To me, both of them are very high-level persons. But today I saw when you put them side by side, it shows true colors.

hahahaha

Other than the view on exploring other planets, Jack Ma is correct on every point. You have to be intellectual and intelligent to understand his points and logic. If you have computer like binary tinkling then it will be extremely hard for you to understands his point. Elon is a very good scientist and extremely intelligent man but clearly not an intellectual thinker.

Lmfaooo

after watching this i sold alibaba stocks .

Bad Host !!!

Was thinking the EXACT same thing.... I can imagine him walking off the stage thinking, “ WTF just happened?” Hope he didn’t fly half way around the world, just for that event?

Jack Ma is an asshole. He's lucky to be in China.

This is how Elon talks

So true ☝️

wait no no 😂😂😂

😂😂😂same here

HHH camon guz

I think Elon is saying AI can be dangerous to civilization if there is no love which is true but I think what jack is saying... for example when atom bomb was invented then hydrogen bomb etc etc ppl believe it will destroy the world over.. but humans did not allow it to happen it resisted.. same with AI there is potential to do harm but as humans, but he is optimistic that we will make the right choice,.. if there was a choice between war n peace human will choose peace, thus AI will be used for good. If anything humans as a species will find ways survive

That human capacity that separates Reason from Logic is ironically what Elon seems to deny exists. That emotional component of reason is the key to imagination, a quality AI can never have, but which is crucial for forecasting (or predicting the future). There lies the qualitative difference b/w the human & the AI 'mind'.

@@victorfolayan4729 The "emotional component of reason" is nothing compared to features of AI we cannot even imagine

@@petrulutenco6600 True. But that's neither here nor there. All distant future states of the universe, including the place of humans relative to AI, is beyond our capacity to imagine. That's the definition of mortality. That doesn't change the fact that reason is a higher order phenomenon than logic in the ordering of consciousness (intelligence). Humans have the capacity for reason, AI doesn't.

Victor Folayan It will, sooner than you can imagine

cringing the whole time lol

Ba ha ha, I’ve noticed when Elon is holding back he raises one then the other shoulder, just his chin to the side and pulls on the bottom of his coat. It’s his way of not blurting out “you don’t get it you Luddite!”

28:23 Jack said,"China has 1800 new babies born every year." What?

neither is elon.

I have finished watching this video completely. (我看完這部影片了) I am a Taiwanese who cares about the global affairs. (我是一個關心全球事務的台灣人) And, sadly, most of my fellow Taiwanese don't really care about the world. (但是，很不幸地，我大部分的台灣同胞不那麼在意世界。) Hopefully Taiwan can become increasingly globally-aware and globally-competitive. (希望台灣可以越來越有全球意識與全球競爭力。) God bless Taiwan. (天佑台灣。)

IQ is not all that matter, I bet u can't beat AI in IQ, what's the point?

😂😂 ''can't beat AI in IQ'' nice one.

And level of understanding of science and the world's around

Elon musk is not a physics genius as well. He is a business conman that hires engineers to do the real work for him haha

Light not life

Rafee for god sake dude, so hillarious :))

😆😆

Jack Ma: Chicken is just food, so we never get hungry

TRUE

Hahahahahahahaha!!!

Really good point

Same joni yep. Absolutely. Lol. It did seem like they had something to pull from in front of them at least.

Yep

This is what happens when you leave it to technology

@@bijucyborg What does that have to do with anything, and besides Robots will so every task in about a century or so better then any human ever could.

Lmao

🤣💯

😂😂😂

He's available on telegram.

on point!

Haha. I love it

total nonsense. Elon Musk is very down to earth. NeuWorld Solutions is like an unfunny guy trying to be funny but ending up being cringe. btfo

Actually Elon sounds like an alien trying to teach earthlings what they don't really know.

Hahahahaa for reals

Haha nice one

It’s written all over his face

Here it is for absolutely free...Elon thinking "This guy is one dumbass" also "Who the hell put this together"

isnt that quite obvious?

