The Windsor Line: From Eton Mess to Royal Railway

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Jago Hazzard

Jago Hazzard

2 жыл бұрын

Eton College, the Royal Family, Isambard Kingdom Brunel and Madame Tussaud get on a train.
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@mattheweagles5123
@mattheweagles5123 2 жыл бұрын
"Fall into sin and depravity" Simply beautiful.
@Human_Herbivore
@Human_Herbivore 2 жыл бұрын
Aka, government.
@dvdvnr
@dvdvnr 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed, but not sure "beautiful" is an apt word for the associated photo!
@Alex-cw3rz
@Alex-cw3rz 2 жыл бұрын
@@Human_Herbivore no AKA Boris, don't fall into his trap of they are all the same
@Human_Herbivore
@Human_Herbivore 2 жыл бұрын
@@Alex-cw3rz well, at least include the whole Tory party. Operation save big dog is clearly still going on.
@Alex-cw3rz
@Alex-cw3rz 2 жыл бұрын
@@Human_Herbivore true
@Richardincancale
@Richardincancale 2 жыл бұрын
3:23 “…Slough proved a little too tempting…”. One of JHs most brilliant lines to date!!!
@steveharvey2001
@steveharvey2001 2 жыл бұрын
“Come, friendly bombs, and fall on Slough! It isn't fit for humans now”
@pjgathergood6987
@pjgathergood6987 2 жыл бұрын
@@steveharvey2001 Just as long as they give me heads up to get well away from the place first!! (I live in it's shadow, in nearby Langley, though try to ignore it's depressing existence).
@comicus01
@comicus01 2 жыл бұрын
I'm an American, care to explain a little more? I get most of his jokes, but this one I didn't even notice.
@Richardincancale
@Richardincancale 2 жыл бұрын
@@comicus01 It’s just that Slough is one of the grimmest towns on the planet. Even the name inspires images of skin falling off animals! So the thought of it being too tempting is just the height of irony. I did go for an interview there once - I looked on the internet for the best pub in Slough to meet in. The two guys I was meeting were a little surprised, they wanted to play safe and meet by the station so they could make a quick getaway. But we walked into the depths of some housing estate in Slough and to a grim looking pub. It really was one of those places where everyone suddenly stopped talking as three strangers walked in!! We had a quickie and left!!!
@aw34565
@aw34565 2 жыл бұрын
@@comicus01 ​ @comicus01 They named a level in the Doom (The seminal 1993 computer game) 'The Slough of Despair' for the town.
@phaasch
@phaasch 2 жыл бұрын
2:23 "... and fall into sin and depravity" (picture of BoJo) Hahaha! Love it.
@KravKernow
@KravKernow 2 жыл бұрын
People may already know this, but just in case... If you've ever been to Cornwall you might have noticed all the palm trees here. Well that's down to GWR too. At the height of railway mania, GWR were very keen to promote Cornwall as an English Riviera. If you check out some of the contemporaneous posters you'll see how Cornwall is just horizontal Italy. And in fairness we do officially have a sub-tropical climate. But to promote the idea GWR bought a load of palm trees (they're actually a New Zealand species) and stuck them along the platforms at stations. They also gave palm trees to local hoteliers, or indeed anyone who asked. The palm trees thrived and now you can't move for them. I have one outside my window. GWR still keep up the flora tradition. The local stations can be quite pretty horticulturally. Although now they tend to go more for flowers.
@frogandspanner
@frogandspanner 2 жыл бұрын
It makes perfect sense to call Eton a _public school_ , which differentiates it from private schools. Anybody can go to a public school (if they have the right kind of money and right kind of parents), but only members of a family could go to their private school.
@blameless_hyperborean8638
@blameless_hyperborean8638 2 жыл бұрын
Historically, a 'private school' was one owned by an individual person as their own business, which they could sell on to someone else when it was time to retire. Most of these only had a few pupils and would effectively be someone doing tutoring for a few sons of gentlemen as a side-hustle to being a parish clergyman. However, most towns and cities would have a grammar school which had been endowed by some wealthy individual or corporation in the aftermath of the Reformation. These did not belong to any one individual, but would have an endowment managed by governors who would have the power to appoint and oversee the Head. In that sense, therefore, they were public institutions. By the 19th century, the most important of these had come to be known as Public Schools because they had particularly wealthy endowments and had particular importance for the training of the governing class. It was these that were investigated by the Clarendon Commission to see whether they were fulfilling the purposes of their foundation. It was only with the 1870 Education Act that the state and local authorities became embedded in the funding and oversight of schools generally.
