"...and starfire, she has no one." *starts getting really sad for her for some strange reason"

Reason's why I love Starfire is because she always seems to be the most sweetest person, threw different interpretations.

I personally think the reason starfire turned more "cold and sexual", like they say in the video, is because, knowing that, pretty much EVERY person she ever loved,where eventually killed, or left her. All the people she cared about,were eventually gone. Now she's just, looking for the love and attention she had lost. She thinks that,maybe, the love she had lost,she might get it back, by having sex with other people. The reason why they say she is "cold", is not that she's like that. She has just been left, SO MANY TIMES, that she just doesn't wants it to happen again,but she knows she has to keep fighting. So she eventually starts to remain strong. She's not cold,she's just a person with a bad past, that decided to keep going.

I also strongly dislike the New 52 Starfire, but I'm so happy that she and Nightwing are together in the new animated movies

Wait, so starfire and Dick Greyson didn't got back together in the end. Why????? They were my favorite couple. Especially when I saw the cartoon version of Teen Titans 😭

Maybe she's colder because of all she's lost? Even Dick Grayson isn't sticking by her from what you said. So she intentionally uses her body to attract men because she knows she can. Same with the sex being a coping mechanism, wanting to find some kind of pleasure or happiness in life. Even if it's just physical and temporary.

I am so sick of all the hating for the new Starfire. She is the smartest, strongest, most caring and all around most capable of the team. Yes the way she's drawn is way oversexualized. But shouldn't a character be based on... well character, instead of looks?

at 8:09 i got really sad then it just shouted ITS SUPER EFECTIVE

Oh my goodness. I need to stop commenting. But I literally teared up when you started talking about how Starfire has no one and needs Dick. And I feel bad, because Dick is ALWAYS shipped with Barbara I feel. (Besides for mostly TT (The show) Fans. And I love Barbara, and I get that they have a LOT of history, but Starfire is always being called a slut, but as you said, that is just the way Tamaraneans, tend to be. (Lustful, Sensual), but she really did love Dick, and was really passionate about him. People can say what they want, but I will always love Kori.

man I never knew how fucked up starfire got after teen titans :( thank you for this video!

am I the only one who thought he was going to cry a couple times throughout the video

7:54 Got a little emotional there. Lol

The new Starfire comic that has come out has made her a lot like her counterpart in the Teen Titans show. She is very naive and goofy and fun like she is in the show. There is a bit in the comic where she is in a jewellery store selling something and the person says that it is worth "3 big ones" and it shows her thinking and what she is imagining is 3 elephants. The Starfire in this new comic is light years better than the new 52 version.

Thanks that was informative, I really like the cartoon network Teen Titans one of her too

7:47 dude are u about to cry? Wow this must be really sad

You look like the fourth hokage from naruto

I think Starfire wouldn't have turned out the way she did if it wasn't for Dick Grayson. Like seriously, I blame him. >3> He's an ass. "Let's just hit it and quit it and move on!" Why would you do that?! Sorry, rant over. I just really don't like him and rejoiced after I found out he got what he deserved.

"Don't ever let anyone tell you Teen Titans was all clean and happy ect.. because they were dirty buggers." I'm dead

"I can't wait for something tragic to happen to her..." Got me there😂😂😂

You didn't mention Nightstar, Starfire and Nightwing's daughter in the Kingdom Come series.

I'll just pretend in my head that Starfire and Robin are together and got married... Hate it when people do that -_- Great story btw!!

Well Starfire sure does sound like she was written as someones sexual desire on paper. I agree with you that the Starfire in the Teen Titans series was great and should have left enough content for others to follow. Since writers like to change things and make one simply story into a Jerry Springer slugfest and make their lives a living hell not just to the character but to the readers, respectfully! Writers don't always have a finished story in mind until enough content has been developed to establish a great story arc, or a weird one!

I hate the new version of star fire as well, they should bring the old writers back

I think I understand her ro-boot, and here's my theory: Throughout her first incarnation, her joy and desires were constantly ripped away from her. In this new incarnation, she is through with getting the short end of the stick, so now she goes out and takes what she wants.

It definitely impacted my reading of Red Hood as well. I really love Red Hood too, and the Outlaws started off great, but she kind of killed it for me a little. They could have kept the sexy nature, but made her more than just this... characterless character. I dunno. It was pretty weak.