"WE ARE FUCKED"

……..

So humble!!

lol

Jack Ma has access to more advanced technology than most if not all of Earth.

@@infinitezest3912 thanks to his employees

@@urbanmetal7802 hater, he's a boss and not plugged into the matrix as most.

There is no technology to Jack . To him it’s “tech knowledge”. While he is still learning how to steal IP, technology has already passed him by!

DELARYCOM 😂😂😂😂

Underrated ass comment right here

Not many people can get into harvard anyway...

@@jeremiahwhite2624 10 times rejected 😂😂

But he still got in and became successful. What the fuck did you do with your life? Troll the internet to feel better about yourself.

That makes sense, actually. People make machines. People made by God

im legit 12 introverted intuition working

@@tehflooper intj 😎

Yes he just answering his own question all the time very intelligent indeed and jack ma is like Yea whatever carry on i already have my own AI Alibaba intelligence and know how to utilize AI you make it i will make sure I cash out the opportunity in best possible way

@@dkcompilation9653 he's like yeah, true, now lets talk about something fun.

he was talking with an ai because ai is dumb

I can't believe no one laughed.

Exacly

@@dudilp3202 lol nerds

@@ZoneZap NEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERD!!!!!!

@@ZoneZap Better than being a simp.

Trading with an expert has been the best way of making huge returns from crypto currency.

The common mistake we newbies make is investing without help and legit guidance from a professional.

​@@harrisonmichael9636 Yes, you're right, it's not watching all videos wasting time on strategies, I was ignorant doing so till I met Sir Lucas S.Chamberlain last year at a startup funding event in Washington DC.

He had some interesting things to say about the state of algorithmic trading today, obviously I'm seeing results, and my trading is going smoothly.

Trading is like a real time business if you want to win it, you need to be prepare for it. Markets are unpredictable, and you can't predict every.

🤓🤓🤓

LLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLL!!!

Nicee

bytad that made my day!

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 winner

Legend

Raghav Gupta I don’t like the tone and manner Jack is addressing god emperor MUSK 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼 I bet he isn’t even paying attention. You can sense a jealousy and inferiority complex in his body language. ☠️

Idk just a thought, that last one.

@@gotbeef7581 What are they then?

Is this a pop quiz?

I was wondering if anyone else caught that on Elon's face. haha

Come on man don't disgrace philosophy.

😂

@@elvarbryhni5525 yup some of his points are correct tho based on logic, not really hating the guy but sometimes you can't be great at most things.

@William Leonard 你知道内幕交易吗Do you know insider trading?

@William Leonard He's become a billionaire on his financial predictions so that he's the right to say that 99.99% of the prediction that human beings' made are wrong, otherwise everyone could be a billionaire, couldn't they? To be honest, I thought the rate of a successfully prediction should be much lower than 0.01%.

@@elvarbryhni5525 Damn that's actually deep

John Briggs China is a factory where produce the smart people for this world.

Akshay Shukla Zizek has left the chat

Hahahahahaha

The most appropriate comment

Akshay Shukla I think that Jack need to improve his English level maybe bcs he is not a native speaker.. he could not understand some joke and word’s meaning Musk said (I think Elon musk his Chinese level was not good as Ma’s English ahh

@General Luise Martinbanger lol he is everywhere in the comment section with same shxxt...

I would pay real mony to watch it as a movie all respect for both but it will be very funny to watch😂🤍🌹

Jack: I want chocolate Elon: chocolate is bad for you because of its high fat and sugar content. Its consumption has been associated with acne, obesity, high blood pressure, coronary artery disease, and diabetes. Jack: I want chocolate

which is which?

@@danilorbatista Jack Ma literally made up a statistic that 99.99% of all predictions about the future are wrong. He did this, in this video, to denounce the threat of AI. Do you really need to ask which one resulted from a propaganda controled state?

