Excuse but I’m not from Ireland, but why is the police so mean?

I'm pretty sure this was engineered to break the spirit of the human. If you look closely, this badge heavy attitude the academy promotes has only fueled the absolute knowledge that ALL police, everywhere, are agents of the state. Your governments need poor, angry masses. All governments. No exceptions. But don't worry, you have access to drugs and alcohol for your coping skills.

​@@jolina298 The Troubles involved the IRA and The British Army. It lasted from the 60s to the late 90s. Many people lost their lives and people/children witnessed a lot of it. There's many articles and pages about it online, search for "Northern Ireland conflict" and it'll all be there, as its far too much information for me to convey in a KZfaq comment.

Like many othet placrs in the world.

Were*

Ironic that the same criminologist that worked with the IRA, worked with Mandela. Friends of mine, I lived with that family in ‘85 outside Durban.

The troubles happened across NI, not just Derry :)

​@CaitlynDarragh-ps9rm still unsafe about Derry now though. Children still brought up to hate each other in Derry. They never stopped fighting.

@@irishcountrygirl78same in Belfast peace walls still have to be used bec if the violence

Because the English are responsible that's why. They would have to hold their hands up and say we did X y and z and we knew and we lied and hid information and many many innocent people died because of it

Being around the English makes your skin crawl huh

I'm curious by what you mean? What was different in London that made you think this way? Also, many English children now adults were raised being afraid of the Irish. It sadly negatively impacted children on both sides.

Same i am truly curious.

@@MsBhappy Only the ones in bitter communities the rest of us dont really give a toss about what religion you are we work together but the cities and bogger towns are always crying about the troubles

London Derry to london

I don't really know what the story is about, but in past certain communities in Ireland people would look down on beautiful looking young women like this young woman and call them names. Their families would but them into these laundry houses run by the Catholic Church and they'd be shut away from the world for years just because they're beautiful looking😢! 🙏🙏🙏

wtf does that have to do w her story

Beautiful eyes all over Ireland

​@@priusdriver596exactly

Yes that's the main takeaway from this story

As a Welshman who lived in Northern Ireland/ north of Ireland, I hope it continues and our friendship across the sea grows stronger, what a beautiful paragraph mate hope you’re well and have a good Xmas across the pond

Lovely story ❤

​@@simonlhill-si4sxAnd to you as well. Wales is a beautiful place.

​@@PJ-vc5qiThank you. May the peace grow.

@@antman8887 thank you mate all the best

@msmissy6888you’re so sad

Too true. English colonialism has been a blight on the world

@@exsilencio exactly!

​@@exsilencioIreland had more trauma than war the catholic church and locking women in work houses who were often raped by a family member and pregnant not mentioning the horrors of the children homes til the 90s. England' did wrong but so have many empire and we are sick of the constant shaming. We have a corrupt bad parliment we have a class system and imperlism that needs to go but stop attacking the country and people we had our own issues and have mass poverty. Sick of this colonising shit while you ignore the current global manopolising capitalism threatening everyone

#freehongkong…some of us haven’t forgot. Justice will one day be served.

God bless

Happens down south aswel trust me

but you must remember, these are Irish people first. Few white people understand this pain and for some dumb reason, most of the poor underpriveledged white people who hate cops are conservatives who wouldn't lift a finger for a Black man and scream white lives matter while their downtrodden communities recieve the same treatment from the same corrupt government. Their racism and sheer stupidity keeps them this way. This is why the Irish(ireland) are kindred spirits with disenfranchised people across the world unlike most American Irish who forsake their history, trauma, struggles, and perserverence to become slave catchers and police in poor Irish communities shitting on their own people in boston and New york.

