Racism, white privilege and white psychosis is real

Ikr? Unbelievable.

inst racism and toxic feminisM!!

​@IntellegentBatMat you sound really intelligent rn. Dumbass

Sounds exactly like what this whole.society hs become. Don't look at evidence, don't be logical, and don't hurt the feelings of those social media deems worthy

And just like here in America white's killing babies of color smh

That hospital needs to be sued for a couple million £. Blood is on their hands and they need to compensate these babies' families and this doctor for the egregious negligence and distress they caused. Won't bring the babies back but will send a message.

Hypocrisy of modern UK. Recently woman who murdered baby deliberately in 3rd trimester ny taking abortion pills get out of jail. Feminazis trying to portray her as a victim. Abortion without questions asked legal till 6 months. Abortion in case of possibility of Down syndrome legal till birth.

@@utubefreshieno, the managers who dismissed their concerns need to go to jail.

@@captainross4706 Worse than dismissed, they actively bullied the doctors who were trying to raise concerns into silence with threats of destroying their career. All to hold up the pathetic 'image' of their hospital trust.

Many would be going too school but we need to find the ones going to school😅 That are the bullshit attitudes and vwey plain and We do but we need to have Jo's ba l 9:12 9:12 9:12 9:12 9:12 9:12 9:12 9:12 The very start

I so love this place an this planet HOW CAN WE HELp our pl anet

Yeah he’s a great actor I Must say. Oscar winning performance dr Ravi jayaram 👏

@@andyryan3756why do you say that you sicko ?

Yes we do he is a fantastic doctor

What about abortion?

@@ED-xk5sb I never have assisted an abortion and never will. Abortion can be intentional or medical. Have you heard of the rule of epikia?

​@@ED-xk5sbWhat has this to do with a monster deliberately killing premature babies you can agree or disagree but go onto an abortion rights site to say your piece

Open yours eyes... There's more to it when ppl pass such comments.

Heya I don't know much about what's going inside the wards but do you know any reason why they never kept CCTV cameras? Was it privacy reasons?

He's already given the line "lessons will be learned..."

100% let managers be on trial too

Name and shame, they need to be fired 😠

This whole case stinks of White Woman privilege.

More than fired!! Those managers need prison also. They are partly liable!! 😡😡

Exactly. Very irresponsible hospital!! Drs know better.

AGREE!!!!

No they can't@@WaryofExtremes-realoriginal

Keep in mind she's white, he is colored, no way anyone is going to accept an accusation from him about her.

agreed. i hope the management gets sued by the family. maybe on the grounds of negligence?

Yes. There was proof. The first baby had air injected into him/her...discovered on autopsy. The second had INSULIN injected. Revealed at autopsy...these were not 'mystery' deaths..not caught...red flags went up IMMEDIATELY - AND THE FIRST TWO TIMES- ,Lucy was the common denominator, as she would be with the other attacks/murders. So this was caught early on. Known murders. And execs let it ride- and staff unfortunately did not independendently call in pokice- and neither did the coroner's. Why?

Her father threatened to take these Dr's to the Medical Council could have lost their jobs this man has yet to apologize to these Dr's or indeed the grieving parents like his coward of a daughter could not face them

Hey Christine, read the article 'Conviction' in the New Yorker by Rachel Aviv. You might change your mind.

I feel bad for him too. Stuck between a rock and a hard place. Whistleblower Letby one side, Breary the other side telling him to shut her up before Jayarams own incompetence becomes the issue. Poor bloke had no choice really. I mean he has family and all that, which Letby doesn’t, so his needs should take precedence over Letby.

Lol of course they're not going to he held accountable, are you mad? They have their fall girl already.

The smug fatcats always walk away with massive pensions in these sort of scandals. They are never truly held responsible.

Definitely!

Bring the management to trial!!

Just pure speculation, but Id be intrigued to see if Lucy letby had any personal relationship with those managers.

​@@ytshudshe did have a brief relationship with a doctor but I don't think he was senior management.

​@@ytshudshe wasn't an ethnic....would have been treated differently if she was black or Asian I can assure you.

Absolutely correct 👏🏼

Nhs managers should apologise to him and then face prosecution

I genuinely hope the government will honor him and he others who forced this to be recognized.

