ALL 15 MiG-21s COMPARED: MiG-21F-13 to J-7E

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Күн бұрын

MiG-21SMT vs 9.3 jets is a completely fair and enjoyable experience for all parties involved
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Music: Fort Grays Air Base Hangar (Ace Combat 7)
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Localization (custom aircraft names):
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0:00 - Monke
1:03 - MiG-21F-13
2:43 - MiG-21PFM [Event]
4:38 - MiG-21SPS-K [Premium]
6:14 - MiG-21S R-13-300 [Premium]
8:00 - MiG-21MF
8:58 - MiG-21SMT
10:05 - MiG-21bis
12:36 - J-7II
13:28 - J-7D [Garbage]
14:58 - J-7E

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@perennialE Ай бұрын

Being a fan of Jaek is like being a fan of delta wing before triangles was invented

@retr0_fps Ай бұрын

words of wisdom

@cokoctepannx5864 Ай бұрын

What

@snakevenom8136 Ай бұрын

What does this even mean

@joakimjensen309 Ай бұрын

@@snakevenom8136 A Delta wing with a Delta wing on top of a Delta wing

@helpmedaddyjesus7099 Ай бұрын

@@snakevenom8136 just google it or something idk.

@freezedvegetal Ай бұрын

Can't wait for Gaijin to completely overhaul the J-7E's flight model next week to make this video irrelevant 🥰

@V0TION Ай бұрын

wait what

@itsericzhou Ай бұрын

am i just super out of the loop? what

@ViperFox_ Ай бұрын

@@V0TIONthere is an upcoming nerf of both the mig23 and mig21

@Dunnay48 Ай бұрын

FFS I just started researching it

@AstroGamer_da_real Ай бұрын

Says the guy who ONLY PLAYS THE J-7E

@DonutWithMustache Ай бұрын

Lebron reportedly spotted trying to two-circle an F-5E in the MiG-21Bis. How will the open bug report about nerfing MiG-21 turnrate affect Lebron's legacy?

@malithaw Ай бұрын

Unreal

@kingghidorah8106 Ай бұрын

probably moving f-5e up to 11.0 again turning it into the n1k2j of supersonic jets except for the lackluster armament part.

@Nightmare_52 Ай бұрын

the one boost to the PFM is it has a red camo, so its very cool

@XpunisherX8152 Ай бұрын

The red camo gives it +25 Bias

@jcool017 Ай бұрын

I'm just quietly hoping they give us the J7E's later varient with HMD, python 3s, and a upgraded engine. A J8F that's even more competitive in a dogfight? Yes please

@FatherExo Ай бұрын

You know whats cooler than soviet delta wings? The Amana White/Black Portable Air Conditioner with Remote Control (available at Sam’s Club!)

@pandoranbias1622 Ай бұрын

The F-13 was crazy when the A-10 dropped, it was like running circles around the fat kid in the playground.

@zanaduz2018 Ай бұрын

I'm slightly surprised that this didn't cover the J-8s, which are also derived from its predecessor (the J-7), and thus are at least partially related to the MiG-21 series.

@jaek_898 Ай бұрын

Thought about including them but the video was getting pretty long. They really do feel like MiG-21s to fly for sure

@-..----.--.-... Ай бұрын

J-8 is essentially Su-15

@rodolfohernandez3303 Ай бұрын

Yes, New Video from Jaek. by the way....Great Intro with the Monkee, that was hilarious

@Narsheo Ай бұрын

Monthly jaek banger dropped

@badasstasticusbadass4908 Ай бұрын

The Mig-21 variant that i would love to see in the game is the LanceR configuration which are super modified Mig-21s that the Rumanian airforce used for a while before been replaced by the F-16.

@ogwancannoli Ай бұрын

Jaek, keep making videos so that it causes the Gaijin gods to change more things and immediately make the video obsolete.

@henri2058 Ай бұрын

Great video, as always.

