The False Evolution of Execution Methods

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The False Evolution of Execution Methods

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@gamemeister27 Жыл бұрын

@@bestaround0 Understandable have a nice day

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Hi, I don't know how things are right now, but for me this comment is not pinned, I had to scroll down to find it

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@gamemeister27 Жыл бұрын

@@stranded9225 you know Jacob Geller is a leftist, right?

@riotbreaker3506 Жыл бұрын

When a pharmaceutical company says "we cannot ethically sell this to you", then you know you are doing something absolutely ungodly.

@Roxor128 Жыл бұрын

Indeed! When a bloody _corporation_ has moral objections to your actions, you're at the bottom of a hole that's so deep that you're in danger of starting a volcano if you keep digging.

@20tigerpaw20 Жыл бұрын

@@Roxor128 or your just doing something that would cost them money/sales.

@minhkhangtran6948 Жыл бұрын

@@20tigerpaw20 Ye, and being *worse* than that shouldn't really be a quest objective to clear, tbh.

@pedroscoponi4905 Жыл бұрын

@@20tigerpaw20 Yeah, a health company that sells death is __terrible__ optics. No way marketing would let that through.

@mathsethorus89.5 Жыл бұрын

Especially with the modern practice for physician assisted suicide becoming more and more prevalent, them refusing those drugs to the government is extremely telling.

@ekki1993 Жыл бұрын

The fact that methods of execution are considered "more barbaric" by how much it makes the people watching it uncomfortable instead of by how much the people being executed suffer is painfully ironic.

@NotNitehawk Жыл бұрын

You ask me, the guillotine was far less barbaric, and a bullet through the skull is probably among the least barbaric. They make people uncomfortable though, so I guess that makes them more barbaric despite a rapid and complete death with a much lower likelihood of being botched.

@ekki1993 Жыл бұрын

@@NotNitehawk "Barbarism" is a stupid metric made entirely from propaganda. The bottom line is that killing a human is supposed to make other humans watching uncomfortable. Empathy is hardwired to our brains.

@user-yy8dh7bd4k Жыл бұрын

Many of those deserve suffering, but the people killing them does not.

@heroinboblivesagain5478 Жыл бұрын

@@ekki1993 You can empathize with the types of monsters put on death row? Red flag.

@ekki1993 Жыл бұрын

@@user-yy8dh7bd4k If you're talking about torture and deserving punishment then you missed the point of this discussion. A death sentence isn't torture. And it's not just about "deserving" but allowing the state to legally apply that sentence to anyone it deems appropriate.

@mavisavery4855 10 ай бұрын

Being unable to convey my agony because I’m paralyzed, muted, or otherwise stifled is one of my greatest fears. I once heard a story - can’t remember where from - of a man who had a stroke on a sunny day and fell on his back paralyzed. Passersby were thankfully able to do CPR and keep him alive, but because he was paralyzed, unable to close his eyes or speak, his staring at the bright sunny sky turned him blind. I imagine him laying there, feeling his retinas slowly burning and crying in his mind for the people to close or cover his eyes but unable to say anything as he slowly but surely and helplessly lost his vision.

@Michael-sb8jf 9 ай бұрын

If we are thinking of the same guy. It was in Australia. Guy picked up a blue ring octopus and got bit

@turtleanton6539 7 ай бұрын

Ouch

@turtleanton6539 7 ай бұрын

@@Michael-sb8jfdont do that

@amycox5733 7 ай бұрын

This story genuinely triggered my gag reflex, not out of disgust per se, out of sheer horror

@Aatell764 5 ай бұрын

Yeah I've heard this one, that'd be horrifying.

@jonesso11 Жыл бұрын

the biggest irony is the entire suggestion that it's possible to humanely kill another person

@hmp01 Жыл бұрын

you nailed it

@alexandertiberius1098 Жыл бұрын

It is possible, life isn't precious.

@gaddag1477 Жыл бұрын

⁠@@alexandertiberius1098Humanely killing has nothing to do with precousness of life. Ones view on worth of life is a personal opinion.

@alexandertiberius1098 Жыл бұрын

@@gaddag1477 it is pretty much the only reason to say it's not possible to humanely kill someone, though. If the person is not subject to pain or humiliation and is treated fairly beforehand, then it is humane.

@gaddag1477 Жыл бұрын

@@alexandertiberius1098 I had to look up meaning of the word humane , I guess you are right to an extent but i still think it cant be humane by definition becouse you still suffer mentaly becouse you know you are gonna be killed no? Sorry btw english is not my main language.

@Vranir Жыл бұрын

This juxtaposed against reading about a lawsuit filed YESTERDAY on behalf of an Indiana Man, who was essentially tortured by State Police for 20 days in solitary confinement leading to massive rapid weight loss and death from malnutrition and dehydration after he had not been charged with a crime, truly highlights the desire to hide the brutality of the Carceral System. That the brutality is at every stage and they just want you to ignore it all and be blissfully unaware while the system squeezes blood from the stone

@safe-keeper1042 Жыл бұрын

Another Tuesday in the American police state 😔

@Sputterbugz Жыл бұрын

you're goddamn right

@hesmycat Жыл бұрын

What should I Google to find out more?

@robertschnobert9090 Жыл бұрын

A significant amount of the police force and every single executioner takes pleasure in murdering people. Sadists. Monsters. How can our society create and employ people who experience intense satisfaction when murdering someone? 🌈

@MrCalijor Жыл бұрын

@@hesmycat just plug in key words, "indiana man dead solitary 20 days" pulled it up for me.

@z-beeblebrox Жыл бұрын

Fun fact! If you are a US citizen and get jury duty, and you wind up part of the jury for a defendant in a capital-eligible crime, if you express at any point that you have moral issues with the death penalty, you will be kicked off the jury and replaced with someone who does! Just throwing that out there if it ever comes up for you, in case that's useful info

@quellochebussa5084 Жыл бұрын

The American barbarism should be stopped. The nation is already soaked in the blood of innocents, and it will be only time before the innocents start to draw blood.

@natefroggy3626 Жыл бұрын

wait so is this a lifehack to skip jury duty

@marcusorta714 Жыл бұрын

@@natefroggy3626 I think it’s more of a “if you’re biased because you don’t want a person to *die,* know that telling people that means you no longer have any say in preventing it happen” Though your interpretation might be more accurate.

@michaeldurrant8446 Жыл бұрын

@@natefroggy3626 Please don't skip jury duty. Our adversarial justice system depends on your peers determining your fate and not an elected or appointed prosecutor.

@otakuinred Жыл бұрын

That's actually extremely handy, thank you

@shaurmiath6719 Жыл бұрын

I've never been able to square "humane" with "non-violent." People always talk like it's for the sake of not being cruel or causing unnecessary suffering, but things like the guillotine and the firing squad, while violent, are less prone to error and more effective in ending life quickly and efficiently. It's almost like the motivation isn't about being kind or humane, but a squeamishness to confront the enormity of what is actually being done. It's about self-deception, not kindness. They want to kill people, but are so frightened to actually be seen as killers. Personally, I am opposed to the death penalty, but I think if you're going to advocate for it, you should insist on something that is brutal and efficient. The guillotine, the firing squad. Not cruel, but still violent. Not neat and sanitized, but swift. If you're going to end a life, you owe it to yourself not to dress it up and pretend you're being gentle and kind. You're not. There should be blood. Not a spectacle, just a grim reminder that what you are doing is killing. You're not gently rocking someone to sleep, no matter how much you pretend you are. You are killing a person. I'm tired of these people pretending it's not. It strikes me as cowardice that these people are so bloodthirsty, and yet so terrified to actually shed any.

@aaboyz11 10 ай бұрын

It’s weird to say that I’ve *always* had this thought, but if the death penalty needs to be a permanent staple in “justice” for whatever reason, it should be public and it should be somewhat barbaric. I feel its somewhat juvenile and naive to think in my way, but at the end of the day an execution is designed to make an example out of offenders; it creates a system of fear rather than justice in that sense. On one hand, I can understand that people are inherently vengeful, but I agree that they shouldn’t hide the fact that, at the end of the day, they too are killers, the only difference is that they are backed by a system that allows for killing. The biggest issue is if it should be quick; and on that, no amount of suffering felt by the executed would matter to them if they ultimately die, and no amount of suffering will bring any sense of real justice to anyone else involved. This is all probably a common take, and I feel it parrots a lot of your points, but there are also probably people that straight up disagree and might have their own good reasons to do so.

@MortiefiedBear 8 ай бұрын

As someone who supports the death penalty on a moral basis, but not on a practical one, you've hit the nail on the head. At the end of the day, you're ending someone's life. What you're doing isn't glamorous, pretty, or kind. Maybe you're making the world a better place if the victim is a serial rapist or murderer, but even then, I see it the same way I see putting down a rabid animal. It's something that needs doing, but not something to take pleasure in. I'd rather my death be quick and painless, I know that much.

@bunk95 7 ай бұрын

Opposed to fiction and/or what its used to do? Are you sure?

@turtleanton6539 7 ай бұрын

That is very humane. Humans are deceptive and not kind.

@JustStop19 7 ай бұрын

By the way, in Belarus they still have a firing squads.

@dvol Жыл бұрын

I remember watching a documentary about exactly this question: What's the most humane way to execute someone? They actually found one: nitrogen asphyxiation. By all accounts, it's not only painless, it's euphoric. It's one method used in euthanasia -- Sir Terry Pratchett chose that for his own death. Then they tracked down a pro-death-penalty lobbyist to get his reaction. "That's horrible!" he said. It turned out that the people who want the death penalty aren't just apathetic about making it humane. They want the death penalty precisely because it's barbaric.

@playerunknown6932 Жыл бұрын

I say let eternity decide on suffering. Let us create a comfortable vessel in which to deliver the convicted to their judgement. Suffering is merely a crime committed against another soul, tainting the souls of those who inflict such suffering, whether they are perceived to be just or unjust.

@Dangeross369 Жыл бұрын

This ^^^ hypoxia is painless, never understood why it’s not used.

@oldschoolhistory3246 Жыл бұрын

It's not that people who favour executing the worst of the worst "want it to be barbaric", they want to enhance its deterrent effect by ensuring it clearly resembles punishment. See 'The Death of Punishment' by Professor Robert Becker.

@zap4th368 Жыл бұрын

@@shaurmiath6719and even then, is death itself not enough of a deterrent? If you believe in an afterlife you either think what you did is going to end up with you in the “good place” (meaning you would probably do it anyway) or you believe death means punishment for eternity. And if you DONT believe in an afterlife then death means total and complete cessation of being.

@anefariousgoose Жыл бұрын

What documentary is it?

@GandalfTheLysergic Жыл бұрын

Being only paralyzed while still fully conscious and feeling everything is such a horrible thought. It is literally the perfect example of “I have no mouth, and I must scream”. Absolutely brutal…

@linkfreemantheplumber2948 Жыл бұрын

"I have no mouth, and I must scream."*

@GandalfTheLysergic Жыл бұрын

@@linkfreemantheplumber2948 ahh thanks for the correction man, you are right! I’ll edit it now (:

@lua6586 Жыл бұрын

shit, wonder how the people he raped and murdered felt. "absolutely brutal" indeed

@mam0lechinookclan607 Жыл бұрын

it's fast over, in I have no mouth and I must scream it lasts eons

@mam0lechinookclan607 Жыл бұрын

damn I sure hate A.I. progress

@Gaawachan Жыл бұрын

I remember learning about lethal injection, and when I got to the drugs used, my immediate question was... "Wait, what's the paralytic for if the first drug puts them to sleep? That doesn't make any sense."

@tsibdatixpayac9594 Жыл бұрын

@repentandbelieveinJesusChrist2 go away weirdo

@zapazap Жыл бұрын

@Repent and believe in Jesus Christ Spamming for Christ?

@PinkManGuy Жыл бұрын

@Repent and believe in Jesus Christ Jesus loves you but he doesn't love this

@Charmlie.R Жыл бұрын

The worst part is that it kind of does, it implies surgical control. Disabling the body will prevent spasms unrelated to pain from impacting the process, and even if conscious should prevent struggling and allow the medical professional to retain control of the situation, putting you back out before you can rip IVs out or jump away. This sounds completely fine if attached to a surgery. Why paralyze a patient if they shouldn't feel? Because the movement would be worse. But this requires stakes and a professional to be monitoring, it makes the most sense coming from a purely medical perspective where a team of professionals are there every second with your best interests at heart. So it sounds good. It sounds surgical and elegant for a modern society. In reality it became a crutch, rather than identify when things failed to rectify it, the same paralytic is used to pretend nothing is wrong by foregoing the expert with instruments to detect that.

@nathanbennett9563 Жыл бұрын

Yeah the paralytic is important so there isn’t gasping and brain stem activity creating agonal breathing which is distressing for the executioner and witnesses. That’s why the states that have tried to switch to a opioid/benzo mix (Dulidid and Versed) which while deadly, can take quite some time to stop the heart and brain (opioid overdose deaths are from respritory failure, and while painless, it’s ugly and traumatic for everyone involved)

@nielsvanhemert7972 Жыл бұрын

40:35 I laughed out loud here. "Gosh, if we accept the claim that this is injustice, then the entire justice system can be called into question." There's a categorical obliviousness to this reasoning.

