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IWinToLose Gaming

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@daktonly
@daktonly 19 күн бұрын
MY BOY BILLY GOT HIS OWN RANK LETSSSSSSSSSS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO🗣🗣🗣🗣🗣🗣🗣
@Abremoch
@Abremoch 19 күн бұрын
lol
@connorpickup5272
@connorpickup5272 19 күн бұрын
Billy is the best character
@SuilongV3
@SuilongV3 19 күн бұрын
Billy has been the most fun playing tbh
@AkameshS
@AkameshS 19 күн бұрын
​@@SuilongV3 now that's a damn lie
@khoelindawati6716
@khoelindawati6716 19 күн бұрын
​@@AkameshSimma be honest. Kinda true but the dash basic attack is funny energy
@zendao7967
@zendao7967 19 күн бұрын
At this early stage of the game, it's more "use who you managed to get" than "use who you want".
@ThyFloorestFloor
@ThyFloorestFloor 19 күн бұрын
This, build with what you have for now, and be in the lookout for the archetype/play style that better suits you so you can start saving up to build that team.
@tabithal2977
@tabithal2977 19 күн бұрын
Unless you rerolled for your favorite...... 💀
@arian_motta
@arian_motta 19 күн бұрын
@@tabithal2977 I've actually done that. When I've reached 30 pulls I got Nekomata and shortly after Soldier 11. I didn't like any of those two while testing, so I've decided to start it all over with a new account. Now I got Lycaon and Soukaku. It's like my dream team !
@tabithal2977
@tabithal2977 19 күн бұрын
@arian_motta nice! I rerolled until I got nekomata, she's probably the only reason I'm playing zzz rn because hoyo hasn't made any other cat girls in genshin or star rail that aren't bad
@AnArtistInAVoid
@AnArtistInAVoid 19 күн бұрын
@@tabithal2977who needs to reroll when you’re so lucky that you just get your two favorite standard s rank characters almost instantly.
@Gurgio
@Gurgio 19 күн бұрын
12:10 Billy getting distracted by spraying and praying while a single trash mob ambushes him from behind is the most Billy thing
@CatzZz4
@CatzZz4 19 күн бұрын
I don't care if billy heals enemies im going to main him anyways 😭
@shachede6828
@shachede6828 19 күн бұрын
I didn’t know he heal enemies 😭
@hoppie4263
@hoppie4263 19 күн бұрын
He heals enimes?
@colinkirkpatrick5618
@colinkirkpatrick5618 19 күн бұрын
@@hoppie4263he doesn’t, they are saying even if he did they’d main him. He doesn’t so he is above their bar
@shachede6828
@shachede6828 19 күн бұрын
@@colinkirkpatrick5618 ohhh I see. I was afraid 😂
@lilypads3033
@lilypads3033 18 күн бұрын
​@@colinkirkpatrick5618and the OP also used a joke where usually if a character is so weak in a game you can mock them by saying they're healing the enemies instead of hurting them
@Simptuber
@Simptuber 19 күн бұрын
Bro is practicing his dad jokes with us
@Paradoxicallibility
@Paradoxicallibility 19 күн бұрын
Well.. he IS a dad.
@Simptuber
@Simptuber 19 күн бұрын
@@Paradoxicallibility that’s why i said that
@unknownincognito2425
@unknownincognito2425 19 күн бұрын
He's been doing that since genshin.
@Simptuber
@Simptuber 19 күн бұрын
@@unknownincognito2425 And I haven't commented that until now. What's your point?
@unknownincognito2425
@unknownincognito2425 19 күн бұрын
@@Simptuber well... That is my point, he's been doing that for a while now. I don't know why you're being hostile, i was just saying what's on my mind, same thing as you did.
@nam6282
@nam6282 19 күн бұрын
ZZZ honestly doesn’t deserve the hate. Game is pretty fun so far
@lenon3579ify
@lenon3579ify 19 күн бұрын
I haven't seen any hate on it so far 🤔 I'm loving it, btw, and I don't really like futuristic gun-based settings in general. Combat here is just too good
@alexzeng9833
@alexzeng9833 19 күн бұрын
It's got 3.3 stars only in Google Play, but it's because of phone compatibility issues, literally all negative reviews are people not able to play, which is unfortunate but wuwa had a worse release and recovered easily, ZZZ will be fine ​@@lenon3579ify
@sylvyboi
@sylvyboi 19 күн бұрын
​@@lenon3579ify tbh ive seen plenty, but most of it is just hate for the sake of hating
@kleefirestar
@kleefirestar 19 күн бұрын
People cry cause the combat isnt dmc tier apparently
@DrFrogglePhD
@DrFrogglePhD 19 күн бұрын
@@sylvyboi It's because it's a Gacha game which naturally have a ceiling for quality. Any game with predatory monetary systems are purposely developed incorrectly to encourage you to spend money. Basically, it's meant to be frustrating. That's the opposite of good game design. They're all like this.
