The natural timing to block the kinetic energy is insane in some individuals, then Match that with a free arm. Thanks for this analysis Robby.

I watched this video not that long ago, just recently was watching N. Evoldi 2018 WS highlights and I didn’t need to see 2 pitches and I knew he was driving he looked just like scherzer and everything in this video clicked. Amazing way to translate into words what we are seeing.

Thank you for this, I appreciate the art of pitching a whole lot more

The most interesting thing to me is what the torsos of each is doing at the point of release. There is a lot more, or appears to be a lot more happening with deGrom

Can you do a breakdown of Zach Plesac’s mechanics please. He’s on the Cleveland Indians. Great Video btw!

Robbie this is really really good

Great break down without the too much analysis that bores everybody. I used to pitch in HS and American Legion and had decent velo but broke my pitching arm then it disappeared. Lol I went into tennis and found some similar principles in serving. I use them. if you watch some great servers like Roddick they use a principle like Scherzer compressing into the ground massively and pushing back up and out with the compressed energy release. Surprisingly I can serve around maybe around 110-115 mph by using assimilated skills from pitching though at my age of 70 I'm pretty much a freak. My kid who pitched minor league says 120 but ?? He hits in 130 mph as D1 college guys have to stand near back fence to return his 1st serve. I can blow it by these players as well when placed good. Lol. I sometimes think if I could teach Chapman to serve for a couple months I bet he'd break 150 mph.😮😮😂

Lincecum is someone who accelerated their body pretty well and produced a lot of power for a small guy

Two of the best to ever do it! And they’re on the same fucking team!!!!

Great analysis

I will help you out here. You are looking at the wrong thing completely. Degrom is one of those extension guys. He is lead leg dominant. In doing that, he looses efficiency with his lower body and relies more on the arm and upper body to throw hard. As we have seen, it taxes his arm wayyyy too much. He is filthy of course, but he can’t be a full season guy effectively with so much stress on the arm. Scherzer on the other hand, effectively uses is lower body. He is back leg dominant. At leg lift he tilts his pelvis and starts driving down the mound leading with his front hip. Then he rotates using his back hip. Degrom basically opens his front side and is less rotational. So if anything it should be extension vs rotational or front leg dominant vs back leg dominant. If degrom was to keep his upper body back some as he starts going down the mound, used more pelvic tilt, was more efficient with his back leg and didn’t reach with his front side, he might have less arm issues. His other issue is at release, his glove side is low/dead. From elbow to elbow he is just above 180 degrees. It needs to be less than 180. He needs to find a way to limit the stress on his arm before it shuts him down again. He is a stud and would love to see him keep dominating. Scherzer will be solid and have no arm issues other than fatigue with his great lower half as well as arm action. I think you are on the right path. I get to learn this stuff from the pros and elite training facilities.

You are officially my new guy!!! Outstanding insight!!

Does one or the other generally make pitchers throw harder?

Hello, I have been driving to the plate ever since I started pitching, but after trying to accelerate, I feel much better. Do you think I can convert, or are we stuck in these roles?

You said “Nolan Ryan didn’t move forward until peak of leg lift” was Ryan an accelerator or driver? Does that mean “not moving until peak” applies to both accelerate and drive? Thanks for the videos my son and I have had light bulbs go off from them.

They're on the same team now, so you're going to get a chance to make a lot of analysis.

Great vid

This is from the stretch. Which is better to keep a runner at first from stealing second?

What is your opinion on where the arm should be at foot plant?

I know this is an older video but I had a general question that I hope can get answered. Could it be the reason that Scherzer is such a "driver" is because of his windup delivery? I understand that this video is from the stretch but when he is coming out of the windup he uses the "over the head" approach. I wonder if the reason that he is such a driver out of the stretch is because he is accustom to the same motion out of the windup? Just an observation. As far as I know most of the "hardball hurlers" (both now and past) are accelerators. It also seems to me that new school approach is almost exclusively accelerator based, no?

Kinda scary how they on the same team this year 😳

Does this connect at all to er and ir hips as discussed by tread athletics. Drivers seem like ir hips who ride the pelvis while accelerators seem to not have as much pelvis coil in their leg lift and drive.

witch is better?

Both of em throw fireballs. Two slighty different approaches to rotate the hips with the kinetic chain that unloads all the energy straight at the target

Need to see degrom high leg in stretch. He's doing more of slide step here. If he does high like to see comparison or max in slide step I like to call it quick step

Kind of looks like a slide step with runner on 1st vs the stretch with no runner on... The coach in the back tells the story.

Now both on the same team

Pls 🙏 do mechanics of Randy Johnson and Chris sale

BOTH ON SAME TEAM LFGM

@Robby Rowland - Is There a better choice between accelerators vs drivers?

What’s the app you use to write your arrows onto the screen/video

So would aroldis Chapman be accelerator

Degrom is throwing a circle change

My favorite player is Max Scherzer

Slide step vs full leg lift?

DeGrom thrusts forward using his body to get his Ball velocity probably helping his arm overall

Khan academy of pitching

These two play for the same team now…

It seems that all ACE players are drivers.

Scherzer is a knee slam. Chapman is a driver(3x)

I'm amazed Scherzer hasn't hurt his shoulder. He flies open so early with his top half and has such a delayed arm swing.

Sounds like smaller guys should more than likely be accelerators

No hablo ingles

You just debunked the whole ground force theory by proving it's not necessary with the left-hand video example. . What is clear by minute 7:50 is that the throwing arm is at 10 o'clock/90 degrees at foot strike. And that the glove is tucked inward a split second before the foot strike. I think that the ground force theory might be more related to the front foot and not the back based on this video.

No one is better than DeGrom

deGrom has really long legs

Terrible vid. DeGrom has a runner in base this is his slide step

Omg, this could have been a third as long, get to the point