Ugh. Well. You're ugly AND stupid. Congratulations.

Propaganda ? What u talking about?

Don't worry, no need to go to THE mars, all that matters if love, no worries about jobs, there will be plenty of jobs, we won't need jobs, I don't worry about what I can't solve, but let me explain that to the guy who can solve them.

@@bellaggio1770 , LOL!

@@bellaggio1770🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Perfect Description. “THE Mars.” 🤣

ludicrous + enabled.

idiot crowd can't even relate any of this shit.. LOL.. no one's laughing,

That’s what happens when communist China backs you up as a friend

James Vince cause he’s speaking about it in a different language than his native tongue. Your special 🤤

@@ciscobriano no that's not what's going on. I speak fluent Mandarin, and Jack Ma's English is extremely fluent. The problem is his content, the setting of this talk, and the awkwardness of Elon humoring him for unknown reasons (although you can make a good guess)

not even the falcon heavy could cross the intellectual distance to donate some of Elon's brain cells over to the equally empty void between Jack's ears.

Not true! Just knowledge in different areas!

@@LucasRodrigues-ls8re I literally have no idea who this Jack Ma dude is a part from the fact that he's rich and he looked like an idiot in this video. which is why it's a joke.

There's Always Another Way he’s the founder and CEO of Alibaba He wasn’t rich! He was fairly poor and rejected from KFC and McDonalds plenty of times, college drop out, and made himself an empire and now it’s the richest man in China! He’s very smart when it comes to personal life and evolution, business, and philosophy. Just not in tech. Tesla is a total failure as a company.... Elon is not nearly as good in business as Jack but his understanding of tech is far superior

@@LucasRodrigues-ls8re ok we get it you're indoctrinated

dude, you nailed the point so hard!

100 % Spot On

They couldn't be more different

@Irish Kelly His companies past and present are...Paypal, Neuralink, Boring Company, SpaceX, Solar City, and Tesla...just think of how revolutionary each company is/was. He's more innovator/visionary than businessman (but thank god he's still businessman otherwise they would all go bankrupt!)

when Jack is talking Elon makes a funny face like saying he doesn't know what he's talking about. Jack tried to look at the same level of intelligence that Elon He failed but it was a good try.

I imagine, especially since his 'rise to fame', an ever increasing amount of his time is wasted. Also can't imagine he enjoys that.

Exactly 😂 jack ma already came from Mars

Elon is a complete waste of time.

@@ofensatul Well maybe you should start on something light and easy and work your way up.

Elon: i wanna go home and do some stuff that are going on in my head. I mean what am i doing here?

Yes !!

Wisdom is different ✍️

Saurav Tomar and 31 seconds

Who knows, maybe that's a good thing. 😂

*at least*

Fav comment by far

There's really nothing to worry about AI Elon is just acting that we're doomed lol.

@@AllInOne-uy9wm you don't have any idea I swear, IA is damn scary

@@TheTariqibnziyad you couldn't even write AI correctly now I'm the one who have no idea? Lol you've been brainwashed by Elon haha.

@@AllInOne-uy9wm hhh please a typo is the problem now xD, there will be a time were AI will make crazy important decisions, and nothing will garantee that the common man will be at the winning side, cuz he doesn't own the AI, others do.

🤣

nightexe yea that was strange shit.. this little fella so rich people too scared to even laugh lol

@@albertibrahimi6349 You, comrade, how you dare to laught glorious Mr. Ma .

Elon is awesome but he is a terrible public speaker, the timing was off on that joke.

Elon Musk is too smart, people tend to think serious anything he says. I had already believed 80% of the statics are wrong.

But what he said is a statistic so that means that what he said is probably wrong

He looks like the kind of guy that would wash his hands after showering

Dude he sounds like he would put a ruler under his pillow to see how long he slept

He's pretending to be dumb so that the Chinese government don't think he's a threat.