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But Hospital Authorities won't be Punished for the Crimes they committed

They were deliberately negligent and indifferent. They need to be prosecuted.

@@freespeech6999 it went further . It was the organised cover up of abuse of professionals by the professional gatekeepers- multiple murders and attempted murders of the most helpless and vulnerable- the attacks and murders continued. Police should have been called with the first air injections and insulin administrations. My heart breaks for the little one who collapsed multiple times- but fought to LIVE - two or three collapses in the space of a few hours before he lost the fight and died at the hands of this monster..I think she killed two of three triplets? How do the heartless hospital bosses look in the mirror? The parents? No words to console them. The ball can't stop here. Her bf, the married registrar who was on duty when she timed the attacks so she would come across glorious and committed to him. Haul his butt in.

They're involved in something with her. That's why they tried to protect her. In any hospital in the world if more than 2 babies die the nurses on shift will be invistigated. How many babies she had to kill before they suspect her?!

Absolutely.

Amen. We really need hold managers accountable, they keep getting away with these cases over and over again.

@kitchenworker-they turned a blind eye to what was going on AND totally undermined and undervalued the expertise of the DRs who were raising the concerns.

Sounded like all they had to do initially is correlate her on shift schedule with the victims, which the police later did, to at least draw more conclusions/help shine light on her. @@topgtopg2658

Stop using the word "toxic" call it as it: CORRUPTED.

This is what happens when far left politics take precedent over common sense

they admin looked the other way because they were incentivized to do so. if they believed the doctors and called the police, and she was or wasn't, nobody would want to go to the hospital anymore. I wouldn't want to go there for an aspirin! so they closed their eyes and hoped it woudl go away, so they could keep their fat paychecks and cushy jobs. they should face some culpability, even if it is just getting personally sued by some of the latter parents for not stopping her sooner. the hospital admin made a choice. a conscious choice. and if you don't want it to keep happening, then you heed to assign consequences. 🤷‍♂

They’ll be looking for work because the hospital will/has fired them because of public outcry and multiple lawsuits from the parents of the babies!

I was a nurse and trust me, it's one of the most toxic environments I have had the misfortune in working in, most of which was caused by the ward manager.

and then got himself loads of publicity and maybe made a bit of money too.

Says the person who’s probably pro-abortion and calls the painful brutal murder of millions of babies a “right”.

He said 4-5 children actually😢

“There are babies that could be going to school now, but aren’t”? What’s this guy trying to do, convince us that Letby did them a favor? Sure sounds like it. Because school sucks!

So should all tha aborted babies be going to school

absolutely chilling words.

Sadly there may be some doctors who care many sadly don't some nurses may care but most just don't. It it what it is.

@@WaryofExtremes-realoriginalthis is not proven and is not economical. What’s more sensible is having a system where whistleblowing is encouraged! Management should also be made accountable

Lots of people in power never do what is right... until AFTER they are personally impacted. The top management did not make a change until AFTER they believed their jobs were at risk.

Bunch of jumped up pen pushers. They should be charged for willful negligence the disgusting pigs

Those useless managers should be prosecuted and in jail - their incompetence is beyond shocking and have blood on their hands .

nice to see one comment to this interview making sense

He’s talking about how you overwhelm and silence a troublesome interfering whistleblower like Letby. That’s what his idols forced him to do, by pointing out his own failures and the possible repercussions. It’s called evil.

Nobody understands how corrupt hospitals are.

Should have suspended her on pay, to allow an investigation, think of how many may have been saved, well we will never know, hindsight, or just plain common sense.

"shame"? The management, but most especially the CEO Hervey, should be sacked.

​@@soniavadnjal7553they should be on trial for corporate manslaughter! Sacking is the least they deserve.

That hospital has to shut down.

Can't agree more!

Sadly, it very much looks like there was a racial factor to management decisions. I’ve seen this before- just not with such an extreme consequence.

The CEO and medical director should be fired for utter negligence, maybe even put behind bars for grievous dereliction of duty.

@@truthseeker3740 Not to mention, not trusted around kids.

Just the usual, typical institutional bureaucratic response to protect themselves

I think Lucy needed to be found guilty at trial first. Imagine if she was innocent and they were in jail. They’ll be sweating now though.

