J. S. Bach’s Secrets Revealed: Inventio IX in F minor

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Samuel Andreyev

Samuel Andreyev

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Composer Samuel Andreyev presents an analysis of J. S. Bach’s Inventio n° IX in F minor.
00:00 Introduction
00:53 2-part counterpoint: definition
01:29 Invertible counterpoint: definition
03:22 Performance of the piece
05:18 Rhythmic complementarity
06:52 Analysis of right hand motif
09:20 Analysis of left hand motif
10:22 Contrary motion: definition
10:50 Expressive use of augmented 2nd
11:13 Analysis of bars 5-8
13:27 Analysis of bars 9-16
14:49 Spacing of voices
15:58 How Bach modulates
16:28 Analysis of bars 17-28
18:25 Harmonic analysis of bars 25-28
18:50 Binary form: definition
20:00 Analysis of bars 29-34
21:09 Conclusion
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@coleb.t.6905
@coleb.t.6905 Жыл бұрын
Babe wake up, Samuel Andreyev posted an analysis
@Tylervrooman
@Tylervrooman Жыл бұрын
Lol... Facts though.
@jimshaw899
@jimshaw899 Жыл бұрын
You illustrate why I can enjoy Bach without any ability whatsoever to understand his genius. I'm just not wired for it. Thanks for the exposition.
@SamuelJFord
@SamuelJFord Жыл бұрын
Great video, quite a beautiful piece. A relative bought me the sheet music of Bach's 2 part inventions for Christmas. An excellent gift because, while I love Bach, I had not heard any of the 2 part inventions before so they were a perfect way of improving my sight reading. Before I let myself watch this video I had a go at playing the hands seperately. No chance in hell I'm sight reading them together yet!
@supviewer
@supviewer Жыл бұрын
I don't care if the piano is tuned correctly or if the invention is played on harpsichord or not. The essence here is the depth of the analysis. He doesn't mention only what Bach did (that's something that an AI can also do pretty well) but he investigates the reasons behind each compositional choice. Well done!
@FighterFred
@FighterFred Ай бұрын
The real miracle to me is how someone can take such simple melodies and combine them into something out of this world. While at the same time speaking to your inner soul at a fundamental level. The 3-voice Sinfonia 9 following this piece is one of the best that Bach wrote, it's beyond description.
@Pretzels722
@Pretzels722 Жыл бұрын
Sight reading “average” lesser-known baroque composers really puts in perspective how great Bach is. His mastery in counterpoint is second to none.
@bela6604
@bela6604 Жыл бұрын
do you have suggestions for the latter? im trying to improve my sight reading and it wouldn't hurt getting to know some baroque🙏
@simballine
@simballine Жыл бұрын
@@bela6604 Try some Jean-Philippe Rameau (Dover has a complete edition). I find that most of it fits under the hands well and is easily approachable. In addition, there are a few more technical pieces and a lot of interesting ideas.
@samuel_andreyev
@samuel_andreyev Жыл бұрын
@@simballine Rameau is far from an average or lesser-known composer. His Traité de de l’harmonie had a decisive and lasting influence, and his Pièces de clavecin are widely-performed.
@AlessandroSistiMusic
@AlessandroSistiMusic Жыл бұрын
​​@@bela6604 You mean some more "normal" music in 18th century style? Try Fischer's "Musikalischer Parnassus". Handel is of course very skilled as a composer, but his keyboard works tend to be more harmonically transparent than Bach's.
@simboels9324
@simboels9324 2 ай бұрын
@@bela6604 Joseph-Hector Fiocco also comes to mind.
@denise2169
@denise2169 Жыл бұрын
What a great analysis! Bach’s music, even the 2-part Inventions, is incredibly beautiful, and yet so complex! Thank you, Samuel, for sharing your knowledge with us!
@samuel_andreyev
@samuel_andreyev Жыл бұрын
my pleasure, thanks for watching!
@GeoffLiMusic
@GeoffLiMusic Жыл бұрын
Greatly appreciate how thorough your analysis was. I'd been meaning to get into Bach and study his works more, and this was a great introduction.
@samuel_andreyev
@samuel_andreyev Жыл бұрын
Glad to hear it!
@user-uo8yh9tb8g
@user-uo8yh9tb8g Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the upload, I admire what you do very much, so keep up the great work
@petershoop5317
@petershoop5317 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the detailed analysis; more detail to dig into and understand than other videos on the piece. Took a minute to find it in the KZfaq search after watching the first time. Subscribed. Thanks again. 👍
@samuel_andreyev
@samuel_andreyev Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@m.walther6434
@m.walther6434 Жыл бұрын
Great analysis, thank You very much, looking forward to more of this. Way to go, only 6 more Invention, maybe next year.
