Sad times when not wanting children to be killed lables you as pro hamas.

Israel shot a missile into a school yard yesterday. It was a place Palestinians were told to evacuate too, by the IDF, because it was a safe zone. They were playing football in the schoolyard when the missile hit. I'll say it again, *they were playing football in the school yard.* Does any of that sound like Self defense to you??

I didn't vote Labour for the first time ever because of this and I even voted for Tony Blair. When Starmer, Trump, Biden, Netanyahu are all in agreement about foreign policy, something has gone badly wrong in the Labour party.

Jon Ashcroft being confronted in the street about his Gaza position isn't bullying. MP's hide from the public especially when they are on the wrong side of public opinion. It is so ungracious what he has been saying about the person who beat him and a slap for voters who voted for someone else

What Labour can do: a) Recognise the state of Palestine, and b) stop the sale of arms to Israel.

Nick Ferrari - incontrovertibly describes war crimes Sr Kier, former lawyer and head of the crown prosecution service - "I think Israel does have that right." What a joke

James, if Starmer is genuine in his call for a ceasefire and a two-state solution, he should immediately and unconditionally recognise the state of Palestine. Otherwise, anything he says is vapid.

Most Mps in parliament are "friends of Israel," and many accept donations from Israel. Check for yourself.

This is disgusting apologia for Labour and in particular Kier Starmer's positions throughout this genocidal war being waged against the Palestinians. Labour's position from the start should have been ceasefire, stop arms sales and security cooperation with Israel, including banning the use of UK military bases in aiding the US's support of Israel, sanctions on Israeli leaders as a bare minimum and finally the recognition of a Palestinian state without any preconditions.

No james, people used their vote to express their discontent with how labour handled the issue. They weren’t being peddled a falsehood

Ashworth just doesn't get it does he. He's not showing any care towards the people of Palestine. The dishonesty is shocking.

Can you believe he was a human rights lawyer??

What the British government can do is to issue an immediate ban on arm sales to Israel, and a ban on Britain facilitating arms sales to Israel in any way - as it is currently doing through allowing its airbase in Cyprus to be used as a staging post for the transfer for arms from the US to Israel.

Nobody can defend Israel's actions anymore.

James’ ridiculous soft spot for Starmer is on full display yet again. Whether you have power or not, you can at least take a position of principle. But shock, the leader of the opposition does have power..

I want him to recognise the state of Palestine.

It took about 5k deaths, the plurality of those women and children, for James to speak against the massacre. Yo to that point he found Isreals actions justified.

Be honest, its 186,000 are killed in Gaza by Israel

Just as a small point in a video I otherwise agree with: 'Women and Children' I think is drastically unfair to the thousands of equally innocent men (and other genders technically) who've also been frankly murdered.

Our policy should be fairly simple: No weapon sales to Israel; A commitment to uphold international law; Commitment to the two-state solution; Sanctions against Israel as a state, and the settler and militia groups, as well as individual politicians; Condemnation of Israel for its violations of international humanitarian law. If Israel at some point makes a real effort to become a civilised country we can re-appraise our attitude towards it. But not before that. The subjugation of the Palestinian people, the land thefts, the de facto apartheid, the routine collective punishment, the extrajudicial killings, the illegal detentions, the almost endless list of violations of international law. We can no longer shrug these off because we've decided that it's immune from criticism. The problem is that we prove our enemies right when they accuse us of hypocrisy, of weaponising international law against our opponents and refusing to apply it to our allies or to ourselves. And we are living in a world where power is moving away from us, from that post-war settlement. We should be fighting harder than ever for a rules-based order, because for all its faults and the need for reforms, we are going to need it. But in the meantime, perhaps we could behave with just enough basic morality that we can look ourselves in the mirror.

0:55 Sometimes the unfounded accusations of antisemitism gets you kicked out of the labour party.

"Deeply unfortunate" is a pathetic way to describe Starmer saying Israel has the right to cut off water and electricity. Starmer knew exactly what he was saying and said what he meant. That he tried a u-turn reflects the sentiment his comments received, not him realising he was wrong or had misspoken. You talk about the footballification of politics but you're here giving Starmer grace that you'd never have given a Tory leader. You do it whenever Starmer lies.

