IWS Inflated Wing Sails

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6 жыл бұрын

New vision for the future, inflatable boat sail. Revolutionary Invention of a Flying Wing Designer

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@hambamable
@hambamable 4 жыл бұрын
I did this exact thing for my Naval Architecture Thesis in 2009. Made a sail for a Laser. Sailed very differently with regards to a traditional sail, particularly downwind. Very cool how the mast on yours retracts also. Huge amount of labour to build the sail compared to a traditional sail.
@pioneer_1148
@pioneer_1148 Жыл бұрын
What's your opinion on them as the future? Obviously it's early days at the moment but do you think they'll replace normal sails? I can see a pretty huge advantage in the greater efficiency and lower centre of effort but it also looks like they come with a fair bit of additional complexity. Also is there any particular reason nobody fits a jib/genoa with them?
@cruzcarneiro
@cruzcarneiro Жыл бұрын
@@pioneer_1148 eu acho que é pq é como se já tivesse uma genoa integrada, o mastro fica no meio.
@peternicholsonu6090
@peternicholsonu6090 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely amazing no more rolling up with cone effect , wet, messy, mildew, is clean, replicates the wing it really is. Someone has finally gone beyond what we’ve been stuck with for centuries. Improved on “ the wheel”...
@KoldingDenmark
@KoldingDenmark 4 жыл бұрын
Simplicity is not the first that comes to mind, when I see this.
@jeromefaulle
@jeromefaulle 4 жыл бұрын
double sided junk rig, easy.
@alkaholic4848
@alkaholic4848 4 жыл бұрын
The first thing that comes to my mind is - punctures!
@joswaterreus4851
@joswaterreus4851 4 жыл бұрын
also efficiency should not be on that list...
@ericjohnson9468
@ericjohnson9468 3 жыл бұрын
I thought the same……as in “interesting … but what’s the gain?…” ‘Seems the CG might be higher with all that inflatable wing complexity.
@KoldingDenmark
@KoldingDenmark 3 жыл бұрын
@@ericjohnson9468 We often see large boats with in-mast or in-boom furling. Talked to one of them this summer. He told that he never has a summer where the in-boom furling does not fail. It would scare me to death if a saw big black clouds and stong winds ahead.
@billderinbaja3883
@billderinbaja3883 4 жыл бұрын
Starting Questions: (1) Weight penalty vs conventional high-tenacity dacron sail (2) Material? (3) WHEN there is an air leak, how is this addressed on the water. (4) Do the seams between these tubes provide better laminar airflow? (5) Cost vs conventional high-tenacity dacron sail (6) Flaking and stowing on the boom... looks challenging
@snorttroll4379
@snorttroll4379 6 ай бұрын
are you french or something?
@quillmaurer6563
@quillmaurer6563 5 жыл бұрын
I see several things here - would make sense to me to use this with a multihull rather than mono. I have to imagine that it would be heavier than a regular sail, so the wide platform of a multihull would be helpful for stability. Because of that huge inflated sail, if it were to capsize, that would prevent it from going "turtle," instead staying on it's side, which would also be helpful for a multihull that is difficult to right from turtle.
@RobbsHomemadeLife
@RobbsHomemadeLife 6 жыл бұрын
It is rare to see such an original design for sailing. big thumbs up!
@oneskydog4401
@oneskydog4401 4 жыл бұрын
Kinda like bird feather trailing edges hmm, oh in 1988 the Stanford America’s Cup defenders used a wing sail to kick ass on the Kiwi’s.
@user-kk3gl2lp5h
@user-kk3gl2lp5h 3 жыл бұрын
@@SimonWoodburyForget т
@paulneilson6117
@paulneilson6117 6 жыл бұрын
I was looking for a way to do this for my solar powered sailboat. This is the solution I was looking for. Thank you.
@kennethmkirschprofessional267
@kennethmkirschprofessional267 4 жыл бұрын
The “canvas” can do miracles, when I’m sailing! ⛵️
@RiggingDoctor
@RiggingDoctor 5 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of a butterfly wing inflating when they emerge from a cocoon Very cool!