@MrBeef-sh3lc Жыл бұрын

It's not obliviousness. They know the system they support is fucked beyond measure, but they like it that way.

@echorises Жыл бұрын

I think this is different that obliviousness. It seems to me that he said that in a way that if they ever accept such an outlook, execution would be the lesser of their worries. He kind of warns the person who claims; thinking that he is on his side on this matter, and probably yes he was on his side ultimately.

@emiki6 11 ай бұрын

@@MrBeef-sh3lc I don't think it's about liking it or not. Many problems can't be easily fixed and many times the attempts to fix it make it much worse. Sweeping it under the rug may not be right, but it's understandable.

@from_no_where 10 ай бұрын

@@emiki6"understandable" in what way? How is it _understandable_ to knowingly support a system that isn't just flawed, but purposely constructed to be unjust. We're talking about a Supreme Court judge here as well, this isn't someone who simply doesn't understand the system, this is someone who is intimately aware of how it functions choosing to ignore it.

@ikhidealigbeh514 9 ай бұрын

@@emiki6What do you mean, the problem can't be easily fixed? Abolishing the death penalty would fix the problem of the state executing innocent people. It's very straightforward.

@bebephat Жыл бұрын

What’s also really sad about the Joe Nathan James case is that the victim’s family actually protested against the execution. They tried to appeal it and spoke out against it several times, but were denied.

@Frizzleman 9 ай бұрын

It’s relatively common that the victims of violent crimes don’t want to see their victimizers killed or tortured. There are examples of people who do want to see criminals killed for harming them but many grass roots organizations exist that see victims advocate against the death penalty and even prison as we know it. It’s more common then you’d think and then you’ve been led to believe.

@donpollo3154 9 ай бұрын

@@Frizzleman I suppose if death or pain has affected you so badly by that point, you wouldn't want to see any more of it, even if done to the victimiser

@wildfire9280 8 ай бұрын

@@Frizzleman Stuff like this stopped surprising me when I learned of the “American Rule” and the existence of a bail bond *industry.*

@bunk95 7 ай бұрын

Executions are fictional. Speaking out about killing and/or how its marketed?

@bebephat 7 ай бұрын

@@Frizzleman yes I’d know. I’m a victim myself. But I also live in Canada, so the death penalty wouldn’t even be an option. And if I was in the US I wouldn’t want the offender to receive it. My guess is news/media outlets don’t want to report on victims/victims’ families protesting against offenders death penalties due to the “optics”. Pretty messed up.

@robhogg6889 Жыл бұрын

15 years ago, a pro-death penalty British politician, Michael Portillo, featured in a documentary where he was seeking the "perfect" method of execution. And he thought he'd found it - inert gas asphyxiation. Flood a chamber with nitrogen, the person would become euphoric, fall unconscious, and die within a short time without pain. Portillo then presented this to an advocate of the death penalty from the US, Robert Blecker, who thought that it was "horrific". Blecker wanted the person being executed to suffer before they died. This seemed to shock Portillo ( kzfaq.info/get/bejne/iZ-JmrqJsKfbfo0.html )

@Lessinath Жыл бұрын

The Cruelty Is The Point. This is true with a ton of systems. If someone can't or won't work, why is the solution to see them kicked out onto the streets? Because they (They, always meaning established power - the state and the ownership class treated as one entity, if you will) want you to fear that possible outcome so you don't push for better wages or working conditions. Why do the police have less strict rules of engagement than the military? Because they want you to be too afraid of their violence to challenge the state directly. Oh and because an enemy can retaliate against your cruelty in a meaningful way, civilians do not. Why are prisons often the most intentionally horrible places with the most violence and worst conditions that local or regional authorities can get away with making? They want you to stay in line on your own out of fear of these horrific people cages literally more cruel than a zoo that they've crafted. Sadly Necessary Edit: More severe punishments do not decrease crime rates, this is seen over and over every time it is studied. And with all of these, and many more, the intentional cruelty is the point of it all, in the service of maintaining power.

@randombronypony Жыл бұрын

@@Lessinath That's so true. It's all one big conspiracy meant to control you. You're so enlightened.

@Snubbs Жыл бұрын

when i saw the "asphyxiant hazard" symbol in the intro I immediately thought he was going to talk about something similar later in the video. It just made the most sense as a method since it was quick, painless, and possibly the most sedate method to watch. When he didn't bring it up I was confused and thought I'd gotten something wrong, so I came down here to see if anyone else had a similar question. Of course the real reason was just an insane lust for suffering, because why wouldn't it be.

@devinward461 Жыл бұрын

@@Lessinath you're really not wrong

@arbiter- Жыл бұрын

@@Lessinath very well said

@damike5 Жыл бұрын

This is the longest Fallout: New Vegas dialogue interaction I've ever had. Complete with the long closeup of Jacob and his stationary hand gestures.

@Bloxxify1 Жыл бұрын

Take my like and leave

@snoobnoob9343 Жыл бұрын

Now I want to play new Vegas. I’m supposed to be writing, damn it!!!

@bernardopicorelli2369 Жыл бұрын

fuck now i want to play new vegas

@TasTheWatcher Жыл бұрын

It's almost as long as a quick chat with Ulysses

@MonkoK14 Жыл бұрын

When you stop by the old morman fort for some meds but end up getting lectured on execution for an hour

@matman000000 Жыл бұрын

It was never about finding a more humane way of execution, just a way that makes the public and politicians feel less guilty.

@flaminglemons4090 Жыл бұрын

Entire scientific community: The electric chair is not what you claim it is and almost always leads to botched executions that cause immense suffering and can actually be very messy. The American judicial system: No

@stefan4159 Жыл бұрын

"Almost always" You do realize that even the creator of the video, who is staunchly against the death penalty, literally admits at 16:25 that the electric chair is less error-prone than hanging? The most error-prone method by far is regarded to be the gas chamber...

@themistva 7 ай бұрын

@@stefan4159the most error prone method is lethal injection, he said that.

@bunk95 7 ай бұрын

Executions are fictional. Botched executions aka lobotomies?

@Victoria_Huot 7 ай бұрын

Eh still beats living another day

@skittlemilks1614 5 ай бұрын

@stefan4159 Why are you bringing up hanging and gas? They are specifically talking about the electric chair. Also that’s a logical fallacy. Breaking 1 femur bone is better than 2, but that doesn’t mean the 1st option is a pleasant one.

@Kaylakaze Жыл бұрын

The thing about the iron maiden is, if one did exist and was used for torture, it would not be designed the way they are depicted. A properly designed iron maiden would have a space in the center just big enough for the victim to stand in without getting punctured by the spikes or with only minor punctures. The torture comes in from them having to stand there for hours and days. If they rest or sleep, they'd fall into the spikes.

@TheStatisticalPizza Жыл бұрын

There were similar torture methods used in the middle ages, they would throw the victim down an incredibly small hole with barely enough room to stand. Often times these holes would have standing water covering the feet or crevices that allow rats from the castle to enter the hole.

@nomousecat Жыл бұрын

So basically the Chokey from Matilda.

@Kaylakaze Жыл бұрын

@@nomousecat I've never seen Matilda.

@vectorwolf Жыл бұрын

It's called an oubliette. Basically just a hole you throw someone in and forget about them. Honestly, that's how the entire penal system has always functioned... or mental health system or poorhouses... at the end of the day, it's not about punishment so much as taking all these corners of society that don't fit, lopping them off, and then putting them somewhere that they can be safely forgotten about.

@colorbar.s Жыл бұрын

@@vectorwolf as someone who's been in the mental health system, that's exactly what it is.

@niveauabulle5205 Жыл бұрын

In France, our school books usually state "Death penalty is nowadays only used in non-democratic countries, and the United-States of America" And it's absolutely hilarious.

@counterfeit1148 Жыл бұрын

I imagine someone is going to say that America is practically a non-democratic country

@intramentalstudios5573 Жыл бұрын

you could say the same about routine infant circumcision, majority of men born in America have their foreskin amputated without consent, at birth, because the medical / legal complex provides no genital protection to boys specifically. girls are protected as of 1996 but I think its cruel that boys are subjected to needless genital mutilation based on outdated tradition

@MaIinche Жыл бұрын

Unfortunately, that's not correct. For example, Japan still has the death penalty, though several murders have to be involved for it to be carried out. But it can be argued that democracy and the abolishment of the death penalty are closely related :)

@radogen7845 Жыл бұрын

@@MaIinche saying Japan's a democracy Is a bit of a Stretch, don't you think?

@Solstice261 Жыл бұрын

Spanish one's do the same, when I saw it I thought it was out of place, now I know democratic, first world country doesn't mean fair and just

@jmaitland5709 Жыл бұрын

Ironically enough, there's a method of execution from the barbaric medieval era that is probably a lot less barbaric and painful (both physically and psychologically) than most of these supposedly modern methods. Namely, execution by the sword. The 'humane' method was like a bit of theatre. When the victim was brought onto the stage, the executioner and a servant would greet them unarmed, the sword hidden from view in a basket or cabinet. The executioner would greet the condemned, ask their forgiveness, and then he would ask the servant to go fetch his sword. The servant would then leave the stage and go off in some other direction, and when the victim watched the servant go, the executioner would quietly retrieve his sword and kill them by decapitation. The idea was to spare the victim from the mental anguish of anticipating their death approaching, the little bit of theatre with the servant and hidden sword to give some comfort in the idea that they still had some time before their death was going to come. In isolation this doesn't really seem very humane either, it's still an execution after all, but when comparing it to hours of being strapped into a chair with belts, with a helmet and electricity or needles and chemicals, I know what I'd rather go through.

@elnico5623 7 ай бұрын

A modern version of this could use a gun, many guns maybe, from hidden holes in the walls or something

@JeantheSecond-ip7qm 7 ай бұрын

@@elnico5623The modern version should be a ban on the death penalty.

@priusqueef2505 7 ай бұрын

@@JeantheSecond-ip7qm why?

@rabenkonig6251 7 ай бұрын

@@priusqueef2505 Because the death penalty is inherently inhumane and barbaric, existing only to provide 'panem et circenses/bread and circuses' to the archonic sovereigns that "govern" us, the demiurges who think themselves infallible gods. But of course, I sense that you don't want to hear that.

@Gearheart8 7 ай бұрын

@@elnico5623en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genickschussanlage

@kungfuskull Жыл бұрын

So, 2 things have always *BAFFLED* me about this issue. 1: I have had many pets, sadly had to have them put to sleep due to extreme illness, and "put to sleep" actually is a good way of phrasing it. One minute hugging buddy one last time, next, not. No fuss. 2: I have had quite a few surgeries lately (15 in 2 years: it's a long story) and being medically curious I asked the anesthesiologist about the chems used, how they work: science is fun, right? And then he said something to the effect of "but don't worry at all: i'll be right there beside you the whole time." "Eh? That's sweet of you, but, if other people need you, please, go help them. Heck, how would I know anyway, right? Haha." "No no, I meant monitoring all the machines that keep you breathing and, well, alive." And then, a few mins later in my last 10 seconds or so of consciousness, as I could feel the meds forcing me to 'sleep' I remember wondering then, as I do right now, "why don't, for crimes, we just give like 4x this dose to be extra sure, and then NOT use the life saving drug and just... go to sleep? Isn't that FINALLY a fairly 'civilized' way to do it? Like, morals aside, only methodology examined here. And I brought this thought up with a veterinarian friend who said that's basically what they do for pets, tweaked a bit for cat and dog metabolism etc. So... yeah: why don't we just do that? I can say from firsthand experience: it seems quite ...gentle.

@PutkisenSetä Жыл бұрын

The video mentioned the American doctors' association barring it. So the answer is narcissistic top-down politics. Doctors are assuredly too fancy to participate and they'll make sure others fall in line by holding their license hostage.

@voidtheorist6618 Жыл бұрын

I mean, sadism is kinda deeply ingrained in the prison system, so I'd be surprised if they went with a more humane route

@debbiemcpherson2426 Жыл бұрын

Well frankly it is much easier to kill a dying animal than it is to kill a healthy animal. I mean that literally.

@publicguy1664 Жыл бұрын

As he said in the video, properly trained medical professionals can't take part in executions, so you only ever have non trained people trying to find the vein and often can't. Anesthesia won't work if it's not properly administered.

@debbiemcpherson2426 Жыл бұрын

@@publicguy1664 I mean, during surgery they have one person, an anesthesiologist, whose job is to administrator all those drugs so it has to be super complicated right? There's no way a random person can do that.

