The Rebooting of Batman was a Sh*t Show
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Rebooting the Batman is hard. Let’s talk about how difficult it was to make Christopher Nolan's Batman Begins, from picking up after the disaster of Batman & Robin, to the multiple failed projects of Batman Unchained (Joel Schumacher), Batman Beyond (Boaz Yakin) Batman: Year One (Darren Aronofsky), and the original Batman vs. Superman (Wolfgang Petersen).
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In the entertainment world, there are millions of dollars on the line and troubled productions are bound to happen. And we are going to talk about these disastrous, never ending, and sometimes dangerous productions. From the creators of WTF Happened To This Movie?, It Was A Sh*t Show is a video essay/documentary/podcast series looking at some of your favorite films and tv shows, and why they were such a nightmare to make.
Chapters:
00:00 - Intro
00:35 - Holy Live Action Batman!
01:49 - Reimagining Batman with Frank Miller & Tim Burton
02:50 - The Fallout of Batman Returns
03:31 - Joel Schumacher’s Tenure at Bat
05:05 - Villains Up Next: Scarecrow & Harley Quinn
06:19 - Batman Unchained: Most Expensive Film Never Made
07:15 - Batman & Robin Kills the Franchise
09:12 - Batman Forever? The Dark Knight’s Unknown Future
09:58 - Batman Goes to Television
10:42 - Boaz Yakin Takes Batman Beyond
11:48 - The Poorly Titled Batman: DarKnight
12:48 - Making Bruce Wayne the Main Character
13:22 - Darren Aronofsky’s Batman: Year One
15:00 - A Nihilistic Unproducable Batman
16:13 - Alan Horn Revives Batman… and Superman
17:26 - Dumbing Down Batman vs Superman
18:43 - BvS Died So Catwoman Can Fail?
19:52 - Christopher Nolan Pitches Richard Donner’s Batman
21:17 - David Goyer Helps Flesh Out Batman’s Origin
23:15 - Christian Bale: Fatman
24:40 - Easy to Produce, Difficult to Market
26:15 - Batman Begins Releases June 15, 2005
Sources:
Batman On Film: bit.ly/3NWMQBd
Box Office Mojo: bit.ly/38AWkBS
Crave Online: bit.ly/3xbWwBC
Empire: bit.ly/3r9w33Z
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Hollywood Reporter: bit.ly/38AaKCi
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IndieWire: bit.ly/3DMWJN7
LA Times: bit.ly/3r8YMWL
MTV: bit.ly/3ji5bKE
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Rotten Tomatoes: bit.ly/3jfFpHe
Superman Vs Hollywood: bit.ly/3v0ebtl
Tales From Development Hell: bit.ly/3v5GV4d
Variety: bit.ly/3DXSAWM
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Vice: bit.ly/3DSsUdP
Featured Footage:
American Psycho (2000)
The Aviator (2004)
Batman (1943)
Batman (1966-1968)
Batman: The Movie (1966)
Batman (1989)
Batman Returns (1992)*
Batman: The Animated Series (1992-1995)
Batman: Mask of the Phantasm (1993)
Batman Forever (1995)
Batman & Robin (1997)*
Batman Beyond (1999-2001)
Batman Beyond: Return of the Joker (2000)
Batman Begins (2005)*
Batman: The Brave and the Bold (2008-2011)
Batman: Year One (2011)
Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice (2016)
Batman: Hush (2019)
The Batman (2022)
Casino Royale (2006)
Catwoman (2004)
The Dark Knight (2008)*
The Dark Knight Rises (2012)
Face/Off (1997)
Harley Quinn (2019- )
Insomnia (2002)
The Iron Giant (1999)
Iron Man (2008)
Joker (2019)
The LEGO Movie (2014)
The LEGO Batman Movie (2017)
The Machinist (2004)
Masterpiece: Frank Miller's the Dark Knight Returns (2013)
Pi (1998)
Rise of the Planet of the Apes (2011)
Se7en (1995)
Superman Returns (2006)
Troy (2004)*
*and special features
College Humor
Graham Norton Show
Hey U Guys
IGN
Music:
Danny Elfman - Batman OST
Elliot Goldenthal - Batman Forever/Batman & Robin OST
Hans Zimmer & James Newton Howard - Batman Begins/The Dark Knight OST
Hans Zimmer - The Dark Knight Rises OST
Hans Zimmer & Junkie XL - Batman v Superman OST
Kristopher Carter - Batman Beyond OST
Neal Hefti - Batman Theme
Ryan Hudson - Sh*t Show Theme
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@playlistpenguin Жыл бұрын
This was a really great video. Well put together and perfect editing! Makes me want to have a Batman movie marathon.
@ItWasAShtShow Жыл бұрын
Thank you! I love it when someone points out the editing.
@HalfdanMCMX 10 ай бұрын
It's impossible to get through Batman & Robin.
@anmolrajdev6126 10 ай бұрын
Yes i had to rewind to make sense of it all
@wolfrainexxx 10 ай бұрын
Dragonball Evolution was the worst movie ever made.
@jackrussell3084 9 ай бұрын
80s kid here. Not really, I was like, okay cool.
@d.maxwell8669 2 жыл бұрын
This proves that Batman's greatest villain has and always been Warner Brothers.
@Launchpad05 2 жыл бұрын
And their sister, Dot.
@Gideon13397 2 жыл бұрын
@@Launchpad05 Also a certain drug addict.
@Indigo_Boi757 2 жыл бұрын
@@Launchpad05 tiny, toony and all a little loony Your comment made me laugh so hard I spat out my tea 😂
@Thespeedrap 2 жыл бұрын
Tell me how?Warner has a better studios than Marvel which is owned by Disney 😝
@Gideon13397 2 жыл бұрын
@@Thespeedrap Now what brought that up? 🤨
@davidradford9417 2 жыл бұрын
The interview clips with Joel Schumacher really help me gain a new respect for him. He OWNS everything, apologizes, takes responsibility, and realizes his mistakes. That's a class act.
@ItWasAShtShow 2 жыл бұрын
100% agree!
@Kiyosuki 2 жыл бұрын
Same with George Clooney, I remember the old legend that he'd offer people a refund personally if they approached him on the street saying they watched Batman and Robin in theater.
@davidjames579 2 жыл бұрын
RIP Joel. A great film-maker and a lovely guy (I've spoken to people who worked for him and they've said that).
@Jaydogg222 2 жыл бұрын
I mean to be honest he's actually a really good filmmaker and made some really dark films that NO batman movie has touched yet. 8mm and Falling Down are really good.
@xc4676 2 жыл бұрын
That's how it is with the director's commentary for the movie, too
@danielnewton2390 Жыл бұрын
Having grown up with “Batman Begins” I cant imagine experiencing the shift from the 90’s Batman movies to the Nolan series.
@Sctn187 10 ай бұрын
Jack Nicolson's joker will always be my favorite
@Nalopotato 10 ай бұрын
Oh it was wild. It really was a whole new thing. It's almost like the old 90s films didnt exist anymore. Batman was truly reborn
@seen921 10 ай бұрын
Having gone through the early Batmans … Batman Begins was life-saving.
@ryanhare8919 10 ай бұрын
Michael Keaton was my first batman
@gregbors8364 10 ай бұрын
@@ryanhare8919You never forget your first Batman
@forgetthisuser3338 Жыл бұрын
To be honest, my fav part in begins was the equipment explanations and introductions, especially with Morgan freeman
@harryscarry6064 Жыл бұрын
Me too. I always wondered how they organized all that stuff. Really scratched an itch for me.
@pretends2know 10 ай бұрын
Morgan Freeman makes everything great to listen to. The Lego Movie proved it when they made Morgan Freeman read from a phone book.
@gustaf3811 7 ай бұрын
The only problem I can find with Begins is that they dont make Batman much of a detective story and he comes off as pretty damn smart but not a genius sadly like in the comics but its still a great movie and I loved it as a child.