@ethanchilton2345
@ethanchilton2345 Жыл бұрын
Big fan of these analyses great work :)
@leedufour
@leedufour Жыл бұрын
Thanks Samuel!
@joaquinrojas7157
@joaquinrojas7157 Жыл бұрын
Amazing, thank you very much Samuel! All the best!
@timbruer7318
@timbruer7318 Жыл бұрын
Very enjoyable and well explained.
@gcummings88
@gcummings88 Жыл бұрын
So grateful for your Bach videos. He held the most delicate things in the firmest grasp.
@FilipSandecomposer
@FilipSandecomposer Жыл бұрын
A really great presenttation! Thank you for this video on the mastership of Bach!
@user-nz8vo8re7u
@user-nz8vo8re7u 6 ай бұрын
Thank you! I have been practicing the inventions recently and this video matched my needs exactly 😊
@dariocaporuscio8701
@dariocaporuscio8701 Жыл бұрын
Speaking about baroque, 2 voices compositions, have you heard W.F. Bach’s 6 duets for 2 flutes? A very unusual collection, I recommend especially the lamentabile from the n4 in F major and the vivace from the n1 in e minor. They really sound from another planet!
@rayancharafeddine4982
@rayancharafeddine4982 Жыл бұрын
Oh those are brilliant, you can feel JS would be proud of him
@lainarte
@lainarte Жыл бұрын
Great analysis! Thank you so much for the great videos you post, have you ever considered making a video on Helmut Eder? Maybe his Drei Satze
@user-cq3qb6es9h
@user-cq3qb6es9h Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@witneyskye5556
@witneyskye5556 Жыл бұрын
I'm new to your channel and will be visiting frequently! Thank you for the inspiration. I wish you had been my professor in university. Music theory/composition comes to life when it is explained with clarity and enthusiasm. Thank you for sharing your knowledge and talents. I will be sure to tell my other musician friends about your channel. 🎵🎶🎵🎶p.s. I learned of you while watching a Jordan Peterson video.
@tomlabooks3263
@tomlabooks3263 6 ай бұрын
Excellent!!
@Tylervrooman
@Tylervrooman Жыл бұрын
Also, congratulations on 50k.
@videosdehistoriadelamusica4484
@videosdehistoriadelamusica4484 Жыл бұрын
Terrific video, Samuel‼ Your channel is a great contribution to music education! Thank you for your explanation of this remarkable piece! Your analysis of the grouping structures of the measures was very enlightening! I was hoping to hear also your take on the remarkable consecutive fifths of bar 25... maybe for your next video! 😄
@samuel_andreyev
@samuel_andreyev Жыл бұрын
Thank you!!! So glad you enjoyed it. I must admit I didn't notice the consecutive fifths.. good ear ;)
@videosdehistoriadelamusica4484
@videosdehistoriadelamusica4484 Жыл бұрын
@@samuel_andreyev Good eyesight, rather, hehe... They are quite well hidden!
@zombieraddish
@zombieraddish Жыл бұрын
In case no one's said it yet, amazing thumbnail
@Acoustic-Rabbit-Hole
@Acoustic-Rabbit-Hole 13 күн бұрын
A-flat major is the relative-major of F-minor. And here I would like to add that if you listen to the A-flat note by itself, it is a very lonely, distant sound. It actually seems like it’s further away than other notes. Really, to MY ear it’s sounds like the MOST of any note; Like a Twinkling star. La Campanella (The Bell), by Paganini takes advantage of this note in it’s repetitions during that piece, as made famous in Liszt’s transcription of it for piano. Anyway, what I’m getting at is that F-major (Green. The Pastoral), and, therefore F-minor, is an active, flowing and open key to play in, the F-MINOR performance still embodies some of that lonely or estranged quality to it. (Because of the embedded Blue of the relative Ab key). I feel like the Bach invention if F-minor here is sort of like the lost sheep in the meadow, trying to find its way home. My psychological analysis of the piece. My Theory of Ptich Psychology and Note-to-Color music theory can be found here at _The Acoustic Rabbit Hole_ for those interested. Thank you, Mr. Addreyev
@winterdesert1
@winterdesert1 Жыл бұрын
What is it called when baroque composers take a musical idea/motif and crawl up or down the scale with it? It repeats, but it climbs up or down the key. It's so beautiful, and I wonder what that is called.
@samuel_andreyev
@samuel_andreyev Жыл бұрын
a harmonic sequence!
@winterdesert1
@winterdesert1 Жыл бұрын
@@samuel_andreyev Thank you. I notice baroque does that a lot!
@ajames283
@ajames283 2 ай бұрын
Fortspinnung
@chrismusic4613
@chrismusic4613 7 ай бұрын
Interesting. Would love to get your analysis of Bachs solo violin partitas. Incredible feat to keep things interesting with a steady flurry of constant sixteenth notes.
