Every maori is a victim. Whether they know it or not. I was like him, I thought Maori activists were all Extremists and radicals, UNTIL I took the step to start my own journey into Te Ao Maori, to learn Te Reo Maori, and to find out who I am and where I come from. Your views on small businesses and the economy don't make you who you are. Those are superficial opinions. What you have inside, your blood, your Mana, your spirit, make you who you are, and until you understand that, and I mean REALLY understand that, and you can not understand it until you allow yourself to fully understand where you came from, what those before you endured to allow you to be the man you are, and you can not allow yourself to do that until you open your mind to that journey. Until you do that, you absolutely ARE a victim, whether you agree with it or not, whether you like it or not. Because to understand your own history, is to understand the history of your people. And when you understand the history of your people, you will understand that you ARE a victim.

Hes so colonised with no knowledge of self he wouldnt even know it

@@Arms26 you talk too much

@@nzkid2599 Smh STFU White privilege.

Hasn't found himself yet, living his life to please others and how they want him to be, Very clever, intelligent and lovely guy,

It was actually the longest interview of the episode. Thanks for watching!

What country did you flee from John Van?

Think you have the wrong country in mind Mr Big😁

Fark off back to Europe