Fulgrim: I heard you do strange things to your ships. Khan: ...I heard you do strange things to your warriors.

Fulgrim, at the siege of Terra: Jaghatai, drifting a baneblade through black legion lines, slashing like the interior of an active blender: GREETINGS, PEACOCK.

The Khan is a khan. He's the Emperor of his people and his own Empire. He behaves as such. I'm a fan of the Angel, but I'm really starting to like the Khan as well.

Khan running into Fulgrim on Terra, "Hello there".

Vulkan approves of this burn.

Khan is a litarary "savage". Amazingly pragmatic and says it how it is. Lol, sorta ironic since he is always mistakenly called a savage when in actuality his people are very cultured and sophisticated.

Jaghatai: "Of all his 17 brothers, Mortarion was the only one who, like him, had remained on the utter margins during the great crusade." Perturabo: W T F ???

Jaghatai is really cool. I hope he returns from the webway soon.

The Khan is always blunt and to the point when he talks with his brother Primarchs. Its not because he is trying to be mysterious, its because he feels one should only say whats needed and nothing more. I think he is a underrated Primarch, and the last few Horus Heresy books will bring out his true glory.

If the Primarchs have a Thanksgiving dinner together...... Lorgar: Insists that everybody must pray before eating and makes an overly long speech about the history of Thanksgiving (omitting much of the gruesome details) Russ: Forbidden from drinking alcohol, gets wasted with his stash anyway Magnus: Harassed by a drunk Russ Mortarion: Forced by everyone to take a shower (first time in forever) lest he causes food poisoning or makes someone sick, still manages to make things awkward by taking jokes too seriously Fulgrim: Late for dinner due to his inability to choose between a purple scarf and a magenta scarf, makes everyone uncomfortable with his strong, tacky cologne, very self-conscious about his appearance (especially around the fabulous hawk boy) Khan: Rolls his eyes out of annoyance towards Fulgrim being Fulgrim, nearly got forgotten by everyone since he rarely speaks, mocks Fulgrim for being a tryhard Sanguinius: Trying his best to host dinner and keep his brothers from biting off each other's ears, looking angelic and fabulous effortlessly (unlike a certain peacock) Guilliman: Offers to help Horus and Vulcan prepare dinner, insists on following recipes to the letter Horus: Smiles and nod as Guilliman nags about recipes, secretly annoyed by his blue brother, also mad that father is skipping Thanksgiving (again) Dorn: Finds some time to fix the broken roof, manages to piss off Perturabo (again) by unwittingly insulting him Angron: Angrily complains how past Thanksgiving dinners suck, why Thanksgiving is celebrating how colonists built their colonies on the rotting corpses of American Aboriginals and how dad and Guilliman the golden boy don't understand Alpharius (or Omegon, we can't tell): Fans the flames and snickers behind his brothers' backs Perturabo: Finally gets sick of Dorn and throws a hammer at him, breaking a window by accident Konrad: Stayed in his room to have nightmares, only to be awakened by a hammer to his face Vulcan: Ignores personal boundaries and hugs everyone, only to find the turkey overcooked Corvus: Glares at Lorgar while drowning out his brother's babbling with metal music Ferrus: Late for dinner because his roommate couldn't pick a damn scarf

Fulgrim: *exists* Khan: i'm about to end this man's whole career ...

Mortarion using the phrase "breathe easy" was gold. I'm disappointed that Wolf Lord Rho didn't comment on it.

11:35 And they said Prospero was burned to the ground.

Jaghatai’s greatest power is humility. He has no ego. He has no desire to boast, instead he’ll sit and listen to other make fools of themselves. Despite his reputation, he doesn’t rush headlong into battle, he observes and calculates which path is best.

He is incredibly strategic. He laughs and feasts with his sons but he is cold as a rock when he speaks with his brothers. To him they are not his brothers but other lords in a feduel system who he has to keep a well diplomatic, distant relationship. He sees his father as his overlord, not as his father. His heart beats for his people. He cares only about the best for his people. I love that about the Khan. He sees things for what they truly are and acts accordingly. I admire Jaghatai's logic based thinking more than anything. His only flaw is probably his impulsive nature. I think he knows this weakness of his and does his best to control himself. This control is what makes him appear cold and distant. He is like a high functioning adhd patient.

I don’t even play as White Scars, but honestly. I think He should be the Loyalist Primarch to return next. He’s just so badass...