@truBador2
@truBador2 Жыл бұрын
Analyze the Three Part Invention in Fm. It is Bach's genius distilled.
@MichaelCWBell
@MichaelCWBell Жыл бұрын
Sorry if you mentioned this though I couldn’t watch the full presentation. The most interesting feature of this piece to me is the obbligato interpretation of the trill on the raised 7th (written as 16th notes). I’m not sure if I’ve ever seen the same thing elsewhere in the Bach ouevre. In addition another trill is written as an actual trill in the same piece.
@greg55666
@greg55666 Жыл бұрын
Hi Samuel, is there any reason you like/chose this invention in particular as opposed to any other one? (8, 13, 14 are my favorites). Does this one do something special, or better, or is it just a personal favorite?
@arnoldhemsley9317
@arnoldhemsley9317 5 ай бұрын
Have you done the A minor 13 invention ? It will be helpful if not.
@lawrencetaylor4101
@lawrencetaylor4101 9 ай бұрын
Merci.
@rubenmolino1480
@rubenmolino1480 Жыл бұрын
excelent ¡¡
@callscreenerpaul6636
@callscreenerpaul6636 Жыл бұрын
When I was a composition student I always shocked my professors by admitting that I understood that Bach was a musicologist's wet dream, that his stuff was incredibly complicated, but I just felt nothing from it.
@samuel_andreyev
@samuel_andreyev Жыл бұрын
Maybe you never heard a truly first rate performance..?
@callscreenerpaul6636
@callscreenerpaul6636 Жыл бұрын
@@samuel_andreyev You may very well be right, and I'm certainly not saying that his work isn't genius. It is. I'm just saying that it doesn't speak to me. For example, when I was in college studying viola my professor would hand me Telemann when I wanted to play Carter and Hindemith. Just some music spoke to me and others didn't.
@Vingul
@Vingul Жыл бұрын
I'm certainly not going to assume anything about your psychology based purely on that anecdote...
@rayancharafeddine4982
@rayancharafeddine4982 Жыл бұрын
@@samuel_andreyev I find a lot of Bach even sounds good on midi, so I guess its just affinity
@samuel_andreyev
@samuel_andreyev Жыл бұрын
🤮 now you're going too far
@christophedevos3760
@christophedevos3760 Жыл бұрын
Everything in counterpoint revolves around the third, that nifty 'passe partout'.
@DangerRussDayZ6533
@DangerRussDayZ6533 10 ай бұрын
The performance could really use some more dynamics if I'm being honest. You really hammered the hell out of it.
@mercoid
@mercoid 5 ай бұрын
When played for the purpose of illustrating the bones of the piece to an amateur/layman audience, I think he took the right approach. This is not a performance.
@ludwigamadeushaydn706
@ludwigamadeushaydn706 Жыл бұрын
"Blink if Bach is holding you hostage"
@caseydahl1952
@caseydahl1952 Жыл бұрын
did you watch Tár?
@samuel_andreyev
@samuel_andreyev Жыл бұрын
Not yet, wife wants to go see it though
@adude9882
@adude9882 Жыл бұрын
Did you ever consider how we year a series of tones as a 'voice'?
@samuel_andreyev
@samuel_andreyev Жыл бұрын
It's not just a series of tones, it's also a phrase, a rhythm, an articulation, a register.
@wadejnelson
@wadejnelson Жыл бұрын
Soli Deo Gloria
@r1p2m32
@r1p2m32 Жыл бұрын
So, everyone obviously likes this. Where are compositions like this from greatest stars like Madonna, Bieber, Rappers? I'd buy the music tomorrow.
@manuelgonzales6483
@manuelgonzales6483 9 ай бұрын
"...one does not dissect gossamer..." 🙀
@jacksonelmore6227
@jacksonelmore6227 10 ай бұрын
Whenever I write counterpoint I run into a problem of analyzing it after I write it I’ll listen to it, and it’ll be fire 🔥 But I’ll analyze the chords made, and it’s as if everything just keeps going from tonic notes to subdominant notes in the same bar whenever a melody note changes Basically, my own diatonic voice leading pisses me off, I want to use chromaticism in a romantic way but keep the voices more independent How do I transcend diatonic counterpoint
@samuel_andreyev
@samuel_andreyev 10 ай бұрын
Maybe have a look at Hindemith's book, The Craft of Musical Composition. Good luck.
@brynbstn
@brynbstn Жыл бұрын
You demonstrate Bach’s genius in composition but what makes this music so moving for you, do artistically great? What if you had to explain that without doing an analysis?
@samuel_andreyev
@samuel_andreyev Жыл бұрын
try explaining the sensation of looking up at the night sky -- same problem
@brynbstn
@brynbstn Жыл бұрын
@@samuel_andreyev Could try to bring in aesthetic concepts in your vids. You don’t hear about them much , with Bach.