Whistleblowers are hated in the UK they become targeted individual's

@@aname5267 There's no problem suspending her on normal pay until a proper investigation takes place. Fact is no other nurse or doctor was on the ward on the same shifts she was, and there was evidence several babies had been injected with artificial insulin, that doesn't happen accidentally.

Agreed

@@tomsixsix to true

Hfe didn't tho, he apparantky saw her and yet did or said nothing

@@Andrea-ld9cy Well thanks for that comment. It made a lot of sense. Oh, wait... 🤔

@@Andrea-ld9cy I do not know whether to take your comment seriously. At that moment in time, all you are thinking about is the baby health's deteriorating and doing something about it. There is a procedure and time and place for making comments and from the report Dr Ravi and his fellow doctors did just that but the management were ineffective. Thank God the police were on the case after about less than 15 minutes with the medical staff.

@@Andrea-ld9cy Hey? He raised this years prior. He was shamed and made to look like a liar because he was brown and she was white.

what I don't get is why if lucy letby was working in that hospital from 2012 that nothing happened till 2015?

😱😡, I am so 😡

I remember that case. I live in Ireland but I believe she even got into an ambulance with a child she had already attempted to murder and ATTENDED to the child even when medics told her not too. Didn't she move around a bit to try and avoid detection? It shocking that hospital administration is so afraid of litigation they'd sooner let someone go on with all these suspicions.... 🤬 they are as guilty as sin....

@@marietighe6328 She got her excitement running the resuscitation efforts which is why she did it. She was at one hospital for some time until they kicked her out, then went to work for a private practice pediatrician until she left and was arrested while trying to get a job at OUR hospital !

@@frankdrevinpolicesquad2930. Yes that's what I was thinking when i heard about her and lots of people described her ENJOYING the attention. Its almost like Munchousen by proxy ( sorry i mispelled this) my god these people are so sick. I had limited information on this case. I still remember looking at a photo of her and feeling such a deep hatred for her. It's also traumatic for staff like you to believe that someone in your midst is a cold blooded killer. Its a healing profession and i can only imagine it must be hard to trust colleagues again. So sorry for this 😥❤️

​@@marietighe6328Beverly Allitt was a case years ago never learned anything from that have they

Those responsible should be STRUCK OFF and jailed - public should DEMAND that

They were deliberately negligent and indifferent. They need to be prosecuted.

I'm an MD in Canada and it is the SAME here, the management has all the power and are accountable to no one. Narcissistic, immoral bureaucrats. I've faced bullying from them. What these doctors faced would 100% have happened in ANY hospital in the Western hemisphere. The killer b** is going to jail thank God, but them? never a shadow of a consequence. Parents of dead children, please sue these managers into oblivion. Oh and btw, nurses are unionized. Their unions are powerful, even against the management. Doctors have no recourse. You may be amazed to her this, but we are absolutely defenseless, as our College is only there to sanction us, never, under no circumstance, are they there to support us in any way.

@@niburu1508 Managers can't get 'struck off'.

100% agree. They willingly assisted the deaths

They was desperate to destroy her because she reported him for failures of care

@@Koi-addict33 What do you mean? This statement makes no sense.

@@Koi-addict33 Stop the bullS.

Yeah, they’re not nurses.

@@Koi-addict33 What about the notes in her apartment, were they planted?

Exactly... I felt bad of the babies who died.. but he has literally save countless babies from dying... Who new how many lifes she was about to tk in future... Her side of story also seems to be doubtfull .. since shes a psycho .. Maybe we'll see a netflix documentary on her soon

He should be promoted and rewarded for his courage

I totally agree with your comments. This gentleman has probably saved countless other babies who could have been killed by Lucy

Racism because he’s Indian

Because he is not cocaisian .

not sad, evil. The nurse was evil, and the management wasn't incomeptent, they were evil as well. Good men and women stood up, fought against even, even swallowing their pride to save the lives of the most innocent I hope that the management go to prison as well for child endangerment and for hiding, and assisting in, criminal actions that took the lives of multiple babies

Shows how super smart and intelligent people will discount their gut feelings. We have an intuition for a reason

Far left politics in NHS

Yep, that's right, seven doctors discussing it, for how long? One even stated they had a killer on the ward, but not one of the seven went to the police in all that time while those babies were being killed, as they thought by Lucy Letby (not to mention the suffering and injury to those babies that survived). They let her get away with it, because something something management, jobs, concerns etc.