@Oroberus Жыл бұрын

The funny thing is, the lethal injection, rated objectively, is EXTREMELY inhumane - You're brought into a small, secluded chamber with a window, you can't se through but now you'l be watched without knowing who watches - You're strapped onto a medical stretcher - You're forced to witness how several needles are set up into your body - You're forced to feel how some sort of chemical is pumped into your body (at this point, you are still 100% concious and aware) - And then the actual horror begings, as the sedatives you got pumped into you will usually cause onlookers to think you lose conciousness but actually, you're just getting paralized while still being concious The lethal injection is not a method of a quick and humane death, it's a method of killing someone slowly and very painfully AFTER the person had to live through a mock execution (what in itself is rated as White Torture). And that's after sitting on Death Row for years or even decades, knowing you're about to die but not knowing when and constantly still having the glimmer of hope that you MIGHT be pardoned, what in itself also already is psychological torture There's nothing 'clean' or 'humane' about how 'we' execute people 'we' think should not be alive.

@Skaldewolf Жыл бұрын

This is something the GDR tried to avoid. Their method was called 'unexpected shot from close range'. You were led to a chamber, seemingly routine, you were informed that you are condemned to death and another warden steps up behind you and shoot you in the neck. Still gruesome and barbaric, but it at least spared the victim the slow, drawn out process of the lethal injection.

@Solstice261 Жыл бұрын

@@Skaldewolf Honestly that is more humane as death comes unexpectedly so there is no fear, still I am against death penalty but remember barbaric does not always mean more inhumane after all avoiding death penalty looking gruesome is done for the onlookers not the prisoner

@perniciouspete4986 Жыл бұрын

Now go through--with as much detail--exactly what the murderer did to his/her victim(s) to be given the death penalty.

@Solstice261 Жыл бұрын

@@Hambo325 you would kill a lot of innocents in court cases it is also decided if you're guilty of the crime along with stuff such as responsibility if you take away the need for a court case you essentially give the government a kill someone I don't like button and that is dangerous. On a side-note humane is meant to mean painless, as in the standards you should hold a human at

@Solstice261 Жыл бұрын

@@perniciouspete4986 if death penalty's reason for existence is vengeance we should give victims a torture room and led them act as they wish, it would make more sense than the state killing people as if it was painless. Either one or the other but not a weird middle point that makes people think it is to avoid crime

@spliter88 Жыл бұрын

I always thought of iron maiden as something that forced you to stay perfectly still. You can't relax, can't lean on anything, you're closed in it for hours or even days without being able to move an inch without being impaled, so makes perfect sense for me as a torture device.

@Ink_Wielder Жыл бұрын

I took a European history class in college once and thats exactly what they taught us it did

@anjabartlog496 Жыл бұрын

yeah i always pictured that the spikes were only long enough to just barely poke into you unless you moved closer but maybe not

@gremlinman9724 Жыл бұрын

the main issue is that, upon the door being closed, it would instantly pierce your lungs, heart, brain, throat, all sorts of things that you really need to stay alive.

@Dong_Harvey Жыл бұрын

I'm sorry, I accidentally un-niced your comment my liking it from 69 to 70

@atkvin Жыл бұрын

Hang on, that explanation for how it'd serve as torture just triggered a memory in my brain. Roald Dahl's Matilda featured that exact description of Trunchbull's torture room!

@nervousbreakdown711 7 ай бұрын

Nine months after this video was uploaded, the US brought back nitrogen gas for the death penalty

@VT-mw2zb 6 ай бұрын

And the state that does it now is telling everyon|: "we can help you set it up"

@AegixDrakan 6 ай бұрын

And, apparently, they messed it up. ;>_>

@ComputerGirlMae 6 ай бұрын

i was looking for a comment about this. i watched this video not long after it came out and didnt feel much except for being bolstered in my anti death penalty opinion that, i honestly think any reasonable person has but after reading that story this video is so much more grim. its staring us in the face that this isnt over, and its getting worse, not better

@d.lawrencemiller5755 7 ай бұрын

Been thinking about this a lot lately as the state of Alabama just killed a man with nitrogen gas, the first recorded use of this method of execution by any government.

@dolores111 Жыл бұрын

"utopian punishment" - what a horrifyingly great sentence

@GTAVictor9128 Жыл бұрын

It's what you call an oxymoron.

@FishySpiderGuy 10 ай бұрын

It brings to mind the world of Blasphemous, where the people are so whipped into shame and self hatred that the god they manifest is literally a suffering incarnate and everyone is miserable or racing to the bottom of it.

@Jartran72 7 ай бұрын

An oxymoron. Also not a sentence, those two words are a phrase.

@barbara5097 7 ай бұрын

That is not a sentence 😮

@chillerstones 6 ай бұрын

Paradoxical phrase

@MaxwellWilliams42 Жыл бұрын

On Valentine's Day 2022 I was the victim of a drive by shooting by a total stranger. The bullet went straight to the spinal cord and instantly paralyzed me, leaving me with no function or feeling below my spine. I was completely conscious the entire time. In retrospect though, what feels weird about the experience of having my spine severed is that it hurt surprisingly little. I felt a sort of body-wide electric shock, but the entire experience was so fast that the minutes I was waiting for an ambulance were pain free -- though they were very much NOT stress free! My input as someone whose had their spine severed: I'd take the guillotine. Preferably with a nice sedative pill administered orally ahead of time, IE an Ambien or some kind of benzo. The instant removal of nervous sensation means that you don't really feel the violent injury going on. While I personally oppose capital punishment because I think the multi year waiting game of death row is already cruel & unusual, if it's my time I'll take the blade to the neck.

@greanbeen2816 Жыл бұрын

There is like a 20 second period of apparent consciousness following decapitation by guillotine. Is that… I mean, do you really prefer that?

@Fiufsciak Жыл бұрын

@@greanbeen2816 Did the talking head tell that to you?

@storm6661 Жыл бұрын

@@greanbeen2816I could be misreading as I'm on very little sleep, but I believe their point was that due to nerve severance there was little pain, so even with 20 seconds of conciousness an ambien to reduce stress would make it better than any of these methods. Sorry that other guy was rude to you btw, I have no idea if the the consciousness thing is true but it should be explained nicely lol.

@kalthand Жыл бұрын

Dude I don't know. That comment hit diffrent. You decribed it in a way that really got into my head... that is a real absurde and scary feeling.. I hope you're doing good, man.

@kalthand Жыл бұрын

@@storm6661 dude i love your vibe. You are a nice person.

@randomPerson88399 Жыл бұрын

Incredible, over time our forms of executions have become more terrifying; more painful, and the pain less visible.

@pissapocalypse 8 ай бұрын

At least back then they didn't fucking lie. They just chopped off your head. They even invited everyone to come and watch. Now everything is hidden, and the suffering is blocked from view so people don't know what's happening. That to me, in a weird way, is so much worse. Because we aren't actually getting better. We're just getting better at hiding our awfulness and thats making it possible to be even worse.

@norbertscheibenreif8336 9 ай бұрын

Capital punishment has one flaw: it can't be reversed. If a mistake was made, and sentenced is not guilty, there is no way back. And mistakes are made, and can't be avoided

@breadstick4458 9 ай бұрын

Also the fact it doesn’t deter crime and is just a thinly veiled excuse for murder. But your right as well

@SkitGaming 5 ай бұрын

You can’t really undo time served either

@AMnotQ 4 ай бұрын

@@SkitGamingYou don’t NEED to, as long as the time served is time spent undergoing personal reform, guided by what should be a system which promotes reformation.

@SkitGaming 4 ай бұрын

@@AMnotQ if the convicted is innocent of the crime that landed them jail time, they don’t need to be reformed and their time in prison will undoubtedly leave them worse off than if they were free

@lilemont9302 2 ай бұрын

@@SkitGaming No, but legal compensation exists.

@GrEEnEyE089 Жыл бұрын

If a society deems it necessary to have a death penalty it should be done in a direct and reliable way like firing squad or beheading. Even if the method was absolutely painless talking a life is inherently violent. No one involved in the process can be allowed to pretend that it's "gentle" or "humane".

@topsyturvy6516 Жыл бұрын

Anesthize and shotgun to the brain

@fynlaycioban1126 Жыл бұрын

I agree, however, this does cause issues then for the people who are required to "complete" these executions; it is likely to destroy their life as well. Of course there is one very easy solution to all of this - just don't murder people because you are pretty sure they committed a certain crime

@livingangrycheese2668 Жыл бұрын

Yeah, something I've thought for a long time is that if people want a death penalty, they should be forced to watch the brutality of their choice. They shouldn't be allowed to approve it then hide away from their barbarism. I actually feel somewhat similar about the sanitisation of the meat industry, even though I eat meat.

@NyanCatHerder Жыл бұрын

Really, the "most humane" form of capital punishment would be point blank execution with a firearm. It's less about a reduction in pain and more about a reduction in the guilt felt by the perpetrator.

@livingangrycheese2668 Жыл бұрын

@@NyanCatHerder That or carbon monoxide poisoning for example. But capital punishment is just inherently barbaric so it still wouldn't be ok

@sirbodsworthrugglesbyiii964 Жыл бұрын

29:25 - Hits a bit too close to home as one such kid who has fallen into a campfire. I was about 8 years old. About 2 decades later and I still have the scars. Saying it's "not fun" would only be a minor understatement. I've received a number of injuries over the years, but that might just be the one that takes the cake. Nothing like falling onto your back and arms to find that yours skin has melted into hot coals which are now partially embedded in your flesh and continue to cook you. Thankfully my father had the presence of mind to pick me up and run me as fast as possible to a water spout at that camp site to cool the burn area (and coals). It wasn't until more than an hour later when we had finally driven off the mountain and to a hospital that those coals were finally removed. It's odd, a 3rd degree burn is supposedly supposed to cause such extreme damage that you can't feel anything. And I couldn't for the most part-- but pain, that was still present. I could still feel pain on those spots. The next.... year or two I believe (apologies, it's been a while, so the time-frame is a bit hard for me to remember) would consist of various weekly to monthly visits to a burn center for regular checkups and an eventual procedure to close an open wound on my arm that resembled a pit (where a coal had embedded quite well). Overall, my grade-school years were quite fun! All that context to say: I wouldn't wish that on anyone ever again. I'm quite happy to have that left the past and only some scars to remember it by. The only thing I could think of that would be worse is if the coals were a liquid and injected INTO my arm...

@maxine9321 Жыл бұрын

thats brutal

@GRIMkyzic Жыл бұрын

I hope you are doing ok

@maxine9321 Жыл бұрын

@@GRIMkyzic you too bestie

@royareyzabal823 Жыл бұрын

Thank you for illustrating that, when Jacob mentioned that statement I couldn't imagine the horrid pain. It's sincerely brutal and I'm sad that you or anybody had to suffer that. On the other hand, it makes the defeat of Anakin that more gruesome. lmao

@sirbodsworthrugglesbyiii964 Жыл бұрын

@@royareyzabal823 Lol, you make a good point.

@Eyelidyoinker 11 ай бұрын

Wrote a paper on this and decided that the most “humane” method of capital punishment we’ve actually used is a firing squad. Can’t botch that. Ended up advocating against capital punishment but nitrogen asphyxiation is actually pain free, they clearly just don’t want to give a painless death.

@Sleepy_Cabbage 9 ай бұрын

except for that one mexican guy who lived threw and escaped a botched firing squad attempt but yknow

@KaspYAR 9 ай бұрын

@@Sleepy_CabbageWho? I'd love to read about that, it sounds fascinating!

@TakopathTraveler 9 ай бұрын

@@KaspYAR Wenceslao Moguel

@Eyelidyoinker 8 ай бұрын

@@Sleepy_Cabbage that’s wild. I think I came across that but forgot. There’s always that one guy.

@lord_ozymandias 8 ай бұрын

@@Sleepy_Cabbagewell every single form of execution has it’s outliers. we should just abolish government sanctioned execution (and also the prison system as it currently functions but shhhh)

@Phartonium Жыл бұрын

Very good and useful work. I live in France, where capital sentence has ended in 1981, and where killings by cops are becoming more and more prevalent. Your conclusion hits home, even here.

@LuluTheCorgi Жыл бұрын

The weirdest thing about the death penalty is that we already know of an entirely painless way to kill people, inhaling gases like helium, your body still gets rid of co2 so you never feel like you are dying, you just get tired and fall asleep The cruelty is a feature, not a side effect

@jessegauthier6985 Жыл бұрын

Being shot in the head at point blank range is also pretty damn painless. But again, it looks ugly for the 'spectators'

@Robothuck Жыл бұрын

@@jessegauthier6985 you'd be surprised how many people actually dont die instantly from a shot to the head!

@jessegauthier6985 Жыл бұрын

@@Robothuck No, I wouldn't be.

@bannedmann4469 Жыл бұрын

@@Robothuck Exceptions, not the rule.

@starsiegeRoks Жыл бұрын

@@Robothuck then shoot again, the beauty of a gun is that you have multiple bullets in it. Still better than watching someone chemical burn to death for 30 minutes.