Jonathan Ashworth has no shame, even now.

I would like british policy on Gaza to be more like the Irish, Spanish, french and Norwegian than it is the Americans.

He hijacked the SNP parliamentary day to water down the motion that was to be presented. He obviously was not impotent in the shadow role. You can't overlook that as Starmer being unable to affect the situation as he clearly did.

0:48 "the accusations of anti-Semitism are designed to stop us talking about it and the accusations of having the blood of Palestinian children on our hands are not". Pointed contrast, all else aside.

Words matter. So the first & easiest thing for labour to do is speak with empathy and care when talking about Gaza just like they do when talking about Ukraine. After words, we need action for CHANGE as they like to say. 1. Reinstate funding for UNRWA 2. Stop arms sale to Israel 3. Support International court 4. Recognise state of Palestine Simple 🤷🏻‍♀️

Starmer was asked the SAME question regarding Russia and Putin. His hypocritical answer was COMPLETELY OPPOSITE !! 😢

1. Haifa Massacre 1937 2. Jerusalem Massacre 1937 3. Balad al-Sheikh Massacre 1939 4. Haifa Massacre 1939 5. Haifa Massacre 1947 6. Abbasiya Massacre 1947 7. Al-Khisas Massacre 1947 8. Bab al-Amud Massacre 1947 9. Jerusalem Massacre 1947 10. Sheikh Bureik Massacre 1947 11. Jaffa Massacre 1948 12. Deir Yassin Massacre 1948 13. Tantura Massacre 1948 14. Khan Yunis Massacre 1956 15. Jerusalem Massacre 1967 16. Bahro Al Baquar 1972 17. Sabra and Shatila Massacre 1982 18. Al Aqsa Mosque Massacre 1990 19. lbrahimi Mosque Massacre 1994 20. Jenin Refugee Camp April 2002 21. Gaza Massacre 2008-09 22. Gaza Massacre 2012 23. Gaza Massacre 2014 24. Gaza Massacre 2018-19 25. Gaza Massacre 2021 26. Gaza Massacre 2023 ongoing , They can NOT AND WILL NOT rewrite history, IT DID NOT start on OCT 7TH.

Regardless of where you stand on this i saw one of these alleged incidents that Jonathan ashworth claims was bullying, because he uploaded it and it simply wasnt bullying . It was a man trying to question him on gaza and mr ashworth did what labour mps consistently have done.....run away from the issue because they know that in the early days they let this esculate.

Wasnt JoB also claiming 'Israel had a right of defend itself' without any recourse to Int. Law ? He's still using the word "terrorist", which says a lot, given there is no crime of "terrorism" under Int. Law and neither do the UN call hoummous "terrorists". Anyone who knows the history of the region knows who the real "terrorists" are. JoB has had 9 months to do his research, which I suspect he has done....

In 2018 Israeli soldiers shot over 6,000 Palestinians. In many cases they were shot with illegal expanding ammunition. So, did the present iteration of this problem begin on 7th October 2023 (1,200 casualties) or March/Dec 2018 (6,000 casualties) But you will never have seen this in print media. But the United Nations reports on this atrocity are available for all to check and verify.

I have campaigned in Yardley, Ladywood, Hall Green and Moseley for independent candidates and have not seen any intimidation or bullying, but these individual MPs have lost supporters in the Muslim community and they cannot accept the losses of their core supporters and they continue to lose

1,87,000 Palestinians killed, according to Lancet. why dont you talk about that/???!!!!

“Core cause for Israel to defend itself “ Starmer. This reason has no value whatsoever because Israel has been taking Palestinian land since 1948. What about Palestinians rights? Vile vile vile

Why did he not allow his mps to vote for a ceasefire

I watched the video of Ashworth walking around canvassing. He was not getting intimidated only getting asked questions

Is he committed to getting rid of Netanyahu who is opposed to a two state solution?