​@@ITSREALLYNOTYOURFAULTif they went to the police they would have lost their job and their reputation would have been harmed and maybe they wouldn't have found another job

mate, there was no murder. IT was a dangerous, understaffed and unsanitary ward. They should have analyzed it like adults not witchfinders and taken responsibility rather than blaming Letby.

Its hardly a new thing, many nurses have killed babies, and of course the most prolific British serial killer was a doctor.

Agreed. They also need to be prosecuted so they can never do this ever again.

Letby was 33yrs old not 20yrs

Not only sacked. The managers should be locked for life because they enabled her to do the crime. Managers were focused to cover up. They didn't care about babies. Let them rooth in prison. Bustars

@@khali1880 she's 33 now banana

I am a retired nurse, too. I am outraged, horrified, and it hurts deep in my heart and soul. .

She was a psychopath. They are wired like that. While nursing has a lot of Empaths who care about people, Unfortunately there are psychopaths in the nursing profession too coz it gives them access to hurt & abuse helpless people without consequences.

Exactly

​@@globalcitizenn Exactly. I completely understand people's outrage at such a horrible crime but this person was obviously seriously mentally ill, a psychopath as you say. That does not excuse her - though there will be people who would certainly accuse us of trying to - but it does help to explain why she did something that otherwise seems unfathomable. To understand the mind of a criminal may help to prevent future potential cases like this by flagging up warning signs.....it might have in this case if it wasn't for the obvious lack of duty of care amongst incompetent NHS managers. How many of them will be called to account?

Too many nurses do harm patients. I speak from experience!

This guy is responsible, he was a consultant on that unit which was dangerous to babies. Their egos created the murder story.

yeah... that reputation is in tatters now

well ....there is a reason why india is the medical tourism hub of the world

British elites love to protect child killers and rapists. Remember Jimmy Savile?

Sums up English racists in one sentence

This is very common, sadly.. btw I work in the NHS

White privilege is real

Because she was a white female and the doctors were asian. They the management sided with the white female. Killer. How sad.

Hypocrisy of modern UK. Recently woman who murdered baby deliberately in 3rd trimester ny taking abortion pills get out of jail. Feminazis trying to portray her as a victim. Abortion without questions asked legal till 6 months. Abortion in case of possibility of Down syndrome legal till birth.

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@@leroysimon5692the chief was smashing Lucy Letby.

@@TOM-TOM-TOMgood point! I think her angelic demeanour kept her under the radar! Glad she been caught and now just lock her up and throw away the key!

💯%agree.

That's shoddy management for you! If this case doesn't prove that giving managers too much power over professionals is a terribly idea, then what will?

I have to wonder why nobody in charge of oversight of the actions of UK-based medical professionals learned a thing from the failures of various hospitals across the contiguous US of 1-time doc Michael Swango. There were warning signs that Lucy Letby was, like Mr. Swango in the 1990s, up to no good as a medical professional.

@@lavienestpasunlongfleuvetr2559 exactly.

I completely agree, I can't understand how 'speaking out" is such a vilified thing

It's obvious that doctors should be listened to and not managers when serial murder is suspected.

A code of ethics for NHS bureaucrats is urgently needed.

And not one that can be abused by the management to further their own ends.

@@Missydee-72Definitely, but how?! They certainly won’t want to do it, they must be made to

It might focus their minds if the admin concerned served a prison sentence.

Dr Death killed more, not that it makes her crimes any less horrific. We will never know what those children would have gone on to do and achieve. Maybe one of them would have been a PM, or award-winning author, maybe they would just just had familes. we will never know.

One of the babies who were part of a set of twins has severe learning difficulties and complex needs because of Lucy administering insulin

What makes hesick is her victims were defenseless and incapable of speaking out.

yeah they must be culpable under law right?

​@@AwwSnookems they definitely should be. They ignored the problem for well over a year before doing anything about it. Trying to strong arm several well respected doctors over a nurse is insanity. These doctors know what they are talking about and were silenced.