@daniellewasdelayed8921 Жыл бұрын

The excerpt on Pancuronium Bromide immediately calls to mind a particular episode of Doctor Who, one of the final ones during Capaldi's run, where one of the characters is stuck in a hospital. All of the patients there are hooked up to an IV, their bodies completely covered, only able to communicate through words on what's basically a soundboard. "Pain" is one of those words, and we see it repeated by one until the nurse comes in and turns a dial on top of the IV. The audience and character would both presume that it was increasing the medicine dripping through their veins until we move up and get a look. That dial was labelled "Volume." Their suffering didn't matter, only whether or not you could hear it.

@eiliscantsleep Жыл бұрын

One of those weird moments of *perfect* horror that dr who comes out with sometimes.

@SinHurr Жыл бұрын

Has a very early Twilight Zone vibe to it

@BrakeTheGame Жыл бұрын

Yeah i remember it, truly horrifoc

@royareyzabal823 Жыл бұрын

wtf is Doctor Who about?? I never imagined it'd have that type of content, I just thought it was about the story of this weird entity that reincarnated in a body or something.

@daniellewasdelayed8921 Жыл бұрын

@@royareyzabal823 I can't speak to the original series but the reboot series (2005) is a sci-fi show where a person named The Doctor flies around in his ship through time and space, often with a companion, and encounters neat sci-fi stuff that he can solve through being clever and hopeful. Each incarnation have different specific vibes, but the heart of a lot of it is that he helps anyone in need, not for a reward or affection, but because he's *there* and he *can help*. Being the last of his kind (kinda sorta) and being someone who has a significant amount of blood on his hands from looong ago informs a lot of his deep empathy. But also, it's just an often goofy lil sci-fi show where you get to see neat things and cool ideas since nothing is really off limits.

@DerPacket Жыл бұрын

Jezz, this was a grim topic throughout, but the ending still took a dark turn. The picture that you were painting in my head was basically that from Judge Dredd. The similarities to short process executions, that we only really know from war times, still being very much alive on the streets today. I never really thought about police brutality in the context of capital punishment.

@das8.kapitel260 Жыл бұрын

Here in Germany we don't have the death penalty. A humane death is a nonsense phrase in itself. You can't take back a death.

@KalashVodka175 Жыл бұрын

Germany has the opposite problem, tho. Extremely laxist to the point of protecting mass rapists and serial killers instead of protecting the average citizen against these monsters.

@PhantomGato-v- Жыл бұрын

Good point indeed.

@KalashVodka175 Жыл бұрын

@@debesys6306 Here's the problem : in most countries where death penalty has been abolished, prison sentence also became more lenient over time, and first degree murderers getting out after 20 years of imprisonment (many years yes, but nowhere near enough for someone who murdered an innocent in cold blood) is the norm and no longer the exception.

@das8.kapitel260 Жыл бұрын

@@KalashVodka175 I can't speak for every country, but here the why and how of a murder is extremely important. A abused wife who kills her tormentor, is treated differently than a man who killed someone in a failed robbery to feed his family or a lunatic who killed a girl or a man who cold-heartedly killed a prostitute. The later two would be up for psychologists to evaluate. If the potential of them hurting anyone else were to high they would be contained in a special facility.

@KalashVodka175 Жыл бұрын

@@das8.kapitel260 Hence the notion of degrees of murder : A first degree murder is committed with malicious intent and is premeditated. Regardless, the problem stays the same, and is one that has plagued all of europe in recent "moralist" years including Germany : prison sentences are way too lenient, WAAAAY too lenient against irremeedable monsters, and as a result child molesters inevitably get out of prison after small sentences (relative to their horrific crimes) only to commit the exact same thing once freed. Same goes for murderers, rapists, organized criminals etc. A justice system that is too lenient against violent criminals is one that is failing to protect its citizens and failing to uphold justice. Thus, it is intrinsically an unfair, unjust system perpetuating a hateful cycle against regular peoples who become victim of this lack of justice.

@sfglim5341 Жыл бұрын

Every time I thought that this video wouldn’t get more barbaric and horrifying, it did. Fantastic video as always.

@Wh1teNoise616 Жыл бұрын

This video came out 50 minutes ago, how did you comment yesterday?

@gorn5264 Жыл бұрын

@@Wh1teNoise616 Patreon. 7$ subscription allows early video access (it sounded like an ad right now, but okay)

@greendude0420 Жыл бұрын

That’s a Jacob Geller video sometimes for ya

@Alianger Жыл бұрын

Yes, as long as we recognize the sin it's cool to engage in it

@Wh1teNoise616 Жыл бұрын

@@gorn5264 ah

@wHat-tHe... Жыл бұрын

The discussion surrounding the death penalty and the search for a most "humane" way to kill someone always reminds me of something my (german) history teacher used to tell us frequently: "Humans are great at many things, but they are best at finding new ways to kill each other" He said this during classes on the french revolution, WW1 and WW2 if I remember correctly. People will always find ways to make murder more "efficient", meaning, killing large amounts of people fast. Claiming that any way to forcefully take another persons life could be considered humane is just a way of justifying murdering them at all.

@Tiny_Koi Жыл бұрын

Your teacher was correct. Humans are inclined towards efficiency even when it is not needed. Often our strive for efficency leads to crulety and creates issues where there was none.

@KraytTheGreat Жыл бұрын

I wouldn't say that humans will always strive for more "efficient" ways to mass murder. I'd argue that this strive for an efficient, clean way of killing people is the flip side of the enlightenment. We were promised, that we could control nature by scientifically exploring it (which is great by the way). But this achievement has a really dark side: we as humans are also part of the nature, even though we may often think that we are above it. And so our death is part of that, too. And in the end, this led us into places like Auschwitz, Majdanek, Sobibor and many others.

@JallyJam Жыл бұрын

@@Tiny_Koi but to be fair its also has lead us to the point in history of the lowest amount of human suffering ever. war sucks but the fairy tale we are all the same has just deluded people to why we have war.

@deantebritton 11 ай бұрын

The line about our prison population being constitutionally enslaved earned you one more subscriber from me. This is my first video of yours I've come across and I will always subscribe to those that are willing to spit facts, no matter how hard or cold they may be. People love to think slavery was abolished after the civil war, but in actuality they just compromised and added a clause in the Constitution to keep it around and renamed it to save public image.

@Whitefang8128 7 ай бұрын

All states without exception own their subjects.

@SkitGaming 5 ай бұрын

Ah yes, I remember when the pre-civil war slaves were kept by plantation owners because they robbed convenience stores

@iplayeddishonored2475 4 ай бұрын

@@SkitGamingdo you think people who rob convenience stores deserve to be put to forced labour? Do you think slaves had to prove a degree of moral upstanding to earn their freedom?

@SkitGaming 4 ай бұрын

@@iplayeddishonored2475 One of these people has committed a crime, the other happened to be born in the wrong place at the wrong time

@yourpalal4596 9 ай бұрын

As someone who was previously in favor of capital punishment, one "pro" argument I remember being brought forward was that the death penalty would cost less than a life sentence in prison, since that would mean theoretically 50+ years in jail and tax dollars. However, due to the fact that trials where the death penalty is considered typically take longer, spending time in prison awaiting death row (typically at least 10 years), and the cost of the drugs used for the execution, it actually costs more than life-in-prison sentencing. There's something poetically ironic about all this in the USA, where healthcare is a privilege. It's expensive to keep someone alive, but it's also expensive to use 'medical' means to kill someone.

@SiTheHedgehog Жыл бұрын

Jacob's first video I watched: "Hey check out these cool games that give mad spooky house vibes" Jacob now: "Let's take a deep dive into the psycho-social effects of execution" I love seeing this channel tackle more and more abstract and challenging ideas, each video gives even more opportunity to see his talent.

@hugostiglitz491 Жыл бұрын

Bad ass, I love it

@stalin3000 Жыл бұрын

he was always like this bruh

@lilyofluck371 Жыл бұрын

he always has and always will do both lol

@shytendeakatamanoir9740 Жыл бұрын

@@lilyofluck371 Quite often at the same time

@TheJudoJoker Жыл бұрын

Kevin of VSauce 2 has had a similar arc. VSauce 2 several years ago: Fun little side content of VSauce talking about math paradoxes and oddities VSauce 2 now: How police and governments incorrectly and/or inappropriately use math and analytics in ways that fuck people over.

@RandomGameCritic Жыл бұрын

So, the second drug in the lethal injection cocktail has absolutely no benefit for the person being executed and the drug's sole purpose is, in fact, to make the victim unable to convey how much agony they're in if something goes wrong, just so that the people _administering_ the drug can feel better about themselves? I didn't think that I could be surprised anymore by the level of sheer indifference and contempt we have over convicted criminals in America, but somehow this little bit of knowledge was enough to make my blood boil.

@commisaryarreck3974 Жыл бұрын

Who do you think receive the death sentence? Afraid you'll join then as a kiddie diddler?

@LordZurkov Жыл бұрын

I guess it also provides a second way to kill the person if the execution is sufficiently bungled. A paralytic can also cause suffocation. 😬

@YoMomsDaBombDotCom Жыл бұрын

This is why we go back to hanging.

@bunsenn5064 Жыл бұрын

Here’s the deal about Death Row. If you made it to Death Row, then you’ve gotta be a seriously screwed up person who did a seriously screwed up thing, so I’d be pretty indifferent as to what happens to people like that. However there is a caveat. And it is that there are, on occasion, innocent people who are sentenced to death via false conviction. The existence of those falsely convicted people creates a pretty compelling argument to not sentence people to death.

@RandomGameCritic Жыл бұрын

@@painhurtssometimes2185 You know, there are countless studies that show that being softer on crime and treating convicted criminals like human beings actually makes crime go down across the board. That's what happens when the main focus of your criminal justice system is public safety and not retribution.

@breakinglegsandbreakinghea3167 9 ай бұрын

Prison is more about profit and sadism than it is rehabilitation. It's disgusting. There are some crimes that I feel are irredeemable but I have no right to dictate who lives and who dies.

@strawberrysyren 18 күн бұрын

i remember reading somewhere that no matter how much you think someone deserves to die, society should not be run on your worst impulses, and it's really stuck with me.

@breakinglegsandbreakinghea3167 18 күн бұрын

@@strawberrysyren exactly, and if I was in a situation where someone I love and care for has been a victim of a heinous crime i'd want to take the law into my own hands but I make bad decisions, if I choose who lives and does once, what's stopping anybody else from having that same power? We as regular people shouldn't have authority of who lives or dies.

@russman3787 17 күн бұрын

@@breakinglegsandbreakinghea3167just to put it out there, that’s why we have a legal system to handle crime instead of letting the victim decide.

@Hodoss Жыл бұрын

Some of the most brutal deaths are also the quickest and painless. The people at the epicenters of the atomic bombings were vaporised before they even registered anything happening. We must therefore move on to the new, most modern and humane solution, Execution by Nuclear Bomb.

@EngineerMonkey-zp3yj Жыл бұрын

Most sane KZfaq commenter:

@Hodoss Жыл бұрын

@@EngineerMonkey-zp3yj Thank you. Execution by being dropped into a Black Hole would be pretty cool too, but I'm not sure it would be painless. Plus we don't have easy access to a Black Hole, for now.

@rge9992 Жыл бұрын

I‘m going to be honest: this is horrifying. As a medical professional, I‘ve seen treatment of people I‘d consider inhumane. I‘ve seen modern medicine go to far and and prolong the suffering of people. I‘ve witnessed human beings spoken about as commodities in a system. But through all of this, the goal was always to assure life and quality of living to our patients. I can imagine watching someone die. I support a humane way to go for people who want to end their own suffering. But I can’t imagine killing a person, a mind and soul, against their will. Giving a lethal injection to a resisting victim would kill some part of me as well. Thank you Jacob for discussing this chilling topic with your usual level of research and respect. Looking forward to all the light and heavy videos from you in the future.

@therilyncobrin2372 Жыл бұрын

it's interesting to see comments saying they're glad you're branching out. They're wrong. the first video I ever watched of yours was the video talking about vigilante justice, the punisher, and police brutality. You've consistently had big ideas, not just about video games but about the meaning of art in the wider world. You've constantly expanded my world and taught me how to look at art, video games, and the system I live inside. thank you for being a teacher, professor, and mentor to me and so many other people.

@twingolord Жыл бұрын

I was worried in the first half

@maxwell_edison Жыл бұрын

Veganism Video when? If he likes talking about this sort of thing, whew, I have quite the news for him...

@Woot100 Жыл бұрын

Mmhm. When I saw this my first thought was his older videos Rationalizing Brutality and Designed For Violence, which are both in a similar vein to this one. This feels like a very natural evolution of concepts he's been mulling over for a very, very long time. I mean, hey-- at the end he even mentions the old essay he wrote on this!

@tipx2master788 Жыл бұрын

Well written comment and I agree. People should at least read some of the rest of his video titles before saying "can't believe you aren't talking about video games!!!"

@justamanofculture12 Жыл бұрын

W youtuber/teacher/philosopher ......