@PhantomFilmAustralia 7 ай бұрын
Morgan freeman said that he never does commercials to sell products, as people tend to believe him. This was one case where I bought everything he sold on screen.
@colhunt76 7 ай бұрын
Among other aspects, it makes the entire premise seem plausible. The strength of Nolan's Batman was that it seemed as if it could actually happen, especially Dark Knight.
@Jay-qh6uv 2 жыл бұрын
Joel Schumacher seems like a shockingly genuine guy. The fact that he said that he can’t fingerpoint or blame anyone else for losing control of his project to money grabbers because he was a full grown adult with agency and should have been better is like…crazy big of him, especially because it would be anyone’s first instinct to be extremely defensive with how much hate he gets. And then apologizing for any fans of Batman Forever and saying he didn’t intend to let them down is also pretty big of him. I’ve never actually heard him speak on it, only ever hearing people criticize him and his work. I was definitely expecting a way bigger douche from hearing all that, so it was nice to see how genuine he was in that interview. He may be a miserable asshole outside of those clips, I dunno, can’t judge someone from a clip that short. But it was surprising and stood out to me how humble he seemed there.
@AveenFernando Жыл бұрын
4:24
@hallu7477 Жыл бұрын
My thoughts exactly!
@piperian3962 Жыл бұрын
He’s actually a pretty good director too. I love Phonebooth.
@avnub66 Жыл бұрын
@@piperian3962 Falling Down is brilliant too
@Icetea-2000 Жыл бұрын
@@avnub66 Wait he made falling down? Oh shit that’s great
@hawkeyeplerce5238 2 жыл бұрын
Clint Eastwood as an old Bruce Wayne in a Cyberpunk, Rated R, Batman Beyond movie written by Paul Dini and directed by Yakim actually sounds fucking sick.
@ZelphTheWebmancer 2 жыл бұрын
I would kill to see that
@matthewrenault7839 2 жыл бұрын
They already made a decision on who old batman is going to be. It is going to be Michael Keaton.
@dragons12375 2 жыл бұрын
@@matthewrenault7839 source?
@matthewrenault7839 2 жыл бұрын
@@dragons12375 easy by looking it up. He is suppose to play old batman in Flashpoint and has signed up for the batman beyond series on HBO max.
@Ayyyoooo16 2 жыл бұрын
@@matthewrenault7839 it’s the batgirl series, not Batman beyond. That was never announced at all
@ayvamason3448 Жыл бұрын
“Created in 1939 by Bill Finger, and only named by a complete fraud” Instant respect
@anthonycameronnajera8471 Жыл бұрын
It's not right to disrespect Bob Kane though. Let's give everyone involved in the creation of Batman and his Rogues Gallery respect.
@MrOctober44 11 ай бұрын
@@anthonycameronnajera8471 No. He got way too much credit in the first place
@omegashinra7672 10 ай бұрын
Interesting that people don't react the same way with Stan Lee, despite him doing almost exactly the same thing on a much, much larger scale.
@ayvamason3448 10 ай бұрын
@@omegashinra7672 i mean, yeah that’s a totally valid point. Granted, my fairly limited comic knowledge is almost entirely limited to DC, but as far as I’m aware Stan had bit more creativity and integrity than Bob did in his time. Feel free to correct me though, I’m only fairly new to the in depth comic world.
@MorganEdgy 10 ай бұрын
@@anthonycameronnajera8471 no
@buntyskb Жыл бұрын
Nolan's Batman Trilogy is an all time classic and game changer in the superhero genre.
@HunterMagunter Жыл бұрын
Game changer in the worst way, now we've got every director and studio still attempting to make "dark" and "realistic" versions of colorful comic book characters so they can capitalize of the sheep like you that have seen a total of 16 movies, calling shit like the dark knight a game changer is beyond laughable
@gregbors8364 10 ай бұрын
…and the DCU has tried to replicate its dark and edgy tone, and has failed every time since
@damianpatterson9363 10 ай бұрын
@gregbors8364 Because they don't understand that tone is not the end all/be all of filmmaking. Different characters require different tone, but what matters most of all is story and character. Nolan's Batman had both in spades.
@dinospumoni5611 10 ай бұрын
they make the MCU look like a joke
@babyymilo 9 ай бұрын
Masterpiece
@Steve_P_B 2 жыл бұрын
Bruce Timm's animated series is the perfect adaptation, the evidence of this is the fact that Kevin Conroy and Mark Hamill have continued to be cast in their iconic roles as Batman/Bruce Wayne and Joker for decades afterwards
@Branchofsin 2 жыл бұрын
Facts
@gitarboi6760 2 жыл бұрын
True Story
@joogullae3456 2 жыл бұрын
Mask of the Phantasm is arguably the best Batman movie period
@Steve_P_B 2 жыл бұрын
@@joogullae3456 and it was effectively a movie length Batman the animated series episode, like Batman & Mr. Freeze: SubZero, right down to the exact same voice cast.
@Nightman221k 2 жыл бұрын
I think it’s amazing and a classic but it’s not something that I could say was flawless. The BTAS characterizations were often great but at times they definitely had drawbacks. Catwoman having Batman arrest her in her first adventure was a huge mistake (it made her eternally disadvantaged as she had to deal with the world knowing her secret identity limiting the freedom her character normally has). Nightwing was too brooding and sulky with little in common with the comic Tern Titans leader who enjoyed working with other heroes and whose relationship with Bruce is less strained (and I’m not even touching the love triangle bullshit that Bruce Timm forced in). Harley never had ANY real lasting character growth despite being focused on a lot. Bane was effectively Rupert Thorne’s goon rather than a criminal mastermind in his own right with physical and mental strength. But I will say that the good far outweighs the bad with BTAS and the DCAU.
@howie3601 2 жыл бұрын
God, Nick Cage as Scarecrow would've been a sight to see. Jim Carrey and Nic Cage both being Batman villains in the same universe.
@Thespeedrap 2 жыл бұрын
That would've been believable insane.
@josay3394 Жыл бұрын
He'd make a good Clayface
@iranam1004 Жыл бұрын
I don't think the world could handle them both in the same movie. Their combined forces would make a second big bang
@MikeAltogether Жыл бұрын
I think it's important to mention two films that made Batman Begins even possible. Unbreakable showed that a superhero origin story could be a serious film drama. X-men from 2002 showed that comic movies could still do well at the box office.
@csansby1 Жыл бұрын
This is Blade erasure and I will not stand for it!
@danielandrew3833 10 ай бұрын
X-men is from 2000... X-men 2 from 2003.
@le_meme_man8983 10 ай бұрын
Spooder-Man was 2002
@donhartfield 5 ай бұрын
X-men tried first, but Spider-man ultimately proved what happens when you do something *right* and just stick to the guns of the source material and just give the people a solid story and good acting. Batman Begins was simply DC's version of this. And for those that mentioned Blade... naw son. Blade movies were bad. REAL bad.
@Beavis-ej3ny Жыл бұрын
I like how Chris Nolan proved that darkness doesn’t come from violence, Batman doesn’t need to be an R rated violent bloodbath. I respect Nolan for that a lot.
@stephenwise 2 жыл бұрын
Very good video. As one of the co-writers of the unfortunately named “Batman DarKnight”, I appreciate you including it in the history. A few details were not quite accurate, but it got the gist of what happened. I’ll be following your channel.
@ItWasAShtShow 2 жыл бұрын
Whoa! If this is really you, I would love to pick your brain about the whole situation. If not... I've always wanted to be catfished!