@gremanuelli
@gremanuelli 6 жыл бұрын
Brilliant! Kit-surf a similar good example also as well some sky-diving wingsuits! 🙌👍
@atw98
@atw98 6 жыл бұрын
I absolutely love this. Amazing.
@slickrock1371
@slickrock1371 4 жыл бұрын
Now, combine the IWS with SBS (Sailing Booster System). I saw something similar to this in Woodenboat magazine about a West System wood hulled trimaran that saw speeds of 20+ knots. The sail could rotate 360 around the mast. (He used his sail to maneuver the harbor.) It's interesting to see the wing approach vs the umbrella (catching air) approach.
@tjonessc
@tjonessc 6 жыл бұрын
have to see how it handles reefed in a force 8 before I would ever go with such a radical design
@cowlevelcrypto2346
@cowlevelcrypto2346 2 жыл бұрын
Lots of drawbacks! Like for instance , you would totally miss all those lines and ropes everywhere. Totally not worth missing out on the challenge of getting de-masted going under a bridge. : /
@mikeneumann4660
@mikeneumann4660 4 жыл бұрын
Talk about a beautiful boat to sail.
@AlexanderKirkpatrick
@AlexanderKirkpatrick 4 жыл бұрын
interesting concept but one that I have a lot of questions about. 1) I see no rigging of any sort, so does that mean that there is a limit to amount of wind that set up can take? Can it take winds up to 20 knots and above? 2) What is the maintenance like if you get a tear in the sail? Does it come apart in sections or do you have to take the entire sail off to fix lets say a simple wear and tear hole? How easy is it to take the sail off? 3) Since there is no rigging for the mast that I can see, does the boat need extra support to be able to take the loads in the mast hole itself? Does the boat need to be re-enforced to be able to take the pressure this setup would put on the boat. 4) What are the overall benefits to this setup? Is it lighter, stronger, more efficient, does it capture more air somehow than a standard sail, what? 5) How much air do you need to fill up the sail? What extra gear does one need to make this set up work? 6) What is the sail material made of? What kind of life expectancy can we see with this material and overall setup? 7) I'm worried about the mast, it looks like it's made of individual collapsible4 components that make it able to rise and lower but my concern is the structural integrity of the mast itself, which goes hand in hand with my first question about limits of wind pressure it can take without rigging. 8) Is it cheaper than a standard rig? (probably not considering the radical design) 9) If one does get a leak and lose all air in the sail, can you still use the material as a conventional sail in the event of absolute air loss as a back up plan? (i'm talking about for those boats that have no radio or engines) 10) How practical is this at the end of the day, as a sailor and one who knows about sailors, we tend to be very practical people (with the exception of actually owning sailboats). Overall does this make any sense, and does it beat conventional setups in strength, utility, weight, maintenance, durability, ect? or is it just a fun idea with a bunch of limits? 11) Are there limit's to the size the sails can be? 12) How much weight can this sail handle, I have a Hudson Force 50 ketch that weighs a shit ton, would this sail design work well with my cruiser type boat? I kind of like this idea and it looks kind of cool, but if that's all it is then I have trouble with seeing the point of this design.
@aerobertj
@aerobertj Жыл бұрын
The reinforcement requirement is at least finite - the moment the mast can create is balanced by the ballast and crew and that's finite. I twigged that when I was making rigging fittings for my small (unballasted) dinghy - they only need be as strong as my weight and ability to hike out (plus a bit in reserve).
@hughrblackwell
@hughrblackwell 6 жыл бұрын
the genius of man. love it
@marcoticci
@marcoticci 4 жыл бұрын
Great idea!
@qatarsailor7727
@qatarsailor7727 4 жыл бұрын
I don't want to comment I just laugh when I saw how is your mast rise up 😂😂😂
@pforce9
@pforce9 4 жыл бұрын
I would liked to see more of how it raised and lowered and the basic structure.
@eacorion
@eacorion 4 жыл бұрын
Are you kidding me!! That's genius!!!!
@eastcoastsailingcenter7768
@eastcoastsailingcenter7768 4 ай бұрын
amazing! love to sail this
@MrRelaxedBrax
@MrRelaxedBrax 4 жыл бұрын
fabulous !