@Captain_Coleslaw Ай бұрын

Yet another banger video!!! Keep at it my man! Lets got some more weapon system comparisons and deep dives :) Gun performance and stuff would be sick too!

@GeneralLee2000 Ай бұрын

I'm actually kinda excited for the Bison and I don't know

@perennialE Ай бұрын

He forgot to finish the comment. It might be time to put Lee in the retirement home.

@emonster317 Ай бұрын

Lee doesn’t know

@emilelerate6454 Ай бұрын

why doesn't he know

@mey.tomhero4876 Ай бұрын

he forgor

@user-bl1lh1xv1s Ай бұрын

💀

@Deviss2 Ай бұрын

Good video man, thanks for the informational.

@explosivecommando9100 Ай бұрын

Thanks a lot for this tutorial. Been thinking about grinding the german one

@huyhoangdo3096 Ай бұрын

Fun fact: When the USSR provided MiG 21s to North Vietnam during the Vietnam War, the Chinese took out the electronic systems of such MiG 21s (since they had to be transferred through China) for reserve engineering, and replaced such systems with the domestically produced systems of the Chinese. Soviet air advisors in Vietnam were very shocked to discover this. I really hope that in the future some people would make VPAF's market available skins for MiG 21 PF, MF, and PFM. I would buy them so hard. We're the most famous and enthusiastic MiG 21 users in the world and still have only one skin for that MiG 21 F-13

@nick4754 Ай бұрын

Jaek is the goat of warthunder KZfaqrs, he comes drops a great video and leaves

@andreapiucco1940 Ай бұрын

nice video !

@Evrimomono Ай бұрын

these comparison videos are addicting more!

@Tuhrue Ай бұрын

2:37 love to see it. The mig 21s are like my favourite counter to the F5 spam, especially the bis in a downtier

@mey.tomhero4876 Ай бұрын

the Bis is the goat. It is great

@kantina4765 Ай бұрын

They’re my favourite planes to fight in the f5 cos they’re super dangerous initially

@Viviana088 Ай бұрын

Try the smt its really strong and pretty competitive in a up tier.

@yifanzhao4572 Ай бұрын

Late models of both have some crazy modifications. MiG-21UPG can fire R-77, R-73, and other precision guided air to ground munitions, while J-7 in the early 2000s evolves into JL-9.

@Shatheedjameson. Ай бұрын

I heard that ace combat music

@jts0221 Ай бұрын

Ace combat hanger vibe? Subscribed.

@exhausting_thoughts Ай бұрын

Jaek, your content is War Thunder's patrimony. Like and excellent video as always.

@dbull1 Ай бұрын

hell yeah jaekypoo uploaded 💦💦

@CorporalAdrianShephard. Ай бұрын

Sorry was jamming to Fort Grays Air Base Hangar theme. What did you say?

@LTSarcasm Ай бұрын

I feel it's a bit worth noting on the 7E's flight model - what might be noticed by the utter lack of fuel bulge and the NR30 is that it's a 1st gen airframe. It's actually notably lighter than the Bis, which is part of why the difference in engine power isn't such a issue. That said, G2 (or as a premium F-7BGI) and then Jeff darnit.

@master_dirt1435 Ай бұрын

So, I have the J7d and I'll add a little fuel to your fire. The radar does not have IFF. I haven't looked into this personally, but I'm pretty sure a friend mentioned this is an upgrade from the 1990s. Imagine that in a relatively modern fighter... Not a big deal for most players since it doesn't have radar missiles anyway, but as a sim player it hurts. The plane is fun and makes a great vulture but it is awful in rb as you're in almost a perpetual uptier. I find its sim performance to be fantastic as long as you can ID planes well, and the pl7 being radar slavable is fantastic there. the hud is very nice to have for just about all situations.