Yes. At least two babies died after they had ample evidence that Letby was a killer. They chose to ignore that evidence because she was a young and moderately pretty white nurse.

They are all part of the same killing cult. There's always evil managers at the top to cover up

Yup!

Because she was a white female and the doctors were asian. They the management sided with the white female. Killer. How sad.

😂😂😂😂😂

He come across on google as someone with a media profile and a big ego . What a nutcase. Would love to know what other colleagues thought about this guy .

People die , babies die but know everyone looks for someone else to blame . People die!!!

Guardians of humans legacy ? You sound like a nutcase. Hello anyone who has had anything to do with a hospital would realise that they are places where generally they die. .

Yes, brought me to tears!

I’m sure his reports were not taken seriously because he is Indian

@@lionkingk5098The white doctor’s reports weren’t taken seriously either.

@@lionkingk5098 Maybe, however, their were many senior docs with him on the issue.

​@@lionkingk5098Indian doctors are trusted worldwide tho!

Where were they 3 years ago, silent like the rest. Redemption should not be given to any of these people.

he didnt speak out loud enough ! if he had any real decency he would have gone straight to the police, instead of worrying about keeping his job

You saved lives Doctor. Lucy would have killed more😭

@@michelejohnston4029put yourself in his shoes before you pass judgement. He went through the correct channels . If he went straight to police , he could have been sued by the trust and the nurse for defamation. The fact that he and his fellow consultants persisted when the management put them off is courageous and heroic . They saved countless lives by speaking up .

​​@@michelejohnston4029 I disagree with you. He told the management and he was told to keep quiet. He could have lost his job and his family would be affected. This could lead to so many challenges for him. Are you for real? Do you have the audacity to speak out if the management tell you not to speak out? Are you thinking?

They were already understaffed.

So courageous yet he couldn't call 999 to report babies being murdered? Because he was scared of losing his job at worst? Seems quite the opposite of courage to me

@@AM-bl2cs go away troll lol

Please explain it to me. He claimed she was murdering babies. He told her boss, and when they didn't act, he just.. went on with his life? Why didn't he call the police, even anonymously? @@user-dc3ks6tx6v

​@repentandbelieveinJesusChrist8I believe insatan

@@user-dc3ks6tx6vl

He probably won't. If anyone does apologise that is basically admitting they where responsible (which they are). And none of them seem to be willing to do so. Personally, I believe all the management should be held accountable. Either charge them (if they can), or at least fire them. Not a single one of them should be anywhere near Hospital management again in their lives.

I'm a nurse. You should see what happens if you report someone for being high or stealing drugs

He's Indian, of course he's smart

😂👉​@@KM-rk3ok

​​@@KM-rk3okHe's British.

@@mildlydispleased3221 Nationality wise perhaps, I believe the previous commenter was referring to his potential ethnicity.

They were deliberately negligent and indifferent. They need to be prosecuted.

i would bet they did not

It’s understandable to feel that way. However, the funds for compensation will likely compete with funding for more positive causes in the hospitals. I’d be delighted however if compensation would be paid from the pensions of the Senior positions that allowed this to continue.

​@@MS-Patriot2agreed. Suing the hospital is just taking money out of the NHS that could be used for say training, to spot any potentially problematic staff or invest in the CCTV cameras Dr Jayaram suggested be placed in the NICU. Now, taking the money from the Big bosses by giving them a pay cut might be a better way to find funds to pay the lawsuit! Taking it from the doctors and nurses, be it directly or indirectly will only cause more problems, for us the patients, as well as the staff. Besides, no amount of money will make up for the loss of their babies.

No excuses, sue the NHS stop acting like it'll affect them in the least the government will continue to siphon money into that pit.

@@leannes1083 no no, the compensation comes from Govt, not the NHS. you're getting mixed up

​@@BOZ_11cos they've got so much money to spare. Take it from the execs, they aren't spending nigh on a decade at school, like doctors do, so why do they need to be on quite so much money? It's greed. But the government/NHS are 1 and the same essentially, taking money from 1 hurts the other, and the NHS can't afford to lose any more money. It took 11 years to get my surgery, if I'd gone private from the beginning, before my diagnosis, it would have been over and done with within 3 months. Hence why I don't want any money taking from the nhs be it directly or indirectly

The managers responsible should themselves be charged with causing or allowing the death of children.