@6omni6draconian6 2 жыл бұрын
Yooooooo
@CallMe6 2 жыл бұрын
"where's Rachel. " Was my favorite line . Did you help with this? Because if yes Ily 🤟
@MandatoryFruit 2 жыл бұрын
Ayo? That's crazy
@christianbjorck816 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah the kind of glossed over the 70’s with Denny O’Neils ”back-to-the-roots” Batman which was well over 10 years before the overrated Dark Knight Returns, and it was that version that is the definition of Batman. The animated series leaned heavily on that run. And the whole ”comics were for kids” wasn’t really true even in the 30’s and 40’s - adults read comics and loads of comics were shipped to soldiers overseas. When Marvels glory years was, during the late 60’s, it was a mixture of kids and adults that read comics. Hell adults started reading more in the 70’s when Batman returned to his roots and Marvel had Daredevil on it’s high point. Dark Knight Returns in turn feels much more cartoony and silly than Batman in his regular runs around that time. Mostly due to the extreme edgelordness of the writing and fundamental misunderstanding of who both Batman and Supes are. It certainly has done more damage than good to the characters portrayals over the years. I’d argue much more than Adam Wests did.
@haydenlane9600 2 жыл бұрын
A core memory of mine was my dad coming home from work early so he could take me to see Batman Begins in the theaters. I was 12/13 at the time and my family had a hardcore "no TV on school nights" policy so it was a big deal for him to do this, but he knew how hyped I was for it to come out. At the scene where Bruce is on the plane with Alfred he leans over to me and goes "I am really digging this movie". To this day it's one of my favorite memories of going to the movies. Years later he and I went to see Justice League and I noticed a father and son (son looked about 12/13) in line as well and the son was wearing a superman t-shirt, I couldn't help but think they were about to create a similar memory for themselves.
@ozzythemenace 2 жыл бұрын
This is so damn wholesome
@mikedanielespeja6128 2 жыл бұрын
halfway through I thought you were gonna say you were about to get a superhero origin story. Thank goodness that wasn't the case.
@4am446 2 жыл бұрын
:)
@ShadowMentor 2 жыл бұрын
too bad they went to see justice league and not a good movie tho
@dawb86 2 жыл бұрын
@@ShadowMentor LOL, it was a great story but ended in tragedy..... 😂
@razzle1964 Жыл бұрын
I’d forgotten that ‘Dark Knight’ was 2008. I took my daughter, then barely 10yrs old, to see it at the cinema. Her favourite scene? “wanna see a magic trick?” … she loves that bit, bless ‘er.
@SPIDEREMMAN Жыл бұрын
Who doesn't love That scene! 👀😀
@artxhema2844 Жыл бұрын
You took your 10 year old to watch dark knight? Come on dawg
@Logan-qi4nx Жыл бұрын
That’s a tough girl. Frankly, that scene made me flinch as a kid.
@razzle1964 Жыл бұрын
@@artxhema2844 Yeah, I hear ya. But, I remember begging my folks to let me stay up late for ‘Hammer House of Horror’ as an 11yr old (back in ‘75) and grew up on Omen, Evil Dead, Fri 13th, Hallowe’en, etc. My daughter’s now 25 & worryingly well-adjusted. We’ve enjoyed watching the likes of both High School Musical AND Texas Chain Massacre in the past. (I even took her to see ‘Attack of the Clones’ when she was 4, I think - I’ll have to check. She was thoroughly bored!)
@851995STARGATE Жыл бұрын
@@artxhema2844 imagine a kid knowing the difference from a movie and real life. Retard level commenting
@ViceKnIghtTA 3 ай бұрын
14:54 "Warner countered with Freddie Prince Jr.!" ... "Aaronofsky quickly realized he and the studio would never see eye to eye" LMAO 😂😂😂
@jacktyler3492 2 жыл бұрын
You have to feel for Joel Shumacher. He did as he was told by Warner Bros and made films that will market to kids and sell merch. But he never seemed to get the respect back from fans until around the time of his death it seems, because other than the Batman films, he was a great director. Falling Down is one of my all-time favourites.
@VeerMaharaj 2 жыл бұрын
That's what Zack Snyder did for superman as well. He made what Warner asked for. Then Warner threw him under the bus. I see a pattern here.
@eddielong8663 Жыл бұрын
I'm not so sure if his filmography is all that great TBH. He's made more than just one bad movie, i'd say. With that said, 'Phonebooth' is one of his better ones, and one of my personal favourites due to its unique bizzareness 🤨.
@rogermoreno1152 Жыл бұрын
The Lost Boys was his best for me
@EricHamm Жыл бұрын
@@VeerMaharaj Zach Snyder can't write. He is a hack and should stick to directing only. He is as much to blame as WB.
@rockycuro7737 Жыл бұрын
@@VeerMaharaj Zack Snyder didn't make Superman kid friendly at all. He snapped someone's neck in the movie, not to mention that Zack Snyder writing for superman sucks.
@carlhita2602 2 жыл бұрын
To be honest.. for me, Batman is the James Bond of the DC World. 1. He’s got the gadgets 2. He has a famous high tech car 3. He’s a playboy, he dated a lot of women.. Talia, Lois, Black Canary, Wonder Woman and Catwoman etc. 4. Master of Mixed Martial Arts 5. Numerous of Actors played Batman just like James Bond
@mew10521 2 жыл бұрын
Hmmm wow
@gibbs615 2 жыл бұрын
Only difference is he's not balanced in persona as James Bond always was.
@ItWasAShtShow 2 жыл бұрын
6) And each generation has their version of Batman in their mind.
@carlhita2602 2 жыл бұрын
@@ItWasAShtShow Yes. Yes.
@KingShibe 2 жыл бұрын
He's not rich anymore and barely has anything
@puzzledpuddle9778 9 ай бұрын
"the darkness would come from conflict not violence" is a great quote!
@nakfoor1846 2 ай бұрын
Something that Snyder didnt get.
@evanlitvak2234 Жыл бұрын
seeing batman and robin at the age of 9 in theatres was a magical experience. joel, dont apologize for my childhood
@mrfake675 Жыл бұрын
That was me for batman forever. Good times
@gtube6913 Жыл бұрын
I can watch it now as an adult n somehow be entertained. Obviously i know what kind of movie it is, n the acting is ...not acting. It's almost like a parody now. It's like a rare symbolic sign of the times like a limited edition coin thats rusted but worthless. Only those who picked one up n held onto it can appreciate what it once was.
@shailonnoelle7175 Жыл бұрын
I saw it twice and got all the toys so he did his job well. I loved it
@voodoochildrox Жыл бұрын
I feel the same exact way my friend
@themonsterunderyourbed9408 9 ай бұрын
Nostalgia is a hell of a drug. What you said is the equivalent of "I ate 💩 as a kid and now I love eating 💩! Thank you for feeding me 💩 as a kid!"
@savagedameron1075 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t blame Clooney. I think if given the right script he could’ve killed it. Especially as an older more brutal Batman.
@nestorsifuentesaguirre2722 Жыл бұрын
This does not convince me that he might have deserved to be Wayne from Batman Beyond
@standard1703 Жыл бұрын
Clooney definitely has the face for Bruce Wayne and looks killer in a Batman suit, which especially makes it a shame that he might never get the chance to wear the cowl again
@standard1703 Жыл бұрын
@@nestorsifuentesaguirre2722 "deserved", huh
@Tethloach1 Жыл бұрын
It was decent, good movie, a bit of fun.
@StudMacher96 Жыл бұрын
Batman and Robin is like PS1 Lego Batman
@avationmusic 2 жыл бұрын
Hear me out, okay, but the Batcard actually makes sense. Like what if Batman does actually need to buy something while he's out & about. His normal card would reveal his identity. I guess he could use cash, which is also fitting for him considering that oldddd iconic Justice League episode where he gives superman cash for his birthday 😂
@mew10521 2 жыл бұрын
Hmmm I guess you're right; it makes sense since you put it that way
@ItWasAShtShow 2 жыл бұрын
You got me. I stand corrected!