@bawean3w
@bawean3w 6 жыл бұрын
beautiful
@mikefule330
@mikefule330 6 жыл бұрын
Clever and elegant, but a big part of the fun of sailing is adjusting the tension on the sail to make it the ideal shape for the wind direction and strength. One obvious advantage is that if you capsize, the boat will never turn turtle.
@snorttroll4379
@snorttroll4379 6 ай бұрын
what do you mean
@mikefule330
@mikefule330 6 ай бұрын
@@snorttroll4379 Sorry, typo corrected. I wrote "sale" and meant "sail". If you sail with a conventional cloth sail, you can pull on various lines to adjust the shape of the sail to get the best performance. You can't do that with an inflated wing sail. However, the good news is, if you capsize (tip over) with an inflated sail, the boat will lie on its side instead of going all the way over. When a boat is completely inverted, that is called "turning turtle" because the bottom of the boat resembles a turtle's shell.
@snorttroll4379
@snorttroll4379 6 ай бұрын
ah. how could one design a flip over boat like the life boats. but for a sailboat? what is the design principle? wahat about a morphing wing and what about flaps like on a plane? for more lift. and what about a mast and keel that swings in the boat so younever tilt with the wind? can exaggerate the movement of the keel ballast with some geers so one stays upright@@mikefule330
@lonkow
@lonkow 6 жыл бұрын
Up to 20 knots... I can imagine what stronger wind could do with it
@SeanRhoadesChristopher
@SeanRhoadesChristopher 4 жыл бұрын
The Birds have you beat on this concept, but I love it that you are attempting to show us all, that someone had understanding for lift a long time ago, millions of years ago.
@CHMichael
@CHMichael 3 жыл бұрын
Finally I was thinking about this a while ago (with a mast)
@havesuccess
@havesuccess 6 жыл бұрын
Well Done!
@grilo1959
@grilo1959 5 жыл бұрын
super Idee auch für die Verwendung von Segeln für die Normale Schifffahrt!
@fCauneau
@fCauneau 6 жыл бұрын
Beautiful, and a great potential for better efficiency - compared with classical sails. This is the very first possibility to use true aerodynamic wing profiles for sailing. Congratulations !
@jasperasis5209
@jasperasis5209 6 жыл бұрын
François Cauneau ...not so... Wings work on high pressure system on the more concave side of the wing... Whereas the high pressure on any side of this inflatable sail is always convex, increasing the possibility of drag towards the leech of the sail...
@mallard3294
@mallard3294 6 жыл бұрын
Also it is not the first alternative to normal sails look at the Americas cup yachts
@LoanwordEggcorn
@LoanwordEggcorn 6 жыл бұрын
The America's cup boats were rigid wing sails. This is an inflatable one, which is a cool innovation.
@juicyair9774
@juicyair9774 6 жыл бұрын
This sail is not really effiecient though, i am sure a boat with regular sail of the same size would have gone a lot faster than the boat in the video.
@angelomonopoliroca523
@angelomonopoliroca523 6 жыл бұрын
totally agree
@kustomweb
@kustomweb 6 жыл бұрын
I don't even sail, but I want one
@openmind2161
@openmind2161 6 жыл бұрын
get a inflated bed
@hintzofcolorconcepts
@hintzofcolorconcepts 6 жыл бұрын
Make your own out of trash bags
@richardsmith7917
@richardsmith7917 4 жыл бұрын
All things have to pass through the three stages of truth 1. It is Ridiculed 2. Violently opposed 3. Finally scene as self evident, I like your idea very much!!
@terrysullivan1992
@terrysullivan1992 4 жыл бұрын
yes, but it is "seen".
@richardsmith7917
@richardsmith7917 4 жыл бұрын
@@terrysullivan1992 Thank you for the correction. I am an inventor that creates devices for people living with disorders. Would I be blunt to ask where you live and could you help? In your best capacity?
@techzombiechannel
@techzombiechannel 6 жыл бұрын
Love it🔥🔥🔥🔥
@venomguysydney
@venomguysydney 6 жыл бұрын
amazing
@russellhawkins366
@russellhawkins366 4 жыл бұрын
I love it.