@hosedevil
@hosedevil 2 жыл бұрын
As an old Met relief signalman to a main line driver for SWT, I do enjoy your videos.
@dronespace
@dronespace 2 жыл бұрын
❤️ Met Line
@zigzogoid4591
@zigzogoid4591 2 жыл бұрын
Rather than just a curve into Slough from the south at the top end, it used to be part of a rail triangle. This allowed specials (and freight) to run to run from Windsor to out west. This triangle was used for 'turning' visiting longer tender locomotives, that the short turntable at Slough shed couldn't handle. Thought you'd like this bit of rail trivia from an old Slough resident.
@delurkor
@delurkor 2 жыл бұрын
When you call the track configuration triangle, I am assuming the North American term is "WYE", pronounced WHY. Now someone explain the British "loop" as opposed to siding. Thank you.
@zigzogoid4591
@zigzogoid4591 2 жыл бұрын
@@delurkor A loop is a short section of double track to enable trains to pass each other on what is mainly a long section of single track. That's how I understand it to mean.
@andyalder7910
@andyalder7910 2 жыл бұрын
Chalvey's pronounced Charvey isn't it?
@librarian16
@librarian16 2 жыл бұрын
@@zigzogoid4591 On a double, or more, track railway a loop is a short length of additional track which can allow a train to be passed by more important trains.
@delurkor
@delurkor 2 жыл бұрын
@@librarian16 If I understand, in North American terms a loop is a passing siding. Thank you and Zig Zogold for the clarification.
@Blade_Daddy
@Blade_Daddy 2 жыл бұрын
A very detailed look into this line. I never fail to learn something from you.
@peterjohncooper
@peterjohncooper 2 жыл бұрын
One of your best. A remarkably restrained discourse that, in a way, sums up pretty well all of the last two hundred years of British History. I would have given it both barrels.
@jtsholtod.79
@jtsholtod.79 2 жыл бұрын
Ah Jago, we all know the shot placement at 11:17 was no mistake. Brilliant.
@dronespace
@dronespace 2 жыл бұрын
Lol
@brandonb3279
@brandonb3279 2 жыл бұрын
"Slough proved a little too tempting - as it so often does" 🤣 Your dead-pan delivery of such remarks is divine!
@aoifeann1238
@aoifeann1238 2 жыл бұрын
This makes me so sad. I never knew that Windsor and Eton central ever had more than one line. I wish I could have seen it in its magnificence.
@isashax
@isashax 2 жыл бұрын
The Boris pic made me laugh out loud! When I visited the castle years ago, I wondered why there is not a direct train from London. Now I know! Also amazes me that this station isn't better served being auch a touristy destination!
@blameless_hyperborean8638
@blameless_hyperborean8638 2 жыл бұрын
There are direct trains to Waterloo from the other station (Riverside)
@isashax
@isashax 2 жыл бұрын
@@blameless_hyperborean8638 ahh thanks! Some years ago I had ro change in Slough. But I didn't buy the ticket so not sure if there was that alternative.
@timw.8452
@timw.8452 2 жыл бұрын
@@blameless_hyperborean8638 Yes, it's a decent option if you have plenty of time on your hands.
@iankemp1131
@iankemp1131 2 жыл бұрын
It would make a logical western terminus for some Elizabeth Line trains, but the Slough track layout precludes it. GWR and Western Region were never very commuter-orientated; Windsor, Marlow and Henley are served by branch trains and you have to change. The Southern Railway put in flyovers so you get direct electric services from London to places like Hampton Court, Chessington/Epsom, Cobham, Kingston/Shepperton ... and Windsor.
@MattBrunton1965
@MattBrunton1965 2 жыл бұрын
Upvoted for the line "cringe their way into the corner of the shopping centre". What a superb choice of word.
@bob56gibson
@bob56gibson 2 жыл бұрын
Only yesterday I watched a recording of the excellent "The Architecture The Railways Built.". Presented by the always enthusiastic Tim Dunn and featuring both the Windsor Stations in Great detail. Then today you fill in the political blanks with your usual charm and wit. My cup runneth over.
@martyonline1957
@martyonline1957 2 жыл бұрын
I was trying to think I'd seen this line before, Mr Tim Dunn's excellent show on Yesterday channel. It rang a bell about the arches, 32 of them ? and there not big enough for the Eton erks to get up to mischief into. The arches at Windsor & Eton station are tall enough for the mounted guards to meet HM off the train back in the day
@celtickhan6136
@celtickhan6136 2 жыл бұрын
We recently saw Queen Adelaide's royal coach in National rail museum in York the carriage was really tiny. We also went on the NYMR railway 🚂. Queen Victoria's carriage is amazing. Got to love the GWR for sticking two fingers up to Eton college.