@friesingcold Ай бұрын

Babe new Jaek vid just dropped

@AstroGamer_da_real Ай бұрын

YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES FINALY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

@raihanrusli2720 Ай бұрын

I barely play the game anymore (I play the game to remind me that I shouldnt play it lol), but still excited to see this and donut's rundown. Yours for serious analysis, donut for meme

@ssd3337 Ай бұрын

J7G and J7M have some modernized replacement like AA AG weapons, PD radar and HMD, can't wait to fly them in WT

@user-ki4ms5jg7r Ай бұрын

The pronunciation "lazoor' " is correct if you'd like to know it. Nice review, thx for the vid! o7

@R3llyman Ай бұрын

now this is awkward after seeing mig 21 and comrade

@Luke27WT Ай бұрын

fun fact: along with different flares on mig-21bis, there are different nose antennas)

@XpunisherX8152 Ай бұрын

BTW : the PFM KH-66 can be guided if its locked onto an enemy aircraft but still needs a direct hit as it doesnt have proxy fuse

@jaek_898 Ай бұрын

Interesting, haven't tried that but the Fireflash guidance works the same way so it wouldn't surprise me

@landehn1212 Ай бұрын

AC7 menu music goes hard

@MiG21fanboy Ай бұрын

Me, a massive fan of the j7d, i think its overtiered yet its such an amazing plane!!!

@D0gEAtD0g Ай бұрын

Just a missile carrier, nothing more

@MiG21fanboy Ай бұрын

@@D0gEAtD0g the f4's are missle carriers, the J7D aint. But alright, keep thinking that

@reinni2968 Ай бұрын

4 rear aspect missiles and pretty mediocre airframe and engine at 11.0...isnt the J7E just better? A5C looks like a way better grinder for china

@MiG21fanboy Ай бұрын

@@reinni2968 i have both, amd the j7d is alot better Sure the airframe doesnt look good, but it actual is. Esepcialy if you play sim

@sparkling925 Ай бұрын

@@MiG21fanboyI think you're just coping with the fact that you paid 70 bucks for an overtired mig21 and I can't blame you

@icy3-1 Ай бұрын

It is here :3

@freanz3000 Ай бұрын

2:20 ''most expperienced f-5 player'' got me🤣🤣🤣🤣

@toastoftriumph Ай бұрын

Great video! For lower tier jets lacking flares, do you think it's worth bringing rockets as makeshift flares/decoys?

@jaek_898 Ай бұрын

It's better than nothing

@arandomfawn5289 Ай бұрын

Can we get a video on the A4 and the variants in game? Or how to use the damn things

@Hyper_1989 Ай бұрын

The agms on the su-17m2 also guide by the nose, or at least they did when i used them yesterday.

@jaek_898 Ай бұрын

IIRC those are laser guided and the laser is just a pod that's fixed forward, so they will set off LWS systems

@Hyper_1989 Ай бұрын

@jaek_898 that makes sense, thanks.

@nathanlloyd8704 Ай бұрын

The mig 21 bison is the best one now having the best missiles but only 200 in the cannons

@Lykas_mitts Ай бұрын

I remember when the F-13 was not foldered, fun times. Still haven't spaded it.

@DzinkyDzink Ай бұрын

Nah... You can't possibly hate the J7D more than the guys who made it in the game.

@jaek_898 Ай бұрын

Gaijin's laughing all the way to the bank on that one...

@Frogg-YT Ай бұрын

Jaek mig21 vid about a week after donut mig21 vid 😮

@mega_bruh Ай бұрын

Will the next video be about all F-5s? Maybe even tornadoes or harriers

@jaek_898 Ай бұрын

Probably Mirages but I'm not sure yet, I want to remake the sparrow video and finish my jet guide as well as cover the june update, so I might not get around to doing another one of these plane family videos for a while

@ViperFox_ Ай бұрын

MiG 21 SMT is an absolutely goated plane. So fun to fly

@kazline1455 Ай бұрын

Personally i find the J-7D to je quite fun for air sim as its 10.7 there (meaning it gets a down tier bracket 2/8 days in the rotation) and it gets a useful HUD in the cockpit It should however have more modern avionics like a better RWR and better radar, one bug thing that makes this radar more useless then the saphire radar is the lack of IFF which really makes identifying aircraft a probably Especially how I fly the fishbed in sim, i basically i fly low with radar off, look for targets visually, ID with radar and engage if enemy

@AstroGamer_da_real Ай бұрын

Can you do an All ATGMs compared?