Starmer must condemn Israel's actions (has he done this at all?) and push *firmly* for an immediate end to arms sales to Israel. He might also assertively access the legal advice received by the Conservative Party in government that the Labour party were asking the Tories to be share when Labour were in opposition, about whether Israel had committed war crimes. (Though, currently he is actually guilty of anti-Palestinian racism and should be suspended from the Labour party).

I couldnt vote for Starmer on the back of his Gaza statements and all the people he kicked out under the guise of anti semitism.

Asking an MP questions about how they voted isn't 'bullying'. Bullying also has a power dynamic, who was more powerful at the time, J Ashworth MP with his entourage or a member of the public asking him some firm but polite questions?

I like how they constantly say he didn’t say this when there’s clear footage of him saying it.

Netanyahu is the man that pretends to negotiating the division of a Pizza while he keeps eating it. - Avi Shlaim.

He doesn't know that starving millions isn't acceptable... 😅

Ref his interview. It's sour grapes there was no bullying he was openly being questioned in the street he wouldn't answer. No bullying.

Just imagine if he said he supported Palastinians. The press needs to take a long hard look at themselves.

Ashworth crying is glorious..hes done enough bullying of his own

Intimidation is apparently going out on the road and questioning your MP on why he did what he did? Victim mentality at best.

I would also say if there is nothing you can do for the Palestinians your view is meaningless and doesn't count for anything Remember Jon Ashcroft didn't vote in the first ceasefire vote in parliament while saying he supported Israel. It isn't wrong to say if you support Israel then you are contributing to the issue so yes you have blood on your hands

Lancet medical journal estimate it’s actually 186,000

Also, your centrist dad poopooing anyone with an actual opinion is hilarious, no it isnt self righteous, its called morality, if your morals dont align thats fine, but people have strong stances, this is simply a coping mechanism because these people saw through it and you only came to a realisation of the barbarity of it at a later date when so much blood was shed. Also calling them simply pro palestinian candidates is abysmal, they also ran on a leftist ticket so they aligned more with the people voted for them. Simply areas where labour couldnt supress peoples desire to vote and those people a tually elected someone that represents them.

James you miss the point. Labours policy on recognising a Palistinian state is contingent upon Israel's agreement. An agreement they have refused for 76 years and will always do so. In other words a nothing policy. 145 countries a majority have already done so. Meanwhile in 2024 a record amount of land in West Bank in 30 years has been turned over to settlers.

Now that Labour are in power they can make a difference if they want to.

Starmer lost the moral high ground. Justifying his lack of leadership by blindly following our vassal state position.

Can you do a show on Where labours cabinets ministers have got their funding from

ashworth lost his seat because he couldn't do what his constituents wanted him to and that was to condemn Netanyahu

Oh come on O'Brien the snivelling Ashworth could spoken out but he followed his cowardly leaders line of being scared to be called ant-semitic, if you cannot carry out action to change anything then speak out against it thus the deafening silence from all the political parties

Starmer's support of a ceasefire is heavily qualified. Why didn't James point that out.

Did I just hear James O'Brien equate people who accused Jonathan Ashcroft of having blood on his hands with people who said 'there's no such thing as an innocent Palestinian?'

Need to stop funding all these wars

Definitely sounds like sour grapes to me Jonathan Ashworth. Couldn't stand his weasely words when he was in opposition and sad we still have to listen to his views now he's been ousted.

It shouldbe to stoparms to israel and recognise palestine as a country

Sanctions! Sanctions! Sanctions!

Starmer was funded in his leadership campaign by Israel. Therefore he needs to feed back to his handler that they have miscalculated. I don't understand why this is hard.

Agree to immediate ceasefire And withdraw from all settlements on the West bank. Or immediately cease weapon sales, even if it is just point five percent. period

The culture secretary lost to the green candidate and Johnny crybaby was quick to distance himself from her.