@peachy_cat
@peachy_cat 19 күн бұрын
10:53 "For example, Nekomata benefits 🦆 assault is applied to the enemy"
@ctrl_walker5105
@ctrl_walker5105 19 күн бұрын
Im so glad u cover ZZZ this game deserve so much love
@OkSear
@OkSear 19 күн бұрын
nope
@sylvyboi
@sylvyboi 19 күн бұрын
it literally does tho
@funnyanime368
@funnyanime368 19 күн бұрын
TRUEEE
@SolaireOfToast
@SolaireOfToast 19 күн бұрын
This Game deserves fucking fixes. Like whut the fuck? Hoyoverse dropped all their development over the years and produced a game, as if this was their first one
@ayanokoji9608
@ayanokoji9608 19 күн бұрын
Unless you are playing on a phone 60 years behind the minimum specs, or you have a very specific situation, the game seems to function perfectly. ​@@SolaireOfToast
@tenchi2075
@tenchi2075 19 күн бұрын
I lost 50/50 for Ellen and now running, Lycoan, Soukaku, and Corin as a temporary unit. Such a fun team that works really well together
@rudozawa
@rudozawa 19 күн бұрын
The 1-2 punch of Lycaon/Soukaku is so, so strong. Allows you to just slap whatever DPS you want on the end of it and succeed.
@battlecubes4762
@battlecubes4762 19 күн бұрын
​@@rudozawa Thats disregarding a lot of factors in play, and downplaying how well corrin can dish out damage. For example, billy wouldn't fit in this team. Sub optimal damage, no synergy. Anton wouldn't either. No shock starters, no faction bonus. Same with Soldier 11 and Nekomata, for both reasons again. Corin however fits perfectly. Faction bonus included, and she just needs a good stunner to really pop off. Soukaku is nice for the extra support, but if this was any other team, she wouldn't be giving her faction bonus.
@GeneralAlatussy
@GeneralAlatussy 19 күн бұрын
sameeee, i'll just wait for my queen Miyabi
@FMA4EVERX3
@FMA4EVERX3 14 күн бұрын
Sammme 😂 my Lycaon is m2 now, Shokakou is m6 and Corin is m5... my best team right now ❤❤
@iznel9083
@iznel9083 19 күн бұрын
Lucy Nekomata Piper is such a effective team with great synergy with Lucy applying Nekomata all the quick assists she wants and Piper giving Assault stacks to Nekomata
@dzonb2191
@dzonb2191 19 күн бұрын
Literally my team right now.. seeing Lucy playing her bat hitting her pigs is satisfying 😂
@yvindvego9404
@yvindvego9404 19 күн бұрын
so triple loli team rocks?
@marcusshane
@marcusshane 19 күн бұрын
​@@yvindvego9404 Neko isn't exactly 'loli' but I guess shortstack team?
@eliblake-hb3by
@eliblake-hb3by 19 күн бұрын
@@yvindvego9404 Girl shut up.
@nicky4092
@nicky4092 19 күн бұрын
this is my 2nd team (1st is mono ice) and it works pretty well. Constant assault really fun to play
@dmonarch4668
@dmonarch4668 19 күн бұрын
8:00 with soukaku (and all characters actually) you don't have the wait for the whole animation to go through, you can press switch at the same time as her skill and you will switch while she will stay doing her banner thingy, enemies will keep targeting her too
@hellbounded2602
@hellbounded2602 16 күн бұрын
Sadly her buff transfer work only on quick assist (and chain) which requires her full animation to play.
@lanayuu
@lanayuu 19 күн бұрын
Billy is reason why i started playing this game at the first place, that is actually sad(
@44MagnumNA
@44MagnumNA 19 күн бұрын
I still use him on my teams, he's extremely fun. Makes me wish he was as good as Grace though lol
@Ariverfish
@Ariverfish 6 күн бұрын
Just build him lmao. I literally main him and he's really strong as a secondary burst dps with Corin, and he even out damages her. I have built every single A rank in the game (except Soukaku) and they all are pretty strong.
