Yes and with night club band music in the back ground, a TOS feel for sure.

I loved it for exactly that reason. I don’t remember the exact moments I met most of the important relationships in my life. I just remember that suddenly they were there. Then 30 years went by and I’m hugging them in an airport because we don’t even live in the same city anymore.

I also love how the room had a 60's vibe about it...

i couldnt get here fast enough to say this LOL that ending scene with all 3 of them together! :) :) :)

Yep true

He's starting to wear the gravitas of this iconic captain

Yea I like the different iterations in the different time lines. I said this on another comment but I did/do not like his look for the character I don’t think he fits the look. Kirk should be a tad shorter. Or at least not lanky; stalkier and the blonde hair, I think, is a staple of the character as well. That said he is growing on me.. I’m trying. His acting is good I’m just struggling to get past him not looking like James T Kirk to me. Pine and Shatner some how look similar… Pine even got some blonde put in his hair. This guy just doesn’t look anything like Shatner or Pine or how I could/would picture Kirk looking. I feel I can’t be alone on this. But again, that said he is growing on me and I LOVE the shoe and love we are getting more Kirk.

@@zachwalton3544 I have that problem as well. The build thing is a problem for me. Shatner was more solid and was able to sell the physical element of Kirk better.

Yep. Smart, friendly, a good mentor to junior staff, and competent without being an ass.

It's helpful that he's not played by Shatner, who spent most of his life outside of the role being a generally self-centered jerk. As Spock said, "It was harder for them, being barbarians, to pretend to be civilized than it was for you, as civilized people, to pretend to be barbarians".

​@@woodrobinindeed, I was going to add to the conversation that it seemed like a lot of the dislikable traits in Kirk, especially in the TMP era (which were likely shatner showing through) overshadowed what Kirk was intended to be originally.

The "ur being a dick" tax is real.

That's a good point lol 😂

I also love that SNW is digging on slobs...people who eat at work and mess up their work clothes.

Hahahaha well said!!

It happened to me with a friend who had to work some with my older brother. If I recall the episode in original Star Trek where Jim discusses his brother he kind of mentions there was always tension between them, they never saw eye to eye but they still loved each other.

@@deanfirnatine7814 I would say that it was well Illustrated in this episode and The Chemistry Between the Kirk Brothers was fantastic

A friendship that will define the both of them, last decades, and transcend timelines

Yes, they got this one right.

@UncleMikeNJ 100% As Spock Prime said in Star Trek '09, "You needed each other. I could not deprive you of the revelation of all that you could accomplish together. Of a friendship that will define you both in ways you cannot realize."

@@FomorViceroy That quote is just some cringe meta Abrams shit, bro.

@@spenser9908 Despite your thoughts on the line, that doesn't mean it didn't happen.

YES!!! I think it's just the comfortability of the role.

I like that he's picked up the best of both. This Kirk didn't lose his dad, but the punk kid that could've been is still there.

I LOVE Chris Pines Kirk. Shatner is OG GOATed similar to Keaton as Batman but Wesley is killin it. I was on the fence at first. I know it may sound judgmental (although when going through headshots casting directors do the same) but I don’t like his look for the character. Feel we need someone less lanky; shorter, stalkier perhaps and The blonde hair I think is a staple of the character. That said he is growing on me.

@@zachwalton3544 Agree with you on the physicality of the character. Kirk is a physical badass, kicking butts across the galaxy. Wesley is kind of lanky, where Shatner and Pine were a little more physically imposing. I guess it can be looked at as Kirk still being young and not having “filled out” yet.

Same here. I originally thought this Kirk was miscast, but now I see why they like him.

Well said.

Paul has done a great job. In this episode he uses a lot of Shatner mannerisms and facial ticks whilst making the character his own. Leaning on his hand at the bar when he first meets Uhura is pure Shatner.

I'm still tripped up by how much he looks like Jim Carey, and sometimes he's a bit on the goofy side for the part, but overall I'd agree. He's another version of Kirk and on his own merits he's not a bad one.

@@DarkElfofVulcan Keep in mind that he's portraying a younger Kirk than what we see on TOS and in the movies, so he has some time to...flesh out his character.

well just 33 years until ....kirks tragic demise.

Just decades. Stop romanticizing it.

It was perfect!

And come to define them both…

@@cosmeticscameo8277 And yet he turns up in the 25th century. I recall on ST-TNG someone asking if a person could return from the dead, and Troi said on this ship anything is possible. Paraphrasing😀

That and he also _doesn't. believe. in._ *_no. win. scenarios._*

“nostalgic”

I think we see shadows of what happened in the Prime timeline in the Kelvinverse. But the Kelvinverse Kirk was a little older when he headed off to the Academy versus his Prime counterpart. I kind of doubt Spock was there when Kirk pulled his stunt in the original timeline.