@xavierisrael3320 10 ай бұрын

The story of lethal injection is classic dark-Americana imo. The shocking brutality and cruelty, under the guise of humanity and compassion, delivered at incredible financial and ethical cost, clouded by careerism and incompetence. So many of the same themes as our involvement in Vietnam. Also, team firing-squad ftw

@turtleanton6539 7 ай бұрын

Yes

@elijoby Жыл бұрын

The electric chair is a very strange way of killing someone. I swear I heard that it was first introduced by Edison because he wanted to show how dangerous Teslas’ AC is (as part of a personal vendetta he had on the man). It was a massive disaster the first time and several times since (I also remember hearing about a black kid who was electrocuted three times before he died. After the second he begged for it to just be over and done with, even though a lawyer thought he could win his case).

@MagicMuffin63 Жыл бұрын

I was hoping you'd address gunshot/decapitation execution, and indeed you did: it's absolutely about the aesthetic, not the function. If people ACTUALLY cared about delivering a humane, quick death, then those two would so easily be the top methods.

@user-fh7cz7eo8l Жыл бұрын

i think most humane cheap and clean would be gas chamber/mask pumped with inert gas like nitrogen or helium, you only feel suffocation and panic because of c02, these gasses displace oxyegen and you don't produce c02 so your brain doesnt know it isnt gettibg oxygen. like carbon monoxide is the "silent killer" because you pass out and dont wake up

@alqualonde2998 Жыл бұрын

True. Destroy the brain in a single action like it's done to cattle. Decapitation,while rare, might not cause instant death .

@komfyrion Жыл бұрын

One of the last executions by firing squad in Norway took place in 1947. The police unit who were to take part in the firing squad had already executed two people the previous year and suffered trauma from the event. Because of this, and because of growing opposition to the death penalty, the police department vigourously protested the sentence numerous times to the department of justice. They were overruled and were forced to carry out the executions regardless. They swiftly executed the 8 convicted men in the span of 45 minutes and the officers involved never spoke of it again, probably because they didn't want to be associated with the event or give the convicted a status of martyrdom. The convicted men were nazi collaborators who had infiltrated the resistance movement and committed horrible acts of violence. I think most pro death penalty people would say they deserved it. However, it is quite tragic that the death penalty itself brings trauma upon those who are forced to perform the execution (and clean up the mess, etc.). It's not exactly a healing process and I think that fact is rather inescapable. The medical profession's unwillingness to touch lethal injections is the same as those police officers' unwillingness to partake in the firing squad.

@average_osiris_enjoyer5914 11 ай бұрын

@@komfyrionthen use a self-firing or time-triggered gun

@Nachosbroheem Жыл бұрын

Jacob - "How do you think an iron maiden worked?" *Me, laying in bed covered in Dorito dust, slightly out of breath from sitting up out of interest* - "Fuck me Jacob I dunno"

@garnetbezanson1404 Жыл бұрын

Galloping basslines and twin guitar harmonies

@euthymialy Жыл бұрын

Best comment

@wombatkins Жыл бұрын

I'm in this picture and I don't like it

@CmdrLegion Жыл бұрын

Nice.

@peterbonucci9661 Жыл бұрын

Every time I saw an Iron Maiden, I wondered how you close the doors. It just didn't seem possible.

@hallquiche Жыл бұрын

I've long been an opponent of execution of criminals. I'm from northern Europe, and it didn't even occur to me that capital punishment was taking place in the western world until I was a teenager. It's a morbidly fascinating concept to me, and I've spent many hours researching about the death penalty since I was fourteen. Your points in this essay seem to perfectly tie up the opinions I have, but have been unable to coherently verbalise due to how complicated the whole matter is. The whole iceberg of executions is one of many things I find odd about the US. One of many relics of the 1800's that have died out in the rest of the western world, but somehow remain intact in the states. It has made me wonder, what the true underlying incentive is? Who's gaining from it? It's not the population. Strict punishment has continually proven to be linked to higher offending- and reoffending rates. The best explanation I've come up with is that just as the USA is seen by many as an international protector of democracy, an international all-righteous police force, leaders within feel the need to project this same facade towards its own population. A reminder that the state has the right to do things you aren't, and there's nothing you can do about it.

@bunk95 7 ай бұрын

The fiction and/or how its used?

@KatietheKreator 4 ай бұрын

The death penalty is just so counterintuitive because of the innocent people on death row as you mentioned. You can set a prisoner free but you can't un-kill someone

@austinobst8989 2 ай бұрын

Exactly. This is too often ignored by proponents of it.

@russman3787 17 күн бұрын

Well, you can’t give a prisoner years or decades of their life back either

@trans_ylvania8537 Жыл бұрын

“To see a murder carried out at a leisurely pace in front of a crowd, was to recognize that the institution doing the killing was unquestionable.” CHILLS. The parallels to today’s political climate is truly disturbing, thanks for making and sharing such profound insights.

@Sarah-re7cg Жыл бұрын

I used to be an international relations major so we studied in-depth all kinds of legitimacy for government. Brutality and cruelty was to suppress and keep in total control citizens in authoritarian regimes. It’s never about justice or fairness, it’s always about forced compliance and chilling any kind of freedom. Something people don’t really know is that these things can also cause uprisings from citizens, and that’s exactly what you see from the black community in the US. It makes me so sick to my stomach how much of the media does the heavy lifting of authoritarianism by the way they cover these extremely valid protests and uprisings. It’s disheartening to see how many Americans openly support brutality and authoritarianism while in the same breath screech about “freedom.”

@daemonsilver3304 Жыл бұрын

@@Sarah-re7cg Yeah, Democrats suck, alright.

@mixedvibes9613 Жыл бұрын

@@Sarah-re7cg the reason they feel that way is almost always because of a lack of understanding or a straight up refusal to attempt to understand.

@Bobo-ox7fj Жыл бұрын

@@Sarah-re7cg Sorry, why do you say *was*? Your nation (and most others) is working around the clock to suppress its citizens with the threat of brutality and the fear of three dozen non-existent threats. Yet, the mass media holds up suicide-by-cop drug addicts as modern day saints, which people actually collect donations (lucky they all Bought Large Mansions and are going bankrupt without a cent of that going to any worthwhile cause), erect shrines and idols (plenty of video evidence, goes well with a voiceover of Exodus 32), stage riots (with such twisted coverage that people now use "mostly peaceful" to mean "total boogaloo") and pray on behalf of/to. There wouldn't have been any riots if your media giants had just ignored it like they do all black-on-black and black-on-white crime.

@davidparker9676 Жыл бұрын

@@Sarah-re7cg The media will validate and stoke the fire of one protest, and ignore or vilify another. You are showing your bias with your "extremely valid" protest comment. What makes a protest valid or invalid? Who is the arbiter of legitimacy? What justifies the violent targeting of a specific race, social class or belief system? How exactly does violent rioting, looting and arson become "extremely valid" protest? Your indoctrination is showing. Worldwide, capital punishment was common, an efficient punishment and delivery of justice to the victims. For the entire history of humanity, it is nothing new or novel. What is new and novel is warehousing offenders for life. Even worse is releasing these same violent offenders on parole to re-offend, creating more victims. Recidivism rates do confirm the vast majority of these convicts will fall back into their same patterns and victimization. The real world is ugly, humans are violent to one another, if you want to live in a peaceful society, you must have a functional justice system. Violent individuals need to be removed from society and the punishment should eliminate the possibility of repeat offense. The simple fact is that you live in a peaceful society because of the justice system you despise. If you want to live in your perceived utopia, go into a failed state, one with no functional government or official justice system. You will quickly find that vigilante groups are far less concerned about due process or making things comfortable for the offender. Take your pick, someone is going to do it if the state does not. That someone will probably not be accountable to you nor will you have any vote or say in the matter. Go visit a third world country in civil war, see how terrible the USA is in comparison. The truth is that you are a spoiled and entitled brat that wants to tear down the society that has kept you safe.

@KayAndSkittles Жыл бұрын

I consider myself at least somewhat knowledgeable on this topic and I had no idea that all those American medical organisations had officially condemned lethal injections. That feels like the first thing people should be told when they learn that the death sentence is still a thing.

@dwinthrop1015 Жыл бұрын

It’s been a while and I’m not sure who said this, but a veterinarian commented on lethal injection by saying that he would be prosecuted if he euthanized an animal that way.

@marvalice3455 Жыл бұрын

@@dwinthrop1015 well yes. We aren't euthanizing criminals though. It's a fundamentally different situation

@nmlss-r9 Жыл бұрын

@@marvalice3455 So in your opinion is not enough to kill the prisoner and we should torture them beforehand? Even if sometimes the one convicted is innocent?

@marvalice3455 Жыл бұрын

@@nmlss-r9 No. But what do you think is justice for the worst crimes people can commit? In your opinion?

@h4724-q6j Жыл бұрын

@@marvalice3455 "No. But yes"

@fluffyraichu9706 2 ай бұрын

28:53 Jesus Christ. Even having doctors search for a vein on me for anesthesia that lasted a fraction of that time was painful and unpleasant. They'd poke, fiddle around with the needle that's still in my skin, take it out, and repeat several times until they give up and find a team with an ultrasound to find a good vein. I can't imagine hours of it without any proper tools or even qualified medical professionals.

@JohnJohnson-jr6hp Жыл бұрын

"One may feel a certain indifference to the death penalty, one may refrain from pronouncing upon it, from saying yes or no, so long as one has not seen a guillotine with one’s own eyes: but if one encounters one of them, the shock is violent; one is forced to decide, and to take part for or against... The guillotine is the concretion of the law; it is called vindicate; it is not neutral, and it does not permit you to remain neutral." -Victor Hugo, Les Miserables

@nondescriptname Жыл бұрын

Almost surreal to see them admit the precarity of our criminal legal system "Yeah, these findings are pretty damning but we're going to ignore that because it would be inconvenient."

@AsymmetricalCrimes Жыл бұрын

Judging by your profile pic I doubt you genuinely care about state executions.

@nondescriptname Жыл бұрын

@@AsymmetricalCrimes Then you have poor judgment and do not understand what it represents. I also can't help but notice that this response neatly sidesteps the actual existing issues our society has in favor of a hypothetical and personal aspersion. Beautiful.

@blackosprey2219 Жыл бұрын

"I'm not gonna address this problem because it's inconvenient and unprofitable" sums up a whole lot of law, criminal and civil.

@SicklyWindows Жыл бұрын

Replying to say I like your pfp

@LostLargeCats Жыл бұрын

@@nondescriptname what is the pfp about? I don't recognize it.

@seraph535 Жыл бұрын

"finally, we've removed ourselves from barbarity by simply delegating the barbarism to a system responsible only to itself" A painful statement

@timmyhoward6638 Жыл бұрын

That’s only with the understanding that killing under any circumstances is barbaric, that’s wrong.

@SinHurr Жыл бұрын

Would thumbs up but don't want to ruin the 69 likes

@nikolaschelucci8388 Жыл бұрын

@@SinHurr do it now and it wil be 100

@GeometryDashKenaz Жыл бұрын

Not really powerful when he's basically saying that every single time a cop killed someone it was barbaric which is just blatantly false. He really tried to act like every cop killing was an execution done solely because they wanted to play judge jury and executioner and acted like no cop can kill in self defense

@masonwillms2542 Жыл бұрын

@@timmyhoward6638and saying that delegation to a just civil authority is equally as moral as the punisher going on a tear, even if he wasnt all to sure if they were guilty

@kaylag5043 Жыл бұрын

I think the iron maiden could have made a very effective torture device. If the spikes were shorter and left just enough room for a person to stand upright, it would be drawn out discomfort until the victim didn't have enough energy to keep themselves up, at which point they'd be impaled.

@Lhaenen 8 ай бұрын

Why

@SloppyPuppy Жыл бұрын

Knowing that any justice system may be in one or another way flawed, that leaves room for error in justice, and methods of execution, I do not see how it's not absolutely despicable to even have the capital punishment as a legal mechanism.

@middaymeds Жыл бұрын

I'm so glad you've branched out beyond video games. Not that I don't enjoy your game analysis, but you're such a talented storyteller that it would be a shame to limit your scope to just one medium.

@raph2550 Жыл бұрын

Exactly, this man has the potential to create so much good in the world

@sodamustdie4372 Жыл бұрын

Fully agree

@tipx2master788 Жыл бұрын

What? He never *just* talked about video games.

@lpnp9477 Жыл бұрын

Yeah I don't care for the game stuff but his essays are amazing

@plugshirt1762 Жыл бұрын

bruh what the majority of his videos aren't even about games they're about wider topics that games are often a good example for among other media. For this particular essay it would obviously be wildly inappropriate and widely irrelevant to use any such examples

@omega2279 Жыл бұрын

Yes, the guillotine is demonstrably the most painless and foolproof of execution methods, and it was Dr. Guillotin 's entire intention. But indeed, the device looks so barbaric I can remember being scared of it as a child. (Doesn't exactly help it was introduced in the period of the French Revolution that was literally called the Reign of Terror). As a result, France just abolished the death penalty entirely. Perfectly sums up the point of your essay. They had reached the ultimate painless end, and still ditched it because fuck that, it makes the judiciary look barbaric.