@@ghgyuyu2962 I'd rather have intelligence and be normal than own some Chinese version of Amazon. It's bold of you to assume I (or people in general) strive to be a billionaire. I personally would rather live a quiet, nice, and low-key life. And not be humiliated on live TV. It's pathetic that you defend a dumbass online, rich or not. Hopefully one day you gain some sort of self confidence.

Lol

😂

Hhh das like Halal vodka fe him hhhhh since he s ttl genius hhh

& also his brain cells that can’t seem to process what the richest person is saying

Na bro his laugh not anger

You are right

Ha Ha Ha... (Elon Musk's laugh)

lino mars wrong, it’s the try to not cringe one, and it’s as challenging as challenges go.

Try not to laugh challenge? More like try not to punch jack ma in the face challenge

Jackma philosophical theories will be right at some (time>=time("Time taken to evolve AI")) .In the coming future there will be a problem that will be unsolved by the human but solved by the AI Quantum computers,but there also be a problem solved by the human but unsolved by the AI Quantum Computers.

Jackma philosophical theories will be right at some (time>=time("Time taken to evolve AI")) .In the coming future there will be a problem that will be unsolved by the human but solved by the AI Quantum computers,but there also be a problem solved by the human but unsolved by the AI Quantum Computers.

Completely agree...

I couldn't have put it more succinctly myself.

Kinshu Tiwari Jack Ma just says nonsense ... - „it will help to understand ourself better“ 😂

Musk is kinda hard to understand too, but because he sounds like he’s struggling to dumb down the concepts for jack

Jack Ma was so ignorant and arrogant

This is why communism is protected by a dictatorship. It couldn't compete with a level playing field of a democracy, competing with other ideas and change. Communism can only destroy freedom of choice. Communism can only enslave people to an ideology fixed in the 19th century.

That was actually one of his better arguments

I think what Jack Ma was trying to say, as shown by his example of a human racing against a car, is that the car runs on something else, and a human runs on legs. Therefore, you should not try to race against a car, as much as you shouldn't try to beat a computer at calculations. These are tools that humans have invented, such as a car, or a machine. In other words, inventing a printer doesn't mean that artists are at risk, cause that printer just "paints" so quickly and accurately, how could artists possibly compete? The problem here is that Jack compares AI to previously invented tools, not acknowledging that it operates differently.

@@johnmcsudden3176 Exactly! Human level intelligence emerged a long time ago, thousands of years ago, long before mechanical or electronic technology emerged. We are just now at the genesis of neural network technology, and it is progressing much faster than biological evolution. The only question is when will the singularity occur?

If Jack is china's answer to America's Elon, I feel a little safer and confident in America's future.. still learning Mandarin tho.

Elon realized this within probably the first 30 secs

I completely agree

He will reach people he wouldn't have otherwise. People that admire Jack just saw Jack beside Elon.

They took his compagny

Yeah, he had a great idea... doesn't make him a genius like Musk.

Chinese brain will always be primitive, compared to its Western counterpart.

haha, right, totally.

Piotr Kurczewski that’s how you go about your life?

He obviously doesn't want Tesla in China too badly. He just humiliated the richest dude in the country.

yeye! hard to listen;;; jack’s total shitly talking

That is so amazing, I’m trying to get onto the housing ladder at 40. I wish at 55 I will be testifying to similar success

Credits to Jackson Sten Marsh, he saw me through the process. You can glance his name up on the internet and verify him yourself. he has years of financial market experience....

Heard many good recommendations about Jackson Sten Marsh by some YT channels, Seminars and other platforms...

Thanks so much I was able to find his page and I already leave him a message...

I’ve been watching quite a good amount of finance videos lately and I came to discover something, that even with my experience so far in business and in the market I still require someone who is higher than me to guide me. Thx for you advisor, I’ll look him up

Bruh Harambe lmao

Well, he not a tech guy. And he eat dog/cat for breakfast

Hhahahaha

ilias xatzopoulos😂😂😂

The price of getting rich. Alibaba has made a ton of people rich. But anyway, he does want the current culture of having to work a ton to better your life, to stop. And AI is the only way that will happen. The work itself still needs to be done.