I totally agree that the new starfire is written poorly :/ I love the new drawing approach, not the costume that the artists gave her nor her new character and behaviour. The writers suck.

the part about Nightwing being more than over her made me so upset T.T

I so miss the cartoon teen titans. It was something that was geared more towards teenagers and adults then kids because some of the subject matter. I mean they really did kill characters off which blew my mind. Though I like the adult titans I really wish someone would do a direct to DVD movie on them, like they did Batman:Under the Red Hood. That video was super cool. Thanks for the video and the comic history lesson. I've been out of the loop since the early 90s due to closing of our local comic stores and bookstores cutting back on comics.

From my knowledge, which may be wrong, for the new 52 Starfire. From what I have heard, Starfire lost her memories, in a way, forcing herself to forget about them, since they were so tragic. Including those about Dick. She has made herself forget everything and whenever asked about, she would know or feel great pain. With that said making her almost emotionless and cold, as you said. And to help her feel emotions and feel normal again, she resorts to having meanless sex with others, to help get some kinda of feeling, to feel alive. Now I know its sounds a lottle weird but I think that is how it is. Also right now she is still currently on Earth and is still dating Roy Harper, which was said in the latest issue of the comic. Other then that, the video was fantastic and I learned a lot about my favorite character, so I thank you!

starfire is still my favorite hero c:

I'm trying so hard not to laugh at 'Slutfire'

I love this video! Starfire is one of my favorite characters and you provide so much depth and information about her that most fans of Teen Titans that I know of, just gloss over or they just focus on her cheerful persona more often seen in the first cartoon series...honestly, why does "Go!" even exist...and therefore portray her as too sunshiny or a ditz and any possibility at a serious tone just makes me go, "X'hal! Do your research!" Also, thank you for mentioning she was the fourth character to go by that name, I've only known of one other and I believe that's Leonid...Kevlar? Before becoming Red Star. As for the new 52 Starfire, I haven't read the comics directly, but I have read what's been done to the new character and I'm with you, I hate it. I was so dismayed by how Koriand'r's been changed. Kory is not meant to be a cold character! Not all of the time anyway. Did they mix her up with her sister? And what's with the outfit? If the cartoon Starfire can freak out over her outfit from the majority of the comic issues, I'd bet she'd faint upon sighting the new 52 one.

Wow! This is really cool to watch! I got hooked on your videos since yesterday. But I was wondering...who were the other 3 Starfires?

I love star fire in the Cartoon Networshow

"Slutfire"...well said!

Well then... My fond memories of watching the cartoon just died.

This video was actually a really good one. Great job explaining Starfire's origins! I agree that DC should make Starfire more like the way she is in the Teen Titans cartoon (which I love!). She's so girly and cute that way. I also think Red Hood and the Outlaws would be a better story if they didn't screw up Starfire's personality (the operative word being "screw").

Hi ItsSuperEffective, I'm new to your channel (just subbed) and I want to say that I really enjoy your analysis on comics here, especially this new Starfire. I totally agree with you that while sensuality and sexuality have always been a part of her character, it almost seems like the writers are now playing it as a main focus for her. It's a little disgusting and degrading imho. Granted I know that females in comics have never really been portrayed very, well for lack of a better word "realistically" (perfect bodies and skin tight revealing costumes abound), but I'm finding nowadays the female characters are being shown as little more than sex toys and eye candy. I can really see this in the way that they kinda sexed up Harley Quinn and Catwoman, like that whole controversy with her looking sexy while about to commit suicide and Catwoman and Batman going at it like two horny teenagers in some recent issue. As a good ol' red blooded male comic book enthusiast, I like me some sexy chicks as much as the next guy, but I think that you gotta put story first. Otherwise we might as well just be buying issues of Heavy Metal, not that I don't read Heavy Metal or think that Heavy Metal is bad. I just personally think that there are so many things you can do with female characters in comics besides just sexing em up. What do you think of the new direction that their taking with a lot of female characters in comics nowadays? Do you feel like it alienates female readers too? Because I happen to know a few women who like comic books like I do and they are downright appalled by some of the goings on in comics on the part of female characters. Sorry for such a long post but keep up the great work! See you on the next vid!

yeah, I don't even read comic books. I just watch the cartoon, but after hearing what you say about the book, it changes my perspectives on the characters completely! But why does Nightwing and Starfire break up? I mean they were about to marry until Raven interrupted it...

I LOVE the cartoon version of Starfire! She's such a positive person!

don't they have a girl called nightstar?

I agree with you on the new Starfire.. I don't really like this version of her

Are you excited for the new solo series that Starfire's getting? I think its funny that you compared her to Harley Quinn, because the people behind the new Harley Quinn solo series are the ones making the Starfire solo

It seems like DC doesn't know what to do with Starfire. I agree, it sucks.