@furlockfurli2719
@furlockfurli2719 4 жыл бұрын
Seagulls will love it.
@charliejeans2413
@charliejeans2413 4 жыл бұрын
Just need the sail to convert the sun into.useable electric at the same time. That would be a big leap.
@charliejeans2413
@charliejeans2413 4 жыл бұрын
@kev googlestein it's basically a paraglider sealed. There are wings sealed called the woopie or something like that. You can buy a hang glider looks exactly like this boat sail only you can fly it.
@hardtoimpress
@hardtoimpress 6 жыл бұрын
Very nice! What kind of boat is the hull taken from if I may ask?
@CapnSchep
@CapnSchep 4 жыл бұрын
Is there anyway to reef or reduce sail area/wing area ...?
@LUCKYWE
@LUCKYWE 4 жыл бұрын
진짜 좋은 아이디어네....날개단 요트... Good!!!!
@stian222
@stian222 5 жыл бұрын
I’d love to strip everything off my 30’ trimaran and just use one of these! Where can I get it? More info please.
@scottmcdonald3019
@scottmcdonald3019 6 жыл бұрын
Brilliant
@LongRun6.4
@LongRun6.4 Жыл бұрын
Nice shape.
@pedroforonda
@pedroforonda 4 жыл бұрын
When the boat sinks, one could hop on the sail and float away. Is it a sail? Is it a life raft? It’s neither, or may be it’s both.
@tedsmith6137
@tedsmith6137 6 жыл бұрын
So it has fans in the sail leading edge. Battery powered, I assume. So can you call for roadside assistance for a flat battery?
@ewantheboat
@ewantheboat 3 жыл бұрын
All I see here is added complexity hidden under the guise of an unstayed mast
@RustyAndroid
@RustyAndroid 4 жыл бұрын
This guy must have lungs of steel.
@jackflanagle6079
@jackflanagle6079 3 жыл бұрын
Nah, just a trusty bicycle pump.
@yeahwhatever1359
@yeahwhatever1359 6 жыл бұрын
Iws...irritable wing syndrome? Got my tongue hard though. Great idea.
@troothhertz6297
@troothhertz6297 6 ай бұрын
Gr8 idea. I would want my perfect yatch . A Big jet Cat with telescopic wing sail and kite sail.coverd in solar panels. Sides, roof etc hydrogen generator.
@krimm1450
@krimm1450 6 жыл бұрын
I like the design principle being simplicity, but i cant help but feel there might be drawbacks when compared to an original style sail? if so could anybody let me know? thanks!
@jamesdiserio4020
@jamesdiserio4020 Жыл бұрын
I heard Beneteau was planing to use this in on a catamaran in 2022. Is that true? When is a crusing application expected?
@Pellaeon159
@Pellaeon159 6 жыл бұрын
Pretty cool idea. Will stick to regular sails for a few years before this goes mainstream tho... something about this looks not "sailing" enough for me yet. (I Said yet, I understand how things evolve ok? )
@jamessuhr9667
@jamessuhr9667 6 жыл бұрын
Nice yacht.Would love one.Available in NZ?
@ManSingh-hu8ux
@ManSingh-hu8ux 6 жыл бұрын
How did he do the gybe?
@dazzlinlegend3922
@dazzlinlegend3922 5 жыл бұрын
Must need a decent pump and battery to inflate, wondering how to put in a single or double reef??
@B._Smith
@B._Smith 6 жыл бұрын
Can it be reefed for high wind safety?
@Matx5901
@Matx5901 4 жыл бұрын
Two small 100w fans maintain the shape of the sail with tiny pressure. The sail positions itself almost by itself, there is no tension to hold it in place. It works very well in heavy weather. It is not a competition sail. The boat is more stable than with a normal sail. It could well be a breakthrough invention. Check it out on their website inflatedwingsails.com/en.
@SolarizeYourLife
@SolarizeYourLife 5 жыл бұрын
What trickery do you evolve to get this done???🤔
@ben3989
@ben3989 4 жыл бұрын
Is it inflated by the apparent wind or pumped up and sealed like a balloon.