@Xgil2Play
@Xgil2Play 19 күн бұрын
S- Nicole, Anby, Billy A- B C- D- F- Dunno, don't have - every other character.
@NoWayToHell
@NoWayToHell 19 күн бұрын
You are so right. With the synergies between them, you can create an S tier team with players that people think are bad 😂
@cyco7229
@cyco7229 16 күн бұрын
yep, gacha has not been very kind to me but fortunately I like the Cunning Hares a lot tbqh
@augustocelsobommweiler9083
@augustocelsobommweiler9083 11 күн бұрын
Let's be real, no master how well made the list is, the majority of us are stuck with only cunning hares characters
@michaelferrell4869
@michaelferrell4869 19 күн бұрын
Corin will be an end game Goddess because of her crits, multipliers, and crit damage
@Geym1account-kj9cu
@Geym1account-kj9cu 19 күн бұрын
YESSS and maining her, I realize that she can also be an anomaly and a stunner on top of being an attacker! Damn i love using her!!
@l0st1nv0id
@l0st1nv0id 19 күн бұрын
Her damage is massive, the problem is she kinda needs enemy to stand still/be susceptible to hit stun. But she works veerry well with Lycaon, if you just use him to stun everyone and then swap to her to unload damage
@peacetea_life
@peacetea_life 19 күн бұрын
Exactly, I have both Nekomata and Lycaon on the same team and every single time Corin comes out on top for damage
@springcat9083
@springcat9083 18 күн бұрын
Corin is what Herta is in HSR, used to be considered a B-tier character, now demolishes all the hardest content in game. Proudly maining both from day 1.
@soundplayground3742
@soundplayground3742 16 күн бұрын
Yes, I'm rockin' Corin, Nicole, and Anby right now; they mesh well together. But I might swap out Anby for Ellen (or Grace) once I acquire them.
@kienmaple
@kienmaple 19 күн бұрын
Did you look at Billy's ult and chain attacks? They have some of the highest multiplier in the game. His chain attacks are higher than Neko and Soldier 11. His ult fully buffed is the highest in the game by a mile. The way to play him is to stack chain attacks and burst during short buff windows like Nicole's massive 40% Def shred for 3.5 seconds and Rina's pen that lasts like 6 seconds. If anyone has played Honkai Impact 3rd before, you'd know that being able to do your damage in such a short burst is very valuable due to how short buff windows are.
@undeniablySomeGuy
@undeniablySomeGuy 18 күн бұрын
now we wait for the "THIS CHANGES EVERYTHING" videos 🤝
@b1kopi
@b1kopi 17 күн бұрын
Yup, dont forget his team ability passive that giving add 50% for his ultimate stack 2x after his chain attack
@yunfi.630
@yunfi.630 19 күн бұрын
i'm very glad you factored in not just what the character provides to a team in a vacuum, but also how the existence of other character affects their placement too. thanks for the extra thought into your tierlists. really looking forward to how new characters will shake up the best characters right now.
@SirLexion
@SirLexion 19 күн бұрын
I personally really enjoy Corin as attack. Saw shredding stunned enemies is very satisfying. I use her with Von for easy stuns and Rina to buff Corin’s pen ratio and she quite literally shreds. Since everyone got her for free she is definitely an automatic swap over Billy.
@gym4379
@gym4379 19 күн бұрын
She is carrying me so hard ngl
@NeocrimsonX
@NeocrimsonX 11 күн бұрын
She has the bloodborne whirligig saw and that alone makes her amazing already.
@sponge563
@sponge563 19 күн бұрын
Thank you for this! Loving the game SO much
@Ray-ix7ik
@Ray-ix7ik 19 күн бұрын
Going here coz i couldn't decide which character to build 😢 (I love them all)
@mordsven
@mordsven 19 күн бұрын
Billy is that one character that you want to be fun to play and good at the same time, but it just doesn't happened
@ImrulHasan-0010
@ImrulHasan-0010 19 күн бұрын
love your tier lists
@Luchamasterfit
@Luchamasterfit 19 күн бұрын
I think the point of billy is to be a sort of sub dps. With is core passive buffing his ult damage by 100% making it get to like 8000% (imagine that with nicoles weapon and def shred granted it is an AoE) at the very last rank, his purpose may just be to swap in clear trash if its there stack that passive and swap to the actual DPS while also consuming the ults unless the main dps is sitting on a stronger one. Some bosses have flunkies that can really annoy the shit out of you or waste your time if you try to clear em so billy gives you back up. Likely running a double dps support team with your main DPS to the right of the support for the quick swaps. Its niche but I think he has potential. As for bear with koleda, his usefulness doesnt matter as he gives my girl a different ult animation. For teams you run it with the fire bat girl support. Koleda with Ben does enough damage from what I've seen once you factor in the Lucy's buffs and minions and his crit buff. Plus man she just perma stuns stuff if she is the main field hog. Reminder that bens crit buff transfers to the little boars through lucy's core passive.
