Anyone who feels stressed.... WILL BE FIRED!!!!

The Shedvision show on weekends

Frost gave what the viewer needed in his opinion and not what they wanted. He kept doing this, which shows a bit of a snobbish, North London set attitude from him.

If only David Frost had taken cues from what NBC's Today was doing. Dude spent time in America so surely he would have been aware of how Today and GMA were perfecting the formula. And TV-am under Dykes just made Good Morning Britain a British clone of the Today show anyway.

@@johnking5174That’s why when he was involved with CPV-TV’s bid, it was rejected by the ITC

To be fair, TV-AM & LWT might have brought the viewers in after Frost left both, but where both low-brow broadcasters by the standards of the time. Really the best solution was to go down the road the likes of Thames & Granada (Pre-1990s) took, which was the right balance of Populist & High-Brow.

@@johnking5174 It wasn't so much that he misunderstood, he just thought they were wrong.

If she would have been allowed to get away with it. She would have committed the mass murders he did with the miners and anyone who didn't like her.

​@@jean-lucpicard5510but with a difference, Pinochet imposed his dictatorship abolishing democracy and closing any media that wasn't aligned with him, and add his big numbers on exiled from his own people.

1968 to 1980 - 12 years and memories fade, or he had very good connections within ITV.

But they didn't give him London Weekdays in 1991. Unfortunately they gave it to Carlton.

I'll give you this: along with LWT and TV-AM, Frost went over to the United States to start up a newsmagazine called 'Inside Edition'. At first, it didn't do well because of Frost, obviously. So, Bill O'Reilly took over and then Deborah Norville and has since become a smash hit. For anything that Frost created, at least they found someway to find success.

I was surprised he was given the first one. Lol. I mean, what were his credentials at that point?

Time to go to Manchester! (looks at price of round-trip flights from Kansas City to Manchester) (looks at the price of hotels to stay in while I wait for two weeks in quarantine) Okay, maybe later...

Another Manchester connection for you! The out of vision voiceover artiste in the Pye Tube Cube advert is Pete Baker. Back in February 1983 he presented the breakfast show on Piccadilly Radio. The same radio station that brought Timmy Mallett and Chris Evans on the road to fame.

I really want one to stick a Raspberry Pi in, maybe add teletext out etc.

It was of course a shame too for TV-am to be replaced by GMTV in January 1993 as they did. Of course had they continued until at least the February then, they would have been on air ten years or even more had the ITC allowed it so too.

There were 7 applicants who applied for that back in 1980, including ATV, ITN and an applicant called AM-TV. You'd have thought that after the disaster LWT who included the name David Frost, they'd have never had him involved with another ITV franchise. Yet again the useless IBA went with him. And yet again the useless IBA did nothing (in exactly the same way as LWT) did nothing to interject and revoke its licence.

@@robertcomer2767 The IBA was different to the ITA who agreed the 1968 London Weekend Television deal, and so probably forgot the disaster of it. Second, Frost was not on his own with TV-am. He had Michael Parkinson, Anna Ford, Angela Rippon, Robert Kee and Peter Jay all alongside him. IBA felt if these people trusted Frost, then it should be okay. It wasn't. Problem was the format. All of them had the high brow nature of content. Really a North London bias of thinking. Michael Parkinson was really the only down to earth one among that group.

@@johnking5174 Truth is the IBA were utterly useless. Just Lord and Lady this putting in a few hours a week and had no idea of how to intervene when companies such as TV-am and BSB were a complete disaster. It was a disgrace to see all the ITV companies allowing that rubbish on screen at 6am, but then it wasn't their airtime but an embarrassment to the network in those early months of 1983. Well its nearly 40 years ago so is all history now.

The entirely necessary and justifiable levels of f@shb@sh is absolutely one of the appeals here.

Breakfast become a popular programme with its presenters who loved enjoy working with each other

@@richardsharpe2966 Do you mean Breakfast Time on the BBC 1983-1989 programme or the current BBC Breakfast programme?

@@johnking5174 The current one John

Good ol' Chapman Stick. A powerful weapon, especially in the hands of Tony Levin

I don't make the rules

Yes, as VHF was not switched off until January 1985.

@@johnking5174 Thanks!