@bluesound666 2 жыл бұрын
Suddenly I'm thinking how the batcard is made, is batman going to the bank or some financial company own by Wayne provide it. Or maybe Gotham City issued an unlimited card for Batman 🤔
@avationmusic 2 жыл бұрын
@@bluesound666 i like the last theory 😂
@XTR02 2 жыл бұрын
I didn’t think of it this way. I never thought Batman would need to buy anything while he’s out but sometimes there may be a thing or two on the occasion that you need but you don’t have handy.
@godstomper 10 ай бұрын
I remember seeing The Nolan Batman in 2005. I had zero knowledge of a reboot at the time and was asked on a date to go see it. I was blown away by it.
@maxdecphoenix 10 күн бұрын
yea idk where he got that 'the studio went to efforts to promote it as a reboot' because I watched that entire film thinking it was a prequel. it wasn't until it was out on DVD that i realized oh man, this was a reboot.
@katalysis 2 жыл бұрын
This video shows us just how Warner Bros meddles with the creative process from a position of incompetence. WB should not own these properties.
@dutchvonrichardson 2 жыл бұрын
Fuckin eh right. Jude Law? Joaquin Phoenix (for anyone other than Joker??!!)? Colin Farrell? Josh Hartnett? What’s next Robert Pattinson?
@outsidelookinginprod Жыл бұрын
@@dutchvonrichardson Joaquin Phoenix was actually Darren Aronofsky idea; Warner Bros wanted Freddie Prinze Jr. And from what I read, Josh Hartnett was one of Christopher Nolan's first choices, but Hartnett turned him down. Oh wait, that last line makes me realize I may have misunderstood
@SeekerLancer Жыл бұрын
I don't think WB will ever sell off DC if only for Batman and Superman alone.
@qweqqweq2090 Жыл бұрын
well, with the Michael keeton Batman they got really good at cross merchandising and marketing. at the time they seemed invincible, but in retrospect, pride cometh before a big fall.
@kyotheman69 Жыл бұрын
with discovery hope this is no longer the case
@MEBoisv 2 жыл бұрын
25:25 A few years before Batman Begins the word "reboot" was actually extremely common, largely because of the horror genre.
@adamcrain8913 2 жыл бұрын
Oh yea, I think Texas Chainsaw Massacre was one of the first reboots that made 13 year old me aware of that trend back then, and then it just kept going...and going...and going...and going.
@chatochafa130 2 жыл бұрын
@@adamcrain8913 I was also around 13 when I realized it. I kept watching The Amazing Spider-Man (2012) trailer saying “why are they calling that Andrew Garfield guy Peter? That’s not supposed to be Peter Parker.” And I watched Hulk (2008) a bunch of times saying “that’s weird that there’s another Bruce Banner. Guess there’s two hulks. Wonder when they’ll meet.”
@matthewstephenson3537 2 жыл бұрын
I remember A nightmare on Elm Street was not well reviewed, with what’s his name hot off the success of watchmen
@MisterRlGHT 2 жыл бұрын
Boots to Reboots is the finest series on KZfaq, a criminally underappreciated jewel -- if you haven't seen the Andys in action, you're seriously missing out. I am not kidding.
@tomwells8093 2 жыл бұрын
It was actually Charlie's Angels back in 2000 that started this whole trend. That was a huge hit and starred all women. Mainly because they realised they could base a film off a known older property and have it be profitable. Also means less advertising because its an established brand. Beginning of the end!
@CinematicMaj Жыл бұрын
I love Batman Begins, I remember seeing it in theaters and loving the way Gordon and Batman worked together in the climax
@kylonintendo 8 ай бұрын
Created by Bill Finger is the absolute best opening to any Batman video ever made. Very well done, but you absolutely had me at respecting the real creator.
@MambaBreezy24 Жыл бұрын
Even though it wasn't his fault that his version was poorly written. You gotta appreciate Clooney for being open and apologizing for his portrayal of Batman.
@jackrussell3084 9 ай бұрын
Dude I don't think he gave a flying f tbh.
@MickMcGarnackle 6 ай бұрын
Clooney is still the best Bruce Wayne so far, though. He nailed the charm and charisma and self-assurance that define BW.
@brianpark2564 6 ай бұрын
@@MickMcGarnackle i like clooney but billionaires most often don't have charm when they aren't self-made. a more wealthy, i-do-what-i-want/cold attitude is something that bale absolutely nails on the head, and the- i can get everything i want except the girl leaves you interested in what happens next
@MickMcGarnackle 6 ай бұрын
@@brianpark2564 That's what makes Bale such a perfect young Bruce. Clooney is more like Bruce in his 30s, more experienced at reading people and laying on the charm.
@S31Syntax 2 жыл бұрын
"Does it come in black" was such a lovely line
@chasebanks940 10 ай бұрын
The line from batman begins when hes speaking to alfred about why he dresses like batman is so simplistic straight to the point and badass. no whining or long told explanation. nolan is on another fuckin level
@Aivottaja Жыл бұрын
I already like this video because it begins by naming the actual creator of Batman.
@gsofficial Жыл бұрын
I absolutely HATED the idea of Batman Beyond - there's a new Batman, and he's a character we just made up, and it's THE FUTURE! Then the show turned out to be an endlessly re-watchable masterpiece. What more can you say?
@Tethloach1 Жыл бұрын
I liked it.
@gsofficial Жыл бұрын
@@Tethloach1 So did I!
@ADreamingTraveler Жыл бұрын
I hated Batman Beyond when I was a kid and didn't give it a chance. I really need to go back and actually watch it
@LundinSebastian Жыл бұрын
Lolwat then it might be time for me to watch it. Always rejected it. Love the Animated series from the 90's though.
@gsofficial Жыл бұрын
@@LundinSebastian nah, don't bother. Life is pointless.
@SeekerLancer Жыл бұрын
It's funny how far audiences have come. From being possibly confused by the concept of a reboot to telling multiverse stories with characters from different continuities interacting.
@BarrySlisk Жыл бұрын
I think the studios underestimates their audience.
@cancanjaker1620 4 ай бұрын
I don't think audience are ever "confused by the concept of reboot". They are just sick of rewatching the same stuffs again and again, and studio executives just reword it as "audiences get confused by reboots" to the higher management to stop them keep pressing the reboot button on every show.
@joshuapatrick682 6 ай бұрын
everyone knows the perfect ending to the trilogy was Alfred sitting down ordering his Fernet-Branca and looking around only to stop, and as a smile crosses his lips he nods. Everyone heard him tell Bruce the story so I think it stands to reason that everyone would know what he saw and since he was the emotional backbone of the series it's evident important, he gets the final shot of the film.
@NASkeywest Жыл бұрын
It never ceases to amaze me…the incompetence of major studios dropping the ball. It’s like these corporate suits are so out of touch with cinema, art, and the human race.
@shawngay5253 2 жыл бұрын
I love how he gave Bill Finger the credit he deserved.
@ItWasAShtShow 2 жыл бұрын
Damn right!
@richardrichard688 2 жыл бұрын
@@ItWasAShtShow Bill Finger was to Bob Kane and Batman what Steve Dikto was to Stan Lee and Spider-Man.
@Ironclad17 2 жыл бұрын
Bob Kane fingered Bill Fucker.
@civilwarfare101 2 жыл бұрын
Who DOESN'T hate Bob Kane at this point?
@LiveHedgehog 2 жыл бұрын
He also gave [collaborator who only came up with a name] the credit he deserved too!
@ARuiz-eu3hk 2 жыл бұрын
Wow. Even Schumacher wanted to do a serious batman movie too with the dark knight returns in mind. That speaks volumes right there.
@ItWasAShtShow 2 жыл бұрын
Doing the research for this video, I came away with a lot of respect for Joel Schumacher.
@colliric 2 жыл бұрын
@@ItWasAShtShow Personally I'm still disappointed Warner Bros can't see it in their hearts to release Batman Forever: The Original Cut. The 170 minute edit sounds darker and more fascinating. Especially the so called "Man-Bat Red Diary scene" where Bruce remembers who he is.