@andyjay729
@andyjay729 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder what Victoria would've thought if she could've seen about 150 years into the future, with jumbo jets on approach to Heathrow passing almost right over the castle. Probably would've found trains rather peaceful by comparison.
@RJSRdg
@RJSRdg 2 жыл бұрын
It's said that the present Queen can identify any modern airliner passing over the Castle from its sound!
@davidpage8223
@davidpage8223 2 жыл бұрын
Ah, happy memories. I lived in Winsor in the 1980's and recall vividly the 'Royalty and Railways' exhibition. (late re-named, I think, to Royalty and Empire) It was a wonderfully conceived piece of Tussauds work. Immaculately done. I remember sitting on a station bench next to a Chelsea Pensioner who could have been very real! It was the first time in the UK I had seen animatronic figures...the figure of Queen Victoria spoke from the stage and rose out of her chair!! O often wonder what happened to those Tussauds figures. Thanks Jago for another great video.
@aoifeann1238
@aoifeann1238 2 жыл бұрын
Oh I wish I could have seen that. Born too late sadly
@mdhazeldine
@mdhazeldine 2 жыл бұрын
I've never actually ridden on that line, although I have been on the SWR line quite a few times. What I do remember very well though was the exhibition. I was born in 82 and I remember my Mum taking me there. It was quite an impressive spectacle with loads of waxwork soldiers on horses etc. It was a bit disappointing to here it had been turned into a shopping centre, but I have visited there several times and I have to say, it was done very nicely and is a lovely place to walk around. At least it wasn't just demolished and turned into a modern mall with no character. We should be thankful for that.
@TheKlink
@TheKlink 2 жыл бұрын
way too much has been lost of institutional architectural vandalism.
@pmduk69
@pmduk69 Жыл бұрын
I was living in Windsor at the time of that exhibition opening and remember being very impressed that some of the waxworks actually moved!
@ianhelps3749
@ianhelps3749 2 жыл бұрын
The roof at the station can be seen from quite a distance outside the town centre. As a boy, I imagined that the station would see lots of express trains hauled by Warships and Westerns. Quite disappointed to find that there was only one platform and just a DMU pottering on a single track line to Slough.
@zetectic7968
@zetectic7968 2 жыл бұрын
What has been done in the name of progress: recently I mean. Ernest Marples commissioned Dr Beeching to do a hatchet job on the railways that has set the country back, causing many problems as Motorways were not the answer & have brought congestion & pollution rather than the "freedom of the open road" One day enlightened people will realise that railways & trams should be paramount in the 21st Century
@DavidMartin-ym2te
@DavidMartin-ym2te 2 жыл бұрын
First time I have heard Marples declared as corrupt - well said, he most certainly was but got away with it. Makes the current bunch look like amateurs.
@RogersRamblings
@RogersRamblings 2 жыл бұрын
An interesting story that encapsulates so much of British industry and life, NIMBYism, "rationalising" (which is so much easier than building and increasing trade) and general negativity.
@tomwatts703
@tomwatts703 2 жыл бұрын
3:35 a lovely combination of three of my favourite things: railways, malicious compliance stories, and sticking it to the rich and powerful
@bingbong7316
@bingbong7316 2 жыл бұрын
The L&SWR, though, were sneaky enough to build the "Staines Chord", enabling direct services to Ascot from their Windsor station.
@mdhazeldine
@mdhazeldine 2 жыл бұрын
The doesn't exist anymore does it? When was it turned into a carpark?
@bingbong7316
@bingbong7316 2 жыл бұрын
@@mdhazeldine I haven't been that way for 10 years and I vaguely remember the structure still being there. Good question though, somebody knows!
@RJSRdg
@RJSRdg 2 жыл бұрын
There was also a west-facing chord at Slough.
@robertcollins106
@robertcollins106 2 жыл бұрын
I took this line the night Windsor Castle caught fire. A spectacular view of the blaze.
@trumptontally3383
@trumptontally3383 2 жыл бұрын
While it’s fair to say I have less interest in rail than I do in the underground (but always interested in Jago’s content) this one knocked it out the park. Absolutely fantastic script! There are parts bordering on poetry!
@phaasch
@phaasch 2 жыл бұрын
Great video, Jago, loaded with trademark wit, sarcasm and irony. And a subject like this would be difficult to approach without those attributes. A royal station now turned into a tourist attraction and retail park, with the odd "cringing" DMU just to keep it real. And Eton college still holding the whip hand (no allusions there, honest) of the country's governance, as it is.