@sneakysnek8416 Ай бұрын

I wish i could still see your Sparrow video

@jaek_898 Ай бұрын

Working on its replacement, I need to update it for 2024 and I think I can make it better than I did the first time 👍

@sneakysnek8416 Ай бұрын

@@jaek_898 can you make a video about the TAF jet man? I love TAF

@SkinkUA Ай бұрын

So true

@BrockvsTV Ай бұрын

Thank you for all the cool in-depth videos. I don’t play the game much anymore but they are still well done and entertaining

@MrJibJub13 Ай бұрын

Please do one on spitfires. there is so many

@MorningGI0ry Ай бұрын

MiG-21 SMT my beloved 🥰

@countryballswo 15 күн бұрын

bison is here

@thatoneguy1741 Ай бұрын

Damn howd you find footage of me in the intro 🗿

@jeskler Ай бұрын

Completely and utterly related to most of the video, but a small thing that bugs me is the Soviet flag, it's the 1936 version used during World War 2 which was replaced eventually in 1955 with a slightly different hammer and sickle design, about 4 years before the Mig-21 was introduced. Again, insignificant nitpick, it's just something that always gets me when I see it.

@jaek_898 Ай бұрын

I pulled the flags from the game files, I dont remember seeing a second version but I'll double check for next time

@mayto420 Ай бұрын

4:05 i think you mean nose guided, since the Vikhrs on the Su-25T and Su-39 are beam-riding

@jaek_898 Ай бұрын

Well, beam riding and nose guided I guess. The Su-17M2 has nose guided laser guided ATGMs.

@emilelerate6454 Ай бұрын

JAek vid drop lfg man

@jacoproita9010 Ай бұрын

I would also love to see the romanian MiG-21 LanceR for Italy

@jaek_898 Ай бұрын

Maybe the IAI MiG-21-2000 for Israel too since I think the two are related

@jacoproita9010 Ай бұрын

@@jaek_898 never heard of the MiG-21-2000 but they probably are related since the LanceR upgrade was done by an israeli company

@spacedude2762 Ай бұрын

What happened to the old "all aim 7 models compared" video? I can't see it anymore

@jaek_898 Ай бұрын

Unlisted and working on its replacement

@spacedude2762 Ай бұрын

Ok! Good vid as always btw

@KaguyasBeat Ай бұрын

Was the PL-7 affected by the Magic buffs to?

@MiG21fanboy Ай бұрын

Yea

@Proskilljg Ай бұрын

didn;t donutwithmoustage make a mig 21 family video too recently?

@jaek_898 Ай бұрын

Yes but the two videos are quite different

@Proskilljg Ай бұрын

@@jaek_898 I know, both are fun to watch :)

@diobrando2575 Ай бұрын

I actually really like the J-7D, but I do think it's overtiered for what it is and either needs PL-5Cs or a drop to 10.7.

@RkHy Ай бұрын

Mirage (and Kfir) or maybe Sabres next?

@jaek_898 Ай бұрын

Mirages + Kfirs is going to be an absolute unit of a video to make

@retr0_fps Ай бұрын

ahh yes, the 9.3 hellscape

@easterndragon194 Ай бұрын

The j7e is so much better than all other mig-21's in performance in WT

@Alemikkola Ай бұрын

Obligatory comment to boost the video for the overlords, but what do you have in mind for the next video?

@jaek_898 Ай бұрын

For plane families I want to do Mirages, F-104s, and A-4s, for missiles I need to do the minor nation missile video, and I need to finish my jets 101 video.

@stefanstoia1975 Ай бұрын

This before the r-77 mig 21 gets added

@TamamoF0X Ай бұрын

Wait this is how i find out UK might be getting a fishbed????

