Yep. Before they were just nerfing healers. If they're increasing player healthpools and NOT increasing enemy damage, then they're actually giving healers more time.

That is the main issue I had with the change in DF, if you buff player HP and damage done to players both with 25%, nothing changes when it comes to burst damage. Blizzard even said in the change notes that the change was made to threaten players with other things than bursty damage and one-shots. Ofc that did not pan out because that is not how math works. I don't understand how blizzard and tons of players supporting the change believed it would actually change the damage profile. Now just buffing health without the damage part actually does change it, but I kinda wish they would just squish the health a bit and reduced the healing and damage done to players instead, which would do the exact same thing. I always found it silly when the numbers starts to scale in the millions, but eh. I dream of a day where healing is more of a constant thing that is more like a throughput counterpart of DPS, and not this bursty mess we have today, but I am sure we'll end up where we are now again later in TWW as we always do.

That's correct. Also they buffed self healing on 10.1. Just another lzen video with half research done.

@@dotftw1 hope this will help tho, looking to go healer main I think

@@Zkippe Hope so as well, they are really trying this time and l can already feel the difference on beta. Hope everything goes well for you on TTW. Good luck 🤞

I feel the same. I find this game so much more complex than it used to be, I don't understand how people keep focus and understand all the different mechanics.

All skill baby. We get all the jobs because there isn’t enough rot damage imo.

They did a really good job in MoP but too many people whined about MoP HurDUR KuNg Fu PaNdAs, so they did WoD and since then screwing things up.

I agree but I think this with a stat like spirit or something mana related would be nice. Also I think the dampening might be a little tricky with Hots and shields

Healing dampening will break tanks though. Either Blood DK is the only Tank to stay alive because it has the highest self healing or it will be the absolute worst because it loses healing and has not the damage reduction capabilities e.g. prot war has.

@@felixW94 Agreed, it would take significant rework and balance for some classes/abilities. No arguement there. I think it is worth the investment long-term though. I think of it as technical debt, with the current design/philosophy it's easier to just maintain the status quo vs to actually fix the root problem, which is significant work. The current design is a nightmare to balance long-term and requires a ton of iteration and wasted constant time-investment. That said, the sooner we get to the root problem the sooner we can move on and continue down the correct long-term path. There is also option 2 which kinda just solves most issues. Player health scaling with monster damage is basically what they are "trying" to do each time they blanket-increase player health by X percent - so they are already "close" to understanding the problem, just not quite hitting the home run. Scaling player health with monster damage is effectively the same as "not scaling player health or monster damage and simply applying healing dampening" as far as healing impact is concerned. It can even simplify balancing/tuning/dungeon_design in a lot of ways. IE If a boss AOE ability should nuke a group to 10% health, then it will always do that, the only difference is can the healer top off those higher health pools before that next AOE goes out. Healer checks can then be truely about output, and difficulty of bosses can decrease the interval between those AOE's going off (as the boss fight goes on, if dps are not killing quick enough, the healer checks become more frequent and a strong healer can buy the dps more time to do their job poorly) just to name one example of opportunities for interesting mechanics and ways for good healers to contribute to the group vs bad ones (much like good tanks and good dps can contribute in their respective roles). Right now, healer checks aren't even about the healer, it's ironically about dps properly using their defensives, and the healer is either capabable of a key level or not (binary is not great). Good healers should be able to make up for short-comings of other players.

You missed the point, this is about healer gameplay

@@SBqwerty you missed the point it's a group setting though, if you require 5 people to get through then the weight is on all 5 players. I like the situations like planning my teams cds for certin fights lize AV17 Where we need to use zephyer first then personals cause that means for the non one shots earlier I can't let them need them for the 4 pack pull earlier. So now the healing expectation is on me. They keep looking in m+ as it's encounter based but it's not it's one long encounter That needs to be counted out and played like a dance.

@@Poisonieer sure but that gameplay sucks and it shows in the numbers of healers that are leaving. There's ways to make cooldowns impactful without having the top people in a single global before they die

@@SBqwerty I don't know if that's the corolation though. And the part that confuses me is plenty of healers agree with me and there are alot that aren't. And the frustrating part is it dose always feel like the pug lords (god bless them) hate it but statisticly there are going to be keys that aren't pugable.