@RichardWatt
@RichardWatt 2 жыл бұрын
Some Etonians like being whipped, I've heard some of them will even pay good money for someone else to do it to them.
@tt-ew7rx
@tt-ew7rx 2 жыл бұрын
Agree! A brilliant episode full of gems. Great fun.
@rosiefay7283
@rosiefay7283 2 жыл бұрын
No allusions to any Etonians at any rate.
@phaasch
@phaasch 2 жыл бұрын
@@rosiefay7283 😏
@demonmonsterdave
@demonmonsterdave 2 жыл бұрын
Slough is one of the most wonderful destinations in the world.
@ginganinja93
@ginganinja93 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, I thought I knew all there was to know about this section of line but I knew almost none of this!! Fascinating, and sooo glad Windsor remained as it was a key line for me for half my life!! Never knew it had more than 1 platform, makes so much sense 😂😂
@ginganinja93
@ginganinja93 2 жыл бұрын
But actually I worry they're running it down again, the trains used to be incredibly regular: 6 mins each way, and it would only wait at each station for 5 or so minutes, so would run every 15-20 minutes. Last time I used it I assumed nothing had changed, and was furious to realise that now its more like ever FOURTY minutes!! Of course, I'd JUST missed a train so felt the full brunt of the change... why reduce something so popular?!?! Its always busy!
@baxtermarrison5361
@baxtermarrison5361 2 жыл бұрын
It is a surprise that both Winsor stations survived the ravishes of the good doctor and his corrupt master. Sufficient traffic to both Slough and Staines I guess. It is a shame that the two rivals were not a little more cooperative given that both terminus are within spitting distance, a direct service from Slough to Staines and beyond...?
@highpath4776
@highpath4776 2 жыл бұрын
Didnt the GWR have a station in the Staines area too ?
@baxtermarrison5361
@baxtermarrison5361 2 жыл бұрын
@@highpath4776 Indeed, but the LSWR were there before the GWR. Clearly the GWR preferred to work from the 'forbidden fruit' of a station that was Slough.
@pjgathergood6987
@pjgathergood6987 2 жыл бұрын
Knew you were on my home turf, JH, when you stuck up a couple of Windsor photos on Instagram (I'm Langley/canal based and often head into Windsor, by power of foot). Despite local history being my big thing, I had never consciously realised Eton's opposition to the railway - when I saw the video title I wondered/assumed if it was similar to how the Slough Arm of the Grand Union Canal was originally planned to go considerably further and even join with the Thames at Windsor, but it was the vast pockets of land owned by Eton College on all sorts of technicalities (for that read: "Old school tie brigade") which prevented it. Then again, Eton College seems to have always maintained a them-and-us, "we look after ourselves" closed doors attitude with adjoining areas throughout the ages - friends in high places quite literally. (Plans to indeed join the canal with Windsor occasionally resurface to this day, but given all the stuff in the way nowadays, it's exceptionally unlikely IMO). Either way I do find the Windsor line a charming and quite "old fashioned" feeling little route (even if, on my first job working in Windsor, it used to take best half of an hour to train it from Langley to Windsor thanks to the change at Slough and the half-hourly run train needed for the connection always scheduled to leave four minutes earlier than the connecting train was timetabled to reach the station...!), and have always found it odd more isn't made of the line (and potentially very charming station) nowadays to incorporate it with the main line out of Paddington, given Windsor's tourist-driven status being so high that many/most "walks in London" guide books include Windsor by default!
@rjjcms1
@rjjcms1 2 жыл бұрын
Thus,if you're where the Slough Branch comes off the Grand Union Canal and you want to go to Windsor by boat it'd have to be via Brentford (places along the way include Hayes,Southall,Hanwell with its rapid descent of locks,Syon Park + House,Kew Gardens,Twickenham,Teddington,Kingston,Hampton Court,Shepperton,Chertsey,Staines,Runnymede).
@pjgathergood6987
@pjgathergood6987 2 жыл бұрын
@@rjjcms1 Indeed. With the infamous Hanwell Flight en route. Which is always fun when they're all set against you.
@rjjcms1
@rjjcms1 2 жыл бұрын
@@pjgathergood6987 haha,yes. Heading downstream there's that long,long stretch without any locks from Cowley to Norwood Green - and then 12 of them close together in the last bit before the canal feeds into the Thames including those 6 in a row at Hanwell,with that big,tall old brick wall running alongside,the outer bound of the Victorian hospital that used to be an asylum. Having first travelled that way on my father's boat as a child,I number them 1 to 12 going downstream,making them numbers 3 down to 8,and I heard the dozen of them called the Bull Locks though they might have been jesting there. The 9th or 10th ones are called the Osterley Locks,before the couple of dual ones beneath Brentford High Street and just before the exit into the Thames. At the top of the Hanwell Flight there is a piece of engineering and architecture I've always admired: the meeting of three bridges at one point,carrying road,rail and waterway coming from different angles,intersecting and going their separate ways again. Apparently it was one of Isambard Kingdom Brunel's accomplishments.
