Holo jaba makes a lot of sense here, but i do think the despecialized jabba (that wasnt stepped on) would be even better in the hologram without the static interruption when han walks behind. Really clever edit though. To this day i never understood why george would make that edit, as if jabba wouldn't have han killed right there for it.

Yes it did.

Except that it was always meant to be replaced by an alien character, Declan Mulholland was meant to serve as a reference (they were originally going to put a stop motion alien over him).

What’s up thuggees

@@Thuggeebricks2 WTF THUGE RHICKS!!!!!

When the scene was added back in for the special editions, with the first totally crummy CGI Jabba, I thought that it was just a part of Han’s wry, ironic/sarcastic humor - for example when he keeps calling Leia “Princess” on Hoth

Why tho?

​@@lukasrossmann5352 To me at least, it always felt weird that Jabba would actually physically lead the search for Han. I don't think he likes to move a lot. It feels lot more realistic with the hologram

"but I gotta say the decision to make Jabba a hologram in this scene improves it a bit." Why? Jabba lives in his palace on literally the same planet (Tatooine). Making Jabba a hologram only makes sense if Jabba was living in a distant part of the galaxy.

@@Rishi123456789 Because he's a massive slug. He doesn't like to move a lot. IIRC, in lore it's said hutts like Jabba usually only go out of their palaces like a couple times a year. They get other people to do their dirty work.

Agreed. I think the original cut works better when we don’t ever see Jabba , it makes it feel more ominous and mysterious whenever he gets brought up in dialogue during Episodes IV & V, and more climactic when you do finally get to see him for the first time in Episode VI

Yeah, that's bullshit.

​@@Rishi123456789 It's a fan edit. Calm down.

It's no so much a scream it's more annoyance he's being destabilised 😂

If you saw the original 1997 theatrical release, you saw Han walk around Jabba in almost a 'square' like move over and behind, which just looked awful. Then, the effects were touched up a bit for the DVD release, and then again for the Blu-ray release. Still, the idea that the most notorious gangster in the galaxy, the 'Al Capone' of Star Wars, is going to let Han step on his tail? If it was always Lucas' intention to put that scene back into the film, he could've made 'Jabba' the name of the right hand man to ________ The Hutt. That way, he wouldn't have had to put up with all the hassle decades later.

@@markusallen5634 just more proof that George is a bad writer and needs help from others to flesh out ideas…Star Wars itself is just Flash Gordon, Kurosawa and John Ford westerns put into a blender

I agree.

Also fixes the stepping on the tail bit. Waving a hand through a hologram? Jabba could tolerate that. Stepping on his tail? You're dead.

The hand waving and Jabbas reaction still is so clunky and awful

I agree, and why would Jabba physically react to someone waving their hand through his hologram? There didnt need to be any shenanigans at all in that shot. Han walks behind him as he's talking, nothing else, just like he did with the human actor.

@@fletchbg, I think the idea was that Jabba's tail would be large to step over, even if this is a smaller version than we see in RotJ.

Boba didn't exist back then when they shot the scene. Plus Han called him Jabba, and Boba is ... more slim, than the original actor. So you could not just add him into the scene, but they would've needed to entirely reshot it for the Special Edition. But I get what you mean. Boba threatening Han would've been cool and make more sense, than Jabba moving his lazy butt from his throne for a smuggler.

@@nerd-mask723bobas literally in the scene. Do you see him in the background at the end

​@@jetbricksstudios5530he was added

@@jetbricksstudios5530 Not until the Special Edition, pal. He wasn't there in the original release. They added him in afterwards. Lucas created Boba Fett for the Empire strikes Back, but even then he was simply called "Bounty Hunter". Only in Return of the Jedi they came up with the name "Boba Fett".

@nerd-mask723 right. Since these are special edition scenes, I was more talking about a scene that would be after the conception of Boba Fett. Just thinking of a way this scene could add something to the narrative. Stuff im talking about is all hypothetical/imaginary 😅 But yeah, it'd be hard to edit the frames cause the original actor is a heavy guy.

@@benschmidt8912not even that; this scene serves no real purpose anymore with the edits to the greedo conversation, we can get all the information presented here elsewhere

@@patricksnoring4739- exactly. and the acting and scene work are poor.

The best solution is to cut the scene like in the original. There is no way to really make it make sense and it is not needed.

How does it not make sense? It is just a little repetition of the Greedo scene but I don't see how it doesn't make sense 🤔 I love that Jabba is a hologram now, but the only bit of this I still hate is Boba Fett stopping and looking at the camera 🙄 he should have just kept walking after Jabba.