As always informative as well as hilarious bro; and I agree, the naive and caring, yet generally serious starfire would have been very entertaining for the series overall. She brings a humorous feel to the readers.

thanks you very much to speak about Starfire!!! Starfire is my favourite character in DComics.

im really (i mean REALLY) surprised shes not a star sapphire.

you know when you think about it there is someone in the marvel universe who understands starfire: skaar. think about it they come from ravaged planets, their both royalty, they both have evil siblings who are mad with power and they are both spirited warriors. some of their diffrences is that starfire focuses on the positives, skaar focusses on the negitives, starfire is ignorent and skaar is intelligent, starfire can fire blasts of energy and skaar has the old power. i can see these two being great friends if they met. if starfire and skaar met skaar would be able to relate to her to a degree but the diffrence is is that skaar had it much worse on sakaar since he had to fight and kill just to survive day to day, he was responsible for his planets destruction and his mothers spirit cast him out. but im willing to bet if these two became friends and starfire took skaar to tamaran he would feel right at home.

I recently read Red Hood and the Outlaws and I actually liked this portrayal of Starfire. When you read it you find out that she's still scarred by the way her and Dick Graisons relationship ended and she just wanted to keep Roy at arms length. I don't really care if she wants to have sex with every guy character, but that's not the case. She develops actual feelings for Roy and it's not like her character is this extremely sexual 2D character. After reading Starfire 2015 they tried to make her look less seductive, but she remains secure with her sexuality but makes these ditzy like decisions which isn't like the previous portrayal of Starfire

redhood and the outlaws is one of my favourite comic series shes so much better in the new 52

I agree, I beileve the Starfire in Redhood wasn't chosen because of her storyline. The writers just wanted a sexual superhero to fight in Outlaws and they just choose from a random pool of female superheros and picked Starfire. There is no problem with her being more sexual but they took out too many of her personal traits in Redhood.

6:40 filthy nastaaaayyyyy!!! Great video by the way. I always wowonder why the teen titans don't have a movie. Then again, i think with too many characters to be explained in a single movie actually is way harder to control. That's why the avengers only happens after they have you watch hours and hours of the individual characters so it works. It's still too chaotic, but but at least it has footing. Sonic heroes had 4 teams of 3 so that's 12 main characters but only 1 enemy. Eggman. In shadow the hedgehog and the sonic adventure series, you fight the usa government and eggman. But again, sonic adventure 1 sucked for the same reason, some people love sonic adventure games, but i know it's easyier to love than hate when there's multiple games based on similar agendas.

You should have a video about blackfire.

Yeah, the new Starfire bites, keep up the great work sir, your persona is quickly becoming a cult classic.

I can't express how much i enjoy and appreciate your videos. As a father who started reading comics to better my relationship with my kids who read them your videos help me learn more about the characters I've begun to enjoy.

i truly believe that robin and her are worth to each other . they R my most favourite couple of all time. they worth to have a happy ending ... and then they bring up this ... bitch =.= . have not thing like Startfire that I knew ...

I think that a lot of people are thinking waaay too deeply about Starfire's new design and demeanor. I personally just don't have that much of a problem with it. Her behavior seems to generally fit with Tamaranean culture.

According to the upcoming Convergence in Solicitations if the pre Flashpoint universe was still going. Nightwing would of married Oracle. Also i'm quite looking forward to the post Convergence Starfire series. Finally a comic book Starfire that does not look like a space hooker.

I love that talking about Bruce's and Dick's relationship almost made you cry. I get that way when I talk about Bruce and Jason.

I never really cared about starfire anyway but I can totally understand his point of view about changing a character you love. And for what. They changed shazam's personality but he fell completely out of being relevant really and probably did not have any many true fans. I feel like characters like starfire may not be as popular as batman but their fans still don't like it when you change everything about them

Would you think that later in the comics, Nightwing and Starfire would be romantically involved again? Imo, I would love to see this happen again, but I doubt that the writers would bring the relationship back again.

I agree, definitely love the cartoon version Star Fire. And her story with Robin is better too.

Is that Vampire Knight I see on the bookshelf? ;D

Ok, first of all, the last thing you said..."please set her on fire" was funny as hell...I repeated it twice. Thanks for the new incite on starfire...its really nice to finally see the history of my favorite teen titan members.

Are those vampire knight anime comic things in ur bookcase?

I wish starfielre would have been portrayed like the cartoon version, she was so sweet, innocent, generous, couragous, and curious(in a good, little child learning about the world kind of way)

hey I was wondering if you could do a history about Phoenix (A.K.A. Jean Grey) becoming Dark Phoenix. Thanks.