UK Gov should announce 1. Immediate recognition of a Palestinian state. 2. The Ending of the legal games at the ICC, (UK gov is claiming that ICC does not have Juristiction in a legal intervention) 3. Ban the sale of arms to Israel and the facilitation of such sales and supply 4. The recogniton that under international law, those subject to illegal occupation (Palestinians) by a foreign power (Israel) have the right to use all means within international law to fight for their liberation including the use of force and armed resistance.

He say they could do nothing but the anger at these people is from when the ceasefire vote happened and voted against it

A former Labour MP saying someone should be held down and made to give straight answers to questions...the mind boggles 🤣🤣🤣

Supporting the two state solution is pointless without recognition of the state of palestine. Because Israel will never voluntarily do the same.

But I thought the adults were back in charge 😂

If the UK is unable to influence Israel and Netanyahu then wow, it standing in the world is truly diminished

James, The Lancet reported that the number killed is likely to exceed 186000 by Oct 2024

Ah James 😢 I'm so glad you're on the right side of history on this one - but please stop defending Starmer

Who thinks James roughly knew the backstory and systematic oppression priot to Oct 7, and played it quite well increasing criticism and exposing truth in increments to avoid the lobby coming after him? Don't get me wrong he's probably only touched on 1% of the reality of the Palestinians situation, but that 1% is more than all the others.....stopped listening to Shelaugh long ago but wouldn't be surprised if she's still doing her best to justify IDF behaviour... See, I think Shelaugh and Nick are genuinely naive mixed with unexamined racism they just don't see. Same with Piers Morgan who has been in a "moral quandry" for 6 months about how many children have died......

Standard response Keir Starmer feigns concern for Palestinians, while totally defending Israel's Warcrimes.

He can immediately stop arms sales to Israel.

Labour was going to have massive majority in my area anyway so I voted green. Hopefully next time I'll be voting for Green (or better yet - a socialist Indy) to win.

Keir Starmer put land and country above citizens. Until he apologises for doing that, people will understandably not forgive him. And whilst he is the leader of the party, they will continue to haemorrhage votes to other candidates

What else can Kier Starmer's Labour do? They could withdraw or at least reduce the sales of arms to Israel, that would put pressure on the country to agree to the ceasefire.

I wanted Labour to act from moral strength in December, not from political expediency in July.

Labour policy should be to call out violations to human rights and international law. Simple as that. Israel has the RIGHT to defend itself - within limitations. Imagine this very thing. A victim of years of bullying, mental and physical torture - one day fighting back. We will ALL say .. "this is RIGHT and this is JUST!" If that victim imprisons the former perpetrator, tortures him and torments him ... we might start to doubt. But some will still say "this is JUSTICE!" If that victim keeps the former perpetrator locked away and keeps tormenting him for years, keeping him alive just to cause more pain - in a sadistic manner ... do we still say "this is right!" ? .. Justice is nuanced. An eye for an eye is not justice - it is payback. Defending oneself is a RIGHT ... but not a "get out of jail" card for everything. Also - if Israel was SMART .. they would ask themselves "Hamas MUST have anticipated our response ... why is that?! ... why are we playing right into their cards?" edit: and here is a response Hamas would most certainly HATED ... ... if Israel, because of the events of octobre last year .. had initiated talks about a souvereign 2 state solution. Because THAT would have been the utmost END of Hamas as a ruling body in the Gaza region.

Did Ashworth provide any evidence of what he was alleging? I saw the video of him allegedly being bullied, chased and filmed in the street and he's making that one up. Not just the Tories gaslighting then...

Ashworth sounds like a sore loser 😂

Water is a human right & kills in 3-4faysc

What Labour didn't say and still haven't is that the UK should stop sending arms to Israel. This the Labour Government can now do,

Sorry James but you're weak on this. As others here have said, stop arming the genocidists and recognise the state of Palestine.

10000 dead innocent civilians was okay, but not 40000? Even though we all know the actual figure is far larger.

Starmer is stuck in a political mess over Israel/Palestine. It’s a case of “respecting” Israel’s right to defend itself and the impossible defend cutting off water, power, medicines and food supplies. When is enough, enough? We have to ask, why won’t Netanyahu let independent journalists or aid workers report on what is going on in the areas they’ve been attacking. You can ask the question, why are they still bombing when they could now go in on foot?