@Keetoxx
@Keetoxx 19 күн бұрын
very interesting 🤔
@DefensiveBalloons
@DefensiveBalloons 18 күн бұрын
For me I been having a lot of fun with Ben, Koleda and Afton...idk how strong that team composition is, but it feels good enough.
@user-dh1qj5lx5q
@user-dh1qj5lx5q 19 күн бұрын
I love tier list videos so much. You should made a updated genshin tier list also. Yes, there are so many websites for tier lists but i wanna hear your opnion cuz it's gold for me
@yourworstnightmare1950
@yourworstnightmare1950 19 күн бұрын
Corrin is a very underated character and me personally. It's all about keeping the enemy in place. And you don't actually need a stun char to pair with her. If you can keep the enemy still corrin can actually fill up the daze bar very , very quickly. The strongest team I've managed to test right now for her is corrin , piper , and Rina. Rinas off field can actually stun in itself and can help super fill the daze bar. Piper acts as a support DPS to corrin while also helping her fill phys anomaly which corrin can also do on her own very quickly. Piper just makes it faster while also focusing damage to corrin. If you know how to play corrin and utilize her kit to the best she comes to par with the other s rank agents to a certain degree.
@gym4379
@gym4379 19 күн бұрын
Corin is carrying me so far I can't actually believe it I got Lycaon so am using him as a stunner but corin is a gigachad
@yourworstnightmare1950
@yourworstnightmare1950 19 күн бұрын
@@gym4379 I know right ? But the best part is you don't need a stunner. That's why from all of my testing as stated her best comp is with Rina and Piper.
@gym4379
@gym4379 19 күн бұрын
@@yourworstnightmare1950 i don't have both of those two characters 😭so corin will be my Ellen placeholder until she comes home
@ok10469
@ok10469 15 күн бұрын
Corin and piper are good but rina is just boring and way too passive
@darkraven5626
@darkraven5626 18 күн бұрын
What you said about tier list makers is very true lol. It's usually fun to listen to why they place characters in specific tiers, but at the same time they're not to be taken seriously. It's still, as you said, way too early to begin deciding who is good with who and who plays the best in specific settings since this game literally just came out mere days at the time of my comment and I'm still getting through the story myself.
@Zharque
@Zharque 19 күн бұрын
Was lucky enough to get Soldier 11, saving up for Lucy in the shop, gonna hurt my pulls for Ellen but it is what it is.
@DivRaj_120
@DivRaj_120 19 күн бұрын
Oh, I would like to give 50% of my lucy luck to you as I already have her and am ok with late mindscapes, hope you get lucy quick, I also got soldier 11😂
@Chromixxxx
@Chromixxxx 19 күн бұрын
Love the game so far can't wait for more comps and harder content to come out
@tomlong7619
@tomlong7619 19 күн бұрын
what am I doing here? watched the full video while didn't even play the game
@vex-3484
@vex-3484 19 күн бұрын
lmao
@X1erra
@X1erra 19 күн бұрын
Remember this is a very early game tier list; hyperinvest in your best attackers first. Ellen, and then possibly Corin, Anton, Billy, whoever can deal a ton of damage in the stun window is going to carry you. I don’t mean forget about everyone else though. Attackers should have 10 more levels and weapons than the rest after level 30
@KarasuChipsz
@KarasuChipsz 19 күн бұрын
ayo The GOAT Billy got his own tier lets goooo bois
@feeblemind
@feeblemind 17 күн бұрын
This was actually a good tierlist which is rare on KZfaq. I wish Billy was better he's super fun to play. I also think corrin is being slept on. Neko probably T0 with a few dupes but team comp is lacking. Right now I'm easy clearing everything with soldier/ben/Lucy haven't had anything remotely challenging that team yet at level 40
@frustratedsquirrel
@frustratedsquirrel 17 күн бұрын
Billy 'not hitting things' with his playstyle is an actual skill issue that shows you don't understand how to redirect his attack by moving in crouching fire stance...Does mastering it immediately make him a top-tier character? Not really, but it's not fair to list it as a negative if you aren't even playing the character properly. Billy's niche really is AoE support, but he can deal sustained single target damage as well, just not both at the same time. You would mainly want him on a team with Nekomata if you intend to build her around Assault proccing. So the team would look something like Neko > Billy > Piper (or Corin) Fundamentally disagree with Ben being ranked so low. He does a lot and his playstyle kind of trivializes a lot of the content because you only have to guard a single tick of damage in order to get the benefits of his special. Even on point, he has massive Aoe, burn anomaly buildup, decent damage and stun buildup. He's somewhat team-agnostic because everyone can benefit from crit rate and HP shield, but works really well with Soldier 11 or any other burn-inflicting unit.