@user-rb4wu7bl5t Жыл бұрын

Guillotine was introduced shortly before the Reign of Terror, was used widely during it, and in the aftermath most of the Jacobins were executed with guillotine. Death penalty wasn't abolished after fall of Robespierre, and his reign of terror was followed by a period of terror led by Thermidorian reactionaries. Guillotine was used to carry out death penalties in France well into 20th century (iirc last execution was in 1970s)

@omega2279 Жыл бұрын

@@user-rb4wu7bl5t Yeah, everything you said was correct. I didn't include the precise timeline in my comment, just wanted to convey the general vibe why it got thrown out of of the french judicial system along the death penalty altogether.

@alisaurus4224 Жыл бұрын

@@user-rb4wu7bl5t in 1977, the same year the first Star Wars movie came out

@RideAcrossTheRiver Жыл бұрын

@@omega2279 "the guillotine is demonstrably the most painless and foolproof of execution method" It is not. The brain can be alive and feeling for up to a minute after.

@omega2279 Жыл бұрын

@@RideAcrossTheRiver Most painless doesn't mean flawlessly painless. I'm not advocating for the guillotine's return here. But it sure beats all methods presented in Jacob's essay.

@OldSchoolLPsGames 11 ай бұрын

I'm a bit surprised you spoke on lynching without talking about Strange Fruit. A tremendously moving poem, and an even more powerful song. I honestly can't think of a better way to describe the horror of the practice. Billie Holiday is the gold standard singer for it, and you can feel generations of pain, sadness, and rage in her voice. Though I have noticed an alarming percentage of white people have no idea it exists at all considering its history and influence in the civil rights movement, and that needs to change.

@hystericalgd9497 5 ай бұрын

I dont understand why youtube restricts this kind of stuff. the title clearly describes what the video is gonna be about, its interesting, and educational, and if people are not comfortable with it; they can just not click on it. none the less, amazing video

@Interesting_Failure Жыл бұрын

The problem with "judge, jury, and executioner" with regards to modern police is that it's in the wrong order. The execution comes first, then the judgment, then the court of public opinion. Like everything else about this trend, it primarily serves to make the whole process more convenient, palatable, and ignorable; as a nice bonus, even if the judge or jury decide not to convict, the execution has already been carried out regardless.

@JacobGeller Жыл бұрын

Great framing, I agree

@mrshmuga9 Жыл бұрын

Except you’re ignoring the pertinent issue, timing. If someone threatens violence/murder, how many chances do you give them to back down? If you act too soon, you might’ve killed someone who could’ve been talked down, and at worst someone innocent. If you don’t act soon enough, then you just gave a criminal another opportunity to attack and harm/kill someone else. It’s easy to talk from the sidelines and label it all as “execution” because you’ll never be under that pressure. It’s much different when you’re in that situation and have to make that call. Of which they have to _judge_ first before doing. And the window to do so always varies. You never know how much time you have to work with.

@DustyOrange Жыл бұрын

@@mrshmuga9 From what I could find, violent/murderous crimes account for around 5% of all crimes which is not as often as you're making it sound. Police also have access to less-than-lethal equipment, backup, and SWAT teams if the situation escalates, as well as they should already have training for these types of situations. "Timing" also doesn't seem like a very good excuse, as if the person was already killing, they'd already have murdered the person/people by the time the police get there (to my knowledge, 10 mins is average for critical/emergency) and if they haven't, the police can stall until a proper plan has been made because if the suspect hasn't killed in the 10 mins, there's a chance they can be talked down. And as far as I know, the U.S. Supreme Court has also ruled that police have no specific/constitutional obligation to protect.

@showoe3126 Жыл бұрын

@@DustyOrange one issue with that is the fact that police departments have lost a lot of funding over the past several years, and with many officers quitting, current officers have lower levels of training and often less access to less than lethal options. and while yes most officers have tazers, they are not reliable enough for every case, and are usually only deployed when there is lethal cover to back it up.

@jerkchicken_expertlyseasoned Жыл бұрын

@@mrshmuga9 Framing police killings as split second decisions where an innocent victim's life was immediately at stake and the police have arrived just in the nick of time is exactly how you'd expect a cop to frame the issue. Like a TV crime drama. It's also completely absurd and patently dishonest. There are vanishingly few situations in which you can save someone currently under attack by unloading on the attacker. You're much more likely to hit the "hostage" and other bystanders in addition to the attacker. Which is, of course, often the result of police shootings. Cops have, statistically, very poor aim. Which isn't even touching on the fact that the police are often the ones escalating the situation to violence in the first place. Police kill even when no one was being attacked as they arrived. Your "pertinent" issue of timing is fiction.

@painfullyavarage4316 Жыл бұрын

A book called “Just Mercy” is required reading for my school. It chronicles a black lawyer who tries to exonerate other black people sentenced to death in the south, and both his successes and his failures. It’s a nonfiction story. Yet, throughout our reading and analysis of the entire book, the questions posed by the teacher were always “do those who suffer from mental illness deserve immunity from the death penalty” or “does [insert thing here] mitigate the severity of their crime to the point where a life sentence is more fitting”. The book is very good, but in my opinion it fails to effectively communicate the bigger picture. The subtext is obvious, that the death penalty is abhorrent, but it undermines its own point by showing mostly sympathetic cases. It seems to say “this man doesn’t deserve to die, he has a family and children”. I think it would’ve made its point better by showing the most horrible, violent, inexcusable crimes and still exposing the barbarism of subjecting them to death.

@Casshio Жыл бұрын

That is a really hard thing to do though. Incredibly hard. Jacob solved it by leaving out the actual crimes of those who died under capital punishment. If you would include and describe the crimes that some of these people commited, you'd immediately alienate most of your audience.

@thatguywhowritescommentary7399 Жыл бұрын

Of course, that would be begging the question. Suggesting the death penalty is always morally wrong.

@z-beeblebrox Жыл бұрын

@@Casshio Truly, the easiest way to make people complicit in supporting execution is to go into gruesome details about their crimes. Peoples' brains shut off.

@junebug9841 Жыл бұрын

@Casshio I think this video is really good in how it talks about the inherent flaws with execution methods but (and admittedly i might be projecting something on to the vid that isn't there idk) there's an underlying sense throughout that Jacob believes that the death penalty is always bad. I can't know for sure if that's his opinion as he dosen't state it in the video but i feel its a safe assumption to make based off his tone throughout the video, i feel its implied in a way. I assume for most people watching you either fall onto the side of "the death penalty shouldn't exist" or "it should exist". I feel leaving out what they did makes sense because the video isn't about that but more so the inherent flaws with the systems in place buuuut at the same time the death penalty discussion will kinda always be about that wouldn't it? Whenever we talk about death penalty the ultimate final point is, is it okay to kill certain people? Thats where all roads lead to and i feel like leaving out what they did makes sense but also kinda leaves Jacob open to the criticism of why the death penalty exists in the first place. Its a fundamental flaw with the whole video that i do have trouble getting passed, regardless of how i feel about the death penalty its just feels like a cheap way to not acknowledge one of the main pillars of this ever ongoing debate. Idk if anything i just said made sense and this was kinda rambly but yeah lol i hope i got some kind of point across.

@ProtoTypeFM Жыл бұрын

@@junebug9841 The video pivots to being about Police Brutality, so ultimately for what it is, taking a stance on the morals of the death penalty is unnecessary. Thats not so say it isnt there. The title alone should tell you all you need. The state can try all it wants to make the death penalty be more humane, more clinical, less public, but this attempted evolution is pointless and false, state sanctioned killing accomplishes nothing positive, its an inhumane act by its very essence and its declared goal of taking a life, and it will never reach a point of being executed well enough to be morally sound. It's an impossbility. Apparently this still needs to be said out loud in videos. Hopefully we'll eventually reach a point where having to say "state sanctioned killing is bad" is as unnecessary a statement as "slavery is bad" but it seems we're not there yet.

@devantecrawford-vp1id 7 ай бұрын

Had to come back when I heard how botched that gassing was

@mln2764 Жыл бұрын

I first learned the horrific details of the lethal injection process (and other forms of capital punishment) from the chapter "doctors of the death chamber" in Atul Gawande's book "Better." It includes several interviews from physicians who chose to oversee the lethal injection process despite it being a violation of both the hippocratic oath and their personal morals.

@bigmilk13_ Жыл бұрын

1 person wrongfully put to death by the state is unacceptable. And yet, there are people who think that a 12.5% failure rate isn't evidence of a horribly flawed and barbaric practice? It is truly shameful just how lowly we think of our incarcerated peers.

@DisDatK9 Жыл бұрын

I believe that those people don't necessarily think that the procedure isn't barbaric, or are disregarding the evidence as false; but rather they believe that the cruel and unusual torture of these criminals is the justice system doing its' job. I personally see it as those people believing that the cruelty of the execution is the act of justice, not a willing ignorance of facts.

@KiwiCatherineJemma Жыл бұрын

The United States of America is the ONLY Western World nation that still has and uses "Death Penalty". Most other countries got rid of it, some 50 plus years ago. USA as a nation, is the only savage in the room, on this one.

@protodroidstuff Жыл бұрын

welcome to America, where the libs are conservatives, the conservatives can't read, and the only influential leftists are assassinated.

@thetruederp Жыл бұрын

I believe the death penalty should only be available if there is a zero,precent false absolute certainty that you did it, in effect i think it should be an alternative for life in prison, its far more humane then sentencing someone to at least 30 years, you are taking that persons life, in the slowest most awful way possible. it is more humane to let that man choose to die with dignity, though i doubt many would choose it.

@joshuabacker2363 Жыл бұрын

2%* This also comes with the issue that every execution statistically deters between 3 to 18 homicides. At a minimum that's 150 innocents dead without the death penalty.

@loganpurdy7851 Жыл бұрын

Your video about head transplants and your video about headshots are two that I know I will forever think about. this one absolutely blows my mind. thank you jacob

@VedantFalcon Жыл бұрын

Hey so, I stopped watching his horror style videos after the Returnal one - it absolutely ruined my day with an existential crisis. Is the head transplant one of the same category as this one? I wanna watch it but im wary

@ceve Жыл бұрын

The video about Head Transplants was the video that made me a fan of this channel. So much that before learning his name I just searched for Head Transplants and The Non-existence of the soul to find him

@jasper3706 Жыл бұрын

@@VedantFalcon It contains some gnarly medical information, with no pictures. It reflects on the nature of the soul, and uses examples of body and consciousness transplants from media to explore the subject. It switches back and forth between a somewhat grisly real-world narrative and lighter speculation talking about video games. If the returnal video disturbed you, I'd say it might do the same, but I also don't know what subjects you're sensitive to so that's up to you!

@jamesmayou1361 Жыл бұрын

The one about head shots was pretty mind blowing too

@mikuenjoyerXD Жыл бұрын

@@VedantFalcon im sensitive but it wasn't too traumatic, referring to the brain transplant video. The drawings are a bit disturbing tho

@elgatto3133 11 ай бұрын

"It is better that 100 guilty persons escape than that one innocent should suffer." -Ben Franklin

@SyndicateOperative 8 ай бұрын

I hate to break it to you, but one guilty person causes dozens of innocents to suffer. Now, one hundred guilty people? Your society is fuuuuucked.

@elgatto3133 8 ай бұрын

@@SyndicateOperative well i can think of at least 487 guilty people off the top of my head

@thegoblinwholaughs1137 7 ай бұрын

Why do people parrot garbage like this? That is the one of the dumbest quote i have yet heard

@ThatLaserboltguy 2 ай бұрын

Until it eventually involves you or someone you know, snowflake. @@thegoblinwholaughs1137

@Trainfan1055Janathan Жыл бұрын

I remember arguing with my parents about why I'm against the death penalty. (My main reasons are, "killing is wrong no matter who dies, it's often torturous and sometimes people who didn't do the crime end up on the death penalty.") My parents' argument against the last point was, "Oh, how often does that happen?" Which is like saying, "Sometimes the innocent must be sacrificed for the greater good." No! Even one innocent person dying is too many! I cannot accept this argument.

@ShortArmOfGod Жыл бұрын

Then the money required to house them in prison for life can come out of your paycheck.

@Trainfan1055Janathan Жыл бұрын

@@ShortArmOfGod Oh, the age-old "Money is more important than human life" argument. If you have so many people in jail for life that you can't afford to house them all, maybe you're doing something wrong.

@JacobGeller Жыл бұрын

It costs more to execute someone than keep them in prison for life. This has been confirmed in many different studies.

@ShankarSivarajan Жыл бұрын

Do you accept innocent people incarcerated for decades, or for the rest of their lives? Why is "even one" not too many in that case? Or further, why is "even one innocent person" forced to pay a fine for a crime he did not commit not too many?

@Trainfan1055Janathan Жыл бұрын

@@ShankarSivarajan It is. Innocent people should NEVER go to jail for something they didn't do. Especially considering how horribly criminals are treated in jail. The fact that they do just shows you how horrible our justice system is. They put filling jail cells on a higher priority than making sure those people actually deserve to be there.