James _Waffling_ O'brien. Why do you keep spouting that whatever Kier or Sunak say wouldn't make a difference to Netanyahu.. This is not true even in the slightest. A very ignorant comment to make.

I suspect sir Keir would not be ok with Scotland cutting water and gas to England. I suspect he would take urgent steps to prevent this, much like the steps taken against stop oil.

2 things I would like to see happen: - acknowledge that the targeting of schools or hospitals is a war crime and the action of terror groups, not legitimate armies of democratic countries. - stop all trade and intelligence sharing with any such body (with the exception of aid and disaster relief) Keep in mind, there is more than one "country" to which the above can easily apply.

That statement by or failure to answer the question properly by Starmer,cost many MPs like Ashworth their jobs

It's been obscene since The Nakba.

“Israel has the right” to cut off food, water and electricity to two million people in Gaza. ~ Kier Starmer, October 11, 2023

I'm glad you have finally identified the IDF's role in these atrocities. To date only the goverment has been blamed. Most armed forces are trained in their legal responsibilities, where armed force is concerned. Their commanders should be under the same legal scrutiny as some of their politicians.

"Lives are saved by us having dialogue", says the man who asked how much is too much.

James, you absolutely hit the nail on the head (and so eloquently) as you often do, when you point out why it is essential that, even people with seemingly completely incompatible views must commit to and try their best to sit down and hold a proper conversation - the fundamental requirements of which involve both listening and maintaining a standard of respectable behaviour - before either party involved, or anyone who holds any interest in the outcome, can see any glimmer of hope that a solution can be reached. Shouting at one another, or worse still making vitriolic, wholly unsubstantiated and unnecessary accusations against a person with whom you disagree has never, and will never achieve anything productive - unless you simply want to vent your anger and prolong a problem which urgently needs a solution. As a Labour supporter who held their head in their hands whilst, at the time, in opposition Labour seemed to stumble from one blunder to the next, trying to (a) prevent a return to accusations (however unfounded) that criticising the actions of an Israeli Government is some non-sensical form of anti-semitism, and (b) avoid taking a meaningful stance on what was happening in Gaza in case it might jeopardise their chances of victory. But you’re 100% right - this clearly cost them in terms of both seats lost and contributed to the very poor turn out and overall voting number for Labour (as much as a rejection of and disgust with Tory politics), and now they are no longer ‘impotent’. Aside from demanding a cease fire and a fair deal in any settlement for the Palestinians, what Labour can now do (which they couldn’t before) is to immediately withhold the sale of any further British supplied weapons to Israel, unless and until Israel demonstrably commit to (a) cooperating fully and transparently in all investigations and action concerning perpetration of war crimes, and (b) they comply with international calls for a ceasefire and demands for the immediate cessation of all military action that is being prosecuted without regard for or complete and unequivocal compliance with international law requiring due regard for the consequences of its actions on the lives of innocent civilians. My hope is that within Israel itself, the people of Israel, who see the madness of what is being done ‘in their name’, will bring down the Netanyahu Government and those overzealous supporters who have cynically and tragically exploited the horrific, unspeakable crimes of a relatively small number of Hamas terrorists. Using that to jutify the prosecution of military action against the entire people of Palestine in such a way that ‘defence’ ceased to be a remotely appropriate term for the horrendous way they went about it; sadly I feel in many instances, done quite deliberately and very probably to prevent the Palestinians from ever occupying Gaza again, to try to avoid any practical possibility ‘2 state’ solution at all, and to displace and then prevent the return of the Palestinians from land which has deliberately and systematically made uninhabitable.

Extremely important bit. In the US, major news companies have been prohibited by Israel from talking about the IDF's own estimate of 20,000 and at most 30,000 opponents.

It was obvious within a short period of time that Israel was going to overreact and that the Palestinian population was going to be targeted. I saw 50 years ago how the basically European and American Israeli people looked down on the Palestinian/idigenous population.