Do you know what the great solution is? CUT THE SCENE. One of my biggest pet peeves is people wanting to see "EXTENDED" footage and extended scenes. Just trust the editors please. Stop trying to out think them. If they cut something they had good reason.

Lucas writing is naive and childish.

​@@99Gara99 Not nearly as childish as Filoni's...

​@@user-xx6vy9ri8pBro, I'd argue that the later half of the Clone Wars series as well as Bad Batch, even the later seasons of Rebels, has some of the most mature writing Star Wars has ever seen.

@@kippsryan1fr. I never found my self even get uncomfortable in any lucas movie, but there are three character deaths in the the Filoni shows that get me crying literally every time

You are talking about Jabba as though he's the emperor or Vader. I don't think it's that big of a deal since he does come off as aloof. Han is also kind of a force to be reckon with so I can see why Jabba isn't so big to react as though wanting to torture Han for that. Really not that big of a deal and you just making excuses as usual.

Thank you for explaining because I was sick dues were it was from. Fora second I thought Disney made the edit. I assumed that’s why he screams, glad I got confirmation

I was going to say; I thought it was a Disney Bluray revision.

I really liked the hologram version until I saw the close up of the waking transmitter. Lol.

I think I like it better than the other 3.

The Holo-version ain't too bad. George did great trying to showcase how far SFX came by redoing the scene with CGI Jabba, but if this Holo-version were the direction George went in, it woulda maintained the whole "we don't see Jabba in the flesh until Return of the Jedi" more plausible.

Yes, but it adds Han's extendo arm disrupting the holo image. lol

I'd argue it's even more distracting than him stepping on his tail.

Can we also address the fact that Han STEPPED on Jabba? Having someone step on you, especially someone who owes you money, in front of your goons makes you look weak. Given how petty and ruthless Jabba is, I’m surprised he didn’t have Boba ice Han the second he did that.

I think the only way they can repair that moment is if we see a Solo Sequel where he becomes Jabba's golden boy.

I've always read Solo stepping on Jabba's tail as a sign of familiarity; he's (usually!) such a lucrative smuggler that he feels he can take the odd liberty or two with the Hutt.

@@MaryBrownIsTheBlairWitch Exactly! The fact that Han doesn't grovel or beg---but instead is cool and unflinching while knowing that he could indeed be a step away from death---are precisely the qualities Jabba wants in a smuggler. Their little "dance" in this scene is meant to demonstrate to his boss that despite the recent incident, Han still has the right stuff and the nerves of steel to be an ace smuggler. (And in doing so, from a filmmaking perspective serve to quickly and more deeply characterize Han to the audience, removed from his mere bragging to Luke and Obi-Wan). If Han were a lackey or minion, he might indeed be dead for such an act, but Han is a skilled front-line moneymaker for the Hutt, hard to replace and---for the time being---worth more alive than dead, and both know it (and the audience learns that yes, Han isn't just a braggart; if the racket boss is convinced he is that good a pilot and smuggler, he may be just that...). If Han is killed, Jabba is 100% out a large chunk of illicit revenue. In period gangster movies, the smarter sort often are willing to overlook such personal snubs or even failures if they believe they can still profit ("nothing personal, just business"). But when Han DOESN'T pay Jabba back... well, THEN an example must be made, and you get the events of ESB and ROTJ. (And even then, as Boba Fett explained to Vader, Jabba's bounty was much higher for capturing Solo alive than dead. Unlike so many others, the matter of Han's life-and-death was not something Jabba took lightly!)

@@tmorganriley these new star wars fans dont get it

It's supposed to be an alien and doesn't have to respect human proportions

​@@danielgonzale26how is that related?

This guy's brain is so big it fell out. ​@@danielgonzale26

He didn't. Look at the original puppet. The dimensions are publicly available online. Same size. Stop looking for excuses to justify cringey fan-edits.

Deleting this garbage scene was the only thing that made sense.

"I know someone else who goes by the name, Jabba. Ezra Bridger."

jabba should be human

I’d like to see a fan edit where Jabba the Hutt is replaced by Jabba the Human in the other movies.

@davidnabbit hell yeah Jabba the human all the way 😎

​@@davidnabbitJust a big fat guy on a platform in nothing but Speedos, eating frogs and hanging out with a weird monkey. I'd pay for that.

The actor Declan Mulholland was actually from Northern Ireland, per Wikipedia.

@@HorrorMonster4406 then Ulster accent

​@@yokaiou5848Jabba Rogers of the Queens Rangers.

I have the same sentiment my friend, thankyou kindly!

makes no sense though in the part Han steps on his tail, shouldn't feel nothing if he's a hologram

@@gbassboy2176 he distorted his hologram instead which Jabbo felt disrespected for I guess

Sadly, it still doesn’t make sense due to the tail step. This scene is better off left out of the film.