@@PeachWookiee I do remember reading the novelization for the 2009 movie, and I believe it was the elder Spock (the one from the Prime Timeline) who said that the crew coming together was the timeline trying to fix itself, so it only makes sense that there are similarities between the two timelines. The novelization also had Starfleet Academy forgiving Kirk for his cheating in the Kobayashi Maru test at the end of the book, awarding him a commendation for original thinking, just like in the Prime Timeline. That being said, there is a general rule of thumb in Star Trek that the only canon material is what is shown on TV and in the movies; novels, short stories, comic books, and video games are non-canon. Due to this, we wouldn't know for certain whether or not Kirk and Spock were at the Academy together, unless explicitly shown in a TV show or movie, so we can only speculate. It would be interesting, however, to see why Spock never took the Kobayashi Maru test if he was the one who designed the thing. You'd think he would have taken the test himself to work out any bugs in the system before releasing the final product. Plus, you would think that Starfleet would required him to take the test, since he was in the chain of command on the Enterprise (despite being in the Sciences division), and eventually became Captain of the Enterprise in The Wrath of Khan.

I think that was probably the wisdom of having him do the alternate timeline approach. They could only do it for so long but it was a way to get him into the character and see what worked and what didn’t. They knew they had to nail it with the first real appearance of Kirk and this helped them work up to that.

I LOVE Chris Pines Kirk. Shatner is OG GOATed similar to Keaton as Batman but Wesley is killin it. I was on the fence at first. I know it may sound judgmental (although when going through headshots casting directors do the same) but I don’t like his look for the character. Feel we need someone less lanky; shorter, stalkier perhaps and The blonde hair I think is a staple of the character. That said he is growing on me.

Also maybe because they were technically kissing

I agree. I love that Strange New Worlds seems to have a quiet throughline of the TOS cast meeting and of Kirk collecting his senior officers. With Scotty now introduced, I'd love to see more scenes like this as they all slowly meet.

They are literally kissing in this scene

Why is Uhura hideous in this series?

Hideous?? I completely disagree I think she nails the character nearly dead on, especially her musical abilities. She's a thousand times better than Zoe what's her name from the remake movies.

@@carter358 Uhura is supposed to be beautiful. Not chunky and flat nosed with a buzz cut.

Enterprise Captain in Waiting. I hope this series end in 5 years with Pike passing over Command of the Enterprise to Kirk.

@PaulEdmonds-dl2yj With Checkov Zulu Scotty Dr McKoy. Hopefully Sam can still be alive. I love to see the look on his face when his brother became Captain of the Enterprise.

He's getting there, but the writers aren't helping. The way they portray Sam here is out of character. Sam is supposed to be the slow and centered type not what happened here.

@@patrickradcliffe3837 What? He didn't have any lines before strange new worlds lmao

I LOVE Chris Pines Kirk. Shatner is OG GOATed similar to Keaton as Batman but Wesley is killin it. I was on the fence at first. I know it may sound judgmental (although when going through headshots casting directors do the same) but I don’t like his look for the character. Feel we need someone less lanky; shorter, stalkier perhaps and The blonde hair I think is a staple of the character. That said he is growing on me.

agreed

reminds me more of DS9 tbh

@@HammerJammer81 we all have our firsts I suppose. My first exposure to Trek was when TOS was in syndication in the 70s and this definitely have a 50s-60’s vibe to it.

Does anyone know what the song is? It sounds familiar, but I can't quite place it.

@@kwaktak mine was ToS as well, just reminds me of the holodeck scenes in Season 7 of DS9 with Vic.

We didn't need it

I did know we`ll get that scene at some point down the line

@@pderham26 Not true...how I would love to be a fly on the wall when my parents first met...how did they respond to each other. Were there immediate sparks...was my dad charming (not at all as I see him) and was my mom shy and reserved (not at all like she today). This fictional friendship is one for the ages. How wonderful it is to see it depicted, knowing what is to unfold. "Don't grieve, Admiral. It is logical. The needs of the many outweigh..." "I have been, and always shall be your friend."

@@victorpradha9946 Ah, no. Your parents are your parents, and curiosity there makes sense, but that doesn't keep you up. You don't need to see that. You'd like to as it is a real event and has personal significance to you. Without it having been written, Kirk and Spock's first meeting would not exist. Nor would it necessarily be anything special. I enjoyed this because it was fairly mild and subtle for such a thing. Seemed quiet and incidental. They just two officers who end up working well together and being friends.

I really wouldn’t be surprised if that’s something they do down the road. If this show does well and runs for enough seasons I don’t think they’ll just drop it when Pike steps down from command.

@@ZJBorg Except for "Where No Man Has Gone Before", nothing in S1 of TOS is set in the first year of their mission. The rest of the show happens some time later. So this show could give us that, and slip a remake of "Where No Man Has Gone Before" halfway through that season.

You are beyond cringe.

We also heard Scotty but never saw him. Wish for once they could get an actual Scotsman to play him for once.

They're gonna make sure the Menagerie will make no sense at all

Might not get to see if they only do 3 seasons. Ratings aren’t great.

@@carycimino7699 where are you getting that? Pretty sure Paramount+ doesn’t release ratings just like pretty much every other streaming platform. What we do know is that it’s critically acclaimed and now the flagship show for Paramount+

@@DocD173 you have independent rating systems like Neilson it’s very popular among fans myself included

I _can_ wait, but only because SNW is so friggin' awesome. I don't feel the need to rush into TOS: The Early Years.