This is where the stereotype is so harmful. People call the Irish drinkers, yet forget they aren’t long since out of a serious domestic terrorism crisis and then a rush of British police “helping”. So many will suffer from PTSD and are receiving no help. If anyone else who had suffered so severely drank, they’d be seen as victims, the Irish are seen as drunkards. Which then carries the cycle on. They’re not willing to be perpetual victims, they’re Irish. 💚

* potato blight. Famine happened due to the blight and then further starvation due to the removal of other crops to England and restrictions placed on - for example ? Fishing. Land ownership as well only compounding problems further mate

​​@@kirstybrown1185there's a gene I believe lends us to alcoholism that little bit more... this is also evidenced in a lot of new world countries were first nation tribes fall foul to something very similar... But @#$& it !!!...most are jealous they get left by us under the table most of the time. 🤪

@@mickeypye2593 ok lol

not a potato famine, only Americans call it that. It was a Famine with a myriad of causes including poor governance by the british.

I was born in England, but my family come from Belfast. They left before I was born because my Catholic mother married my Protestant soldier father and it was felt this didn't do wonders for their life expectancy. They also received death threats and I believe my grandfather's car was bombed. He wasn't in it at the time fortunately. Even though I grew up away from all that, I still feel the pain of what happened. I feel the loss of what should have been my home. There's a separation from my culture. I have a very Irish name, which lead to bullying in school as I was different. But when I've been to Ireland, I've been too English. I'm caught between two worlds and I can never quite fit in with either. We are a refugee family. We left because we would otherwise have been killed. This trauma isn't recognised as such though.

This made me cry. My a few of my ancestors are Irish and came here to America because they were starving. Irelands people have suffered so much. 💔 My love to your family

Post war trauma.. it’s takes a long time to heal, generations and even though it’s nowhere near as bad as it was then we still see the lasting effects from it. I’m driving to Belfast from Dublin next week and even I’m weary of driving through certain areas with a republican Irish plate. The troubles weren’t as long a go as people think.

@@katfoster845 You’re in the catch 22 situation, it must have been very hard, it’s brings on generational problems too. I get what you are saying. There were a lot of other families that were in the same predicament. As result some families turning their backs on them etc. It’s really ridiculous at the end of the day, but so very serious for some back then. I have a friend who went through something similar. Catholic father, Protestant mother but this would have been the early 90s so it’s was obviously not as intense, but they had to move to Dublin and the mothers family felt shamed that their daughter had married a catholic. My own history is weird in that way also.. I think a few generations ago there was a big split because my surname would be deemed Protestant but all the clan to the south of the border are staunch Roman catholic, Leitrim, Fermanagh, Sligo area. I should really try look into it.

​​@@Vee92521my heritage is similar. My Irish heritage were Irish potato farmers who left Ireland because of famine too and moved to Birmingham, England, UK.

Thank you for this light

@@yehonathan You're very welcome. I wish you well x

Agreed

Thank you for the context!

And in Belfast, we were brought up with British Army terrorising us, just like the Isrealis in Gaza.

@@kevinsmith-je6ctAINT NO WAY TOU PULLED OUT THE “you want to chat”

what youer number

​@@HAPPYNESSUTheir everywhere!!

We do nothing but talk about it, I'm sick talking about it. Unfortunately the awful minority of the older generation messed up the rest of them and it's getting passed along

@@JayM-wg7dd who’s this we, you brit.

@@JayM-wg7ddthe Irish people will never forget. 900 years of history isn’t going to erase itself just because it’s inconvenient for certain people. If you don’t stand for something, you’ll fall for anything. The divide is ingrained in us not only from the older generations, our schools and community in general plays a massive part. In Derry you have the city side, then the waterside. The city side is predominantly catholic and the waterside is predominantly Protestant. We go to different schools and we have completely different upbringings. Admittedly it’s not as hostile as it was while I was growing up, but it doesn’t change how people feel. It’s a massive part of our history that won’t be forgotten or forgiven and it shouldn’t be either.

God bless you Maureen… I love the Irish people ❤

I hope you’re in therapy and healing yourself, generational trauma can really do something to a person.

you hot to❤

Try being black in a Muslim majority country. It’s hell.

Nowhere is safe because Islam you mean. What do you think about Sharia law?

Black American Muslims aren’t blowing themselves up brother.

Did your parents teach you the real history then or did you just learn from the English curriculum?