Communism cant win if there is opposition of greed and convolution for mass consumerism through liberal capitalism anywhere left in the world Lein knew this, hence the perestroika, china knows this hence the aggressive development and capitalist marketplace within the communist regieme..... Same way as US is printing money out of thin air not being backed by anything physical whilst digitising and gunning for AI, whilst largest inequality and unemployment and incarceration is getting worse, is creating SHIT jobs for people to wage slave to service the debt as inflation and costs of living keep rsing, so is China forced to compete against such evil with aggressive strides. Letting america win with their literal slavery ideologies is going to save humanity, but at what cost?

ilias xatzopoulos preaching is way easier than following. Jack Ma is just a preacher. My opinion of him changed after watching this interview.

Actually both companies have very high workload, this might not be a good point here. Jack ma is definitely smart, why he chooses to behave in this way may have some other reasons.

How is Jack Ma a legend? I never heard of him before...I know I'm ignorant about many many many things but ya never heard of him...how did he make his billions? But the WHOLE world knows about Elon and what he's done.

jack ma is a rich idiot change my mind

They don't though. There's something called the Dunning-Kruger effect which shows that dumb people will overestimate their own intellectual abilities while smart people will often underestimate their own abilities.

Also mocked him by saying "sounds like some famous last words" like the quote "What are you gonna do, stab me?" -guy who got stabbed. Then at where Jack Ma says "it is impossible for computers to control humans" Elon let's out a loud "HA HA!"

I don’t think there’s anything low key about it sir

@@emdex618 rich people control the world, so as long as they know how to stay rich, "idiots" will be forced to serve him

in my view, Elin is more like the AI machine

@@zhaoeric3204 yeah because he's smart😂

😂😂😂

@@zhaoeric3204 seems like Chinese virus ( corona) hits your head hard🤣🤣🤣 Infact you guys are creator of it... Dumb fellow

In 2021 I read your name and my house disappeared

lol this

Lol

Lol

So true.

onidtubes but Elon isn’t

Silas Fruge what? Elon musk has 21 billion u fucking idiot

Especially in china where theres a fuckton of billionaires thats secretly controlls the economy and the govt of Southeast Asian countries

Being a billionaire is the easy part. Becoming though..

@S H don't need too.

i am trying to understand this jack ma person but he must come from a rich family just like elon also but i myself i love working

he is quite good at public appearance actually..

And you know what other one i learn ? You don't have to smart to be rich lol

Calcium Automated machinery I assume you learn that not from Elon. :)

I mean, he didn't appear that well here, as it is a foreign country and it's awkward as Jack Ma is basically a brainlet

@Counterpart 2 You ?

LMAO

😂😂😂aahahaha..hmmrrrghh...I'm literally controlling myself

Counterpart 2 You Jack Ma is a white belt to Elon Musks black belt, as should be evident from this debate.

Absolutely right because they lack respect and dont sense danger

Dennis Chen I thought the other way around ;)

@@thebiblepiano1866 Nah, ma doesn't level musk here and it's painful lol

Dennis Chen Right! Ma is like I don’t worry about the things I can’t solve let’s move on. Elon’s like : well I’m trying to solve them. *takes sip of water

different perspective isn't bad. it gives you food for thought. If you only understand jack Ma's words on the surface, than you fall to see his perspective

totally agree, Ma is so preschool.