@ItWasAShtShow 2 жыл бұрын
All those scenes are online. No amount of "darker" Bruce stuff would have changed the absolute insanity Carrey and Jones were doing.
@colliric 2 жыл бұрын
@@ItWasAShtShow Nonetheless I still want to see the cut anyway because those scenes actually looked they would significantly improve the film, and there was more that still hasn't been released. Paramount Pictures just released the 4K version of the 2000 director's cut of "Star Trek: The Motion Picture" and that movie's Theatrical version was far worse than Batman Forever was, but the director's cut turned out to be the complete opposite and amazing, and they've even gone back and recreated the effects shots in 4K now. If Paramount can do that after so many decades, there's no reason for Warner Bros not to restore and let us see the Batman Forever Original darker 170 minute cut.
@Thespeedrap 2 жыл бұрын
I wish Schmacher had scrapped Batman and Robin movie from existence.We could had seen the DC universe started early.🤔😄
@Cheesefist Жыл бұрын
Even tho Schumacher didn’t make the best batman movies, he is such a nice guy that I still love and miss him so much. May he rest in peace
@canaisyoung3601 10 ай бұрын
And, hey, he actually apologized and took responsibility for what he'd done. Most directors would either pretend it never happened, blame someone else, or gloss over it.
@WesleyWilkins-qf2ky 3 ай бұрын
Yeah. Just made them a bit too fruity
@Prince.Claveria 10 ай бұрын
My grand uncle used to work as the props guy and as the pyrotechnican in the Batman and Robin movie, and he said it was the best and fun movie he ever worked in. He also said Joel Schumacher was the most kind and understanding director he ever met. But the toys director/producers are kinda strict. As the former props guy, he said they were very specific and careful when it comes to shooting the vehicles. Because most of the vehicles are made up of cheap metal supported by pipes and woods and it can easily get dent when it got hit. Understandably, so they can sell more toys from the movie. It was all fun and games and celebrated after the release of the first week of the movie, until the 2-3 weeks it kinda bomb 😂 Great video man keep up the good work!
@alec6358 2 жыл бұрын
The Arkham games are the only ones to make a truly great and semi believable Batman and Batman universe come to life with the video game adaptation and they are expertly done. Truly great work put into it
@KEN-1991 2 жыл бұрын
The Arkham games also featured the best-looking Bat-suit out of most versions where the live-action actors can barely turn their heads in the mask.
@ItWasAShtShow 2 жыл бұрын
As an enormous BTAS fan, the Arkham games were probably the greatest version of the character (and Joker).
@stevewik2280 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed! Arkham Origins was especially awesome, seeing how they retroactively "set up" the other games and solidified the narratives. It was fascinating to see The Joker not really having any specific interest in the Bat at first, seeing him as a distraction to his current goals. I especially liked the little detail of the street thugs having no idea who Batman even was and saying things like "who are you? What do you want?? Why are you attacking me??" as he beats them into jelly.
@alec6358 2 жыл бұрын
@@stevewik2280 Arkham origins is underrated. People give it such a bad rep but the story and atmosphere are incredible and the combat is what we all know in love. You really can’t even tell another developer made it and even though it reuses assets it still does not get the credit it deserves. I will always have a bias towards Asylum since it was my first Batman but realistically the combat in origins is a better revamped version and I would argue the atmosphere especially setting of the origins rivals Asylum in very close fashion. I still like Asylum more but Origins is actually my second favorite in the series. I had so much fun with that game
@Kiyosuki 2 жыл бұрын
I dunno, the new film did a pretty good job of establishing a sort of believable Gotham City that's very true to the comics too imo.
@christianbjorck816 2 жыл бұрын
Fun fact about the Adam West show: Bill Finger wrote at least one episode. which technically makes it the most canonical of all the adaptions.
@ItWasAShtShow 2 жыл бұрын
I learned that as well in his documentary.
@captainjefferies9047 Жыл бұрын
Bob Kane was on the set as an advisor to the 89' Batman. That trumps his assistant.
@christianbjorck816 Жыл бұрын
@@captainjefferies9047 Bob Kane stole all the credit from Bill Finger, so him being on set for a movie means jack shit…
@captainjefferies9047 Жыл бұрын
@@christianbjorck816 He can't steel something from Finger that Finger never had. Kane invented Batman before Finger knew he existed. Bob Kane is the soul creator of Batman and he only worked on one movie.
@christianbjorck816 Жыл бұрын
@@captainjefferies9047 Incorrect. Kane only had a the shadow rip-off. Bill Finger created the suit, the gadgets, the supporting cast, the origin, the bat-cave, the batmobile, most of Batmans classic rouges and wrote the stories. He is the creator of Batman. Not the hack Bob Kane.
@miketrotman9720 Жыл бұрын
The '60s TV show was a letter-perfect rendition of Silver Age Batman, right down to the crazy camera angles. The most faithful adaptation of source material to this day.
@highcollector Жыл бұрын
I think you've got a point there. I mean it aged like milk, but it was perfect with the comics of that time.
@callsignfatbeard2637 11 ай бұрын
@@highcollectoryou gotta be kidding me. The 60s series is still hilarious to this day
@marocainforlife 10 ай бұрын
Ikr when he said that the producers probably never read a comic because they made the show slapstick irked me a bit. At the time Batman comics where just as silly and slapsticky as the show.
@TakusachiClips 4 ай бұрын
Really learned a lot about the history of Batman Cinema despite thinking myself a huge fan. However, the ending is really the best part of this video. Thank you for your work.
@vincentdawn9689 2 жыл бұрын
Just getting into it. Batman's popularity didn't continue to soar from the 40s to the 60s. The character had taken a serious hit in the 1950s and was basically on his way out before the 60s TV show revitalized his popularity. I think it's also fair to say that the 60s TV show is really not all that different from the Batman comics of the day. They were all incredibly silly and toothless and the thing the series did was make that funny and fun to watch instead of dumb. Batman fans should be grateful for the Adam West show because without its short-lived phenomenon, Batman comics might well have been canceled and the character forgotten. Of course, it is important to note that Julius Schwartz and Denny O'Neil had to again work to resurrect Batman's popularity and redefine him after the TV show ended.
@ajclements4627 2 жыл бұрын
The 60s show gave him a jump in popularity, the 70s gave us the Dark Knight before Frank Miller did.
@EronPlaysRocknRoll 2 жыл бұрын
Adam west will probably always be the only truly comic accurate Batman. He encompassed everything the character was in the 60's. They even lifted a few episode plots straight from the comics. I don't understand the hype around the dark knight returns. Sure its a good comic, but I think it's overexposed and given way too much credit. Batman started to darken up again in the 70's in the comics, it was slow but he was definitely returning to being a creature of the night. The dark night returns was by no means the first comic to do so.
@vincentdawn9689 2 жыл бұрын
@@EronPlaysRocknRoll TDKR is famous because of what it did with the comic form and its intelligent satire. Miller's art was incredibly unique for the time and the book's political commentary was seen as something unusually sharp and unexpected for the time. That Batman is depicted as dark and gritty and violent may be its most prevailing legacy, but that's not the only reason it deservedly became a huge landmark. You have to consider context before you say something is overrated or overexposed. This is a mainstream comic doing crazy stuff that you usually only saw in indie comics, that's why it became a big deal.
@reservoirfrogs2177 2 жыл бұрын
@@EronPlaysRocknRoll You'd have to be completely ignorant of comic books to not realize how revolutionary Dark Knight Returns was. Not just for Batman but Comics as a whole. Miller and Moore and the only reason any comics are counted amongst great literature
@TheWashTimesVideo 2 жыл бұрын
The character took a hit in the 50's because the entire comic industry was under attack by Dr. Frederick Wertham, a psychiatrist who wrote a book called the "Seduction of the Innocent" in 1954 , which alleged that comic books were a negative form of popular literature and a serious cause of juvenile delinquency. People took it seriously, so the Batman character and tangential characters became goofier.