@@marieO07 of course they did, hence why I nearly crapped myself. Its one thing learning the history, but thankfully they didn't instil any hatred nor bias on the subject. I was allowed to learn and understand for myself instead of the indoctrination of others.

@@marieO07it’s not even in the English curriculum, I knew nothing of the troubles coming from the mainland until I met my boyfriend, born and bred in n.i.

The ira blew up places in England. The Irish not with the UK they were fighting each other catholic against protestant. They stopped fighting when the catholic church was done for extreme abuse of women and children so new generations were not as religious and we had boms from Isis so It stopped.

well said

Cousin's 😂 English people have more Irish dna than the majority of Yank, who are plastic paddies

The whole of Northern Ireland experience the pain and trauma…

Derry is a much better place to live in these days than it used to be. The police that she grew up with, the Royal Ulster Constabulary, has been replaced by Police Service Northern Ireland. It's not perfect, but it's definitely more reflective of an actual police force compared to the bandits that were the RUC. The cause of the fear might be somewhat relieved, but the trauma lingers in the people who remember them.

​@@gogovideo10iam gonna say something a little controversial. the standard of 'good serving officers' was better in the RUC than it is in today's PSNI. they are shite. Almost full stop. Granted the decent constables in the RUC would have been fewer and further between the well meaning but ultimately hopeless yokes they have now... The actual standard of policing is way down. Far too many promoted due to a shite degree and kicked with a particular foot ??? They sacrificed quality albeit with the best of intentions...

Catholic church wasnt

It’s easy to say from the outside it’s ridiculous and I’ve heard more bigotry from Scottish people than the English. Hundreds of people, mostly citizens, a lot of them kids were brutally slaughtered either intentionally or just brushed off as collateral. You never hear about why even though a good few counties in the South voted to stay in the UK, there are hardly any Protestants there now. They didn’t all just move, and they weren’t gently encouraged to leave. Non-COI congregations had been historically discriminated against in horrific ways, particularly the Catholics, and of course the Irish Kingdom never asked to be invaded by the English or colonised by you in the first place. You’re probably a lovely person, but you are being unbelievably awful here. You’re telling someone with a rotten wisdom tooth that they should just pull it out themselves and stop whining when they’re already in the dentist’s chair and you’re saying it in such a condescending way. Please stop. You don’t understand anything that happened or is going on. If you want to talk about it please go to NI, talk to people from all the communities, and don’t say anything, just listen. Then you will understand. Please do not watch any English or Irish documentaries, just listen to real NI voices in NI from ordinary people. Then you can go back home and tell people there what you heard, and stop the wave of Scottish bigotry and callousness against all NI people.

I’m not sure it is. There’s certainly generational trauma involved, but the Troubles only ended 25 or so years ago, and I remember local bomb scares up until about 14 years ago. Every single adult except the very youngest who grew up here had something to be deadly afraid of, on either side. Most people lost people and in horrific ways, and it is only just starting to become generational. That’s why you see kids joining paramilitaries. They never knew the Troubles, and now their parents are convincing them with their traumas that it’s the right thing to do, when actually it is extremely stupid and extremely bad.

This is deeper than regular generational trauma. In Ireland in recent history, you’ve had the IRA and British police taking over the local area and creating an unsafe environment for the locals, which further created more IRA attacks. Unless your older generations were in wartime, they didn’t experience what she’s referring to.

I couldn't believe how shocked my German cousins were about a bomb being ten miles from us. I think I kind of thought bombs and bomb scares were normal.

Same, a lot of our family friends died during the Troubles, but my dad rarely talks about it. I don’t think the peace process ever made up for all the hurt and evil that went on, however NI is honestly the best place to live on the island and the UK. Great schools, good jobs, relatively good healthcare, really beautiful place and a much lower cost of living. Most places are relatively segregated in terms of living and specifically Catholic schools, however in terms of community clubs, work, shopping, ect it’s not much more than anywhere else. It’s much more solid than Scotland, we’re nicer than England, (poor wales) and if you’re a fan of universal healthcare better off than the South.