Every quip by Jaghatai should have been followed by the thug life meme. They should have also called in an Apothecary to treat Fulgrim, because the Kahn burned him.

Khan is a great mix of the Mongols and the Spartan stoicism Definitely makes me lean toward white scars

11:50 This sort of burn would have made Vulkan proud and full of willingnes to give a big hug of friendship to his brother. I guess Jaghatai is all kinds of savage.

Jaghatai Kahn the savage! He burned Fulgrim so bad that Fulgrim had to get himself healed by a chaos god.

I've always been a fan of The Lion, since I got into WH40K. So I'm very bias when it comes to the Warmaster debate. Lion El' Johnson pros: Grand strategists Natural leader Affective in combat Melee skills are just as good as Horus' Knows his enemy Lion El' Johnson cons: Not friendly Hard to get along with Dogmatic I believe Horus was the perfect Warmaster because he was liked by almost all his brothers, and he was a cunning genius.

The Khan has always been my favorite Primarch, even when I was a noob and all I knew of the universe was Sphess Marines, and crazy sci-fi Orkz. When I first learned of the Primarchs, I latched onto him and the White Scars immediately, even though I kind of hated their color scheme. I've just always been a huge fan of The Mongol Empire, and Space Khan was just too cool of an idea, even compared to something as crazy awesome as a blood-drinking angel in power armor. It just sucked that for the longest time, it was hard to learn much about him. Even after I learned about all the cool lore, and awesome feats of the others, the concept of Space Mongols was just too cool for me to change allegiance. I remember reading somewhere about his reaction to The Council of Nicaea (or whatever it was called.) I'm paraphrasing, but he thought "I should have been there. I could have changed things. My people knew of the Warp, and understood that it's not an evil to be feared. It's a power to be respected. With proper discipline, it's too important to ignore." His tribe and Legion have the whole like totemic shaman theme going. Kind of like the Space Wolves, but less savage tribal elemental channeling themes. More like an almost Native American vibe.

Imagine a fighting game where you could play the Primarchs against each other, in different forms and such. Like a Mortal Combat style.

XD Fulgrim: I heard you do strange things to your ships. Khan: ...I heard you do strange things to your warriors. Fulgrim: THOSE VIBRATORS WHERE SANCTIONED

Jaghatai Khan vs Clone Fulgrim who currently stays at Trazyn the Infinite's house of curiosities.

The more i get to know the Khan, the more I think he might be one of the wisest Primarch. He's always so deliberate and thorough.

Can confirm - by the end of Scars, I was fully in love with the white scars and the great Khan whereas before I was indifferent. I absolutely adore this interaction at Ullanor, and the Khan is absolutely correct in his statements

Mortarion: Now we will have to fight to gain a glance from Horus, but he is not the architect of this- he is one of us, it will lead to trouble. (Curb your enthusiasm theme over slideshow of the Horus Heresy)

On Horus, I don think he would of been choosen for Warmaster without being found first, based on the culture of Cthonia (basicly mad max), Horus would of been a warrior primarch much like Angron, Russ or Khan, without any of the wisdom, knowledge, charisma or charm he learned from the emperor on Terra for decades

11:35 just pictured Sang and Morty leaning back and saying "DAAAAMMNN"

You should do when Jaghatai met up with Mortarian after the Heresy started. I think that was in White Scars novel as well. Man, he burns Mortarian and tells him about himself. In the early part of the Heresy, even the Emperor and Malcador didn't know on which side the Kahn was or who he would side with.

The Khan is my second favorite loyalist Primarch behing Sanguinius only cause if the Horus Heresy series. It used to be Corax but the Khan gives zero f****. Which is great

That burn got Vulkan's Hot Seal of Approval.

When I read Scars they went from a legion/chapter that I never cared about to my top 3. Great book!

It’s embarrassing how much I love sanguinius considering he’s a fictional character. Malevolence only stoked that fire. Rip the brightest one

His intention was for them to cover each other's weaknesses.....immediately splits them up and leaves.

Thanks for putting the books at the beginning of all your videos. I've bought a ton of their audiobooks based on your videos! Great job as always

Without your input I would be lost in lore. You are the best! Thank you for this necessary reprieve from life.

digging the Mechanicus score in the background. Cool video. I do want to read Scars now.

11:40 Love that bit there!