How does Jaba being a hologram make more sense?

The Khetanna frequently rests literally a few hundred yards away in lore. Why wouldn't he swing by on his daily walks? People keep forgetting the Khetanna is portable.

He left his palace for the podrace in TPM

yes, although it's more the fact Jabba the Hutt would leave the palace with such little security that is weird, especially when he could have just asked his hunters to capture Solo alive and bring him to the palace. But I guess he wanted to surprise Solo with an unexpected confrontation. At least Boba Fett was added to the scene to justify Jabba's odd decision, since if he were not then one would wonder why Solo & Chewbacca didn't just blast away at Jabba and his goons.

@@egu5100 that was a major city wide event though, not a small dispute with one of his smugglers

That’s probably why the original reinsert made him young and thin, so you would believe he was more active. When they changed him back to fat, it makes you wonder why he would even bother leaving his lair.

I thought it was a joke considering Jabba is a hut and not a human

​@@jgstudios117 It was. The actor was just a stand in. The novelization makes you aware that he isn't a human.

The scene was written as jabba being an alien so it was meant to be a joke

It doesn't make sense anyway as there's no Earth in Star Wars, so no humans.

No, he wasn't. The human actor was nothing but a stand-in for when George had the technology to do Jabba properly hence why it was never in any version of the Episode IV, I wish people would stop spreading this false info. "You're a wonderful human being" is just Han being tongue-in-cheek.

It wasn't that they wanted to hold off on it. Lucas wanted him in the movie but just couldn't decide on what he looked like. In the comics from 77 or 78 Jabba looks like that panther looking alien that ends up being in his palace.

Lucas said in an interview he couldnt afford it

That discussion was actually edited to replace this scene

@@TheRenegade... Yeah

Similar? More like identical. Several of Hans lines are taken word from word from the Greedo scene

@@Gage_Brumley I'm pretty sure it's the same recording

They should have had Jabba say Maclunkey

The human version? Because all the other ones are CGI.

Not sure my friend, I'm currently working on the Micro Series Edit and will use Adywan's A New Hope Revisited, as the template for this eventual edit, which isn't out yet ha

The walking hologram just shows off CGI for no dramatic reason... whereas the cut to Chewie, who is pacing but cool and collected, helps subtly give us the tone: Han isn't alone and has backup in case anything goes wrong; right now, the situation is still under control, as Chewie is acting like it is... but he is not at all relaxed, is on his guard, not letting Han get too far away. Just enough to keep the tension in the scene going.

That's not a bad idea for a future edit!

This. Absolutely this. Why would Tatooine's biggest crime lord want to leave his Palace?

The thing is, Jabba already did this! What do people think the scene right before this with Greedo was about? This scene just needs to be left out of the movie. It is redundant, looks bad, and ruins the reveal of Jabba in the finale.

​@@HabitualJokerit's like if they inserted a Palpatine scene in the A New Hope special edition.

@@LegendsLiterature or inserting General Grievous into TPM for no reason at all

They actually do, and leading up to their shedding they're a lot tougher to hurt (and even immune to small arms fire, up to a bit) because of all the excess skin. Now that I think about it, this kind of explains Han stepping on Jabba's tail: he didn't realise it'd hurt him due to having recently shed, and once he took that first step it was too late to stop. It isn't perfect, but it helps a bit.

In the Young Han Solo Trilogy (good books, btw, read them) they do this really well. Han is basically Jabba's "best smuggler", which is why he got entrusted to carry so many credits worth of spice in the first place. In an effort to keep his best smuggler around, Jabba is (disingenuously) nice to Han, even telling his guards not to harm him unless given a direct order. Which also explains why they'd not act when Jabba was stepped on - it's like how Stalin had a stroke and nobody dared check on him because he told them he was not to be disturbed.

I actually saw the "Han my boy..." line as a threat, a power move, like how in Goodfellas they'll say something like "you're family, kid" and then whack a guy. Like how a sheriff might go, "Son, you either step outta the car or I'll make you step out." Something like that.

@@trianglemoebius really wish the Solo movie picked up on that plot line. Jabba really should’ve been a part of the film

@@DNTCreativeMedia honestly, stripping away all the extra context, you’re probably right. It was the 70s so Lucas was definitely going for an intergalactic godfather

Han my boogie

They have to use what they've got and not sure how else you'd work around the tail step reaction

​@@funoff3207 but there was a version before that which didn't have the tail step. Ancient footage though. The true OG.

I can't reach him but if you know how to, go for it ha

@@StarWarsStory Maybe in his twitter or facebook but i forget to say that your version his the best and the most logical one it deseve to be part of a version of a new hope, in my opinion.