@Ivytheherbert Жыл бұрын

The movie Twelve Angry Men really never really says it explicitly, but at it's core the message is that we allow the death penalty simply out of apathy. It's convenient to look the other way, which is why one person on the jury refusing to convict when the other eleven want to eventually sways the decision. His continued insistence means it's ultimately no longer convenient to look away, so they all look again and change their minds.

@tadesubaru1383 Жыл бұрын

It also underlines how the death penalty will always leave a margin of innocents that will be killed because they were wrongly convicted. And in my mind, no civilised society should risk killing innocent people in order to punish the guilty

@Damon_Blue Жыл бұрын

I swear that movie is so good

@nightmarerex2035 Жыл бұрын

they pruposly select lazy and stupid jurrys and as soon as one "jury nullifys" they are out jury duty for life.

@charzssd Жыл бұрын

Maybe the movie is different from the play but from what I remember from the play is that it’s about racism no?

@Vestaaa480 Жыл бұрын

@@charzssd Partially, yes. Because the man is black, it is easier to turn their heads and let him die. Had there not been the man who lacked the same apathy he would be dead by their, and the justice system's hands.

@johngetbent Жыл бұрын

Back in 2004 in high school I had hit quite an academic stride and wrote two of the best papers of my life. One on the concept of capital punishment and the other on the newly passed legislation that allowed people to shop on Sunday in my home province of Nova Scotia (yes 2004) I tend to write from an almost alien outsider looking in debating all sides type of way and I really appreciate what you pull off here, also glad I joined nebula to get the follow up retrospective video.

@wildgeeses 10 ай бұрын

I know you wrote this 2 months and some change ago… but I’m a junior in high school who is fascinated by this. I love writing analytical essays, and I’ve written a few outside of what’s assigned. Most on literature and one on poetry as an art form. Nothing on history or culture. I am so interested in writing about something as immediately relevant as what you’re describing. I wonder if these papers were an assignment of some sort with or without guidance from mentors or if you wrote them for fun independently. Sorry if this is out of the blue I really have to know lol

@johngetbent 10 ай бұрын

@@wildgeeses It is cool that you write stuff for fun on things you are interested in. For me these were assignments, not the topics specifically but I guess I was forced to write essays in school and usually found a way to twist a topic I was somewhat passionate about to fit the assignment. I could not tell you what the actual prompts were. The two I mentioned above were both in social studies courses, that I know for sure. I was 15 in 2004 so it has been a while. This is kinda funny too, that year I managed to get an awesome grade on an English paper about the portrayal of women in the Grand theft auto game series which was only up to San Andreas at the time...People always say write what you know.

@xycrypt 9 ай бұрын

One small inconsequential error. At 7:00 you note that "Odysseus declares that the women of the house, who were insolent to him and his mother, don’t deserve a clean death either." It is in fact Odysseus' son, Telemachus who said this and whose mother (Penelope, Odysseus' wife) they were insolent to. It's more of a funny mistake than an error, but great video overall!

@bugattichicken Жыл бұрын

Wow, dying from lethal injection sounds like one of the most horrifying experiences one could possibly experience. Great video, by the way. I think it's your best yet.

@commisaryarreck3974 Жыл бұрын

Just don't rape kids or murder people in a brutal fashion You'll be spared the experience

@kosaciecsyberyjski Жыл бұрын

@@commisaryarreck3974 how about the innocent people that are wrongly accused?

@NotSoSerious69420 Жыл бұрын

@@kosaciecsyberyjski small price to pay. The saying of “I’d free 100 guilty people to save 1 innocent person” is the most moronic argument there could be. You’d give 100 people another chance to victimize innocent people AGAIN?

@bugattichicken Жыл бұрын

@@NotSoSerious69420 Or maybe just... don't kill them?

@NotSoSerious69420 Жыл бұрын

@@bugattichicken why? Because it’s immoral? If we could make the process cheaper then it’d be cheaper than housing someone for possibly the better part of a century. Or do you prefer to torture them by having them be confined in a small space for 23 hours a day, every day, for DECADES.

@livewire98801 Жыл бұрын

The fact that no state (to my knowledge) uses things like morphine overdose or asphyxiation by carbon monoxide, nitrogen, or even helium... all well known quick and painless or even euphoric ways to go even by accident tells you all you need to know about the political view of capital punishment. if you have natural gas service, you're all but required to have a carbon monoxide detector because of how lethal it is without even realizing that there's a problem.

@caligula1558 Жыл бұрын

I concur. Same thought. Carbon Monoxide or Fentynol OD. Quick and painless. Why are they not considered or implemented?

@domvasta Жыл бұрын

@@caligula1558 Carbon Monoxide is too difficult to handle for an execution, the same reason they stopped doing hydrogen cyanide executions, gas chambers were expensive and were unsafe for the staff carrying out the execution, inert gases are safer and you can use high volume extraction and ventilation systems to quickly reintroduce oxygen to the room, this should be implemented, but change in criminal justice is difficult. Fentanyl is tricky, take George Floyd as an example, the amount of fentanyl he had in his system would kill the average person, but according to all the doctors was nowhere near a lethal dose as he was an opioid addict and had built up a tolerance. I know of people who were taking 20 milligrams of fentanyl per day, that's enough to kill about 50 opioid naïve people. If you knew that was the method of execution, you could just have opioids smuggled to you in prison, build up a tolerance, then when it comes time for your execution, it doesn't work, there is also the outcry that criminals don't deserve a euphoric death, especially when people like Terry Schiavo had to literally starve to death, after having their feeding tube removed because euthanasia is illegal.

@ataraxia7439 Жыл бұрын

I'm trying to imagine a society that truly didn't have the means to take care of everyone sufficiently and truly had people that were so dangerous or destructive that having them killed would lead to less harm than any other means available. Yeah in that case why not try to make the death something pleasurable or quick give them proper end of life care etc

@Mqxwell Жыл бұрын

@@domvasta Imagine complaining that it was "too difficult" to kill somebody in a painless way. What a sad excuse and justification.

@corneliusmcmuffin3256 Жыл бұрын

@@Mqxwell you don’t want more people dying as a result of unsafe working environments

@numbertj4730 9 ай бұрын

It's not often that watch a video essay this long and feel as though its length was perfectly justified. If you ever see this, thank you for creating it.

@rileyrichardson6262 4 ай бұрын

I don't feel like looking up the exact line, but I remember there's a part in Camus' 'The Stranger' where he muses that the true cruelty of the Guillotine is in how it compels the condemned to hope for his own swift execution, because it would be worse if the execution failed. He is forced to become complicit in - and hopeful of - his own death.

@RockLobster283 Жыл бұрын

Literally one of the only video essayists I've ever seen that actually has a thesis and a point to their subject matter. Well done, Jacob, you keep em it up and we'll all be coming back for more.

@zenisbest8090 Жыл бұрын

I get what you're saying, but you need to find better essayists my dude

@plugshirt1762 Жыл бұрын

@@zenisbest8090 damn bruh you can't just say that and then not name some lol

@skinnybuggo Жыл бұрын

@@zenisbest8090name some

@RockLobster283 Жыл бұрын

@@zenisbest8090 I watch plenty but a lot of them (I won't name names because it isn't fair to single anyone out) just sort of meander around a pop culture topic and don't really have a point beyond "this is good, please watch it". Jacob has videos like that too but then he has videos like this masterpiece or the essay on the Jewish Golem that are just very good at having a point beyond just "this is good". This, however, is only the opinion of an untalented hack who doesn't make videos at all so take this comment with a grain of salt.

@vsnake8663 3 ай бұрын

@@plugshirt1762 A year late, I know, but if you want a recommendation from me, it'd be Professor Bopper. Most of his stuff is on pop culture, but he's an actual high school teacher and he knows how to present information and write theses, and a lot of his videos include literary references as comparisons to help illustrate the point he's making. For example, in his NES Final Fantasy retrospective, he compares the Heroes of Light to ancient Greek heroes, whose character is defined by their deeds and how they interact with the world, and he contrasts this to later final fantasy characters, who are more like Shakespeare and the Romantics, defined by their inner monologue. His stuff engages me because they were clearly written by an actual educator, as opposed to just a fan.

@VS-kf5qw Жыл бұрын

I appreciate the way your video keeps its eyes on the central theme, so to speak: the idea that throughout all of this history and the treadmill of patting ourselves on the back about human progress, it's the state as an institution that gets to overwhelmingly decide what kind of violence can, and can't, be shown to the general public. As a lot of the western world has reached this stage of "we're better than That" the government and the prisons have figured out that performativity is the only thing that really matters. As long as you don't let the public see behind the curtain - except as a little treat for some "indisputably" evil case - then the public is content to let you do whatever you want. Happily convinced that as the most civilized country on this flat, hollow, earth there's just no way their countrymen would do horrible things unless somebody "really" deserved it.

@shytendeakatamanoir9740 Жыл бұрын

Yes. I come from an abolitionist country, and it would be way too easy to consider us morally superior, and wilfully ignore the way we treat prisoners is regularly pointed out as violating human rights

@fatal_pastry1176 Жыл бұрын

All that matters to the vast majority of people is being just comfortable enough that they can believe things could be worse, rather than think about how they could be better.

@thatguykalem Жыл бұрын

@@shytendeakatamanoir9740 that was my reaction too until I remembered that I live in Australia, a country that’s been found out systematically torturing and abusing young children in youth detention up to the present day.

@mimszanadunstedt441 Жыл бұрын

christian moment

@vvlaze 5 ай бұрын

Great video, really topical given the new gas method created. Sorry you have to deal with trolls and racists with the newer comments, but I guess that’s par for the course as a larger creator.

@Rokomarn 5 ай бұрын

Dude was completely disingenuous at the end there

@FengBaoYolotli 14 күн бұрын

@@Rokomarnracist drone

@Rokomarn 14 күн бұрын

@@FengBaoYolotli wow so original wow oh boy oh wow got me there.

@leoerus Жыл бұрын

The last segment of this video nearly brought me to tears, as a black individual. Many of what was shown before is spoken of as experience within the black community. I applaude your thoroughness, but man this really is painful to listen too.

@otakuinred Жыл бұрын

Working in the medical field (drawing blood, no less) this doesn't surprise me that so many medical associations have completely denounced lethal injection. I have a hard enough time getting a teaspoon's worth of blood for tests, I can't even imagine the ungodly horror of being stuck over and over when you're about to die, only to suffer even more because whoever's holding the needle couldn't hit a vein.

@housemana Жыл бұрын

you severely are missing the point on >why< those in the field, who have taken the Hippocratic oath, oppose lethal injection. It has NOTHING to do with the mechanical difficulties and skills that would be required to perform on a satisfactory theoretical basis. It has nothing to do with that; and your 'experience' in the 'medical field' is likely hindering your actual perspective as you seem to be getting hung up on the botched cases themselves. It is more fundamental why they unanimously denounce the approach. It is because the theatrics and very aesthetic of the lethal injection procedure so closely, deliberately, attempt to fall into the same space as that which gives Life and Healing. Please think more on this.Your job - while important and immediately impactful to those you serve - isn't rocket science in terms of complexity and skillset and is easily taught, relatively speaking, to most other operators in the Healthcare space. So it definitely isn't being denounced by us who have taken the Hippocratic Oath on that basis at all.

@otakuinred Жыл бұрын

@@housemana Oh, I'm aware exactly why they denounced it. I'm also not claiming to be the topmost expert in phlebotomy, or that I'm somehow better than others just because I've been trained to find a vein. The point was to draw attention to the fact that when not properly trained, venipuncture can be painful at best, and as seen, disastrous at worst. Although I have to admit, I doubt I'd want to administer lethal injections even with my training. It would turn my stomach.

@housemana Жыл бұрын

@@otakuinred Again... you are completely missing the point in why your OP comment is so out of touch. You keep going back to the mechanical/technical aspects of the practice. The DENOUNCEMENT has NOTHING to do with that. And you double down, saying you are exactly aware but then continue to go on about the technical aspects that, no offense, are self evident and even someone with zero medical training could have arrived to the conclusion making your post even that much weirder. really, you're clueless.

@yasdiaz2118 Жыл бұрын

@@housemana do you understand the chemistry that makes lethal injection so cruel? if you did, you would understand why find a vein is so important.

@housemana Жыл бұрын

@@yasdiaz2118 lol

@qiaaa. Жыл бұрын

I'm surprised Jacob didn't talk about the youngest person to be killed via an electric chair. His name was George Stinnely Jr. and he was 14 when he was unfairly tried and executed for the murder of two girls in 1944.

@alisaurus4224 Жыл бұрын

Yes, i was expecting that too

@RideAcrossTheRiver Жыл бұрын

I've seen death penalty advocates say such mistakes are acceptable--even saying "oh well, nobody is innocent."