​@@paddymeboyabsolutely the managers are as much to blame for the murders as they allowed her to continue to kill and threatened professional doctors not to talk out

@@paddymeboy Hope they can sleep at night

​@@khali1880we shouldn't let them.

Absolutely

Definitely

Strongly agree 🙏

@@JupiterThunder I'm surprised you allow managers who are not doctors and nurses to manage anything.

Not all the consultants are like him! There are so many useless ones! And nurses in general those days are absolutely awful! Yuk! Hospital should be the safest place! Disgusting! The board members should be prosecuted who protected her too!

9 years critical care, completely agree!

This type of emotional strain doesn't go away and I hope he doesn't become too sure of himself, because a crazy case like this causes crazy in people.

​@@XuyesiYes this woman's father threatened them with the Medical Council what right had they to bow to him and not the Professional Dr's obviously treating this man on a par with his delusional daughter something off in her upbringing

what about all the other doctors?

No he shouldn't ! he allowed this to continue on . He didnt do enough to stop her in her tracks

@@michelejohnston4029 He was threatened if he didn’t drop it

@@michelejohnston4029do you know he was threatened? How many people have you reported in your organisation?

He didn't do anything actually. He was a coward and did what he was told and should have just risked being fired by going to Police. I'm sure he could have set himself up in private practice if fired. Who would want to work for the NHS under those circumstances? I'd rather flip burgers at MacDonald's than help protect a baby murderer. Also he and his colleagues could have set up their own spy camera and caught her in the act and taken the footage to Police, without informing the hospital.

Heaven?🤦‍♂️ Please grow up.

there was other doctors too.

Are you aware it was the trust that called the police in the end? Not this Doctor or any of the other six Doctors? They did not report it to a regulatory body (nmc) outside of the trust. They did not go to the media. If the trust (under new leadership) did not call the police it could still be happening. Confused as to how Dr Ravi is a hero? There were many other avenues the Doctors who were concerned could have taken to stop this. They chose not to. Those were vulnerable babies. All patients rely on *brave* whistleblowers.

But he didn’t 🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️ only now is he speaking out with intent, he was told to be quiet and apologise, and he did.

@@therevolutioniscoming1569 - actually if you read the timelines, after being made to apologise, he did continue his private investigation along with the other concerned consultants. You have to remember that there was no definite evidence at that time so there will have been a lot of uncertainty and what the executives were saying wasn't without merit i.e. all that the doctors had at that time was circumstantial so it's understandable that they didn't go all out, guns blazing.

@@artspoonerespecially after being threatened by management with his livelihood. Shame on them.

Absolutely!

this is who should be knighted, not entertainers

Believe the official narrative at your peril.

I suspect he knew it wasn't murder and it would make him look bad to draw attention, since he and the other consultants were in charge of a dangerous poorly-run ward.

Coz the nurse was white and the doctor Brown. The bias to protect Lucy & discredit/threaten/humiliate Dr Jayram was racial. Period.

Senior doctors or ( ward head ) must scrutinise the progress of his word and must be held responcible along with the ward head nurse regarding all medication issued and administrated.All medication lockers including the refregirators must be monitored and sighened by issusing staff with time issued. The British taught this many decades ago to all countries they ruled.Why Then ? These procedures not followed now? The management must also be held responsible.

That’s another form of racism. Lucy the white murder with little experience is heard over the Asian doctor who has decades of experience. Let that sink in.

Well, this is what happens when you push certain individuals into higher positions,because they're apart of a certain demographic. You have graduates who know little to nothing, being prepped for higher leadership roles, over workers more deserving. Then the higher ups are quick to cover any of their mistakes. It happens all the time in the NHS.

@@ceecee4049yup exactly.

The hospital management team needs to be forced to write an apology letter to the doctors. Then fired.

@@eeroala5132not only that! They deserve lengthy jail time to be made an example of to other bosses like them. This behavious is very common amongst these NHS bosses. It needs to be dealt with harshly to reduce the chances if it happening again!

@@eeroala5132 They should serve sentences. People have been locked up for less in Health and Safety.

​@@eeroala5132sued at least to smithereens