: ANY grated Italian cheese Me: *starts grating mascarpone*

@rashomon351 10 ай бұрын

I'm from Germany, and quite "old" (Go, 1965 ! :) In my childhood - the 70's and early 80s - the Maccheroni my mom cooked - or "Makkaroni" in german - were like spaghetti with a hole in them. I now am learning that the

@parsifal6094 10 ай бұрын

I don't get you Vincenzo. There is no wrong in taking any recipe and changing it as you need, as long as you don't present it later as the original. Secondly, Italian has different names for different pasta types, because it's the homeland of pasta But there are other countries that call all the pasta maccaroni. That's simply the word they are using. No need to take it personally.

@shadowdestroyer88 10 ай бұрын

Do you still have your restaurant in Sydney? I really want to try authentic Italian in Australia!

@john2k24 10 ай бұрын

Glen and Friends is a great channel!! Cooks a huge variety of recipes and the old cook book recipes are always interesting 😅

@randyladiski3743 10 ай бұрын

My wife and I love your videos, but I have a respectful critique. You said, "Why make an American interpretation? Just make the Italian version." That's tantamount to saying "Why speak Italian, just speak Latin." Just because a recipe is changed or evolved based on availability of ingredients or other factors, does not mean it is intended to be offensive to the culture that developed the recipe in its original form.

@vincenzosplate 10 ай бұрын

Thank you both for your support and feedback! 🙏 You're absolutely right; culinary evolution doesn't diminish the cultural significance of a dish. It's all about celebrating the rich tapestry of food history! 🍽️🌍😊

@Gilly-bean 10 ай бұрын

4 formaggi is Queen when it comes to mixing pasta with cheese. My mind won't be changed. In turkish we call pasta "makarna" and whatever the shape we'll call it makarna, except tortellini and spaghetti. At least that's what they did until I moved in 2008 :)) Unless it's the turkish version of pasta, then it's called erişte ( which means noodle) about 2 cms long 0,5 cm wide flat pasta made often with flour and egg. In our house this would be called lazy lady's lasagna.

@possumm1702 10 ай бұрын

He is actually Canadian

@vincenzosplate 10 ай бұрын

Thanks for sharing!

@sebastianortega1938 10 ай бұрын

I was not prepared for the start of the video. Now I really want a cannolo 😂 Awesome video, as usual, Vincenzo!

@vincenzosplate 10 ай бұрын

Thank you my friend! Stay tuned for more interesting content to come 🥰🇮🇹

@noneofubusiness3150 10 ай бұрын

Cannoli is my favorite, and I had to learn to make my own as I now live in Cuban Haiti he'll south Florida.Doris market is ok but no body out side of Chicago make Barese sausages. I watch you every day to relearn my heritage

@gohabs9 10 ай бұрын

Too little salt is not good for us, too much salt is not good for us. But salt is essential for our bodies, dont be hating on salt, its not 'bad'.

@MrTitan2013 10 ай бұрын

I want to see you make your version of this.

@annemiekeblondeel6617 9 ай бұрын

You misinterpret. Oinions and meat would go in simultaneously. No olive oil available in those days. Even in the UK olive oil was only available in tiny bottles from the chemist until the late 1960s - early 1970s. Certainly not something you would cook with! 😂

@Azriel261 6 ай бұрын

I actually prepare Mac and Cheese the old way when my family can actually get the ingredients lol. But if all we have is Kraft, then I don't even add milk and butter. I just add pasta water until everything gets creamy and some salt and pepper if needed.

@laxur1312 10 ай бұрын

Interesting. They went from macaroni to noodles as the generic way to refer to pasta.

@vincenzosplate 10 ай бұрын

🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

@thevictoryoverhimself7298 9 ай бұрын

This was exotic ethnic food at the time lol, even up until the 1950s. I can taste this recipe from my (Irish-American) grandmother like it was yesterday. Very american.

@Traderjoe 10 ай бұрын

Sorry chef, but your commentary is kind of obnoxious. Consider the era that this recipe is from. He is making a historical recipe from an earlier time, when the average person had less access to modern ingredients and techniques. Not everyone who does what you do is a competitor who needs to be dressed down to. Glen is a great guy!

@amandabaker4678 6 ай бұрын

Thank you, it's amazing how many people in this comment do not seem to get this!