@nde7816
@nde7816 19 күн бұрын
So you’re saying out of all the characters I have as of now, I don’t really have a good DPS to build? Okay good to know 😭👍
@yavnrh
@yavnrh 18 күн бұрын
Let's go! I've got Grace on my first account! 🥰
@wincity4090
@wincity4090 19 күн бұрын
Is it just the earlygame or I feel like there's a lot of aoe waves? Whenever I play theres always 3-4 enemies at the time so when I play single-target characrers4I always gets hit. Thats why Billy is my current main along with corin
@tungdohoang8197
@tungdohoang8197 19 күн бұрын
i have fun with Billy so far, such a great character design and gameplay. Hopefully he will get more love in the future.
@PMProut
@PMProut 19 күн бұрын
I happened to pull Lycaon at 50 in the standard banner, and also Soukakou copies from the limited banner, and Corin is the dps of that team, with Lycaon engaging and breaking, then Soukakou grouping and freezing them, and Corin making ice sculptures off them I really like her multi attacking normals, it triggers the crit rate increase on hit buff so easily in hollow zero, and I get the execute so often when I need to waveclear
@Zafaruss
@Zafaruss 3 күн бұрын
Oh how I can’t wait for how this ages
@leonardomoneta6084
@leonardomoneta6084 19 күн бұрын
I am LOVING LOVING this game my god
@ohreally6945
@ohreally6945 19 күн бұрын
Combat is flashy but thats it,its boring for me so i couldn't even play after the first boss
@scarterrence
@scarterrence 19 күн бұрын
​@@ohreally6945 was bro playing on 10 fps to drop the game so bad 😂😂😂
@ohreally6945
@ohreally6945 19 күн бұрын
@@scarterrence most of the fight is attack button mash,it even felt like just a long quick time sequence at some point
@setsuna7618
@setsuna7618 19 күн бұрын
@@ohreally6945 I agree with you. The game has little to offer, it's basically a slightly better version of HI3 that got reskin to grab the fans' money lmfao.
@wall-ehasagun2723
@wall-ehasagun2723 19 күн бұрын
​@@ohreally6945 you should watch some videos about this game's combat. Its pretty deep.
@jordanmntungwa3311
@jordanmntungwa3311 19 күн бұрын
I got Rina on the 'standard' banner (I'm still learning the right terminology) and I got Anton, SOkaku, Lucy and Billy in a single ten pull on the event banner and I got piper on a single pull as well. there's so many. I have never won so much before in one summons session
@KikoMakai
@KikoMakai 19 күн бұрын
Would love to see some sort of W engine guide. I am specifically curious if it's worth saving for the S ranks in the shop, thanks.
@gazblackheart4596
@gazblackheart4596 19 күн бұрын
I guess I am lucky to have pulled lycoan but I really wanted nekomata as her very fast roguelike playstyle has a nice feel to it.
@Tonebaited123
@Tonebaited123 19 күн бұрын
Yeah, her dodge play-style feels really good and satisfying
@MrGoodra17
@MrGoodra17 19 күн бұрын
If I don't get her within 300 pulls I'm choosing her for sure
@ghexaier
@ghexaier 15 күн бұрын
i thought she was very fun to play, but wasn't decided yet but the gacha decided everything for me. got her like in 40 pulls on standard. looking forward.
@spacecat278
@spacecat278 19 күн бұрын
I feel bad for Billy, I'm still gonna get around to building him someday when I get more resources just because of how cool his design is lol
@joey9424
@joey9424 19 күн бұрын
a video about zzz just before bedtime. Just what i needed to help me sleep, thank you.
@Levin_125
@Levin_125 19 күн бұрын
I was maining Lycaon just cause I love him but it makes me happy to hear he’s rlly strong too lol
@crackedsandwich
@crackedsandwich 19 күн бұрын
I have a mono physical team of nekomata, piper, and billy. It's really fun.
