SurRon Killer | Apollo RFN | Dyno

SurRon Killer | Apollo RFN | Dyno | EMX Shop Light kit

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Жыл бұрын

Baseline Dyno testing of the Apollo RFN bike. We also test out and install the Emx-Shop street legal light kit!
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@nathanwilliam1922 Жыл бұрын

Let’s get Jack to 100k people. No one else on KZfaq has a dyno for bikes. Period!!!

@DavisJDaniel Жыл бұрын

love the scooter/ ev content. the old 2 stroke videos were always killer. thank you for making killer content. love you brother

@e-mxshop3459 Жыл бұрын

The way it lights up the bike🤯 The white plastics look awesome

@JackCecil Жыл бұрын

its so good at night!

@AlphaEngineer2022 Жыл бұрын

Would love to see a tear down with the plastics all taken off 😊

@luclolo 2 ай бұрын

hi I would like to know how you installed the lights I don't see 12 volts I have the same in black

@eMotoAZ 5 ай бұрын

If you hold the power button down on the headlight long enough you get a daytime running light too

@SniperHDGaming. 10 ай бұрын

Does this kit from emx shop come with a headlight or no?

@egroegartfart Жыл бұрын

Hey Jack. These just released for sale last week in great Britain. And they said it will be here in the U.S. soon. Do you know any dealers here that are going to carry it or maybe we will have to order it online? I'm excited . Can't wait.

@jeffmcclain 9 ай бұрын

Wanted to see what torque it put out too. Should be ~300nm MAX at wheel (I get closer to 260nm with the 13/58 combo sprocket in theory, but I think production should come with 11/58?) with a 58nm motor torque output max...

@gmcnamee01 Жыл бұрын

Jack, have you got a link to the lighting kit?

@luclolo 2 ай бұрын

salut j'aimerais savoir comment vous avez installer les lumières je ne vois pas de 12 volts j'ai le même en noire

@MRGOLD99.999 Жыл бұрын

So when will these put out for sale?

@user-nt3io1mu3p Жыл бұрын

Καλησπέρα φίλε μου. Θα ήθελα να ρωτήσω το εξής: Ο ήχος που βγάζει πόσα ντεσιμπέλ είναι. Είναι δυνατός ήχος όπως σε κανονική Εντουρο;;;;;;

@danielloustaunau467 Жыл бұрын

You might be able to get plates for it they pitbikes that are street legal like a 110 cc with plates in phx. That would be a sick moto .

@user-go4ve4un1g Жыл бұрын

Battery is 20s 7p using Lg M50LT cells they will have to discharge over 20a per group to produce 12.5kw

@Shivampatel-ge3nq Жыл бұрын

jack will you tune my moto guzzi. i’m in swfl

@douglasyoung3992 11 ай бұрын

The rfn motor stator will likely not spin to the rpm of smaller diameter motors, so less top speed more torque.

@johnnymckissick2735 Жыл бұрын

When are these available?

@ubroberts5541 8 ай бұрын

The light kit is nice.

@2kcheetah 10 күн бұрын

When will the light kit be for sale???

@babar69110 9 ай бұрын

great job

@TeeOna2Stroke Жыл бұрын

I'm into it a little.

@taddaa83 Жыл бұрын

There is a higher output light like the one in your video. I believe it's 12000 lumens I use it for my e bike.

@ashleyzou3603 Жыл бұрын

12.5Kw is the peak power of battery can reach. While the peak power of battery will loss when it transfer to controller- Motor- chain- rear wheel- tires deformation, then we get the rear wheel peak power 7.5Kw as video shows. Also the tire pressure higher or low, Tire type (off road tire and city tire) also will affect the rear wheel peak power. City tire on same bike will be higher than off-raod tire.

@JackCecil Жыл бұрын

I understand that, but the marketing indicates the same style of rating as other bikes which would lead me to believe that power is measured as output and not potential.

@viko2812 Жыл бұрын

@@JackCecil Yes, but if you buying a 100 HP car, manufacturer also saying about engine power, not the power that delivered to wheals after transmission. No? (But for sure effectivity of BLDC not 100%, but someway in range of 80-95%) In any case Thank You for showing us difference between power (V*A) at BMS and power that you actually receiving from the wheal. probably that is common mistake (tradition) in DIY bikes to measure power of the bike using power that measured by BMS.

@JackCecil Жыл бұрын

testing the Surron showed an accurate 5kw of power as advertised. most bikes I test are very close to rated output. this test shows departure from normal expectations, but I think its well with the hardwares ability to exceed it. I just need access to the programming software.

@ashleyzou3603 Жыл бұрын

@@JackCecil that’s true and people is confused. The bike with light looks pretty good, and thank you to let us know the rear wheel peak power

@backcountyrpilot Жыл бұрын

You need a street tire for a wheel dyno.

@clifforddeschaine6346 Жыл бұрын

Wtf? That is bad ass!my mongoose ebike goes 43 ? But i ' m in love ...

@mikemedeiros5458 Жыл бұрын

It’d be cool if it had a foot beak also

@PUGETSOUNDMOTORSPORTS Жыл бұрын

I got an aftermarket battery for this lined up. Let's talk ⚡

@adma20 Жыл бұрын

Any idea when it becomes available on the US market?

@JackCecil Жыл бұрын

Hopefully by summer

@gtifury310 Жыл бұрын

Nice FD

@williamturpin6746 Жыл бұрын

Just got this bike with the 60 second rocket mode re map...I love it..I can't find these light kits anywhere pal? Where exactly do I go online for these??