Sigma Republic exactly. this topic is too deep and difficult for him. he is better go for some self-help, self-motivating kind of coaching talk. and alibaba is just a ecommerce platform tbn.

zawahra7 yep 👍🏻

Jack ma, he has got the clarity. Technology has become a big thing now a days because we are surrounded by it mostly, so a lot of discussion on AI. But actually technology is just a tool and a very secondary thing for life. if we live life the way we are supposed to we need no technology, its going to happen soon. You may think may be we have to live like primitive humans if we have to live with out technology and that's like going back in time, old ways. But my point is that's not going to be the case and even if that is the case there is nothing like going back in time and living old way of primitive life. Life on Earth is timeless it is in this moment and every moment. There is nothing like old and new way of life. And also not to forget to build technologies there is lot of slavery that many many people are doing day and night, working working working...I think technology for itself is sometimes a problem.

You are damn right

Jack wants to use AI to sell us more things we don’t need on earth

anwesh peddineni Dude, you couldn’t escape technology even if you wanted to.

hahaha that's so good!

Hahahahaha.

Best comment on here 😂

LOL so true

lol AI will be frustrated by humans then !

Hannes Mäeorg foreal man this dudes dumb af, his whole argument is to counter Elon’s ideas. Like bro do you not know this guy?? He’s pro fucking human, listen to his freaking idea. Let’s push to consciousness

I hope Elon was paid enough to compensate for his golden time

Auto blipper why not?

😂😂

😂😂

hahaha

That event was in Shanghai, fyi...

America elected Trump. How smart are they?

the issue is this is basically a conversation between a businessman and engineer about engineering. that's like asking a farmer to debate about an open heart surgery with an actual surgeon

@paul w Yup! They really have no intellectual intelligence... Can you please explain to me how the fuck did Elon and SpaceX managed to land a fucking spaceship? And how does the AI system works? How was it invented? What a fucking cringey comment "nO iNtElLeCtUaL iNtElLiGeNcE" stfu

Anym Jack isn’t even a businessman he admitted to have never made a sale in his life. He made his money by seing computers and websites in America and using tech people in china to bring them over. Then the Chinese gov and investors simply used his website and gave him money to build it. He himself has said he was rejected from every other job possible for being useless he just got extremely lucky in a country that needed what he offered based on others peoples hard work

Anym no, there are plenty of forward-thinking businessmen who care enough to learn about the realities of our future in order to influence it through business. The fact that he is a businessman is not an excuse. He just prefers to cover his ears up and ignore the truth.

Nilayan Majumdar Elon might be a little awkward, but he has plenty of emotional intelligence. What drives him in life is a deep care and concern for humanity. Also, he leads two companies with thousands of employees-the vast majority of whom absolutely adore him. You don’t become a beloved leader without emotional intelligence. In fact, in this video alone his EQ skills are clearly apparent. The patience and restraint which he displayed while having to endure a 45min debate on a subject with a person who is clearly ignorant & clueless on the subject is a testament to his emotional intelligence. If it were me, I would’ve gotten up and left 5min into the debate.

Hold my connections.

😂😂😂

Rk Mahib hahahahaha you know alibaba means in arabic😅😅😅👍👍

Rk Mahib lottery hold my odds

Rk Mahib 😂

I like how Elon would not sit down until Jack Did witch Is a Sign of respect and I respect that.

watch 33:11 100 timesss before comrnting on jack

Like he said he doesn't worry about jobs. He doesn't worry about what he can't (has no clue) fix.

Sachi Basumatary anyone who bases theyre opinion on artificial intelligence become smarter than us on it beating in chess is an idiot but that’s obvious that doesn’t mean that he’s smart 😂

Sachi Basumatary it does have a factor though but if you BASE your opinion off it yeah what Elon said after explains against it perf😂

MC good for him... no one cares

😆

Which one ?

Shaswat what did he mean?

He meant Jack Ma's ignorant statement, and Jack Ma even agreed on that.

0.01 that's the joke

@Mani Veiszadeh yes it is

SIKE THAT'S THE WRONG NUMBER

Very funny joke

There is something subtle about delivering this joke; should be "80% of statistics are *made up*... on the spot..."

@Mani Veiszadeh feel the 80 here, it's a double meaning