You should do france next

That makes me feel better xD

That makes sense!

Damn! That would’ve been good :(

@@Aldrahill Remember to check for circles under the unit symbol boxes, as older Unit symbols symbolised motorization differently compared to todays NATO symbols.

Yeah, like in the Germany video. Two wheels means motorized, one wheel and an oval (track) means mechanized

Past 43 he should have used the RSI army as they were in the axis side, they had a lot of german equipment and decided to copy them by getting their shit together and using the german style of waffen ss divisions (they were smaller than the standard ones but still effective)

2 light and 2 heavy machine guns in the MC 202; so, I don't know who did the pre-sets.

I didn’t even mean to :( accidental history failure :(

@@Aldrahill average italy

Dont forget your paratroopers, your crazy ass cav, funny undetwater men and the Berseglieri

At least you did better than the French

Oh man I never got to make bicycle troops! I’m so dumb!

Appreciate your input! I’m going do an ask on the next one and poll people’s responses :)

I’m tempted to do a world conquest when I do the USA as a celebration of 20k… whatcha think?

@@Aldrahill Only Historical Presets?

@@Aldrahill Communist US is the second easiest world conquest in the game behind fascist britain. Would be awesome to see!

​@@AldrahillCongrats on 20K, you're doing great imo! Liking these series very much. (not seeing you suffer with templates or something at all)

I actually already did a communist USA run recently! Go check it out if you like :) not sure what path I’d do in the event of a WC though… the standard fascist one seems to make the most sense!

Oooo that would’ve been cool! I really struggled to find actual cavalry divisions, so I just stuck with tanks

@@Aldrahill i had a document of the entire italian divisions while searching about their small arms but i lost it, you can find another one in this article of wikipedia en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1st_Cavalry_Division_%22Eugenio_di_Savoia%22 in the first link they give in references, you can also go to this list en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Italian_divisions_in_World_War_II Most of them have the same references, i know that working with wikipedia is sometimes hard or just confusing, but this one is very detailed The italian army had bycicle battalions too and had some anti partisan units (occupation), they also divided their divisions in "african type" and "metropolitan" type, and even by role,like some of the yugoslavian infantry divisions who had most of their amored cars (instead of bycicles) in anti partisan roles after the end of the invasion (you could use amored car recon insted of the MP bc they had this role too, italians had a lot of armored cars) some italian fortress or costal divisions would be a very good stop gap in the allied invasions and north africa and give more numbers bc of their low cost Italy had some panthers and panzer ivs after early 43 and they made a tank called "P43" who never saw past the prototype stage, their prototypes would have been in use in the newrly reorganized "Ariete" Division, the P6 had begun production but they never finish more than 5 bc of the armistice, the ones they did manage to get done, got destroyed by their own builders bc of the german occupation, only 2 had survived the war You can also have a better modification to most planes in the italian arsenal, as they had a lot of "subtypes" of the same plane having a similar classification, like a MC200 having a "A" (had a radio) and "A/40" (had a radio, new avionics and bomb locks) after the name to say "hey, this can also use bombs" but i think you challenge does not take this into account (would be cool too), better luck next time and i hope you channel grows, you did very well in the soviet front

They had 5 Cav Regiments at the start.

@@mikhailiagacesa3406 in 1936, italy had 3 cavalry divisions in 1940 when they mobilized their army and then entered the war, the third division was sent to ussr and was mostly destroyed by the end of 1942, the first and second were both disarmed by the german army, the Second was mostly used in Occupation but served pretty well, with very few losses and without the need to use ustasha or waffen ss "tactics", the first one was stationed in italy waiting for artilhery pieces when the germans invaded them

Thank you so much! And yes, agreed! The next one is Japan, but it might not be out until next week as I’ve hurt my wrist, slowing me down :P so glad you’re enjoying it!

Agreed. However It's offically not a Patton, and was in service in the 60's.