@pjgathergood6987
@pjgathergood6987 2 жыл бұрын
@@rjjcms1 I know it well - I'm based in Cowley and often enjoy the walk up to Brentford and back; or Paddington if feeling a bit more urban. Boat-trips wise we generally take people in the other direction into the Colne Valley as it's a bit more picturesque ... lesser shopping trolleys. :)
@rjjcms1
@rjjcms1 2 жыл бұрын
@@pjgathergood6987 We don't have a boat any more,unfortunately,but in the mid-70s our was moored first at Harefield Boat Yard and then,by 1976,outside the Swan & Bottle pub in Uxbridge,where my sister and me would put some of our pocket money in the fruit machine. We travelled up to Batchworth,and later to Croxley,Watford's Cassiobury Park and a bit beyond past the paper,etc. mills. In the other direction we went up the Thames nearly as far as Henley,mooring overnight at an island that had cows on it before turning back on our way home (2 day dash after 12 leisurely days). I managed to fall into the Thames off the outer (starboard) side just past Hambleden Lock. In 1988-89,when I was working in an office which had been taken over by a horrid boss and their even worse stooge,I used to unwind after a taxing summer or early autumn days with toepath walks nostalgically retracing the route,from Harefield up to Batchworth,Rickmansworth in one direction and then in stages down to Brentford and a short way up the Thames.
@brucewilliams8714
@brucewilliams8714 2 жыл бұрын
On a visit to Britain, one of my Windsor highlights was the Tussaud's waxworks re-creation of a Royal Family arrival at Windsor. The children alighting, the Indian servant in the royal waiting room, Guardsmen on parade. Even the loco's funnel was emtiing faux smoke. It was marvellous. So was the Castle tour. Thanks, Jago, for the details I didn't know.
@stephenpegum9776
@stephenpegum9776 2 жыл бұрын
When I first moved up to London in the late 70's & before we owned a car, my wife & I did travel to Windsor by rail for a day trip. I must say I had delusions of grandeur when we arrived at the station, having been aware of its Royal connections !! 😎😱
@charlieOkeene
@charlieOkeene Жыл бұрын
Of all your brilliant videos, adding up to hours of viewing, 2.15 to 2.25 of this video are the best 10 seconds you've ever produced! 🤣🤣
@snich63
@snich63 2 жыл бұрын
As a Kiwi who lived in Windsor and worked in Slough in 1999, I was very much looking forward to this one. Your footage brought back a lot of memories of what was a very nice commute. I note it also included one of the MANY jets on final approach to Heathrow. I don’t have such pleasant memories of those.
@adrianrutterford762
@adrianrutterford762 2 жыл бұрын
Wonderful stuff
@Mudkip0408
@Mudkip0408 2 жыл бұрын
Another great video Jago!
@gordanmilne7034
@gordanmilne7034 2 жыл бұрын
Nicely put together.
@oldgittarist
@oldgittarist 2 жыл бұрын
Beautifully done, Jago!
@petercourt
@petercourt 2 жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed this!
@MrGreatplum
@MrGreatplum 2 жыл бұрын
One of your very best, Jago. Fantastic!
@keithorchard3137
@keithorchard3137 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent as always, Jago !
@harbl99
@harbl99 2 жыл бұрын
"It has become, in a way, a museum of itself." Sir Christopher Wren's epitaph applies.
@peterhunt5523
@peterhunt5523 2 жыл бұрын
My grandad worked at the Royal waiting room which became the office of the signal and telegraph dept. at Windsor Central.
@hpot53
@hpot53 2 жыл бұрын
Many thanks, Jago for all your videos. They are a bright spot in my day. Cheers!
@ianb9103
@ianb9103 2 жыл бұрын
Thankyou Jago.
@shaunwest3612
@shaunwest3612 2 жыл бұрын
Great video jago, very interesting, thanks 👍👌😀
@andrewmarch7891
@andrewmarch7891 2 жыл бұрын
Nice piece of story telling Jago thank you.
@daveconyard8946
@daveconyard8946 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Jago Spot on NICE one Keep safe. 👍
@modelrailpaulcee
@modelrailpaulcee 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video, young sir - in fact, I may even say, one of your best!