@scaramoche3131
@scaramoche3131 19 күн бұрын
That's a good tier list, almost same except with corin. Its random ass team but nicole, corin and lycoon are so fun to play
@bangbangtud
@bangbangtud 19 күн бұрын
With Billy, I just spam dodge/slide attack to hit everything. Benefit is that I rarely got hit, and I can clear mobs easily.
@tamathemaid7171
@tamathemaid7171 19 күн бұрын
Ngl, Corin feels like she’s a stunner in an attacker’s skin. Her attacks in my experience stack daze so fast, especially with how many hit points they have. Add this with her fast decimal gain, she’s a really good sub dps that can be a ult battery and I look forward to people finding out she’s actually good in a month’s time.
@4..x
@4..x 19 күн бұрын
tbh she really deals significant amounts of dmg, I play her along with lycaon/soukaku i even got neko’s sig for her game really wants me to main her and she slaps so hard, i found out that she also able to stagger enemies which is kinda interesting
@prstechnic1774
@prstechnic1774 16 күн бұрын
shes gonna be my next dps build so i can have a functional second team for shinyu defense.
@rudozawa
@rudozawa 19 күн бұрын
As soon as I saw Soukaku in T0 i know this was gonna be a good list
@chito2701
@chito2701 19 күн бұрын
i'm having fun playing LUCY, SOLDIER 11 and Ben.
@jsenger24
@jsenger24 19 күн бұрын
Any chance to get a video explaining the ins-and-outs of anomaly? I haven't been able to find a good video that covers more than just the basics. Love your content!
@jct0010
@jct0010 18 күн бұрын
anomaly very unexplored rn. similar to elemental reaction/mastery in genshin, we probably won't see it's highest potential in the current early state of the game
@bumerang6525
@bumerang6525 19 күн бұрын
waiting future videos already ❤
@yungglocc
@yungglocc 17 күн бұрын
im pretty sure billys crouch shot thing tracks if ur locked on. I've never experienced it missing while locking
@Saturday_Jones
@Saturday_Jones 19 күн бұрын
Having a blast playing Soldier 11. Except those rare occasions where I can’t seem to get the timing right for most of a battle.
@Flam3blast
@Flam3blast 18 күн бұрын
Started with Anby , Grace and Anton , gonna finish the game with them too :P
@naivet
@naivet 19 күн бұрын
I was planning on building the Ice team because that's my favorite element and now I discover that they are OP. nICE.
@Lemonpeppergoblin
@Lemonpeppergoblin 14 күн бұрын
Only just gotten around to playing yesterday and managed to get Ellen (who was a big reason for me wanting to try the game, love her design). Ended up with Soukaku dupes(m3, i think you can get a free copy also? So m4 i guess), and Lycoan was my standard 50 pull guarantee, so i kinda lucked out. I did actually really want to build a Koleda/Ben or Neko/Piper team but the only other 4 stars I've been getting are Soukaku, Billy and Anton.
@Hiroyuka00
@Hiroyuka00 19 күн бұрын
If you get to lv30 you get to play Zhu Yuan and ngl she seems fun to play aswell as strong
@lockekosta9014
@lockekosta9014 19 күн бұрын
I don't understand why people make individual tier lists based on unit synergies. Just make a full team comp tier list instead then because your final product is just flawed off the rip otherwise since it isn't actually about the individual characters.
@setsuna7618
@setsuna7618 19 күн бұрын
agreed. all these T0 or 0.5 is so damn lame lmao. We played hoyo ass games enough to know tier list shouldnt be judged in this way.
@alexket8403
@alexket8403 19 күн бұрын
These lists also get outdated very fast, literally as soon as any new character comes out. Maybe that's why they get made lol
@ruzgarozer8035
@ruzgarozer8035 19 күн бұрын
@@alexket8403yeah… for example Lycaon is a very good unit but also favored because the current best (and only limited) dps in the game is Ellen which is an ice unit. Koleda’s or Ben’s value could increase if they release a fire dps for example. Or Rina with an electric one.
@Shine3rection
@Shine3rection 19 күн бұрын
The ability to function on multiple teams though is an individual trait that should have weight in the discussion of how good a character is overall. If you take character X and they have an average DPS of 10k and can fit on 6 different teams to their full effect, but character Y has an average DPS of 12k, but can only work on 1 specific comp, then character X is a better character despite Y having a higher average DPS.