@pancakedroid Жыл бұрын

I had a feeling it's because he was black, then I typed his name into google. Poor kid :(

@filipinordabest Жыл бұрын

@@RideAcrossTheRiver Well... I'll break KZfaq TOS if I say the most appropriate response to that.

@Zero.X Жыл бұрын

@pancakedroid9992 Yes it was a racially motivated sentence, happened to often, even whit native American from the Indian tribes, "your not white, your guilty and sentenced to death"....

@jonathonclary1681 6 ай бұрын

Another scary fact is the number of defendants on death row who we know are innocent. There is literally evidence proving their innocence. However, the legal system will not review the evidence because simply being able to prove their innocence is not considered adequate grounds for appeal. In fact, even if they can appeal they wouldn't be able to introduce the new evidence during their appeal or a new trial if they get one. They would be restricted to the evidence introduced in the initial trial.

@pikachucetthesecond4296 Жыл бұрын

I remember hearing about how in China the method of execution is by gunshot. I remember when I heard it I went "That's fucked up" And yeah, it is horrifying. But thinking about it more it's a far quicker and less painful than executions in America (although I should clarify it's still not GOOD)

@OldSchoolLPsGames 11 ай бұрын

I read somewhere that firing squads were often used in the past as a way to mitigate the guilt felt by the executioners. In some versions of the execution protocol, only a few of them actually had live rounds. If there are a bunch of you all firing, you can't truly know who actually killed the person, giving you plausible deniability. It's very Caeser / et tu Brute?

@AlfredEiji 11 ай бұрын

@@OldSchoolLPsGamesThe same idea was implemented with lethal injection. Multiple people get a switch, and none of them know if it’s their switch that actually killed someone.

@Skrenja 6 ай бұрын

@@OldSchoolLPsGamesThat doesn't add up. Blanks have next to no recoil when compared to live rounds. The people shooting could easily tell the difference.

@tee-py3zx Жыл бұрын

When I was a senior in high school, I had to pick a political topic that I had no opinion about, research it, and determine the constitutionality of it. I picked capital punishment, and I was truly appalled by just HOW immoral it was: how often it was botched, the racial bias, how many people were actually innocent, and how much of the evidence points to it being unconstitutional. Ever since, I have been continuously shocked to see how little most people care about it, and how many people still support it.

@leftiealex3632 Жыл бұрын

as a current senior in high school with the access to technology we have these days, it's really hard to think of a political topic I don't already have an opinion on. the pure amount of exposure I've had to opinions has bled topics into my brain left and right. it also feels like it's wrong or societally unacceptable to be able to say I don't know or I'd like to do some research before forming my opinion on that topic, you're expected to jump straight in with your opinion based on whatever slight knowledge you already have, even if it's wrong.

@bunnyman1474 Жыл бұрын

Death penalty is not humane. However, The racial part seems very forced, and hurt his credibility. Everyone on death row has been convicted of committing unspeakable acts. No evidence of racism, just a reflection of the crime disparities.

@laerramarie2620 Жыл бұрын

@@bunnyman1474So I don't live in the US, but isn't there a structural Problem with racism?

@TryinaD Жыл бұрын

@@bunnyman1474 a society like the US that loves to create problems based on race would most definitely make life harder for some people, and cause them to live in poverty and do criminal things to survive

@ivyivyyiivvvyyyyvy Жыл бұрын

@@laerramarie2620 Definitely is lol. This guy is talking out of his ass because he wants to ignore systemic issues.

@galliumgames3962 Жыл бұрын

Lethal injection also has a unique level of psychological torture most other methods didn’t have, 25% of people have moderate to extreme fears of needles. I’m only slightly afraid of needles, but the idea of being poked and prodded in the search of a vain for hours terrifies me in a way the other US methods of execution don’t.

@kai_fatallysapphic Жыл бұрын

ikr the mention of the word "vein" makes my joints weak, even when talking about ores in Minecraft. recently I asked my doctor to explain to me getting a shot, and she explained it in the least scary way possible but I fainted just from listening to her. not exaggerating, I really didn't think my phobia had gotten that bad 😞 I've gotten shots before

@SaraMKay Жыл бұрын

I read the fear of needles is actually one of the very few phobias ppl really die from suffering because of the most extreme stress to the system - absolutely no joke

@kai_fatallysapphic Жыл бұрын

@@SaraMKay omg... thanks for sharing, I looked into it and I believe I'm currently suffering from the kind you're talking about, I had no idea it was so dangerous no wonder the doctor hooked me up to measure my heart electricity or whatever when I woke up

@SaraMKay Жыл бұрын

@@kai_fatallysapphic omg, I'm so sorry this happened to you, I just touched the surface of this subject but it totally frightened me and it must be more common than thought, ppl refusing medical help out of this fear and really having physical reactions only by thinking of procedures that involve this matter - but because it is so common and dangerous there sure is help Idk like psychological training and things like that. Please look for help and stay safe and don't let the condition worsen, I wish you all the best and that you overcome it and be fine 🙏

@SaraMKay Жыл бұрын

worst thing someday something small may save your life and you just can't get yourself to let medicine help you, you know I'm a diabetes consultant and must be always aware ppl refusing treatment out of fear but maybe they say otherwise, but regardless sooner or later they will die from the condition and this is so tragic

@clownshow_5727 6 ай бұрын

Just a random thing I’d like to throw in, whenever Jacob said a person who died due to a horrified or botched execution and I looked them up, they were black. All of them, I looked up like 5 separate people and not one of them was white. Unintentionally showing the racial bias to me before I even heard him say it.

@RandooGaming Күн бұрын

its pretty obvious hes supporting blm and such (which is not bad, the documentary was still great to0)

@unyu-cyberstorm64 6 ай бұрын

Speaking of hangings, apparently in Japan, where hangings were a thing till recently, when someone is killed by hanging, once they are dead, they are dropped through a hole in the floor where I assume they fall for some distance before their body is disposed of.

@unyu-cyberstorm64 6 ай бұрын

Japan also uses "long drop" hanging.

@howardkurtus7069 Жыл бұрын

You genuinely changed my mind, I have been in favor of the death penalty for pretty much my entire life. In recent years seeing cops and the government act in such immoral ways probably helped this change, but your video is essentially the brick that bashed the camels face in.

@emmahird2795 Жыл бұрын

Normally I praise your freedom of thought, but it's been completely overshadowed by "The brick that bashed the camel's face in"

@frankiesayspanic Жыл бұрын

…is that an expression? lol

@KoeSeer Жыл бұрын

i still say, just go with bullet. 5.56 ot 7.62 to the heart is quick, cheap, and less inhumane than electric or chemical. it's also keep vagueness of who is the real executioner since the shooting squad doesn't even know whose rifle is loaded with live round, whose just blank.

@Commentium Жыл бұрын

please attempt to explain how the death penalty is overall a bad thing.

@Klick404 Жыл бұрын

@Commentium oooohhh I can tell this thread is gonna be good!

@thebastard890 Жыл бұрын

Got to the part about the paralytic not stopping people from feeling pain and that's where i had to tap out. being trapped in my own body is like the hellish evolution of being buried alive and it absolutely horrifies me. especially with the addition of pain that you cannot stop.

@juanquireyes6703 Жыл бұрын

Wait till you hear that 1 of 8 death row inmates are innocent.

@quantumhawk806 Жыл бұрын

That is living with any chronic disease. Being buried alive is scary, but being trapped in your own body happens quite frequently. Happens to many with mental illness or physical ones. You will be trapped in your body with it. There is no escape to the suffering it creates piloting said body. It doesnt even have to be paralysed in it. You just cant escape your body.

@Menuki Жыл бұрын

They started using fentanyl. Not much pain and really good at killing

@garymartinez8494 Жыл бұрын

You tapped out before the best part tho ....

@crisscrossam Жыл бұрын

It's so depressing that it's taken decades and centuries of "trying to find the most humane way to kill someone" until modern days when people actually realized that there is nothing humane about forcefully taking someone else's life, no matter how fast or painless it is.

@tallhotsexy Жыл бұрын

It’s so hypocritical. How can you demand that someone deserves death for killing someone and then do the exact same thing?

@Hell_O7 11 ай бұрын

I don't think being humane is always an objective, some seem intentionally brutal.

@whiteeye9584 9 ай бұрын

it is by making it painless

@dayoldbaguettes 6 ай бұрын

There's another comment suggesting this method, but I came back to this video because it was used recently and most certainly not ethically, quickly, or painlessly- nitrogen. Among other issues, the "painlessness" in part requires the person to breathe in the gas quickly, as one would do if choosing to do so.

@someguyik 5 ай бұрын

I think I know the case you're referring to. I think part of the issue was that the executioners intentionally/unintentionally did not create a perfect seal, allowing oxygen to reach the brain, therefore prolonging the process. I'm guessing they knew how effective the method was so they fucked up on purpose to inflict more suffering.

@xxlepusxx Жыл бұрын

I have sat on this for a while. As a veterinary student, part of my curriculum is the knocking out and execution methods used for different species in the slaughterhouse. The knocking out is either a captive bolt gun (used on pigs and cows and horses, maybe on sheeps and goats), electrical stunning with some scissor like thingie (for goats, sheeps, and other small-ish animals including young), or CO2 which I haven't seen but I know it's used somewhere. In birds electrified water after hanging them by their feet is also used. Then they are hanged upside down, and their throat is cut, exsanguinating them in a matter of seconds (hanging them is for cleanliness, not for anything else). Despite having been only one day on the slaughterhouse, and not for too long, I watched a cow not being properly stunned and begin moving while hooked while the man with the gun tried to knock her out again. The topic of execution methods, is something I have thought about for a long time, especially because I struggled with suicidal ideation in my teen years (better now). There is no humane way of killing. (I'd argue that execution is in itself inmoral and inhumane), but even the best and most controlled way will always have failures, and that's without taking into account cost saving measures. You could inject 10g of pentobarbital, a lethal dose, in a vein that were properly tested, you may still fail somehow. Even if you were to throw an explosive at someone to kill them, it may fail somehow. So yeah, even the most successful, quick and painless way will fail sometimes. So either we don't execute, or we accept that it will suck often enough.

@denisl2760 Жыл бұрын

Explosives are well engineered nowadays. You could have 2 or 3 at the same time for redundancy. If I had to be executed I'd much rather take a c4 charge rather than any of these other methods.

@commisaryarreck3974 Жыл бұрын

@@denisl2760 I prefer the good old firing squad

@denisl2760 Жыл бұрын

@@commisaryarreck3974 Always a chance the bullets miss vital organs, then you lay there bleeding out for a few minutes. With a large enough powerful explosive you're alive one moment then you're vaporized in an instant, you wouldn't even register any pain or any thoughts as you're dying.

@hoominbeeing Жыл бұрын

How about not eating animals?

@xxlepusxx Жыл бұрын

@@hoominbeeing I'm vegan.

@Sneaker3719 Жыл бұрын

The bait-and-switch you pulled at the end where you smashed my optimism that executions are going down with the horror that police killings are going up was masterful. It really drove home how state-sponsored death has only grown more, not less, barbaric over time.

@manolgeorgiev9664 Жыл бұрын

Bring back the Guillotine!

@shytendeakatamanoir9740 Жыл бұрын

@@manolgeorgiev9664 Well, at least guillotine was also used on the people who were in power, be it your political opponent, or even the head of the state, in some rare case.

@kentknightofcaelin4537 Жыл бұрын

@@shytendeakatamanoir9740 and that's a good thing?

@superubergoober Жыл бұрын

@@kentknightofcaelin4537 yes

@shytendeakatamanoir9740 Жыл бұрын

@@kentknightofcaelin4537 On one hand, killing is bad. but on the other equal opportunity for all is good. So I'd say the answer to that question isn't a clear cut.

@espighty Жыл бұрын

I came here because I was drawn in by my own autistic interest in execution and torture methods. In no way did I expect such a profound analysis of society and the justice system. I was equally blindsided by the transition into talking about racial bias and cop violence. The topics flowed together so smoothly and naturally, and rightfully so, as they are interconnected. But this interconnection has never been so… easily presented to me before. Even though this wasn’t the gruesome video I came for, you held my attention with genuinely interesting analysis and insight. I never thought about the connection between capital punishment and being shot to death by police, even though it seems like such a simple conclusion now. If we were looking for a quick method of death, we would have stopped at the era of firing squads. It really is all about public image, presenting a squeaky clean outer shell to hide the rot and muck within. Deep down, America does not care about its prisoners at all. If you step out of line once, you are nothing to them. That’s why they take away prisoners’ right to vote as well. The only ones who can truly understand how horrible this justice system is are the ones who have been put through it. If we let them vote, things would change. Can’t have that happen. Anyways AWESOME video dude! I’m gonna watch some of your other stuff now! 👍

@dragofire202 Жыл бұрын

its sad :(

@BionicleFreek99 7 ай бұрын

I know very well from having my blood drawn regularly (for donation) that even MEDICAL PROFESSIONALS can have trouble finding a vein correctly and get the needle in incorrectly, I can only imagine how terrible it is with someone who's not even trained to do so.