Thank you! And I can’t believe the amazing response people have had to this series, I’m so glad so many people are enjoying it :)

Not to mention all of the test games… oh the pain :(

Actually🤓 you can blitzkieg ethiopia in about 70 day and the normal peace conference will just appear and u can annex them and then form italian east africa Here how i do that: Speed 3 Put all air force in eritrea and somalia to cover entire of ethiopia and do cas mission only (you dont need fighter ethiopia dont have a plane anyway) Disband all mainland italy cav regiment to get some gun(you can disband more low exp div if you on a deficit of equipment) Put all army at the eritrea front(24 div)and somalia front(all div left)(tank at somalia and mountaineer at eritrea) (mainland div will arrive in about 20 day) Use aggressively battle plans(u should pick carlo vecchiarelli for eritrea front because his mountaineer trait)(you should do some micro to make sure ur div always on attack) When christmas offensive event pop up choose by any means nessesary 🤓👍

But the Libyan puppet makes restoring the Roman Empire super annoying with the autonomy system

Not that annoying imho, just build infrastructure, ports

@@ukaszk.6590 yeah but as Italy you need every civ you can get, it’s honestly better to just keep Libya as it barely has any resistance and with like 4 forts it’s super easy to defend

@@yumsuc7069 there is almost nothing there, i dont think its necessary, protecting it is more expensive tbh

Yeah the focuses are better, but I was just working from the challenge I set myself :P

not only tanks but also planes. C-200 never had 4 light MGs, it had 2 12.7mm. C-202 had 2 12.7mm and either 2 7.62mm or 2 20mm.

@@ussindianapolis487 yeah. The plane designs are generic. They just have custom names.

imo the M11 is fine, as it was as basic as it got for the italian medium tanks (and with a model year of /39, does fit with the 1938 m tank tech), the question is more why the 1940 m tank is the M16 over the M13 or M14?

I was wondering if the other nations had historical focus tech, Most of it turned out to be naval (H-class, Vanguard, Richelieu, Joffre, Yamato)

Imagine trying to find divisions organisation for them though!

@@Aldrahill Good luck learning Chinese or Japanese

You could use data on the Kwantung Army for Manchuria

That’s a perfect get-out, I love it :D

@@Aldrahill It's likely why Paradox hasn't bothered to add the tanks given from focuses into the preset tab as duplicates.

Thank you so much! I’m definitely going to - sadly this one is doing considerably worse than my previous entries, but I’ll keep going regardless :) I have a lot of fun researching and preparing it all, so I’m happy

Thank you so much! appreciate the suggestion, those countries would be awesome! All depends if I could find data though :P

@@Aldrahill then may you have the best of luck in finding literally *anything* that may or may not help

Yes this would’ve been a good idea! However, didn’t feel in keeping with the historical fee of everything you know?

Wonder why they rejected it, considering it was historical focused!

​@@Aldrahillwait, what? Paradox, please explain it😂.

@@Aldrahill Happed to me multiple times as well. I had to manually put Hungary to historical-facist in the game rules to avoid this..

Super annoying!

Much pain :(

Some fuzzing sadly occurs during endless hours of research xD

@@Aldrahill I'm not judging you, I liked the video, I'm just telling you what you could put or correct, you can also easily look at the various divisions on Wikipedia and what we had, even if there wasn't a scheme, it's something you could do also in the next video of this kind

Fair enough!

Oh damn thank you buddy! Next one comes out next Friday :)

True, but the challenge started trying to explore the IDEA of the presets, so I'm happy to keep thme in, even if it is a bit weird

Yeah it can be a bit more relaxing a way to play, allowing big boy Germany to take the reins :D

@@Aldrahill That's exactly what I did. I tried playing USA a few times and failed by 1941 usually because I had no clue how to use any of the games systems. But having big brother Germany look out for me while I take over Africa and blow up the Suez for them was much better for me to learn. If I could make the dash for Cairo early enough and not get rolled by France, I could do enough for them. Then bleed the allies on the southern front. While Germany often gave me units. While I played as Spain they often asked me for manpower when I was really low but it would usually be okay in the end. I still can barely ever do a proper Sealion to knock out the UK. Oh snap try a scenario I always lost, Install the Mobile Suit Gundam One Year War mod and win as The Principality of Zeon in the last 3 months of the war, when the TV show starts. It is supposed to be unbeatable. But there is a whole series of games that were never ported to English called Ghiren's Ambition where you get to try to change the outcome of the war. They started on the Sega Saturn and keep coming out on the PS4. Japan always ignores american fans lol. The mod is good. All the units are replaced with giant mechs.

