In Italy they actually do that

Ye it should be like in rugby refs have microphones so you know what their saying

Can I just say as a referee football is significantly more subjective than rugby, so being conversations should not be public (during the game at least - after the game I mostly agree). As on interviews after the game, it would be a good idea if done well and respectfully, but could also go very pear shaped very quickly.

​@paradox697 Borrow something from American football then, where they discuss the decision quietly then announce what decision they've made and why to the stadium

They also do that in the Netherlands.

That's what I was thinking.

They had to just ask chatgpt :D

Yeah but why let context and reality get in the way of whining about something that has made the game better off overall.

This is what I thought also.

Or they spent 4 minutes arguing about who’s going to go into the locker rooms to call them back out😂

Going solely off of the first angle of the last decision, doesn't the player making an attempt on the ball from a *seemingly offside position automatically make him part of the play, meaning had he actually been offside and made the same attempt on the ball, it would have been the right call, contact or not? 1. Yes. I know the defender the officials missed kept him on, therefore it's an egregiously missed call. I understand that, and agree with that. 2. Just for clarification of my question, it's more so a hypothetical at this point, and making sure my understanding of offside isn't antiquated. A player making an attempt on the ball from an offside position still results in an offside decision, regardless of if they touch it or not, right?

@@lilroehler You are correct. As soon as there is an attempt to play the ball he is offside and the goal is ruled out. That interpretation is always applied. However, if there is no attempt to play the ball he could be obsrtucting players or vision of defenders which is open to more intepretation.

@Francis..... I was also thinking about the obstruction as well. But as he's not obstructing the keeper's vision, had he not made an attempt on the ball, he's really only obstructing a defender who has no chance to make the play defensively himself with his position, I didn't think obstruction could have been a deciding factor. The only part that bothered me about the guys breakdown was when he said something along the lines of "there was no cause of an offside call in the first place." Where he clearly forgot that making an attempt on the ball makes you part of the play, and if you start the play off in an offside position, the play is deemed offside. Again, for anyone else who wants to try and argue, still looking at it from a hypothetical situation where the defender the officials missed was not keeping the guy in an onside position. I agree it's a bad call, and the player in discussion was not, in fact, offside in the actual play we watched.

Actually, the referee called a late offside which VAR didn't hear. Assuming the goal was given, they confirmed what they thought was the referee's decision (VAR doesn't use direct communication, which meant that the referees couldn't hear each other). I mean, it's egregious, but it's just a communication error rather than bad refereeing.

More of a massive cock up than a decision though.

spurs fans have no right to talk about bad ref decisions

@@okok-ku9qy ah yes, the good old: "... fans are not allowed to have an opinion on a matter" shit gets very old and im not even a Spurs fan nor Premier League fan. like... if you asked me, no Fan of a club in the Prem League should have an opinion on anything tbh. tho they still have and are totally allowed to talk about anything, cause free speech yay.

maybe hes talking about that game @@okok-ku9qy

Liverpool fan here, I'd argue that a spurs fan Has every right to have an opinion on that goal. Their side won the match and they didn't cheat to have that goal disallowed. It wasnt their fault.

The fa rulesbook states that it's offside in the case of "clearly attempting to play a ball which is close when this action impacts on an opponent ", which is obviously the case since Bonucci's attempt impact not only the goalkeeper but the defenders as well. The decision was a mistake, but not because of Bonucci not touching the ball. And actually, it's quite hard to put it on the var as well. The image shown is taken from a video made from the stands, that's because there actually wasn't a camera available to VAR showing Salernitana's player (as stated by Italia Referee Association). Of the 15 cameras present at the Stadium only one actually showed Candreva's position, the "tactical camera"(added by the clubs to their stadium for tactical study purposes), but it's recording weren't shared with Var by the whoever was working on cameras at the Allianz Stadium. Basically: it was a pretty big fuck up, but not really made by VAR. Source: sport.sky.it/calcio/serie-a/2022/09/12/juve-salernitana-var-fuorigioco-gol

@@neez6097 Yeah I figured if they had an angle on it it would have been caught. Hopefully that's a mistake that only needs to happen once for VAR to have mandatory camera angles that cover all the pitch for offside situations like that.

I know it's technically against the rules, but I find it difficult to go along with rules in situations like these. If Bonucci interfered but didn't change the result of play, can you really disallow the goal? To me, it goes against the spirit of the game. Yes, there might have been a different reaction, but if in any realistic scenario the result does not change, is there really any justification to the rule?

I know it's technically against the rules, but I find it difficult to go along with rules in situations like these. If Bonucci interfered but didn't change the result of play, can you really disallow the goal? To me, it goes against the spirit of the game. Yes, there might have been a different reaction, but if in any realistic scenario the result does not change, is there really any justification to the rule?