You for get another ability of starfire her ability of speak every lenguaje with a kiss

starfire's change was totally uncalled for and the old one was better

Great work on this piece. Starfire is a very underrated character in DC. How do you feel about the heavy anime Teen Titans cartoon? I would prefer if they just did these characters seriously and used the 1980s origin stories to make an amazing cartoon. It's too bad that cyborg is supposed to be part of the Justice League now--it really messes with this team.

wow, Faust, you're like a kid in a candy store when you talk about these superheroes

After reading the first issue of Red Hood and the Outlaws, I was extremely put off as well. But a friend convinced me to keep reading the series because he swore to me that they fixed her. There was the issue where they explain how Jason and Kory met that showed a whole different side to her character. There was an entire arc where the team goes with Kory to save Tameran and she effectively captains a starship and her memory issues were later revealed to be a mental defense mechansim to block out painful memories(apparently something really bad happened between her and Nightwing). While this Starfire is a lot more distant than her television counterpart I think it fits. She would have issues connecting with others(as you pointed out she really doesn't have anyone) and being a slave for several years would also cause mental problems. Whatever happened between her and Dick really messed with her. I mean she completely isolated herself for a year that should give a clue as to her mental state. I guess all I'm getting at is as the comic has gone they've developed her character more and I'm really enjoying where this new Starfire is going. I would recommend giving the comic a second chance and see if any of the changes they made make her character any more appealing.

thumps up if you think that Starfire and Nightwing should be together ;)

13:05 "…or, Please-Set-Her-On-Fire… and…Don't." I Love the Cartoon Network StarFire!!! She was my fav character when I was younger and she still is!!! I'd hate to see her changed like that!!

Your hair is fucking amazing

Is... is he wearing a wig?

Mr. Clean was an Outsider? :D

Wow. I usually never think of Starfire as anything but a cute, sweet character who loves kitties.

What about "Whoryand'r?"

I love how such a good looking guy is a fan of DC, DC is an amazing company. I draw alot of inspiration from them for my own stories and characters.

you know when you think about it there is someone in the marvel universe who understands starfire: skaar. think about it they come from ravaged planets, their both royalty, they both have evil siblings who are mad with power and they are both spirited warriors. some of their diffrences is that starfire focuses on the positives, skaar focusses on the negitives, starfire is ignorent and skaar is intelligent, starfire can fire blasts of energy and skaar has the old power.

Honestly, my view of why she changed is she saw how unfair the world was time and time again. She thinks no one will love her, so she gives up her body in order to try and feel at least a sliver of what she used to feel. She’s cold, but can you blame her? She’s been tortured to great lengths by many different people, rejected by the one she thought would love her, who she loved. Imagine your planet was destroyed, and then you realize it might be back. Possibly with the people that you loved, only to have your hopes destroyed. Everyone you loved turned against you, so you realize love is worthless at this point, and use sex to try to grasp at the one little thing you think is impossible for you, but that you crave more than anything. Nah, I understand it

Can someone please tell me in which comic Nightwing answered Starfire's love question? Please?

Apparently she and Dick Greyson were orginally supposed to get married, but the guy who was originally doing the project left and some other person came in and decided on the now known story.

I love your hair so much. ITS SUPER EFFECTIVE!

I can feel bad for Starfire because the bad guys took over her world and doing such things towards her and Blackfire and yet Blackfire have betrayed her.

you like dc comics, you have vampire knight on your bookshelf, and you have a game of thrones map on your wall... you are my best friend

When he was talking about starfire and robin he looked like he was gunna cry

I Totally support the love you have for the old Star and I miss her too !! But what about nightstar a.k.a Mari Grayson

favorite superhero!!!

Poor Starfire, she deserves better. I thought she'll end up with Robin. Thanks for the vid

Starfire is in my top 10 comic heroes but i hate the fact in Titans series made that her powers depend only by sun energy and she is weak at night

Dude, your commitment with this stories is amazing.

Favorite hero

starfire heart was broken n doesn't give a fuck

I hear rumors that she had a daughter named nightstar. Can you explain this?

You made me laugh so hard about the new 52 Starfire how you don't like her .lol😂😂😂

You should do a short video on Nightstar because it is an interesting concept of what would happen if Nightwing and Starfire actually did get together and I hardly know anything about the character.

I think that u should do more video of starfire she is one of my favorite series to read and I think she deserves more spotlight

This is actually pretty interesting and in-depth, man. Subscribed.