Your vids are great, I've been looking for vids like this for years about the characters of the primarchs

4:57 Did the Khan just call Fulgrim a "tryhard" ?

Fulgrim getting roasted is brilliant.

I think the khan will win hes an absolute beast!!!

Wolf I just wanted to make a comment saying I look forward to reading the novel scars now after this thank you and keep it up.

Jaghatai is like the best aspects of Anakin Skywalker and Genghis Khan in one badass demigod

The Khan's personality is the same as his legion's fighting style. Direct & brutal.

I can’t wait till you cover the fight between the Khan and the Death Lord!!!

14:54 Haha my favorite part! 😂

Imagine when he comes back from the web way he has a rematch with fulgrim

just listened to Scars. thank you. i have a huge appreciation for the White Scars and Jaghatai now. in comparison to the other legions the White Scars seem to be the most wise, which was a pleasant surprise.

Just stared Siege of Terra earlier this week. It’s awesome! From the few Khan moments thus far, I’ve been looking forward to reading scars. I initially got it for the Death Guard, Mortartion line, as he and his legion are my favorite traitors.

Ordu Jaghatai! Great video man.

In the immortal words of James Tiberius Kirk: "Kh-aaaaaa-nnnn!!!!!"

I love the way 40k lore leads me into the deep water, asking the big questions. It picks at the scab of what makes humans act humanly while being demi gods.. WolfLordRho gets this. Khan is super dangerous imo btw.. The quiet ones are always more dangerous.

The only thing I learned from this story is that Sanguinius is the biggest troll among all the 20 primarchs

I love the scars...demon or not the Khan is a awesome swordsman..and the scars is a great book..I read it so long ago..it was nice to go back to it

The Khan is easily my favorite primarch next to Russ.

Epic!!!

It's interesting to think how different would Khan and Fulgrim be if they weren't swapped as babies. I wonder how it would affect their personalities and legions.

Jaghati became one of my favorites as soon as they finally started writing about him.

I've never paid much attention to Kahn. Man, I was wrong. 11:50 - THAT was epic.

The Kahn is becoming my favorite loyalist primarch. Cant wait to get to him in the books

Fulgrim died the moment he signed on with Horus during the heresy

This actually made me like Mortarion! That is huge because i can't stand him.

Mortarion was right. One of them being designated Warmaster drove a wedge. But I must say that I think Fulgrim would win in a sword fight against The Khan. Fireblade cuts through weapons, armor and shields like butter.

i recently listen to the audio book of "Scars", and personally while Sangius' voice did come off as overly meek to me, but i did not feel like it was overall detracting because the part is so short and the rest of the voices I thought were so good, that it wasn't really a detractor for me and the Khan's voice when he explain why Fulgrim would lose is so amazing that i still think you should have recommended it.

i think even slaneesh giggled at that burn

“I’ve heard that you do strange things to your warriors.” That was the best response to Fulgrim The Khan could’ve said.

I own scars and read it a few times. Epic read. Morty and jag Going at it was fantastic.

🔥🔥🔥🔥Man loving this channel. I hope it grows to 40K I was working on a vulkan video as you posted the previous video 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

I really enjoyed this book.

7:39 HAH! You nearly couldn't stop yourself from saying it the proper way! "from >my boy< Mortarion here"

I was so close to going white scars... but i've been a space wolves fan for longer... had to join the Rout

Literally every white scars book I read makes me fall in love with the white scars and jaghatai more and more and I truly wish they were more common and more covered in the lore. He is an absolute badass and the Legion are incredible. More than any other Legion, they are able to think as individuals without sacrificing their unity or straying too far from what makes them more human in the same way loken or garro are human. Jaghatai is insanely underrated and scars is one of my favorite horus heresy books. Also mortarions view of the primarchs being different for different things was a perfect way to look at them. I don't like morty but I didn't think he was wrong in this part of this book. When reading the entire chapter, I loved hearing the way he poked at fulgrim. I also think he's only able to have these jealous views of his brothers because he is still bitter at his lot in the world since landing on barbarus. He is always focused on what is unfair and wallowing in it rather than changing it. Sanguinius was already the true best of them in ruling the room

Jaghatai Khan, like many of his brothers, didn't get a lot of "screen time" in the original portions of the HH series. In the first few books of the Siege of Terra series (which I have found FAR superior to the HH series thus far, for various reasons), Khan gets a lot more play. He is definitely a unique personality and a badass on the battlefield.