@godchi1dvonsteuben770 2 жыл бұрын
The animated series was phenomenal. Even watching today, it holds up. All you have to do is watch the introductory sequence it to the mr. Freeze storyline, and you're instantly hooked. Mask of the Phantasm was also an excellent film. Not just an animated film, but an excellent film in general. The animated series is one of the greatest animated achievements of the modern era.
@rsr789 Жыл бұрын
Agreed. Also, some of the Animated movies that followed are excellent, like the two-part The Dark Knight Returns.
@directmiss 10 ай бұрын
I actually really like the chaotic, fast-cut fight sequences. I feel like that's what someone would experience actually fighting Batman. Just a few seconds of blurred movement and you're on the ground wondering why you feel like a truck just hit you.
@nithulnath9331 8 ай бұрын
I agree with you. But there's one more thing. Fight choreography was much better in Batman Begins, if you watch the fight scenes in slow-motion.
@heregoesfranklin5962 7 ай бұрын
@@nithulnath9331maybe I need to rewatch Begins… I recall the whole Nolan series looking like Tae Bo. I loved the Batman’s fight choreography because it really looked like he could fight. And they even implement moves from different fight styles.
@nithulnath9331 7 ай бұрын
@@heregoesfranklin5962 I really wished that the fight scenes on the sequels were also the same way
@godzillazfriction 7 ай бұрын
@@nithulnath9331ye the 2nd and the 3rd movie makes it seem like Batman is holding in his shit while fighting whereas the 1st one wasn't like that especially with its fast cuts that were done well and i also loved hoe brutal Batman Begins was... batman legit just made a criminal shoot his own foot... and Batman Begins had a very good art style especially Gotham itself and they seemed to completely deviate the art style in its sequel and onward
@nithulnath9331 7 ай бұрын
@@godzillazfriction I believe that the new suit was an issue. Because if we see the fight at the beginning of the dark knight with scarecrow and team, he's wearing the first suit and the fight was much more fast and vicious. The new suit was heavier by 4 kg of I'm right and I think it took away some of the movements because of the armour plates.
@insulinman14 5 ай бұрын
That guy that realizes he stumbled into the shot at 9:47 lmao
@HughMansonMD 2 жыл бұрын
Actually, the Bat-card scene is the only part of Batman & Robbin I unapologetically love lol
@KEN-1991 2 жыл бұрын
You mean that one scene where it made the Nostalgia Critic have a postal breakdown?
@DonkeyBoyVids 2 жыл бұрын
A lot of the jokes in Batman and Robin did not seem nearly as fun or enjoyable as those in the 1966 series, but that one feels like something Adam West's caped crusader would have said. It's amazing, but also disappointing, that they played it so tongue in cheek yet wouldn't go all out on the camp to match that classic series.
@MR.GOAT. 2 жыл бұрын
Well I mean nowadays the jokes are really all those movies are good for. You can still have a great time with those movies. But there’s actually people who think they’re genuinely good movies
@madcracker8077 2 жыл бұрын
@@MR.GOAT. yeah, and it’s sad
@WhatUlookingat357 2 жыл бұрын
This makes me appreciate batman begins even more
@ebscoHOSTpub 9 ай бұрын
What is lost in a lot of the Batman movie franchise lore is that Michael Keaton was a comedian before the movies and a lot of ppl didnt get how he fit into a superhero like the batmans.
@jeffkardosjr.3825 2 ай бұрын
So Seinfeld could have been Superman?
@Pariah_Larry Жыл бұрын
Pi is an amazing film. I believe he made “Requiem for a dream” too. Super underrated artist!
@zyphil 6 ай бұрын
Darren Aronofsky isn't an underrated artist at all. He's one of the most prestigious directors and writers in all of cinema.
@jackhammer5912 2 жыл бұрын
I remember being a kid and watching this film feeling so respected as an audience member. It had big words and discussions about justice, corruption, class, fear, and all being delivered very seriously, everything in it felt so much bigger than the movie and the characters. I didn’t understand shit obviously, but it felt really great watching somethig that was always looked down as for kids interpreted with so with such importance, and it wasn’t just me, Nolan and Goyer clearly put a lot of thought in the themes and the story they put on screen. Also I always felt that it portrayed the character as if it was desconstructing an urban myth, with the comics being a mythologized version of something that really happened and the movie showing what inspired all of it. This is why the batmobile wasn’t an enhanced car with a paint job and some bat ornaments, but a tank that served particular purposes, the bat suit was made of kevlar instead of it being a pijama, the reason behind the bat being chosen as a symbol, etc.
@amuroray9115 2 жыл бұрын
Making the Batmobile an actual tank doesn’t really feel like a Batmobile anymore
@Szujhinzu 2 жыл бұрын
Tanky, jumping, barricade-ramming batmobile with rockets is exactly the thing a guy like Batman should use. It's way more usable than just a tuned up car with a rocket engine, when his targets try to lose and outmaneouver him, block his way etc. With just a fast batmobile the movie has to rely more on plot devices like a car transporter that shows up just in time to allow him to jump up the barricade, when Tumbler just smashes it to pieces or jumps over it, because it's purpose is to be able to do such things.
@dylanamaral1663 2 жыл бұрын
Wow… what a bummer we never got the “Hard R” Batman Beyond movie with Clint Eastwood as Bruce… just wow
@coreaccount4376 2 жыл бұрын
I would have loved to see a Batman in the style of Sin City.
@corningt0n 2 жыл бұрын
Would've loved to see a batman constantly saying the N word with a hard R
@rover5058 Жыл бұрын
@@corningt0n That would be the best movie ever
@birdofhermes6838 10 ай бұрын
11:51 K was clearly meant to be used as a start and stop but if D-A-R-K was written horizontally then the K-N-I-G-H-T vertically it would've made sense a lil bit maybe.
@jack5590 Жыл бұрын
I gotta say, the editing in this video is great. Awesome content.
@realycooldude94 2 жыл бұрын
Man i would love a live a action batman beyond movie , basically if you combine spiderman homecoming and blade runner 2049 you get the basic elements for a beyond movie
@goku8621 2 жыл бұрын
I’m really surprised they haven’t done it yet Terry’s Batman is very Spider-man ish and with a cyberpunk setting it would sell like crazy
@metalmorticia1 2 жыл бұрын
I honestly don't know why Warner bros hasn't just focused on a batman universe instead of trying to copy Disney & marvel,
@adrienveidt419 Жыл бұрын
Basically, How Nolan saved Batman, WB and also revolutionated modern cinema.
@missouriresole4726 Жыл бұрын
If Batman it's what it's today it's thanks to Nolan. WB should be forever grateful for what he did for them
@danielduncan6806 Жыл бұрын
If by "revolutionized" you mean destroyed it. Then sure.
@NA1c158 11 ай бұрын
The dark knight changed the game. Begins was serviceable, but not best of all time. Rises is good for a third sequel, and it was profitable, and memorable, but not as good as dark knight. All the prestige is from that film.
@jugo1944 10 ай бұрын
It didn't need to be saved from Batman Returns. That's by far my favorite Batman movie
@leeham6230 8 ай бұрын
I don't understand how Nolan can make an awesome film like The Dark Knight, then go and make the shittiest movies of all time (Oppenheimer, Dunkirk, that other shit one). Especially Oppenheimer.
@bernardifilms6084 9 ай бұрын
You put a ton of time and effort into making this. Really awesome stuff.
@ItWasAShtShow 9 ай бұрын
Thank you for noticing!
@madhousenetwork7765 8 ай бұрын
The Dark Knight Rises was a great film too. it provided a great end to the trilogy, though the making of it was a little rushed towards the end.
@Chroles 2 жыл бұрын
the production of this video was absolutely nuts, deserves more subs
@ItWasAShtShow 2 жыл бұрын
No kidding! Who do we need to talk to about that?!