I really like this version of Kirk, but I really don't need to see him or other TOS characters. I want to see more of the SNW main characters. I also want to see other Federation characters and Star Fleet officers.

Checkov would still be a cadet at this point.

@@TechPorkChop If there are parallels to the Kelvin-verse, Bones could still be married.

shouldnt jose tyler dr phil boyce yeoman colt garrison from the cage ep be in the show?

Most of the people i hung out with in junior high and high school i didn't get along with. I had one good friend but most of my long term friendships game from those I didn't get along with it wasn't until Sixth grade that we all became friends. and that was 24 years ago.

Meeting and having a nice talk marking the beginning of a legendary friendship? Bah! Too subtle! This is the modern day, there needs to be SHOUTING AND FIGHTS AND EXPLOSIONS

@@garethowen9219 you’re right it is missing shouting, explosions and fighting .

​@@garethowen9219Their meeting is nice and polite but this show is generally not at all subtle.

@@pderham26 Oh. Please. If that is the metric you're going by about great Trek then TOS was never subtle either. Care to complain about that? There are a lot of understated moments in this show but because there's a history behind this universe, every subtle moment gets laser focused by everyone.

@@eddiek8179 Are you off your meds? Jeez. "If you think this isn't subtle then uhhh TOS isn't either so why aren't you complaining about that?!" I don't hate the show, calm down. But the dialogue is often a bit much and the writers could stand to take it a little more seriously.

DONT TEST ME KIRK!

"I don't know. But I think I like him...!" -- Kelvin-Bones ;)

I think Pike said it was almost 10 years until his accident. Not sure exactly how far before that Kirk takes over but I think it will be a bit longer that 5 years from this point.

DECADES, my friend, decades. Several wonderful decades.

Decades!

Centuries...

The power of friendship that will saved UFP and the galaxy

“… of a friendship, that will define you both.” - Prime Spock, Star Trek 2009

Chekov is 10, and they can't all have served on the Enterprise this early.

mccoy is at starfleet medical scotty is engineer on a different ship. sulu would just barely be a 1 year out of the academy chekov is 15 so still high school. :D

@@cosmeticscameo8277 Yeah, i know, i just wonder if they will hint at them in future episodes.

You don't like whiny fanfic Spock?

What timeline are you from?

Let's realize that Spock isn't a cardboard cutout of the Spock we all got to know originally. It's a show, let's allow character growth and change because...why wouldn't they???

@@pderham26 Whiny? There are so many blinkered nostalgia driven fans. The original Spock even laughs in the early episodes of TOS. Stop with this whiny disingenuous rewrite of his character. Characters grow and evolve.

@@eddiek8179 Spock smiled in the Cage. They didn't know what they were doing writing-wise at that point. When else did he laugh without some serious influence in TOS? You're presuming this works and then thinking backward to justify it. We get it. You can't stand any criticism of this show.

Since it’s on deck 5 I’ve just been calling it 5 Forward.

Spock: It is illogical to care about size. However, I assure you that both my fiancée and girlfriend have been quite pleased.

​@@jkfeckeoh yeah, why don't you show me, Mr. Spock

@@jkfecke that's just gold

Remember this could be a alternate universe Trek....he might survive yet...lol Hopefully.

@@easyalpha1 They've already basically declared Timey Wimey on all Trek canon, and frankly that's smart because the 2060s are a lot closer than they used to be.

Just an old country doctor who hates transporters.

He said he likes it, him and Paul and pals.

@@Patricia7561 Do you have a link to the article where he expresses his approval?

@@nicholasmaude6906 it was on a video interview to william shaftner on youtubev ideo....let me see if I can find it again.....

@@nicholasmaude6906

the video is called William Shatner analizza il Kirk di Paul Wesley in Star Trek: Strange New Worlds | Comic Con 2022

I don't know about that. While it would be a nice memberberry, I think this way it underlines the absolute normality of the scene. There's nothing special about this meeting _except_ what will come from it. It's warm, and cozy, and beautiful because because it's understated. The future is quietly acknowledged, but the characters, and the audience, are allowed to just live in the moment.

Hopefully we get to meet Monty and Bones soon

Would be nice to see Bones and M'benga meet and Bones use his classic line...... I'm a doctor, not a....

They're doing a bang-up job of casting so far, the new Scotty is taking a little from Jimmy Doohan and a little from Simon Pegg, but he's making the character his own, same as Peck, Gooding, etc.

@@christopherrosas2738 OH MY GOD! Those two would absolutely clash! I've been wondering how M'benga goes from CMO of the Enterprise to a doctor on Bones' staff.

I would love to see the moment before Pike runs in to save them. I want to see Anson Mount play all those emotions across his face as he sacrifices himself for the cadets, the future of the Federation, and for Spock.

Straight in for a handshake. What a way to do it.

@@DarkElfofVulcan - Given how sensitive Vulcans are about their hands due to touch telepathy.

Uhura's face says it all

Omg I just saw the plate yeah 😂 I assumed they shared the cookie 🍪😂