@seattledivingservices1433
@seattledivingservices1433 6 жыл бұрын
Perfect for the Puget Sound.
@freevue
@freevue 4 жыл бұрын
or Drake Passage ?
@KompletterGeist
@KompletterGeist 4 жыл бұрын
Needs cambers like on a windsurf sail that creates more shape in the sail to give it even more power
@bradkubota6968
@bradkubota6968 2 жыл бұрын
Still a huge improvement over the bedsheets on most sailboats.
@PESCADORDORIOSAOFRANCISCO1
@PESCADORDORIOSAOFRANCISCO1 6 жыл бұрын
E o preco?
@jcoghill2
@jcoghill2 4 жыл бұрын
What....No technical data? No manufacturer. I love the jibe. Now I have to play Sherlock Holmes and find out who made this. I'll be back.
@berealistic
@berealistic 3 жыл бұрын
that inventor deserves a round....
@Pellaeon159
@Pellaeon159 6 жыл бұрын
I just realized. How does this run down wind?? can it open and double the surface? that would be really cool :D
@mikegrant8490
@mikegrant8490 4 жыл бұрын
If it's inflatable, how can you go wing and wing?
@koninakonan1078
@koninakonan1078 4 жыл бұрын
Well shouldn't the canvas be filled with air to create forward push?
@FedericoLucchi
@FedericoLucchi 6 жыл бұрын
I've seen lots of adverts promoting how awesome the wing-sails are, yet I didn't see a proper review yet. In addition to costs, I can guess they have flaws... I'm not sure for example how performant that wing is going downwind...
@MeesterVegas
@MeesterVegas 6 жыл бұрын
you simply raise your inflatable spinaker
@crawdadyyt
@crawdadyyt 6 жыл бұрын
Exactly, like autopilot in the movie Airplane! kzfaq.info/get/bejne/lb2Bmb2Kxsmpcas.html
@LeCharles07
@LeCharles07 6 жыл бұрын
If your boat has low enough drag, you can go fast enough you're always sailing upwind. With that in mind sailing downwind is less of an issue. Check out en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apparent_wind#Apparent_wind_in_sailing and kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jKediMaDydfMmok.html
@index7787
@index7787 6 жыл бұрын
It likes hotter angles (duh, it's a flow sail) it does fine on broad reaches.
@stian222
@stian222 5 жыл бұрын
Or launch a kite like the trimaran in Water World. Yeah baby.
@richardyeomans3980
@richardyeomans3980 Жыл бұрын
Interesting concept. I wonder how it stands up to a bit of a blow. How about reefing? Can't see how that is possible.
@havesuccess
@havesuccess 6 жыл бұрын
He needs an inflatable life preserver ILP:)
@zakaroonetwork777
@zakaroonetwork777 6 жыл бұрын
Is it inflated by the wind or an air compressor?
@I3en397
@I3en397 6 жыл бұрын
what is the benefit?
@bztube888
@bztube888 6 жыл бұрын
How to trim it?
@lpabildgaard
@lpabildgaard 6 жыл бұрын
Now you only have to make it wing shaped.
@joelhouse7779
@joelhouse7779 6 жыл бұрын
Try it in a cat or tri and I'll believe. Seems the downwind would flatten which is the point. I'm interested!
@williamgrimberg7722
@williamgrimberg7722 4 жыл бұрын
Can lightning destroy this sail and could it be replaced easily?
@doncarlo5
@doncarlo5 6 жыл бұрын
eventually ... someone has done it ! Great ! this is the future
@allowmi
@allowmi 6 жыл бұрын
CGI was pretty good.
@svjaos
@svjaos 4 жыл бұрын
대박이다...
@movieklump
@movieklump 5 жыл бұрын
How do you reef?
@davidanderson6222
@davidanderson6222 5 жыл бұрын
They did this with a hang glider, why not, seems efficient
@drumbassik8458
@drumbassik8458 3 жыл бұрын
Нифуя се! Впервые такой парус вижу.
@mmmarccco
@mmmarccco 6 жыл бұрын
Looks a little bulky and ungainly when not inflated. Beautiful in use though, very nice!