@ilangshot
@ilangshot 19 күн бұрын
I get what you're saying, you want a tier list that is unbiased towards any good team comps, but thats not very realistic especially this early in the game. Doing it not based on synergies leads to issues as well. Imagine if he said Nicole is T0 or T0.5 because she is the ONLY ether buffer in the game, and her field time is very low, and she groups enemies. BUT that doesn't matter, because she doesn't have a good team right now. If someone skips ahead or just doesn't listen to the explanations and tries to build her right now, they're not gonna complete the later contents until Zhu Yuan is out. Personally, I like the tier lists that take a realistic approach, where it tells you this character is good in this point in time, because this character exists, hence raising their value.
@SisterSophie-fq9jh
@SisterSophie-fq9jh 19 күн бұрын
factual! (i love ellen joe!)
@aarkwrite7240
@aarkwrite7240 19 күн бұрын
I finally got Ben yesterday. Waiting on Koleda. I got Nekomata as my first S
@DivRaj_120
@DivRaj_120 19 күн бұрын
I actually think that we should rather focus on team performance in teir lists instead of ranking individual characters, make a team with whom so ever they synergize with and put that team up the list, this will give f2ps an idea to how good their current characters can be with a specific other character instead of searching through the tier list for a good character that doesnt have synergy or a bad character that has insane synergy.
@izanagi2488
@izanagi2488 16 күн бұрын
I play Billy with movement. I don’t use Crouching Shot for too long because his strong shots are locked behind his neutral evade (the one where he just steps backwards) and second dash (pressing dash after the slide and shooting or pressing dash after the dash attack and then shooting again) and his Special EX shots.
@reece5634
@reece5634 12 күн бұрын
Got soldier and neko on my first 60 pulls on standard. Not sure if ima go for Ellen yet or wait for the next banner
@scherpebocht
@scherpebocht 19 күн бұрын
My Koleda is hitting like a truck without a good bangboo
@ericdissing
@ericdissing 12 күн бұрын
I used to play a game called Onmyoji Arena and I mained a character called Satori where her whole kit revolved around hitting baseballs and not missing and Lucy instantly became a fave of mine and I got lucky I pulled her all the way to 6 without spending too much.
@obbobo2317
@obbobo2317 19 күн бұрын
Funny little thing, I got Soukaku on my first pull ever, and then I got 4 got copies of her on the same 10 pull on the exclusive banner, but I don't have any other ice character, so she's pretty much just benched lol
@AltaMillia
@AltaMillia 15 күн бұрын
Both me and my sister pulled the wolf man first, she loves him most of the standard characters so it’s nice to see he isn’t cold garbage. Corin aside, pretty much all my favourite designs/playstyles are seemingly great as of now, so that’s cool. Time to build Lucy and exclusively use her until a five star summoner releases.
@attahmm2975
@attahmm2975 19 күн бұрын
YOOOO, so glad to see my girl Lucy on top spot I instantly fall in love with her the moment i saw her swinging bat and making home runs with the pigs XD
@Eldritchpi
@Eldritchpi 19 күн бұрын
I'm running Anby, Neko and Piper...this comp makes Neko a monster.
@M315K-x8n
@M315K-x8n 19 күн бұрын
Right now I am hoarding my pulls for Miyabi
@demiurge_n_dragons
@demiurge_n_dragons 17 күн бұрын
Ben is more akin to Beidou imo. His hyper armored counters can deal decent damage if you time it right.
@TheUchihaCub
@TheUchihaCub 19 күн бұрын
How serious is the endgame for Zero? Like do i actually need to build specifically or can i just do whatever? Cause im actually enjoying it a lot so far even though it’s so easy, and I wouldn’t mind paying more attention to team comp and builds if I had to. As of now I don’t see any reason to ever spend money, it’s really easy and there’s barely any characters.
@haruyanto8085
@haruyanto8085 19 күн бұрын
Endgame one shots
@jct0010
@jct0010 18 күн бұрын
it's useless to think of endgame rn since the game literally just came out like 3 days ago.... You can see the endgame of geshin, honkai impact and star rail and judge for yourself
@cyberpunkdarren
@cyberpunkdarren 19 күн бұрын
Doesn't Billy have a useful ranged DPS? Seems like
@HazZzel-
@HazZzel- 19 күн бұрын
I think people won't recognize his ranged DPS until they fully level him, and his crouch shot gets the max buffs it deserves
@HelloFellowMellowMarshmallow
@HelloFellowMellowMarshmallow 17 күн бұрын
Ben's counter gameplay is just too fun to pass up since it can also counter red flash attacks
@arian_motta
@arian_motta 19 күн бұрын
When I've reached 30 pulls I got Nekomata and shortly after Soldier 11. I didn't like any of those two while testing, so I've decided to start it all over with a new account. Now I got Lycaon and Soukaku. It's like my dream team !