@EleanorMortonable
@EleanorMortonable 2 жыл бұрын
I absolutely love your videos and I'm so happy I found them - it's EXACTLY the sort of random tube history stuff I want to know!
@marlenevermeulen5355
@marlenevermeulen5355 Ай бұрын
I am enjoying listening to you.
@waltertomashefsky2682
@waltertomashefsky2682 2 жыл бұрын
I say! Quite Interesting. One of your best history videos. It reminded me of my visit there some years ago.
@jgodfrey546
@jgodfrey546 2 жыл бұрын
Most interesting! Made a day of a visit to Windsor a few years ago; down on the LSWR, up on the GWR. Great fun indeed..
@yorkshireball_animations
@yorkshireball_animations 2 жыл бұрын
You made it! The video about my town’s line!
@send2gl
@send2gl 2 жыл бұрын
Fascinating video.
@davidjohnson00001
@davidjohnson00001 2 жыл бұрын
Great video, Jago. So convoluted I expected Chuck Yerkes to appear.
@robertweissman4850
@robertweissman4850 2 жыл бұрын
Jago- Thank you for this excellent video. It will help viewers who value knowing about history, royalty and railways. The Great Western Railway (surely one of the finest of all railways anywhere) came out of this with honour.
@rowanmorgan457
@rowanmorgan457 2 жыл бұрын
Best video you've done JH. A hat-tip to you.
@RJSRdg
@RJSRdg 2 жыл бұрын
The viaduct appears in the Norman Wisdom film "On the Beat" - in the scene where Norman is arrested some of the police come through the arches of the viaduct. Although the field Norman was arrested in has been redeveloped, the adjoining street where the football match takes place can be seen from the train and looks little different to how it did in the film.
@TadeuszCantwell
@TadeuszCantwell 2 жыл бұрын
Shuttle Service to Slough is the name of my new post-punk metal band.
@Tevildo
@Tevildo 2 жыл бұрын
There was a band, in that very genre, called "Hooton 3 Car", active about 30 years ago. I'm pretty sure they did a couple of John Peel sessions, and were reasonably popular locally.
@jacquesleroux5069
@jacquesleroux5069 Жыл бұрын
Very interesting.
@SimonRML2456
@SimonRML2456 2 жыл бұрын
A fantastic episode as these stations were always fascinating to me, if you look at Google maps, which I am sure you have, you can see how the station would have looked with all the lines that ran from it, sad to see its just one platform ops, as Windsor is not a quiet town... No future thought by BR... Well done on thus episode Jago... 😊👍🏽👍🏽
@elizabethspedding1975
@elizabethspedding1975 2 жыл бұрын
I've done this journey many times.💞
@dubliner1100
@dubliner1100 2 жыл бұрын
Brilliant, informative and witty as usual. You are probably the most erudite and eloquent presenter on KZfaq
@davespagnol8847
@davespagnol8847 2 жыл бұрын
Before I met the lady who is now my wife, I used to meet a friend for a day out in Windsor. I'd go from London via Slough, for no other reason than she lived just outside Slough so we'd meet in the station there and finish the journey together. The trains were every 20 minutes and were just comfortably almost but not quite full. I was told that Eton was originally a charitable school (legally it still is but that's another issue/scandal), but for underprivileged boys. It relied on donations from rich patrons. The standard of education was high, and so those rich patrons used to make their donations on the grounds that their little Tristrams were allowed to attend, until the space for the "underprivileged" element became minimal.
@highpath4776
@highpath4776 2 жыл бұрын
Slough and Windsor sounds like the out of town Waterloo and City
@moogmike1
@moogmike1 2 жыл бұрын
great content
@neilbain8736
@neilbain8736 2 жыл бұрын
The diplomacy involving Brunel and everyone else must have seen very interesting things going on behind the scenes. Pity that its fall was engineered while it was doing so well. There must have some very dodgy things going on behind these scenes too. What a fine picture of Boris you found after the Met found and fined him.
@nik67502
@nik67502 2 жыл бұрын
I grew up in Windsor. It was a small pleasure back in the 70's to buy a First Class ticket for this 5 minute run.
@sweetdude1298
@sweetdude1298 2 жыл бұрын
I live in a town between Nottingham and Chesterfield, literally never beneath near London or even Greater London in my life, yet these videos are always interesting to me 🤷‍♀️
@nesnoj
@nesnoj 2 жыл бұрын
Ah yes, the many temptations of Slough
@stuartmilerosborne
@stuartmilerosborne 2 жыл бұрын
Although it is obvious the reason that the line was run on the long viaduct was that Old Father Thames had a tendency to flood and the meadows were quite low lying ....clever chap Brunel.....