I know it's technically against the rules, but I find it difficult to go along with rules in situations like these. If Bonucci interfered but didn't change the result of play, can you really disallow the goal? To me, it goes against the spirit of the game. Yes, there might have been a different reaction, but if in any realistic scenario the result does not change, is there really any justification to the rule?

You about to do the 1 2 3

@@guestdeluxe5674YOURE OUT

Finna give them the "You quit?" ong

ur not a refferee, ur a footlocker employee

looking like you're about to disallow a goal due to ropebreak

Awesome video 👍

I was at the Sydney FC vs Adelaide United game (going for Sydney FC) , at first glance it seemed to be a red card. After the first replay I was laughing in my seat. I couldn’t believe the decision, the game ended 2-2.

Newcastle 1-0 Arsenal: Ball out, Foul, Offside. At least one of them would rule the goal out. It should’ve been 0-0. there was a foul. That is objective. The ball went out. More of a subjective matter when it’s on the line. Offside. What offside? The offside that ruled out Son’s hat trick, EVERY SINGLE GOAL. Very subjective at times, but sometimes it is objective.

@@GMBlunderfish1 it was only foul

He wiped his feet in a counter attack. Ofc it is a yellow

@@r3x754 that was the other yellow The first one he didn’t even touch him

@@Das_me he definitely touched him on the first yellow. In some of the videos you can clearly see how Udogies trips himself because of Jota touching him. And even if that situation itself doesn't necessarily means a yellow (although you cant blame the ref for giving it because of the counter attack his foul disrupted), Jota should've been booked 10-15 mins earlier for a far worse situation. So that yellow card might as well have been for accumulation of fouls.

I can see it both ways. The keeper has every reason to expect that Bonucci might get to it, but he's wrong footed anyway and would never have made the save even if Bonucci wasn't there.

@@NataliePine that does not matter. As a ref we don't have to judge whether the GK would have made the save or not. In this case it is clear that the GK is at least influenced by Bonucci, which means Bonucci is interfering with play. Show this to 1000 professional referees and I'm convinced all 1000 will tell you this is interfering.

Yeah a GK could react differently even if it looked like he was never going to react, still interfering with play.

Yes but onside so the whole argument is mute

He was onside tho watch the full vid before commenting

It went downhill from his video. lol

Thank you, really glad you enjoyed❤️

no1 cares about fifa what a shit game

I was playing fifa 15 recently, and I tried doing a pass to a player that was extremely offside by mistake. An opposing player slightly nudged the ball, barely changed its direction, but the game decided that it was an opposition pass to my player up front, and I went there and scored 😂 funniest shit ever

@@ytaltacc8008 no way😂

Years ago I played a ball over the top and Kuyt was given offside even though he was in his own half.

So if there are no enemies in penalty box the defender can just pick the ball up with hands, because he's not impeding goal, sure

I mean we have shit refs every week

Those two incidents were insane.

Can't forget When their goal against Liverpool in the FA cup got ruled out for Offside. Literally the same situation as Juventus.

Which would be wrong

yeah but as a freiburg fan (the dudes in purple from the first clip) i gotta say its okay that it takes long, but why would you walk off the pitch while the var check. thats fkg nonsense

Terrible, nightmarishly dystopian idea. Would you like that for yourself or your loved ones. Sometimes I think there must be an ulterior agenda going on as how can so many obvious errors be occurring at this rate. Such as the furtherance of the aforementioned or perhaps something else.

​@@J3diMindTrix We have goal line technology, which has worked very well and the players already wear GPS transponders, in case you hadn't already noticed. So it wouldn't take much to use them to get fast and accurate offside decisions, which must be a nightmare for linesmen to get right.

​@@zig_ziggy I get your point but even with the wearing of gps transponders and VAR, incorrect decisions are still being made. I see nothing to justify how much it's ruined the game and the enjoyment it's taken out of people's lives; it was supposed to be for only the most egregious of errors and goal line tech but of course the authority in charge of it has sought to expand its powers, no surprise there. If it's obvious to everyone else in the ground within seconds why does it take the supposed 'professionals' for instance say around 5 minutes for them to conclude that, WITH the equipment at their disposal.. it's almost like something else is going on, something untoward, even suspect potentially ? Also football is something that is popular across the whole of society with staggeringly huge viewership and engagement so if there was anywhere for the deep state to trial yet another Orwellian surveillance technique it would be there. Kid : 'my hero (player x) has got a transponder! can I have one too?' Dad : ' course you can dear'. Would you want that?

6 minutes is WAY too long for var, even to look at all angles, and it’s a CLEAR handball, why more angles when it’s CLEAR, other angles will not change the space and time for it to magically become the head or the foot

6 minutes ???