Yeahhhh thank you so much! Now I gotta do a world conquest soon xD

@@Aldrahilllmaoo yea. i saw you put a comment about doing historical divisions and presets for the us? you try some smaller country that would probably be more of a challenge like poland or the netherlands and try to hold with their divisions. i know poland actually did have a few divisions after they were annexed to germany and the ussr

Preach I’ve been loving GBP since like 2018

@@seamusslymon4691 Yeah, it used to give you +50% planning, then was nerfed to just +20% and then bumped up to +30% and given some very small bonuses here and there like the 'coordination' or the command power bonuses, and the best officer corps bonuses out of four (though that's mostly because the bonuses from other 3 doctrines just fing suck, not because the ones given to GBP are very strong), but everything else stayed the same since launch in 2016.(except for the nerf to org bonuses as a whole that happened very early into the game, but if everyone loses 15 org, nobody does), but only now do people wake up and realise that 'Holy shit this doctrine is actually very good'... I just looked up on wiki and found out that GBP got even more nerfed than I thought- the Night Attack bonus from the Right Path was nerfed from +50% to +25% but oh yeah, NOW it's no longer a meme doctrine.

Agree completely! It's always been strong, but other doctrines were just a touch stronger before they were nerfed over the years.

@@Aldrahill Not really though? Like, Mobile Warfare has only got very minor, you might as well call them cosmetic, changes over the years- without counting the fact that all 4 doctrines had to be changed as the mechanics changed (like adding the brigade size limit, command power, coordination, armoured cars etc.) the core of that doctrine is The Same as it was in 2016- all the bonuses are where they used to be, and they're as big as they used to be, at least as long as you don't go into the tank-variants, which did get nerfed- the +60% breakthrough used to work on all tank variants, now it's only for tanks, other tank variants only get +20% but that's not really a big change in >99.5% cases. Mass Assault was only ever buffed, I think it was so weak it didn't even get the Org nerf that happened in or somewhere around the release of "Together for Victory". What was nerfed, and hard, was specifically Superior firepower, especially the soft attack bonuses, but even so, those nerfs came at the same time when GBP's planning bonus was nerfed, so to again paraphrase Syndrome, "if both "soft attack doctrines" get nerfed by roughly equal amounts, neither is". The SFP nerfs were much more necessary for the Mobile Warfare and Mass Assault to be viable options, than they were for GBP. The math has always been, since 2016 to 2023- if there are 2 otherwise equal armies, one with SFP, the other one with GBP, and they both have full *whatever their max planning is,* the GBP will have a bit more soft attack, much more hard attack, and A LOT MORE breakthrough/defence at the start, and at any given point during a fight, until the GBP units have less planning than what is given to them by the doctrine- ie. a 30% planning SFP will have less stats than a 60% GBP, same with 20% SFP vs 50% planning GBP, and 10% SFP vs 40% GBP and 0% planning SFP vs 30% GBP, it's only once you start to dip below that 30% planning overhead when SFP has any chance of getting better stats... at least in terms of soft attack, because hard attack is equal and GBP has flat +20% breakthrough on their entire army so on that part, GBP-army will always be better than SFP even without planning (awhich also gives more of it, effectively GBP gives +56% breakthrough on their entire army, with full planning)

I google it mostly :P find a few books online but mostly it’s second hand research. Look through the comments here as I believe I shared a few links to some places I got my research. Can’t share it atm as I’m not at my computer

Right?!This killed me Currently deciding betwee Japan & Uk right now for the next one, so let's see! :D

Super weird, right! Thanks for your input, it was very confusing when it happened :P

Most came from this site: www.niehorster.org but a lot was just ENDless research xD I hope it helped! :)

​@@Aldrahillwhy ain't you motorizing your army like it takes 3 factory on truck to motorize entire army whole game

Because Italy didn’t motorize their army due to lack of fuel and rubber :)

@@Aldrahill ok thanks

Exactly xD it was just a MESS

It's not like Italy was doing any better before Fascism, so I can understand such a thought. But last time it did not go well, so it still is a stupid idea

Honestly yes. Just like how it’s amazing Germany defeated France tbh

Apparently Mussolini wasn't expecting the war to happen so soon so everything within the italian military was hastily mobilized and they didn't have the industry yet to support a global war so that's why they weren't too effective

Coming very soon! Next up is Japan :)

it's not historically accurate, though. The soviets were quick to relocate their industry into Ural mountains so the more Germans pushed the shorter Soviet supply lines became and easier it was to re-equip and give ammunition for their troops would be.