@seanolaocha940
@seanolaocha940 2 жыл бұрын
"Slough proved a little too tempting, as it so often does"
@grumpyoldman47
@grumpyoldman47 2 жыл бұрын
Another good video Something you didn't mention was the the funeral trains of both King George V and King George VI went from Paddington to Windsor; George V's was pulled by Windsor Castle, and when it came to George VI's funeral train, Windsor Castle was in Swindon Works being overhauled and so its name and number were transferred to another Castle class loco - I think it was Bristol - specially for the occasion. George VI died at Sandringham, and although it was known that he was very ill his actual death was unexpected; I don't know if there're all coincidences, but as well as Windsor Castle being in works the Great Eastern line's Royal Train engine, Royal Sovereign, was also in works - were they both being prepared for duties which were known to be on the way but arrived sooner than expected? The Eastern Region didn't do a name and number swop like the Western though - the back-up engine (Ford Castle) hauled the train from Wolferton to King's Lynn, and then Britannia onwards to King's Cross
@RJSRdg
@RJSRdg 2 жыл бұрын
Watching some old footage recently of the King waving off Princess Elizabeth and Prince Phillip on their plane to Kenya in 1952, I got the impression that he at least wasn't sure he'd still be alive when they returned. I also understand that Prince Philip had packed a replica Royal Standard in the bottom of his suitcase for the eventuality that the King died while they were away. However I doubt that Princess Elizabeth knew how ill her father was, or she would have cancelled the trip - I believe the King hid the full extent of his illness from her (and therefore from the rest of the nation) to ensure the trip went ahead.
@GothicSteamEngine96
@GothicSteamEngine96 2 жыл бұрын
I used to live local to this line, as Windsor was my local shopping centre, Slough being not so popular as far as I can remember. I was always fascinated by the steam locomotive on display when commuting there.
@tomasjones3755
@tomasjones3755 2 жыл бұрын
I appreciate your rational explanation, to this unrational story
@jknelhams
@jknelhams 2 жыл бұрын
Thoroughly enjoyable Jago, interesting to see your take on a line I’m involved in the day-to-day running of. Couple of follow up bits of pedantry for comment readers:- Through services from Paddington to Windsor did last on a once-daily basis into the early years of the 21st century; I think it was the May 2004 timetable change that finally saw them succumb. Typically on a weekday it is a 2 carriage diesel unit, 3 carriages provided on weekends to help with tourist loadings. Despite appearances, 3 carriages isn’t the maximum the line can handle - the fence across the end of the platform at the Slough end of Windsor station is designed to be removed; and longer trains can be run if platform staff are provided at the station (up to 5 carriages) - such arrangements were put in place for the wedding of the Duke and Duchess of Sussex in 2018; and would likely be revived in the event of other, perhaps more sombre royal occasions. The Platform at Slough is 5 carriage capable without modification.
@harrypenn611
@harrypenn611 2 жыл бұрын
Oh I was there today , only down the road
@whyyoulidl
@whyyoulidl 2 жыл бұрын
Thx Jago for another fantastic well researched and delivered mini-doc. And my contribution to this masterpiece? 05:22 This guy Prince Albert has eyes like Lemmy!
@Roblilley999
@Roblilley999 2 жыл бұрын
Being a slough resident I use this little quirky line often.
@PtolemyJones
@PtolemyJones 2 жыл бұрын
A fun, but ultimately sad tale. All the talk of the important trains running thru there put me in mind of a delightful episode of the old spy show The Avengers, with Steed and Mrs. Peel entitled A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Station. Worth a watch if you are a train fan, which I assume we mostly are here. Thew talk of the corrupt minister who profited from the building of roads reminds me of the story of the loss of the trolleys in Los Angeles, because powerful forces that sold tires for buses wanted them gone. Another sad tale.
@flyentity
@flyentity 2 жыл бұрын
“Sin and depravity”. Very well put Jago…
@andrewreynolds4949
@andrewreynolds4949 2 жыл бұрын
A large part of why the line is run by a DMU shuttle is because the branch is not electrified, unlike the main line
@tombullen5676
@tombullen5676 2 жыл бұрын
get bent............joufully hilarious! thank you jago.
@SteveSleeperTrains
@SteveSleeperTrains 2 жыл бұрын
One of your better vids I think
@Cloudrak
@Cloudrak 2 жыл бұрын
I hope we see some Class 769 units running to Windsor, the platforms have 4 car markers. Could also allow direct services into London while using electrification from Slough onwards.