@RickDistance 2 жыл бұрын
@@ItWasAShtShow How long did it take to make this video?
@ItWasAShtShow 2 жыл бұрын
@@RickDistance I'm really bad at tracking that, but I'd say around 100 hours (researching to editing).
@RickDistance 2 жыл бұрын
@@ItWasAShtShow 100 ÷ 24 = 4 days. You sleep 8 hours? 16 hours a day. 6 days. 8 hours a day 12 days. Two weeks, right?
@ItWasAShtShow 2 жыл бұрын
@@RickDistance Two weeks x Full Time Job (carry the laziness) = months +-
@natevirtual 2 жыл бұрын
I respect Joel Schumacher for apologizing. May he rest in peace.
@nestorsifuentesaguirre2722 Жыл бұрын
@M M He actually "owed" the world for his mistakes
@ironmac10 5 ай бұрын
Thank you SSSSOOOO MUCH for giving Bill Finger the credit he so richly deserves. I used to argue to support Bill finger way back in the 90s. Before the internet, but people just said Bob Kane and called me a fool. Good job sir.
@billybussey 11 ай бұрын
I didn't know you had this whole other set of videos. These are truly entertaining. Bravo my friend!
@MarquisdeSuave 2 жыл бұрын
The Joel Schumacher films were basically a meta parody of the excesses of Hollywood action films during the 90's. Everything was overproduced from the costumes to the sets to the characters to the performances. Both films were almost like a 2 hour SNL sketch
@dalyoneaston8830 Жыл бұрын
Exactly what happened to Love and Thunder
@shawndalequianzon9144 2 жыл бұрын
I love this video so much, you pointed out basically the history of Batman cinema in such a clear and immersive way. I’ve never saw this side of Batman’s journey on the big screen and now I appreciate it so much more. From the pitch of Chris Nolan, filming on Iceland as the ice was just about to melt, the batmobile jump and train crash is actually real like holy moly I’ve never seen this on the bts of Batman begins. This is truly the perfect video about the birth, fall, and rise of Batman. Everyday I find reasons to appreciate the caped crusader even more, and this video adds up to that. Earned yourself a subscriber!
@ItWasAShtShow 2 жыл бұрын
Ah, thanks! Glad you enjoyed it!
@DA11AZ 2 жыл бұрын
He missed Batman v Superman and The Batman
@hunterkiller1440 4 ай бұрын
I've always assumed Alfred meeting Bruce in the French cafe was just his fantasy and he choose he accept this fantasy so he'll feel better.
@tiagoribeiro885 Жыл бұрын
Great video. These flicks were masterpieces and took Batman to another level.
@shinbakihanma2749 Жыл бұрын
I always forget George Clooney played Bruce Wayne. The craziest thing is that he was the closest in theme to a big budget, then contemporary version of the 1960s Batman show.
@ethankillion786 2 жыл бұрын
Matt Reeves' “The Batman” succeeds in all aspects from direction, story and acting, and it provides a strong foundation for a new DC comics continuity. The film is the best film of the year thus far as well as one of the greatest comic book films ever made.
@prajwaljayaraj5887 2 жыл бұрын
I agree a hundred percent
@streetlawyer 2 жыл бұрын
Nah, Reeve's was so obsessed with recreating the cinema of his youth, that he completely forgot about batman. Batman is a mopey ass, fucking sadsack in that movie. The true Batman works through his trauma and becomes spiritually superhuman. Reeves batman does not
@prajwaljayaraj5887 2 жыл бұрын
@@streetlawyer Btman was a mopey ass sad sack in every fucking adaption ever what are you talking about? There is no 'true' Batman, Grant Morrison's adaption of Batman isn't an objective tmeplate every creator has to use, there's such a thing in storytelling called a character arc and that's what Reeves was constructing.
@streetlawyer 2 жыл бұрын
@@prajwaljayaraj5887 it's interesting that you mentioned grant Morrison's batman, cause I was referencing batman comics generally. I agree with everything you said, but i wasn't saying that there is a one true adaptation of batman that every director should follow. I'm saying that Reeve's thinks batman is Kurt Cobain and Travis Bickle, instead of the mythic, spiritually tempered mythic hero that he always was, wether it's Morrison or Scott Snyder, or Denny O'Neil, or bill finger. That's the mistake Reeve's made. He misinterpreted batman as a cynical, damned, depressed, film noir protagonist. Batman is part of the superhero milieu, which means his mind and ethics are superhuman, which means that Reeve's needlessly violent and depressed is at odds with most of batman's history in comics and film. You can be dark without being nihilistic. Reeves missed that
@streetlawyer 2 жыл бұрын
@@prajwaljayaraj5887 btw, batman wasnt mopey and depressed in every iteration. He's more often portrayed as obsessed. But given the fact that he's deriving great spiritual meaning and significance in everything that he does, from exercising and dieting well, to meditating, to philanthropy and above all helping people and making his city a better place, sad Bruce makes less and less sense
@christianmalick Жыл бұрын
Christopher Nolan's version in my opinion is one of the greatest, most epic sequences of movies ever, and I don't even watch super hero movies...
@thattroy 11 ай бұрын
I just saw this vid has hit over two million reviews, so just dropped in to say congratulations on your well deserved success. Keep the hits coming!
@ItWasAShtShow 11 ай бұрын
Crazy right?
@MynameisBrianZX 2 жыл бұрын
3:50 It was nice of you to mention that Schumacher wanted to make a darker adaptation since he pretty much refuses to pass the buck for all the goofiness in Batman and Robin. Even if any adaptation would have his obvious flair, Batman Forever did show glimpses of how Schumacher would pull off a dark Batman
@Yikes702 2 жыл бұрын
Too bad Schumacher wanted to make a gritty movie AFTER he drove off Keaton by saying, "Why does everything have to be so dark?" Smh.
@WantSomeWhiskey818 2 жыл бұрын
When I saw this in my recommended, I had no idea that it was gonna be this well edited, written, and voiced. When I saw your subcount, I was flabbergasted. This stuff is amazing and you deserve thousands of subs, you're doing great work! Keep it up!
@ItWasAShtShow 2 жыл бұрын
Wow. Thank you! That means a lot. I'm glad you found us!
@supercooledits123 Жыл бұрын
bro was flabbergasted💀
@YOBAMUSTDIE 8 ай бұрын
I want part 2 of this video of how it gone from origin to rises and then turned into man if still and ended up as justice league and reboot of entire failed dc universe!!!
@petecorsgz 8 ай бұрын
This is a comprehensive and most enjoyable video i have ever seen. Thank you so much. The ending was hilarious! 😂😂😂
@ItWasAShtShow 8 ай бұрын
You're very welcome!
@eduardpeeterlemming Жыл бұрын
Nolan's Batman trilogy is cinematic masterpiece
@hamman_samuel Жыл бұрын
Except for the last one
@aaronchapa1117 Жыл бұрын
@@hamman_samuel it’s over hated
@kroneexe Жыл бұрын
I liked The Batman(2022) much better than the Nolan films. It instantly became my favorite batman movie.
@buntyskb Жыл бұрын
@@hamman_samuel Last one was a perfect end to the trilogy.
@buntyskb Жыл бұрын
@@kroneexe The Batman is not a game changer while Nolan's Batman Trilogy is a game changer.
@rome8180 Жыл бұрын
That Aronofsky adaptation sounds awesome. I guess it's cool that we eventually got a Travis Bickle-inspired Joker played by Joaquin Phoenix. But that's a little more predictable: you expect the Joker to be dark. It's more interesting if you give that story to Batman.
@yournamehere1935 6 ай бұрын
Bro!!! You instantly won a new sub with the flowers you gave to MISTER Milton "Bill" Finger and the finger you gave to that crook Robert Khan, alias "Bob Kane".
@brandonnewby178 Жыл бұрын
Me at 12:40: Waitwaitwaitwaitwait. ... Wait. Are you telling me the DC could have _preceded_ the MCU? With a properly fleshed out universe and everything?? That Batman and Robin truly ruined it all?!?!