A good point! I’m going to ask everyone what they think in the next video and make a decision from there re: focus granted presets or not :)

Yea I'm starting to think so to - I'm going to ask for people's opinions in the next video (which is Japan! delayed until next Friday) about what they prefer :)

I usually do! I just had fewer troops in this one, so made more targeted frontlines :)

That will be such a Pain that even he wont do that...

I CAN and I WILL.

Probably not next, but it's coming!

The challenge originally began solely to use the presets to test them out - it definitely makes for some weirdness but I like the additional intrigue it gives to every video :) apologies if you don’t enjoy it though!

@@Aldrahill I know. I've been following the series since the Germany video, however a lot of templates are missing from the preset tab because they are included in certain focuses.

True, but it’s tricky to find a good middle ground xD

Thank you! I'm hoping people continue to enjoy it, as there's LOADS of countries I'm looking forward to trying this with :)

Damn thanks! I think! Trying to keep a consistent style with these thumbs, I hope it works!

Not yet! A good idea though :)

I know right?! It was honestly hard to get good data

OH GOD Actually doing a Japan version at the minute, but it’s likely going to be delayed until next Friday as I’ve hurt my wrist, slowing me down :(

@@Aldrahill Nothing is worse than pulling your wrists. Hope you get better soon, mate.

Thanks buddy I appreciate that :)

If only this one was sponsored by Warthunder xD

Thanks buddy

Yeah I agree, it’s definitely super weird - it’s not even that the player does anything ahistorical, I can play totally historically and weird shit still happens :P

@@Aldrahill My recent games have also seen Sweden joining the Allies about as often as Italy losing in Ethiopia. I think the only things that are hardcoded 100% at this point are Marco Polo Bridge, the Munich Conference, Albanian Occupation, and Danzig or War.

Makes sense! But there were so many of them it seemed :P

To be fair MP units in actual real life divisions are a lot more useful than in hoi4 They help a lot with maintaining the speed of movement in attacks and allow for a lot of other useful things

Thank you buddy, that's super kind of you! Pleae feel free to post anything you can find in the Discord! I'll likely be redoing this in BlackIce at some point :)

Weirdly they did though! Pz3 and 4 are presets, even though they come from focuses :)

I somewhat agree, it's just that using the presets was the central thesis of the channel itself, you know? It also adds this sort of... bonus layer to it, if you know what I mean? It's an extra little thing, assessing the historical accuracy of the game as it exists now. I'm going to ask people's opinion in the next one though :)

@@Aldrahill Nah I get it, but if you're going through the effort (and pain) to only use the historical design in the division template, (which I love as a concept and I've since tried it in my own playthroughs) why not design the tanks and planes with the historical design as well. We all know the Paradox presets and designs are most of the time not accurate, so it kinda defeats the premise of using the historical division template, when the equipment in them isn't historical. That's just my thinking. Keep the videos coming man.

Ooo as which country? :)

And I love you, friendly commentor!

Hard to find data but it could certainly be fun!

@@Aldrahill im from Finland i i know kinda much from Finnish army. If you want i can give some links for you

Definitely, do it!

Definitely, do it!

youtube dont like me :D i cant link it for you ;D do you have discord?@@Aldrahill

Surprisingly not that much!

I'm excited to find out how terrible it will be xD

They're definitely coming soon!

Super weird!

Most came from this site: www.niehorster.org but a lot was just ENDless research xD

nevermind I am a retard

Oh it’s coming ;)

Definitely! coming soon! :)

No, because the fascist militia are actually pretty numerous! They made up to like 3000 men of the division at some points!

@@Aldrahill fair enough

What’s the mod? :)

Because it was actually quite a lot of infantry! Way more than a support company’s worth.

@@Aldrahill Huh, ok then in that case it makes sense. Thanks for the info.