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30 Years Ago: My Take on the Dead Sea Scrolls in 1992

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James Tabor

James Tabor

Күн бұрын

Talk about a "Blast from the Past" ...I recently found this 30 year old VHS tape of a lecture that I gave in August, 1992 at Reunion Institute when the newly released Dead Sea Scrolls were just coming out. In this lecture I offer an overview of how these scrolls--which make up 30% of the whole-- came to be released and an analysis of several of the main scrolls that I was involved in first evaluating and publishing.
Most of the positions I offer here I would still hold, though I have learned a bit in three decades! In a future presentation I will talk about how my mind has changed and stayed the same regarding my understanding of the Dead Sea Scrolls!

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@jknick04
@jknick04 Жыл бұрын
Bookmarking to finish later
@jennifferjude3156
@jennifferjude3156 Жыл бұрын
Omg you look so young! Thank you Professor Tabor
@sebolddaniel
@sebolddaniel Жыл бұрын
Oh, that's James! He looks like he could walk on water.
@kosmicwizard
@kosmicwizard 5 ай бұрын
The brother of Jesus
@joshburgess1495
@joshburgess1495 Жыл бұрын
I am so happy this came back 😂
@JukeBoxDestroyer
@JukeBoxDestroyer 9 ай бұрын
i was a senior in high school when this was recorded, i lived in a small town on the east side of Houston,about 45 minutes from this event, if i heard right that this took place in Houston.
@nobodyhere9258
@nobodyhere9258 Жыл бұрын
This is 30 yrs ago, I am wondering what you think now
@kosmicwizard
@kosmicwizard 5 ай бұрын
Extremely interested
@matamorosz
@matamorosz Жыл бұрын
Thank you sir
@jeremikenagy5365
@jeremikenagy5365 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for an honest lifetime of hard work into truthful Christianity. God bless, I prayed for God to lead me to truth...and I found you good sir.
@kosmicwizard
@kosmicwizard 5 ай бұрын
Take the online Mark course!
@guyandabible
@guyandabible 8 ай бұрын
Excellent, excellent presentation.
@11kravitzn
@11kravitzn Жыл бұрын
"He will see" vs. "He will see light". Do the dead see? Do the living see anything other than light? If he sees, he must see light, and if he sees, he must be alive. Supplying "light" just makes the point clearer, but doesn't change it.
@dreznik
@dreznik Жыл бұрын
also: Temple was destroyed a few decades after Jesus' death. Israel has not been in-gathered. This contradicts Isaiah.
@ryandavis394
@ryandavis394 Жыл бұрын
The light pure light energy ✨️ Unconditional love of a mother's love Birth...Death is unconsciousness Darkness... Where there is a Beginning (Birth) there is a End (Death) Unconditional love of Yahwehs love that gave us life in SPIRT our Spirt in enternal not our Boddies/Vessels..
@jonathanbarnes3061
@jonathanbarnes3061 Жыл бұрын
Yeah love the analogy light doesn't negotiate with darkness it banishes it.
@patriciaoudart1508
@patriciaoudart1508 11 ай бұрын
🙏💚🧡 found at göbekli Tepe 11.500 BT plate with thirteen holes for thirteen vertical wood needles, and Jade or mineral colored rings, so evey monts to twelve and then decide if this goes directly to one or add the thirteen as leaves are not yet falling as there were different colors to the rings, this would allow to keep, some marks, as sixt one for spring, or Sun maximum, or any event ruling the community., This for few years in one second.
@dreznik
@dreznik Жыл бұрын
The original Septuagint (LXX), with 72 translators, focused on the five book of Moses.
@thomasfarrow7053
@thomasfarrow7053 Жыл бұрын
I read that the Septuagint has by one count, over 50 books. The books of the Hebrew canon are in three groups: the Torah (Law), the Neviʾim (Prophets), and the Ketuvim (Writings). The Septuagint has the same books divided in four: Law, history, poetry, and prophets, but includes the books of the Apocrypha.
@KendraAndTheLaw
@KendraAndTheLaw Жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed this
@user-js9vg9kr1y
@user-js9vg9kr1y 8 ай бұрын
at there by any chance that the dead sea scrolls, hidden? if so, why? salaam
@integrationalpolytheism
@integrationalpolytheism Жыл бұрын
Really interesting stuff.
@user-eq4qd8sx5l
@user-eq4qd8sx5l 9 ай бұрын
Who is that guy?
@longcastle4863
@longcastle4863 4 ай бұрын
Funny that the Essenes are never described in the Gospels confronting or questioning Jesus. They surely must have been aware of him
@barnsweb52
@barnsweb52 13 күн бұрын
Tabor is telling on himself and others in making the distinction of "technical" versus "public". Notice that Tabor doesn't even mention the findings of Eisenman that Paul was a Herodian, not a Jew, and a known liar - not an apostle. I guess the "public" doesn't deserve to know that.... Bible publishers might be offended?
@barnsweb52
@barnsweb52 13 күн бұрын