They wouldn't be old. They'd be in their early 40s with teenagers of their own.

This is a Channel 4 documentary? 'The British' are not a monolith and this is a British documentary in the first place

@@jharbell4481yes it is a channel 4 show - I don’t know what you mean by British being a monolith. Their history and influence on others especially the Irish has been shameful without self awareness and reflection.

@@phylk4683 but Channel 4 is British? So, evidently, there is self-reflection and self-awareness?

Total BS, we played with them as kids.

It must get exhausting having to blame everything bad on someone else. How long do pity parties go on for?

@@wesbrit630 it isn't a pity party to feel sadness about something tragic that happened in your life. If I lost a loved one then no matter how many years pass I might still get emotional when I talk about it or remember it.

​@@wesbrit630oh wow, why are you saying nasty things? Seriously, talk about flipping something around. I wish you kindness in your soul

@@marieO07 Because everyday it seems we've to be ashamed of the past. We all want the best for our kids so move on. I appreciate your kind words hopefully more people learn to move on and come to the Lord. God Bless you and your family.

​@@wesbrit630 "Boo hoo, acknowledging the past is bad because it hurts my feelings"

Please don't take any offence to my comment but the irish has felt oppression from the British looooonnng before other cultures...like since the Romans invaded . Even they said they were "to unruly to be controlled " but they still tried and the only place they could take over was northan ireland (hence the troubles) so if anything the irish relate to yourselves...but yes I do get your point where as the good Friday agreement helped, other countries are not so lucky. British have learnt and evolved so there is little racism meaning judgment is based on attitude . Nowadays Only racism here is from the media or individual acts ..especially after Stephen Lawrence..but I am sorry for the fear people feel from those who are supposed to protect them but I have asked for help myself from authorise and it really depends on the person's personality than proffesionalsm regarding how much they help you. The mental health struggle here is the real target..if you come across as aggressive , your a threat. even though your just scared. Best advice don't classify yourself as a race but a person and if someone is not treating u like a person then they have something wrong x

Oh jeez, shut up!

@@mcod5 You're being completely dismissive. Saying 'no offence' does not remove the disrespect. I felt the same watching this video and came to the comments to see if anyone else did. You have the privilege of being able to ignore race, we don't. Stay in your lane and stop telling black people how to feel and silencing them when they express themselves. Try listening to understand rather than to respond. You sound extremely ignorant.

I was thinking the exact same! Glad you said it✊🏾

How the hell did that escalate. Yes other cultures have felt oppression and what is dismissive is the belief that only one section of people have been treated in such a manner. As the original poster stated its nice that a white person can relate...which is my point. It can happen to anyone and as for stay in my lane that is the sort of attitude that prevents people from trying to understand. How is that even helpful. I see people as people and judge by actions and attitude, as should everybody and if you are a PERSON being treated like shit from another person (no matter the reason) than that person is a shit person. And yes the irish have been oppressed long before other countries and aswel as Scotland so if anything they can relate to others just as much as you relate to them. Where is the issue of seeing your self a person who is being treated like crap.

Why blame the Queen? It's the political governments that are to blame. The monarch has no political clout, not allowed to be involved.

pretty sure he's calling the actress a "queen" as most people use that nowadays, just like how men call each other "kings"@@bernadettekavanagh9984

@@bernadettekavanagh9984i think they’re calling her a queen, not mentioning the actual queen

And Latinos and any minority who has been marginalized, oppressed, enslaved, harassed you name it.

No such thing as “Northern Irish”. We are Irish. “Northern Ireland” is a fascist brit creation to keep their settler community above us

Good book called War In An Irish Town elucidates on this -- there were strong links with the black Panthers and other black civil rights groups and the occupied irish

Lmao, no

​@@RufusUlrikOccupied Irish? The Irish were the ones trying to occupy us lol

I think this is why Irish people are more likely to sympathize with Black people and Palestinians

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We do too! 👊🏻 👊🏼👊🏽👊🏾🇲🇽🇺🇸

What are you talking about you nugget haha