TV-am management asked the IBA for permission to move the date forward. Peter Jay felt the longer BBC Breakfast Time had to settle in with no competition, the worse it would be for TV-am to attract an audience. Waiting until May 1983 would mean weeks passing by, where the BBC bedded in their show, making it better.

No one believes that. No one knows who Mike Walsh is and no one gives a shit about Australia, the land where culture goes to die. Off you pop.

Of course the irony here is that Parkinson buggered off to Australia in 1980 & with characteristic modesty claimed that Britain was finished & he had fixed a lucrative contract down under. Within a couple of years he was back-tail between his legs! Coincidentally Lenny Henry did the same thing nearly a decade later when Hollywood gave him the bum's rush after one film. Thank God for Red Nose Day eh Len?! Finally was the presenter being serious or sarcastic about 'Mogadon' Mike Morris?

Love a bit of Tory bashing. Too bad it's not physical.

Nononononono, you gotta say it like Knuckles does! "OH NO"

The franchise ended because they under bid. No one took it away from them apart from themselves, by under bidding dramatically.

Hi Steve - yes the idea of independent franchises for just one network channel is weird. It is a sort of mash up of your own affiliates system in the US. If you need any more help, just let me know, as I am a very keen US tv fan myself.

This system lasted from 1955 to 1994, at which point ITV companies were allowed to buy others out. The ITV companies in London (Carlton) and Manchester (Granada) bought about half the other companies each, with the exception of STV (Glasgow) and UTV (Belfast). The two companies then merged as ITV a few years later and that was it. UTV are no longer independent- so much for ITV.

It was, yes. I didn't learn that until after I'd made it.

Pop in just a couple of other things I didn’t realise until recently having read the sum of the 234 website footage which has now been archived that children’s programs Nick Wilson stopped becoming at the in-house producer as he was tied up in the strike action I didn’t realise that I just assumed he left to set up a clear idea Also did you notice the distain Richard Keys had for Timmy Malet that little incident on the last show 1992 I often wonder what that was all about

TV-am could have been a success from the start, if David Frost hadn't been part of it. It was his high minded, high brow, upper middle class approach to breakfast television that ruined it from the start. "Mission to explain", was utter BS. At 6.00am when you are up, bleary eyed and just starting your day, the last thing you want is a heavy laden programme of news and interviews, which Frost seemed to want.

@CreeWilly 1968 - 1983 is a long time, but still he thought he was right. David had a grit and determination, sadly it did not work when it came to running a television station. He totally misjudged both times what the public wanted. In 1983 he thought the public wanted news driven items at breakfast time and they simply didn't. In fact Ron Neil at the BBC who became BBC Breakfast Time editor did research in the states and found exactly the format that the public wanted. Frost didn't do his research.

@CreeWilly It still amazes me that he felt what the ITV viewer wanted at 6.00am in the morning was Robert Kee sitting in a newsroom delivering hard news stories as if he was presenting Panorama at 6.00am. Far too heavy for that time of day. Also commercially, ITV should not have gone for a BBC style approach, heavy news driven - it was commercial suicide for them, any one with half a brain could have predicted the format stunk and would kill the company which it nearly did. March 17th 1983 is when TV-am came so close to collapsing.

@@johnking5174 But don't forget Sir David Frost was a great broadcaster who had successful tv shows both sides of the Atlantic

@@richardsharpe2966 Being a successful broadcaster is no way a means to being a good runner of a tv station. History shows twice his attitude in running tv stations nearly brought them to collapse. 1968 London Weekend Television had to be saved by an Australian Rupert Murdoch because of Frost's high brow programming schedules which led to millions of viewers flocking to BBC One or BBC Two and a near financial collapse of LWT by 1970. Then in 1983 he did the exact same thing, brought a far too heavy, high brown North London approach to breakfast television, and what happened? History repeated, and TV-am verged on financial collapse, to the point where they could not pay their newspaper bills from the local newsagents in Camden Lock and the London Electricity Board came to cut off their electricity due to weeks of unpaid bills. He had the midas touch with interviews, but he was the kiss of death in management and running a station.

@Puddock did anything of the old Studio remain in 1993 ?

@@castle6742 In 1993, yes. Quite a bit of it. Most of the exterior's gone by now, but last I heard the eggcups were still on the roof.

Eggcups are still there.

Thatcher's still dead mate