@cyber_wiz
@cyber_wiz 19 күн бұрын
0:36 you know it's serious when he pulls out vs code and js to do the calculations
@sgf7647
@sgf7647 12 күн бұрын
The storm is approaching
@lirodmigueln.abastillas4834
@lirodmigueln.abastillas4834 17 күн бұрын
Billy main here And I got to say, he does some decent aoe damage
@cyco7229
@cyco7229 16 күн бұрын
I'm well into chapter 2 and still using the free characters the most
@Marryjanesbud
@Marryjanesbud 19 күн бұрын
Getting a WuWa ad before this is crazy Lmao
@noxk1992
@noxk1992 16 күн бұрын
It's funny because my first s rank is Lycaon, which is also my fav character when I saw ZZZ. Then yesterday I got Ellen because I got so many polychromes and the value of the 50% discount just can't be ignored. Rolled only 10 and got her XD (not the first roll tho but it was early)
@KatarMilak
@KatarMilak 17 күн бұрын
What about a possible electric team consisting of Anby, Grace and Anton?
@jonnevitu4979
@jonnevitu4979 19 күн бұрын
Im using Corin/Anby and Lucy and omg these three feel so good to play maaan also,lucy is a pyro xingqiu with a mini bennett sooo cool
@NFYT
@NFYT 19 күн бұрын
came here for soldier 11, hey, i want ellen so badly, but she's the coolest character imo over all of them, and i absolutely didn't knew you could time her attacks to always be fire hits, it adda another layer of skill which i love so much
@rayangelosalazar1563
@rayangelosalazar1563 19 күн бұрын
same honestly I wanted grace but I got soldier 11 and I thought she was poop but then well she's actually a decent fire damage dealer plus it's cool she can make her blade flame up with the right timing like a certain devil hunter named nero
@prstechnic1774
@prstechnic1774 16 күн бұрын
yea shes really cool, definitely the character with the highest skill cap
@JesuisArsenic
@JesuisArsenic 12 күн бұрын
I love Corin so much but I just need Ellen for my ice team to be complete. I got all the Shokaku dupes and two S rank Lycon. Never thought I'd see the day I'd be so into a gacha game 😅
@silverslash3616
@silverslash3616 19 күн бұрын
cool now make a bangboo tier list
@brainiac-cd2vh
@brainiac-cd2vh 19 күн бұрын
Ive been runing Rina, Anby, and Anton since im graceless, and honestly its putting inna lot of good work. Especially since i have C1S1. Im not mad about it at all, yknow. Immso glad 2 of my ssr's have been a dupe and a weapon. ANYWAY. Recommend above team its real fun
@marioritter7014
@marioritter7014 19 күн бұрын
Personally I think tierlists are less valuable in this game, because team synergy and their ability to chain is way more important. Doesn't matter if you fill your team with S and A ranks, if they can't chain, the team will be much weaker. Relic/data disk set synergy matters as well.
@emiya1986
@emiya1986 19 күн бұрын
0:45 nice music)
@smartkking4984
@smartkking4984 19 күн бұрын
i got lucky on soukaku got her upgrade to cinema 6 by just pulling ellen
@aye9449
@aye9449 19 күн бұрын
nice
@Andreas-lg9cl
@Andreas-lg9cl 19 күн бұрын
if you get to level 30 you can use zhu yuan as a trial character for a story quest she's not bad
@IvanksMW
@IvanksMW 14 күн бұрын
Piper with her unique W-Engine and some good physical Disks is pretty solid
@vincentluther685
@vincentluther685 18 күн бұрын
I was casually using the best team without even knowing lmao
@fourthrooster6708
@fourthrooster6708 13 күн бұрын
Currently my main team consists of ice dog, ice demon, and chainsaw maid I do have stray cat and arsonist but i dont know which one to choose because i dont have bear tamer just yet
@GuiltyKit
@GuiltyKit 14 күн бұрын
I appreciate that this list recognizes what a tier list is. It's how characters stack up against the current state of the game.
@Imjosh1996
@Imjosh1996 19 күн бұрын
I use Soukaku, Rina and Grace for the moment using Soukaku as main dps because she got so much screen time.
@itsalluck
@itsalluck 19 күн бұрын
It's a ride or die w Billy and the Hares for me ❤ mostly cuz i dont vibe w any other designs so far, and waiting for miyabi
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