@RMPdude
@RMPdude 3 ай бұрын
Nice video overall but the word "invention" is misspelled.
@pietersmal5903
@pietersmal5903 Жыл бұрын
I love your accurate pronunciation of "Bach"! But, it's a pity "Johann Sebastian" didn't make the German cut!
@genesises
@genesises Жыл бұрын
people who mark words are annoying 🤣
@stevehinnenkamp5625
@stevehinnenkamp5625 Жыл бұрын
The listener who is moved needs no explanation.
@LearnCompositionOnline
@LearnCompositionOnline 9 ай бұрын
The composer needs
@wernerretief4569
@wernerretief4569 Жыл бұрын
Why don't you write us an invention yourself. Looking forward to it.
@LearnCompositionOnline
@LearnCompositionOnline 9 ай бұрын
Ok ✅
@herrickinman9303
@herrickinman9303 2 ай бұрын
He plays like he's drunk.
@stevehinnenkamp5625
@stevehinnenkamp5625 Жыл бұрын
Played very correctly. That's it! Now make it poignant.
@phpn99
@phpn99 Жыл бұрын
Sam, you need to tune the unisons on your piano. Yikes ! It shouldn't take you more than 15-20 minutes and it's dead easy if one of the three strings is properly tuned.
@samuel_andreyev
@samuel_andreyev Жыл бұрын
I know. Help me afford a piano tuner! www.patreon.com/samuelandreyev
@christophedevos3760
@christophedevos3760 Жыл бұрын
@@samuel_andreyev they've gotten expensive, haven't they? ☹️
@samuel_andreyev
@samuel_andreyev Жыл бұрын
quite, in Strasbourg anyway.. like 200€ or more!
@christophedevos3760
@christophedevos3760 Жыл бұрын
@@samuel_andreyev really? 😳That surprises me. Well, then I'm better off in Flanders, 70 euro. But quite a time ago.But maybe better to buy a harpsichord then and tune it yourself. 😊
@samuel_andreyev
@samuel_andreyev Жыл бұрын
yes, or a clavichord!
@kamikaki1914
@kamikaki1914 Жыл бұрын
Bach on piano… My ears are bleeding, suffering is endless and whole day ruined
@samuel_andreyev
@samuel_andreyev Жыл бұрын
Contribute to my harpsichord fund! www.patreon.com/samuelandreyev
@torterrakart7249
@torterrakart7249 Жыл бұрын
@@samuel_andreyev Smooth
@pinkfloydhomer
@pinkfloydhomer Жыл бұрын
@kamikami Reading nonsense like yours is endless suffering. Bach encouraged playing music on many different instruments and experimenting with instrumentation. He would have loved the modern piano. Bach's music is abstract and works on all instruments.
@hugoclarke3284
@hugoclarke3284 Жыл бұрын
I think this piece would sound best on clavichord and played a little more seamlessly. It's true Bach's music can be easily adapted and he did so himself many times. But it's also true that the character of the instrument influences the composer.
@denise2169
@denise2169 Жыл бұрын
Kamikaki,I’m sorry you feel like that! I’m lucky that I love playing and hearing Bach works on the piano! I’ve played some of the Inventions and the Italian Concerto on harpsichord, which was fun, but the piano gives more depth of colour and nuance!
@yvesjeaurond4937
@yvesjeaurond4937 Жыл бұрын
I don't like being negative, but you banged/slammed every key in your performance.... ?!? No rythmic impetus.... Sorry... Uneven (16th) notes in the examples 6 mins. And you spoke for five minutes before playing a note... ? Good luck with your project.
@samuel_andreyev
@samuel_andreyev Жыл бұрын
If you feel like you can do it better, I encourage you to make your own video!
@denise2169
@denise2169 Жыл бұрын
Yves, I have analysed many of of Bach’s clavier inventions and fugues, and I find Samuel’s analysis to be clear and well-presented, helping listeners understand and better appreciate the complexity of Bach’s music. We should be grateful that scholars like Samuel take time to share their wisdom! Thank you, Samuel!
@ajames283
@ajames283 2 ай бұрын
Ok. Not the point of video
@westbethkid
@westbethkid Жыл бұрын
Whenever I listen to Bach, even without know any of the analysis, I feel like I'm getting smarter. Just following the patterns seems to sharpen my brain...
@samuel_andreyev
@samuel_andreyev Жыл бұрын
Same. It's ennobling.
@johnryskamp2943
@johnryskamp2943 Жыл бұрын
Music is dead.
@insight827
@insight827 Жыл бұрын
Wonderful analysis as always. Looking forward to the Beethoven quartets, if you decide to do them!
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