@Duality.12 Ай бұрын

oh neat im the 1000th like on the video

@IIW4RHAWKII Ай бұрын

I made the mistake of buying the j7d and I regret it so much

@Fuzeha Ай бұрын

I will say for 9.7, R-3Rs arent exactly bad. Sure, they are very bad on paper, but the wide gimbal limit and decent acceleration of the missile allows you to 'lead' the missile at your targets which greatly improves its capability. I think its better than the AIM-7D in practise if you are good with them. Of course, with most missiles at this BR, it requires a fairly large degree of retardation on the enemies part to be effective.

@sparkling925 Ай бұрын

I think they're best described as a gimmick

@Fuzeha Ай бұрын

@@sparkling925 Nah they have some true effectiveness against enemies going very slow and in headons. I know what you mean tho, its very rare that a good player wont be able to defeat ur missile.

@Bobert_da_man Ай бұрын

4:05 what about the vikhrs on the su25t?

@jaek_898 Ай бұрын

You're right but I should have been more specific; I meant to say nose guided and beam riding. There's nose guided missiles that aren't beam riding (Su-17M2) and there's beam riding missiles that aren't nose guided (Su25T)

@emonster317 Ай бұрын

Nachos go well with vodka

@sharcc2511 Ай бұрын

340 views 27 minutes after posting, bro flew

@jaek_898 Ай бұрын

Channel fell off fr

@milk______________ Ай бұрын

mig 21 for gb, awkward...

@seancushing1113 Ай бұрын

If only there were new engines made mig 21s would endure forever

@wtf27pl12 Ай бұрын

Caught lacking

@ZigaZagu Ай бұрын

It really could be 10.7, couldn't it

@chaseshear Ай бұрын

Posted 11 minutes ago

@MrRangalu Ай бұрын

Always think J-7D should be 10.7

@IsurusOxyrinchus Ай бұрын

F-22 wins against all of them I think

@bombcat5517 Ай бұрын

false, J-7E has no radar therefore F-22 stealth does not work against it. "A ninja who spent a lifetime training his stealth has no bearing on a blind man" - Sun Tzu i think tremendous PLAAF victory once again

@FairFireFight Ай бұрын

J-8B > J-7E fite me

@Mcpecog Ай бұрын

could have sworn this was joob.

@t2av159 Ай бұрын

italian subtree, hungarian

@fusionx7276 Ай бұрын

Where’s the sparrow video

@jaek_898 Ай бұрын

Working on a new version right now

@fusionx7276 Ай бұрын

@@jaek_898 sweet, but there hasn’t been any new sparrows added to the game so what’s it gonna cover that ur last video didn’t also amazing content

@jaek_898 Ай бұрын

@@fusionx7276 Couple reasons for remaking it. I wan't happy with the quality of the audio, I didn't include a section about why the 7F/M goes off to nowhere when you launch it, I can use sensor view now, etc

@Panocek Ай бұрын

@@jaek_898 Any particular reason why Sparrows sometimes don't track? My guess would be "two circles" indicator being not matching missile seeker reception or it gets confused by multiple tracking/guiding radars?

@jaek_898 Ай бұрын

@@Panocek It has to do with the way they have the seeker tuning/filtering set up, combined with the plane's radar. They mess with those values from time to time. As far as I understand it's caused by the seeker being overwhelmed by multiple signals (red circle is accurate but not necesssarily for the plane in question?), or the signal being filtered out somehow. So the ideal situation is a headon, no ground clutter, with only one target in front of you. If you do that they usually work. But if you do a side/rear aspect shot at longer range with multiple planes near your target there's a much higher chance of it not tracking. I just try to minimize the factors that "confuse" it, and not launch it if I think the chance of it going stupid are too high.

@Dreazy_YT Ай бұрын

Honestly the sps-k is kinda underrated, take the gun always. You can use your missiles as “chaff” most of the time in head on’s which works pretty well against 9L’s or really any all aspects in the 10.0 br range.

@sparkling925 Ай бұрын

That's a lot of work to make a just work, especially one you paid money for