@hectorthorverton4920
@hectorthorverton4920 2 жыл бұрын
There is a difficulty however. The branch enters Slough beside the fast lines, so that any through service would have to (a) stop at Slough on the up Fast, where it would as a result take up multiple timetable paths, and (b) cross the down Fast to get there, then cross the down Relief to gain the up Relief, taking up paths on these other lines. With the tracks being as intensively used as they are, I can't see that being contemplated. Sorry about that.
@timw.8452
@timw.8452 2 жыл бұрын
@@hectorthorverton4920 Agreed. There are other branches with this problem. One is the Bromley North to Grove Park shuttle (only about 2km) . Many schemes have been proposed to make it more useful, such as connecting it to DLR or London Overground. But the fact that it joins the main line on the fast lines makes these schemes unviable without massive investment.
@andrewdolinskiatcarpathian
@andrewdolinskiatcarpathian 2 жыл бұрын
Broadcast quality 👌👏👏👍😀
@bluemayim
@bluemayim 2 жыл бұрын
every video you put out is a royal excursion Jago!
@jonathangat4765
@jonathangat4765 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting video. I always wondered about why that line exists in the form that it does.
@johnburns4017
@johnburns4017 2 жыл бұрын
I recall in the 1990s taking a _direct_ train from Paddington to Windsor.
@WolfmanWoody
@WolfmanWoody 2 жыл бұрын
I moved to Windsor in 1981 staying in a hotel for 6 months until house selling business was completed and remember them starting on the Royalty exhibition. Later when my f-i-l visited we went to see it. Quite nice, but very typical of a Tussauds display. The kids enjoyed it. Today, our fishing association enjoys the angling rights on the Thames from the railway viaduct upstream with permission from Eton College. Note: We did ask them first!
@PeterGaunt
@PeterGaunt 2 жыл бұрын
Jeez that's changed a lot from when I was last there for the Windsor rock festivals in the 1970s.
@jonstout9236
@jonstout9236 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Jago, interesting story! I wonder if you might consider a mini-series touching on the green spaces of London, such as Victoria Park and so on... ?
@whyyoulidl
@whyyoulidl 2 жыл бұрын
I think I remember Jago doing something on the fountain in the park. Maybe I should re-word that sentence, but you get my drift...
@IBRailVid
@IBRailVid 2 жыл бұрын
There still is royal trains from both stations, mostly the using the GWR branch, but they don't want people to know about them for security reasons and tend to be at night so Liz or Charlie can get some kip aboard before a strenuous day of ribbon cutting and the like.
@cheesedoff-with4410
@cheesedoff-with4410 2 жыл бұрын
Good stuff. You even managed to squeeze in a glimpse of allotments. What's not to like? Thanks.
@barrieshepherd7694
@barrieshepherd7694 2 жыл бұрын
Great video - the wit and satire approach, particularly of the Eaton influence, should make the story a candidate for a Spitting Image sketch.
@groovydonkey
@groovydonkey 2 жыл бұрын
Sin and depravity while showing a pic of Boris....How true somethings are....lol. Great video and really informative
@tonywise198
@tonywise198 2 жыл бұрын
I last travelled this line in 1957, on an ex-GWR Railcar. I used to live near Burnham Station down the line. A bit changed from then, I see.
@johnjephcote7636
@johnjephcote7636 2 жыл бұрын
I am out of touch now, but there used to be the old London and Birmingham railway station on the north side of the St.Albans Road bridge at Watford. There were steps there known as 'Queen Adelaides's steps' as ashe had used the L&B to visit the Duke of Buckingham's estate at Cashiobury. (there were also stone block sllepers built into the retaining wall opposite). This was when I left Watford in 1968. Perhaps the building, steps and all, have gone the same way as the later LNWR station and engine shed that I used to know.
@martyonline1957
@martyonline1957 2 жыл бұрын
Watford Junction marks the present limit of the suburban area and of electric traction. The station in its present location dates from the 1850s, the original- the first "Principal Station" out of Euston on the L&B - having been situated a little further North. Parts of the original station are incorporated in the District Engineer's depot (up side). The flight of stone steps leading down to the lineside at the depot is still known as "Queen Adelaide's Steps" having been provided for the Queen Dowager when she made train journeys to or from Watford. An "Up Third (Goods) line was opened between Watford and Bletchley in 1859; this line was gauntletted with the Up Fast Line through Watford Tunnel until the completion of Watford New Tunnel (carrying the Slow Lines) in 1874 The fourth track between Watford and Tring was passed for passenger traffic in November 1875. Approaching Watford Tunnels the Slow Lines bear away slightly to the East to traverse the New Tunnel. The Old Tunnel gave some trouble in its construction, due to the looseness of the chalk, and ten men were killed by a subsidence of one of the shafts.
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