The Lion laughs at these scrubs trying to sword fight.

I must admit that I have grown to love the khans more and more since reading the books.

Funnily enough, his quote said to fulgrim I actually used this very day, it was a perfect way of putting it.

The insight about the primarch working like rock-paper-scissors against each other is exactly right, and yet more reason to believe the primarchs and legions were designed to wipe themselves out after conquering the galaxy from the beginning.

Would Horus have become Warmaster if he had the same start as Konrad Curze , man ur gonna keep me up all night xD

I wonder: Could there have been a deeper stratagem at play here? Could the Chaos Gods have set it up in an attempt to insure Horas was found first? They're said to have given the Emperor the knowledge that he needed to create his sons. Is it possible that knowledge would have allowed them to know the possible end results, the very character traits breed into each Primarch? I'm fairly certain they were paying very close attention to the creation of the Primarchs evidenced by their stealing them. Could that knowledge in some way have lead them to conclude which among the Primarchs would be more likely to fall to Chaos, which were the easiest among them to corrupt? I guess if they had that knowledge they could have chosen any of the Traitor Primarchs to be found first and spread them across the different lanes of approach the Imperium would take in it's re-Unification Wars? There's also the fact that we know time is fluid for the Chaos Gods so is it possible they'd seen the many possible outcomes in advance? I realize there are probably no answers to the above questions but I find them interesting to ask none the less...

I was thinking Scars was gonna be a slog and I was gonna have to just get it over with...my god though, probably one of the best books in the series. This makes me want to read it again right now

Fulgrim: I heard you do strange things to your ships. Jaghatai: ...I heard you do strange things to your warriors. Vulkan: Not even my Salamanders could produce such a *B U R N*

Rho, this is from my point of view, the best novel

loved the book and i did start a horus heresy army white scars after i read all 30k scars books

I love Jagathai. He is one of not many words but when he speaks it has value. Love the Kahn!

That white scars power armor reminds me of Grey Knight armor

I also get the audio books. Definitely will get this one

That's a Prometheum burn even perpetuals can't recover from.

He may have burned Fulgrim pretty good in that conversation, but his exclusion from the inner circle of Primarchs is no accident. He did not deign to socialize with his brothers or lower his guard around them even for an instant. Basically he treated them like complete strangers, and is then irritated that they never accept or open up to him. There are obvious benefits to this, as he clearly states here, but there are massive drawbacks as well. He never got to spar with his brothers, missing the chance to hone his own skills against someone who could match him, and he could learn something from and test his limits. He forfeited all possibility's of creating a good repor with someone who might have had his back later. Anyway in the middle of a bunch of light banter and some mild grousing, something the Primarchs don't get to do often mind you, Jaghatai comes out of the left field and responds to Fulgrim with the Primarch equivalent of "Oh yeah? Well I fucked your wife." Followed by a dressing down. He turns a rare moment of relaxation between brothers into a near violent incident which Sanguinius has to step in and defuse. I'm not terribly impressed to be honest.

The Kahn is a solid badass.

I think that Horus being found first was all down to the foresight of the Ruinous Powers. There is no such thing as fate in Warhammer. Everything happens for a reason. I think it was planned that Horus be found first to learn from the Emperor more than his brethren and to turn against him with more experience and knowledge.

While Primarchs are arguing about who found first would become Warmaster. Alpharius Omegon who was found first in Terra: "Do tell brothers."

Cracks me up how you say "ass" and not "arse" with that British accent 😋 Great vid

Hey what is the music in the backround of your videos!? It's great! Kinda wanna search for it but dont know where to start lol

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I think the Jab about "Doing strange things to Warriors" might be aimed at Fabius bile and the other Apothecary to cue the Blight.

I think that the Lion is the proto-primarch the Angel. This is one of the reasons he is so hard to read, because the Emperor has masked him to ensure that NONE know it is him. It is why the Emperor doesn't worry about his loyalty, why Malcador sent him to work with Russ, why the Lion deceived both Curze and Fate Weaver. I love the Khan. I love his primarch book. I think that he is the guardian of the Black Library.

I agree with you, it's a huge missed opportunity to have turned the Primarchs into daemons before the heresy ended. They should have been turned in response to their failures to destroy humanity. Not as a boon. Because once they're turned, they are enslaved to the warp. I cannot imagine many of them willingly handing over their freedom like that unless it's because of retribution to failure.