​@@StarWarsStoryhe's back on his KZfaq so look at him

He couldn't turn around because of the tail.

My team created it,: One cleanely Rotoscoped Jabba out of the sequence. One Blender Model created & animated the mechanical legs. One actor providing Han's legs One VFX maker fixing the background, animating it's extras and turning Jabba into a Hologram And myself, who directed/funded the concept :)

@@StarWarsStory, that answers my question too. Neat.

they are all in 3d except the version with the actor

A talented VFX artist created him.

Han is being sarcastic it perfectly fits Han's nature

​@@alexhetherington8028Exactly

The best solutions are often the simplest.

Probably didn't have footage for it. Remember that the decision to add this back in at all was done much later.

@@NommyBird They didn't have half a second of footage? You joking?

@@timewarpdrive77 A half second cut would have looked even weirder than Jabba squealing. That said, I'm not claiming what they did was the best possible.

@@BittermanAndy look at how long it lasts... barely any time

How does it make sense? Jabba is literally on the same planet. He doesn't need a hologram.

@@Rishi123456789 doesn’t mean he’s go down to a spaceport just to threaten Han.

Oh! No wonder he looked familiar

@emvaca Nope, Declan Mulholland played Jabba, Paul Brooke played Rancor Keeper Malakili.

@@Jonty_Bthink op is gonna change his comment to be truthful or not?

​@@leafgreensniper13OP is joking

​@@Shenordak Probably not a joke. Probably just a rumor. 90% of the comments in this comment section are myths, and people aren't joking or lying; they're just confused.( E.G. the myth of Jabba's size difference between this and EpVI. (Doesn't exist.))

If I recall, much of the additional Greedo dialogue was added during re-shoots that were done both to compensate for cutting the original Jabba scene (hence the duplicative lines), as well as to feature an improved Greedo costume for the close-ups.

lol no. it's a deleted scene. Jabba was originally that human before it was cut and he later appeared as a hutt. The human character was later recanonized as Heater

@@MrPoke That guy was always intended to be cut. The original plan was to put a stop-motion character in his place.

Andor version?! 🤣🤣

Lucas is a hack

Really? I thought he lacked intimidation. He's shorter than Han and his acting is honestly terrible.

Gotta be trolling

At least the original take didn't include Boba Fett walking into the frame for absolutely no reason whatsoever and then turning his head towards the audience.

2000 pounds of latex will do that. :)

Idk why they added Boba Fett it makes him look more like Jabba’s lackey instead of a powerful bounty hunter

It's the only scene that he SHOULD HAVE ADDED Or better stated, reinstated into the film, since the only reason it wasn't in the original version was technological. When he mentions Jabba in the bar, we don't know who or what he is. Now we do! It's better than the stupid unnecessary "Dinosaurs" that were added Or the Criminal rejiggering of the Bar band! And he absolutely Ruined the ending of VI with that reedited version and changing the Ewok song!

@@timsans1170 I have to personally disagree on yub nub. What an awful and anticlimactic way to end the trilogy that was and the only way I can honestly see someone thinking it was good is because they were kids when they saw it and they are overwhelmed with nostalgia. Which is fine. But John Williams end score is magical. It’s such a great emotional piece of music and fits together perfectly with everything. It’s the only change I absolutely love tbh… but Sebastian Shaw should have 100% stayed. I much prefer old proud father Anakin looking over his kids than creepy guy at the school gate Anakin staring from the distance… Btw I am in no way trying to take your love of yub nub away from you. I was just saying the reasons why I’m not a fan.

The one with the hologram is the only one without Greedo, but it still includes another member of Greedo’s species that is purple.

It must have been greedo there is no doubt

and boba has her costume from episode 6. Which makes no sense

It also reveals the Falcon sooner than necessary

Like putting this scene back in?

Jabba looks completely wrong in this scene for multiple reasons. Making him a hologram doesn't fix the fact that this scene shouldn't have been added at all, but it makes it better at least.

Meh, that can be written off as a jab(ba) on Solo's part.

​@@MaryBrownIsTheBlairWitch Exactly. Fits in well with Han's type of humour.

"the theatrical release" Nothing here is part of the theatrical release

​@@timewarpdrive77I meant the theatrical release of the special editions. I would have thought it would be obvious to anyone reading this that THIS version is what I was talking about, which was released in the theaters. Kid I saw Star Wars at a drive-in in 1977. I know the difference. I'm actively sharing 4K77 as we speak.

@@APlagueOfButterflies What you mean, and common vernacular are two different things. Nobody refers to the 97 version as the theatrical one.