@FATALROTARY Жыл бұрын

Where did u buy it from? looking to get 1

@ScottGratton Жыл бұрын

Were did you find the remap

@justinweatherly6520 8 ай бұрын

Any luck with how to get the remap ?

@wheelie_kel371 Жыл бұрын

I wanted to buy a suron but and loving this one, where can I buy one

@JackCecil Жыл бұрын

I will be offering them soon!

@mikewelpott8743 Жыл бұрын

I am with you. Since seeing Jack's first review, I have been searching for information about these bikes as I am in the market (have a surron) for another. And Jack says "I will be offering them soon!", care to share what "soon" means to you? as in months and weeks? Also, what is the ballpark pricing expected to be in the US?

@SURRONBikes Жыл бұрын

What did a stock LBX make ?

@JackCecil Жыл бұрын

around 6-7hp

@JohnDoeC78 Жыл бұрын

Jack will you be a official American distributor of all these E bikes? Maybe branch out to make mod packs/tuning, like Drift HQ but for e bikes? New branch, of HP LOGIC, E BIKE LOGIC? eHP-Logic? HP-LOGIC-E?

@JackCecil Жыл бұрын

I hope so!

@davevanguilder6793 Жыл бұрын

In 1975 I got 7 hp and 50 mph out of my XR 75

@sAINT898 Жыл бұрын

Let's see torque numbers

@jmyd83 Жыл бұрын

👍

@calikid7116 Жыл бұрын

Cool bike but awesome FD 😊

@maxedoutmachinemarine9172 Жыл бұрын

I get that it’s preproduction but almost 6 1/2 hp difference from what is claimed by the manufacturer seems like a lot to me even if you factor in drivetrain loss which should be a little to nothing, I’d really like to see them make good on their claim of 12 kW cause this thing has peaked my interest

@ashleyzou3603 Жыл бұрын

Under this testing, the bike cannot reach peak power, the larger the load is, the max out power reach 150A , then the bike can reach.

@JackCecil Жыл бұрын

I can load the bike fully using a brake. I just need the software to make adjustments in the bikes controller so I can fully test it. hopefully the next sample will have these available to me!

@hyper8545 Жыл бұрын

U still got the yellow 20b fd :0?

@JackCecil Жыл бұрын

Of course!

@manasseh7 Жыл бұрын

Are those bikes for sale yet ?

@JackCecil Жыл бұрын

not yet....working on getting it soon

@backcountyrpilot Жыл бұрын

Rear Wheel Dyno testing with knobbiest is a disservice to the vendor and your audience. You’re probably reading 20%-40% low. FWIW, I dyno’d hundreds of 2 and 4-stroke MX bikes from 1996-2006, many for annual magazine shootouts. We had a generic wheel with a street tire that fit many bikes, and swapped tires when it didn’t.

@tylerschwartz4327 Жыл бұрын

Is the elco gone?

@JackCecil Жыл бұрын

yes we sold it a while back.

@wheelie_kel371 Жыл бұрын

I need one, I been asking u

@DuhWongOne Жыл бұрын

jack i inspire to be as cool as you.

@manderson9289 Жыл бұрын

😀

@vmcmark7578 Жыл бұрын

DUDE, REALLY???WTF, OVER??? Just how is the front brake tube/hose going to move up & down after you JAMMED it behind the head lamp mounting bracket? If the wheel moves 10 inches or more, the brake hose NEEDS TO MOVE THE SAME AMOUNT & I hope it doesn't hang up and apply the front brake and send you over the bars & onto your head. I think that you need to try and rotate the mounting bracket up & back towards the speedo unit so the brake hose has some freedom to move. Good luck with that & the dude making & selling the kit should have a WARNING in the directions about that so nobody hurts themselves or anyone else during the CRASH!!

@WashJosh Жыл бұрын

I still think a surron is in its own class.

@brianN9955 Жыл бұрын

Tell them to keep the price down if not then people will just buy a SURON

@teardownuridol Жыл бұрын

Still need atleast one rear view mirror i believe, unless they changed the law in florida!

@e-mxshop3459 Жыл бұрын

I gave Jack a set, kind of bulky lookin unfortunately. I believe you are right though about the law

@JackCecil Жыл бұрын

yes the kit included a mirror but for my trails and farm riding it would only get in the way. I can always mount it if im goin g on public roads though!

@The_Privateer 10 ай бұрын

Eeesh, thats like 1/2 the advertised power. I can't get behind a company that lies like that.

@Dat_Sun Жыл бұрын

Ewaste

@heenalusurf2500 Жыл бұрын

casual rx7 fd in the background 💀

@lektro808 Жыл бұрын

10hp for $5k! They can keep it

@JackCecil Жыл бұрын

show me another e bike that can deliver similar?

@biggestthreattoyourexistence Жыл бұрын

The horse is bigger than your truck.

@JackCecil Жыл бұрын

Way bigger

@mrhqyangtechnic_q_emx8180 Жыл бұрын

no match against the Ultrabee

@mikewelpott8743 Жыл бұрын

Well that certainly depends. First is pricing. What is the actual pricing going to be? Then there is when can you get one? In that event, you are 100% correct, no match as you cannot even get the Apollo. Then quality...I know that Surron has been making some good moves of late, and that in the Pit Bike world, Apollo was not at the top of the list of Chinese bikes that one might want to start with...