@MegaMan-bs3oy 2 жыл бұрын
0:14 How could that not be considered the best shot of a live action Batman ever? I loved Ben's Batman as well but damn that looks dope af.
@RickDistance 2 жыл бұрын
The Forever One?
@marcosassari5603 Жыл бұрын
Because it's made by Snyder. If it was made by some other overrated/overhyped director, it would have been considered the best and get talked about by everyone.
@cement_eater Жыл бұрын
@@marcosassari5603 my guy, he is talking about the shot of Keaton. by Burton. 💀
@MagentaCartherWrites Жыл бұрын
FUN FACT: Lee Shapiro, one of the two screenwriters for the unmade DarKnight movie, was my screenwriting teacher at my film school! He told us that several scenes he and Stephen had written actually carried over in Christopher Nolan's "Batman Begins"... So freaking cool!
@ItWasAShtShow Жыл бұрын
Interesting that you say that, because of this video Stephen reached out and I interviewed both him and Lee. Sh*t Show Interview: Batman: DarKnight (Unproduced) kzfaq.info/get/bejne/grtndcRit8rXZIE.html
@MagentaCartherWrites Жыл бұрын
@@ItWasAShtShow That’s so awesome! I’ll check it out! 😄
@lunar33icious 10 ай бұрын
That was an excellent video, very well done!!
@Lowlight23 Ай бұрын
Great video! I loved the bit at the end too. 😂
@_i_would_rather_be_queen 2 жыл бұрын
Another awesome video! Thank you for all your hard work to give us such top notch content. Seriously the writing, editing, and research are fantastic. Your podcast is a blast too. Best wishes for both endeavors and can't wait to see what's next!
@ItWasAShtShow 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! These comments mean the world to us!
@Launchpad05 2 жыл бұрын
@@ItWasAShtShow You should've inserted The Nostalgia Critic's 'BAT CREDIt CARD' tirade.
@1God1Christ 2 жыл бұрын
I know we’ll never see Aronofsky’s year 1 but I thought the script was pretty cool and unique. I hope they make a graphic novel adaptation. I wouldn’t be surprised if Matt Reeves took inspiration from it.
@andrewdinh3180 Жыл бұрын
I love coming back to this video. Highly rewatchable and entertaining to see the history of Batman
@NCRRangerDan 11 ай бұрын
Nolan basically saved Batman bringing it into the modern day I’d say he also went and made one my personal favourite films ever made with Dark knight
@PrivateAckbar 2 жыл бұрын
I've always imagined Clint Eastwood playing Bruce Wayne in a Batman Beyond feature. It's such a self aware but tongue in cheek choice. It's the type of decision you could see Tarantino making. It's amazing to hear it almost happened. All your videos are really intelligent and interesting. Thanks for the work.
@ssppeeaarr Жыл бұрын
yeah sad the dude lost interest in it. batman beyond would have been cool to see in live action... my fav batsuit. and especially with clint as old bruce.
@sibral 2 жыл бұрын
Nice research! I missed George Miller's Justice League Mortal and the Sandy Collora's Batman Dead End (fan film), which in 2003 proved to Warner that a "realistic" Batman was entirely possible and profitable.
@younginfloe4437 Жыл бұрын
Great vid. Loved it
@LeftTownMedia 10 ай бұрын
Michael Keaton should've played Batman in Batman Forever. I understand why Tim Burton stepped down, but they shouldve got a director who would make a serious batman film whilst maintaining the dark tone of the previous two movies.
@Wezt334 Жыл бұрын
I love that so many people go to The Dark Knight Returns as the turning point of comics starting to use more mature and complex storylines yet forget that in actuality Spider-Man had already done that with the the night Gwen Stacey died, the first time a hero could not save their love interest as well as the dubious nature of whether the hero himself was responsible for the death or not. It was ground breaking and really was the turning point for more mature storytelling that still has effects on storylines today and came out 13 years before DKR.
@randallflagg3700 Жыл бұрын
Well yeah, but it wasn't a turning point, was it? For a dozen years, nothing happened, so it wasn't a turning point. TDKR is the one that quickly made "dark" comics inspired movies an opportunity, like Burton's duo.
@Wezt334 Жыл бұрын
@@randallflagg3700 I’m not saying it didn’t inspire those things but it wasn’t THE comic where everything changed, it simply reintroduced the idea of telling darker story’s for the late 80/90’s and helped bring about the ultra violence of the 90’s comic books as well as bring in new interest in comics. It’s influence on the industry is without question however TNGSD was the first comic to ever have the hero fail to save their love interest, resulting in both the title and the entire comic book industry in general writing far darker storylines for characters going forward and was in fact the turning point for comics. It made people realise comics were not just kids stories where heroes win and bad guys lose resulting in changes to the Comic Code Authority. If it hadn’t been for TNGSD we may never have gotten books like Dark Phoenix, Death of Superman & TDKR.
@Wezt334 Жыл бұрын
@@cactusmalone huh? I said people in general refer to TDKR as the turning point for comics not just Batman stories. Your the one stating (using the royal we) that it only applies to Batman comics and not comics overall. I never said it was complex at all and honestly you have no reference to make claims about my level of intelligence, though your misunderstanding gives rise to questions about yours
@verbalswagrawkey1932 Жыл бұрын
Came across this-here shit-show channel. I love how these mini-docs are so informative and way behind the scenes. Even when the doc is about a film that wasn't in my viewing wheelhouse I'm still captivated and still absorbing massive quantities of profound info. Finding this channel will allow me to kick my addiction to Sovereign Citizen videos. For that, I am truly grateful.
@ItWasAShtShow Жыл бұрын
Welcome! And enjoy!
@napoleonbonaparte1429 Жыл бұрын
The Nolanverse, the Arkham Series games, damn back in the 2000's was a good time.
@RobbietheMann1 Жыл бұрын
Such a good video thank you!
@100gecsrbetterthangod5 Жыл бұрын
Growing up, I genuinely loved the Schumacher Batman movies. As an adult, they are 100% a guilty pleasure. I normally hate campy batman, but I guess the strong association with my childhood is keeping it close to my heart until I die.
@ItWasAShtShow Жыл бұрын
As for a lot of us that grew with them…
@MajorMlgNoob Жыл бұрын
While not quite as bad that's how I am with the Star Wars Prequels
@randallflagg3700 Жыл бұрын
I also grew up with them, having seen both Forever & Batman and Robin in theaters ... my parents didn't take us to the cinema, but they knew how obsessed I was with Batman, constantly watching my collection of Batman:TAS and both Burton movies, so they knew it was a big deal. It was great as a kid, but now... I guess that even if I respect campy 1960 Batman, I'm not personally a huge fan. Then a miracle happened; in 2016 & 2018, DC released *Batman: Return of the Caped Crusaders* and *Batman vs. Two-Face* (which would be Adam West last role as Batman, the second movie released posthumously) and I really fell in love with this incarnation. If anyone out there is a huge Batfan but somehow thinks that the campy stuff wouldn't be their cup of tea, I really recommend those movies.
@jamesinhenley Жыл бұрын
How do you mean you "normally hate campy batman" if where a child when the Schumacher movie was release what is it you are referring to?
@randallflagg3700 Жыл бұрын
@@jamesinhenley - Probably Adam West & Burt Ward's Batman & Robin. I'm the same generation as him, and back then claiming to love the 1960's live action Batman show was not the done thing in most nerd circles. It only became cool in the last dozen years or so.
@DrMilad814 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for giving Bill Finger his dues. So glad to see him get widespread credit for his contributions
@darkartsdabbler2407 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for doing Bill Finger justice It's little things like this that make we want to subscribe to you guys all over again
@BrotherWitch 10 ай бұрын
Wonderful video. Admittedly my first real Batman experience was the 89 movie. Keaton is and always will be MY Batman.
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