@graemesydney38
@graemesydney38 6 жыл бұрын
I bet a puncture would be a real let down. Probably better in partnership with other propulsion - commercial freighters? Should be easy store, inflate, deflate and store remotely.
@Hyperious_in_the_air
@Hyperious_in_the_air 6 жыл бұрын
This is super smart. Was this designed by Paragliding engineers?
@cowlevelcrypto2346
@cowlevelcrypto2346 2 жыл бұрын
Actually, Michelin Tire Engineers are working on it with Sunseeker Yachts. (But they are probably not the only ones)
@w4nkel769
@w4nkel769 6 жыл бұрын
He driving it like Laser.
@ERIK31351
@ERIK31351 4 жыл бұрын
"Simplicity" ... You mean "Complexity"
@Danneleet
@Danneleet 4 жыл бұрын
It's a balloon, simply
@Septerrianin
@Septerrianin 4 жыл бұрын
@@Danneleet and before that just a towel was used
@eacorion
@eacorion 4 жыл бұрын
Do you know how complex it is to operate a normal sailing boat 😂
@eacorion
@eacorion 4 жыл бұрын
@@steveddad4385 still better than some Jib systems I have used, I assume. I have to try this.
@Mikelectric
@Mikelectric 6 жыл бұрын
does it have to be a black monolith
@hh6427
@hh6427 6 жыл бұрын
Cool concept. I race semi-professionally. Will be interesting to see if this takes off.
@fbrodeur44
@fbrodeur44 6 жыл бұрын
its obvious that this would not take off
@snorttroll4379
@snorttroll4379 6 ай бұрын
why@@fbrodeur44
@kurilladesign
@kurilladesign 5 жыл бұрын
what!!!!! wow
@erickessler6094
@erickessler6094 6 жыл бұрын
Very interesting sail features. Also... who made that hull? Very clean.
@buster6093
@buster6093 4 жыл бұрын
Why is this better than sails!?
@catsupchutney
@catsupchutney 6 жыл бұрын
There is no way that much fabric isn't at least triple the weight of a standard sail, and how to reef it in a storm?
@bradkubota6968
@bradkubota6968 2 жыл бұрын
I would think in a storm just have the mast shorter, which would likely be better than reefing and achieve same result.
@jacqueskruger6115
@jacqueskruger6115 6 жыл бұрын
What is the design or class of the actual boat? beautiful design
@pabloricardodetarragon2649
@pabloricardodetarragon2649 6 жыл бұрын
International 5.5
@GiladGur
@GiladGur 6 жыл бұрын
Without a jib, there is no Bernoulli channel. The sail matterial and the fact that it is thick prevent from fine tunning. So this boat will be slow and unefficient. But it looks fun for those who are not sailors...
@pabloricardodetarragon2649
@pabloricardodetarragon2649 6 жыл бұрын
It's visible you have never sailed a symmetrical wing sail and you have no idea how it works. I had a 18m2 catamaran with a wing in 1987... 26 knots...Twice the speed of the wind. Unhappily too heavy and delicate to handle as the wing was rigid, a big piece. This soft version is pretty interesting.
@petersampson4635
@petersampson4635 6 жыл бұрын
Freakin` KIWI`S small country ( population ) brilliant inventions/innovation! Well done bud. A " Can do " people. No i`m not a Kiwi. Aussie. Credit to where it belongs, A` cuz!
@NewtonInDaHouseYo
@NewtonInDaHouseYo 4 жыл бұрын
Is the designer a Kiwi? Looks like lake Geneva in Switzerland.
@michael5128
@michael5128 6 жыл бұрын
what song is this
@senortroncoso1898
@senortroncoso1898 6 жыл бұрын
Se infla a pulmón o a pedal?
@christo4982
@christo4982 2 жыл бұрын
can anyone identify the model boat this is?
@dionwebber708
@dionwebber708 2 жыл бұрын
Any one knows the type of boat in this video?
@jcoghill2
@jcoghill2 4 жыл бұрын
There's an article on them with all you would care to know located here www.yachtingworld.com/extraordinary-boats/inflated-wing-sail-121282
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