We know much more now. All should read "The Origins of Judaism". *444 BC, Nehemiah 10. This is when they started inventing the "Torah" and rituals of Judaism. It was not so from the beginning. "Romans Proves Paul Lied"
@jdaze1
@jdaze1 Жыл бұрын
We are a kingly priesthood. And the messiah means "The Annointed" not The Annointed One. And God God said he would send "saviours" in Nehemiah and Obadiah. All the elect or firstfruits of the spirit are his annointed. It wasn't just one man. As noted in Rev. 3:9, Rev. 3:21, Rev. 21:7, and also in the epistles. The anointed will sit on 12 thrones judging the nations. John was the first of many anointed by God. We should never idolize a man as God. The father alone is God.
@craigrobbins3540
@craigrobbins3540 Жыл бұрын
Nice hair .
@malreid749
@malreid749 Жыл бұрын
It sounds like you have only read "about 30 pages" of Barbara Thiering's works which are huge. In my opinion, she got it right, so please show some respect.
@eddiej9733
@eddiej9733 Жыл бұрын
Your very much in the minority. Her works popular appeal created a monster that eventually destroyed her legitimacy. Unfortunately given the lurid extents of her extrapolations, she is more akin with Dan Brown, sadly. It’s really intoxicating coming up with a new theory of interpreting something popular. By the time your a best seller and being feted by all and sundry, it’s too late. You’ve swallowed your own errors.
@patricktilton5377
@patricktilton5377 6 ай бұрын
What he said was that the first 30 pages of her book sounded all right, but then everything AFTER that went off the rails, with all sorts of speculations presented as facts. I have all her books, and I once thought there MIGHT be something to her interpretation(s) -- i.e. that John the Baptist was the Teacher of Righteousness and that Jesus was the Wicked Priest (wicked, in Thiering's view, because he was claiming to be a priest despite not being of the appropriate bloodline) -- an interpretation which, of course, differs from that of Eisenman, who interprets James the Just as the Teacher of Righteousness and Paul as the 'Liar' (etc.) . . . but, in the end, I have to agree with Tabor that her highly speculative interpretation, as intricate as it is and as fervently put forward as she presents it, just cannot be right. Nevertheless, her interpretation of the different spellings of 'Jerusalem' in the NT Greek -- with one spelling referring to the actual city of Jerusalem but the other spelling being the Qumran community's way of referring to the site of Qumran as an alternative 'Jerusalem' -- THAT seemed to me to be an interesting notion that just MIGHT be on-the-money. Why have 2 ways of spelling 'Jerusalem' in the Greek, if not to differentiate between the real (i.e. illegitimate) and the alternate (i.e. the 'wilderness' location where the 'correct' calendar is in use, etc.)? She made a good case that travel times to Jerusalem-as-Qumran make more sense than to the actual Jerusalem, in certain specific passages in the Gospels. It's too bad that we never got to see a spirited if respectful debate between Thiering and Eisenman or Tabor, or even to have her be interviewed on MythVision by Derek Lambert, or one of the other podcasts devoted to Bible-related discussion. Alas, she died in 2015, a bit too early to appear on these more recent KZfaq channels. As for myself, when I discovered Joseph Atwill's book CAESAR'S MESSIAH, that was when I finally became convinced that she was wrong about Jesus. Atwill proved, to my satisfaction, that Jesus was a fictional character modeled on Titus in WAR OF THE JEWS, his supposed career back-dated 40 years so as to allow him (as a pseudohistorical 'prophet') to accurately predict the 'future' destruction of Jerusalem by the 'Son of man', who would HAVE to have been Titus, since he alone fulfilled those predictions. Thiering died a decade after CAESAR'S MESSIAH was first published, and I wonder if she ever read it. One would think that she would have been aware of it, at some point, and made SOME comment on his thesis, but as far as I've been able to see she never mentions it.
@kosmicwizard
@kosmicwizard 5 ай бұрын
​@patricktilton5377 Great comment! I also think that she was right regarding the alternate spelling of the true Jerusalem in the desert. The Qumran community also spelled Adama instead of Adam to differentiate themselves from the pretender priests at the temple. Damascus, Egypt and Babylon are often used symbolically to denote the profane world. BTW, I think Eisenman is right, he systematically backs up his claims with well documented research. His book James the Brother of Jesus is unreal. And as hard as it is for me to accept, Christianity (with its eating of flesh and drinking of blood) is a sick parody at best, definitely a perversion regardless and a blasphemy at worst, of Ebionite or Nazorean practices.
@busterbiloxi3833
@busterbiloxi3833 Жыл бұрын
He died his hair black!
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