I wonder if those girls are still sitting out there waiting for Charlie to get out today 2019.

Nothing Bugliosi ever said about the case came from anything other than what came out in and after the trial by those that were there.

Today is a better place since Charles died last night......

how long did they actually stay out there?? They said they would stay til he was out, but does anyone know how long it was that they remained?

Bugliosi challenged Manson to be cross examined ..and as expected the coward said no.

That is why you are under oath in court.

As far as the book is concerned there is not a single lie in it from Bugliosi..It is all public record and a telling of what came out in court and the trial itself.If there are any untruths in it he is not responsible for them.

Oh yeah and as for the suspected 35 other dead no-one is in prison for those crimes because of the lack of evidence,Thats why rumored and suspected are words always associated with it.The family said it not Bugliosi.

Good footage

It is all public record and can be researched by anyone that wants to take some time to do so.

I guess you all lied because you said you will stay there until he got out which NEVER happened......lol

She testified that Charlie told her and the other girls to "Go with Tex and do whatever he say's"

@hukablorp That is Nancy Laura Pittman, aka Brenda McCann. Charlie made her "chief assassin" of The Family.

That doesnt have a damn thing to do with what crime was commited.

You know what would be great, a nationally televised interview with Bobby Beausoleil , that would set alot of people straight. Wonder why they dont do that ... mmmmm

I was begining to think there was no inteligent life here...thanks.

One more thing..To say that Bugliosi committed perjury just goes to show me how naive you are..A lawyer during a trial is not sworn in as a witness and therefore cannot commit perjury..no matter even if they lie its not perjury..Research young man O.K.

It sicken's me to see people still wanting to follow this Freak Job.

People lie in court.

Testify means to speak the truth..not just in court,its part of the english language. You really should try harder to keep up with me if we are going to continue this debate.

No actually Charlie was sentenced to die.

the Vincent Bugliosi book bears little resemblance to the truth as I know it - Bobby Beausoleil

Gotta love how they preach area while smoking cigarettes. @_@

Now that being said,I never said it is 100%true..But if there are any untruths in it they are not from Bugliosi but the person that said it in court or in any other sworn testimony that it is taken from.

If you ever actually read the book,which i doubt,You would see it is 100% based on nothing more than sworn testimony and court documents and not a single word other than the narrative to make the story flow is Bugliosi's.

paul fitzgerald should have been on sesame street

That wasnt even a trial, it was half a trial. Still waiting for the other half damnit !

I wouldn't fall asleep after though.

she's the quintessential hippy.

What I meant in the last comment. Kasabian only knew what happened at the murder sites. She never said anything about Charlie telling people to kill. People who get convicted of conspiring to commit murder get less time than him anyway.

Dont get me wrong I know he is as guilty as the day is long ..I was just responding to some of these other Manson wannabe sicko's.

Paul Fitzgerald was nuttier than his client (Patricia Krenwinkel) if he thought they could've won the case outside of L. A. What could they've done, selected a jury from some Amish community in Pennslyvania? This case was sooo widely publicized, wasn't it?

He aint in there for commiting murder..and his case is unique.

Were staying here until charlie s out....... so now in 2011 they still sitting there on that side walk ???

You people apparently know nothing of the trial.Noone was disallowed to speak.They CHOSE not to put up a defense.

Yeah,blaming Manson,theres a suprise.Poor little leslie v,eh?She was over the age of legal(and moral)responsibility for what she did.Manson did'nt hold a gun to anyone's head,and he did'nt kill anyone.Funny how that is lost on you.Women are just as responsible for their own actions as men are.

They weren't even allowed to speak for Christs sakes,Charlie to be exact as well. You want to talk about evidence? Then don't listen to Bug.

How long did those girls actually end up sitting there?

Dude you are 17 yrs old..im sorry but you dont know what you are talking about...it Bugliosi never said charlie had mind power's...that is just absurd.

Update: They didn’t sit there until he got out.

@lianjie1963 Thanks-that was my guess, as well.

Which one of the Manson girls says "...a system where [a] man cannot defend himself-are you proud of it?" at 1:55?

Actually no Bugliosi said it. Second regardless if he uses "Rumored" or "Suspected"..he's still leaving the fear factor there that the family is bad. If the family said that...it would be a confession. They never did.

The house was not picked at random either..Charlie was the only one that knew where it was and who was supposed to be there.

they're kind of like the people who did zeitgist.

Sandy!!

How is he ignorant? He is stating facts.

No...half to most of what comes out of his mouth is bullshit. I know that because I caught his differences in many other interview's. One being how he wanted to do that case strictly for the money and fame.

That was supposed to be atwa.... Stupid auto correct... _

Age has nothing to do with it. You know nothing about the case then. It is a known fact that Charlie did not get a fair trial for that reason. To say otherwise is absurd.

To testify mean's to serve as evidence, or to give testimony, or to give evidence of. Where does it entail "Truth"?

No. Bugliosi said to the grand jury that Manson has mind power's and ordered them to leave do to a fear he was going to persuade the jury for his release. What prosecutor Vincent Bugliosi committed was perjury.=]

Secondly..you obviously know little or nothing about law..The lawyer is NOT under oath because he isnt giving testimony.All he is doing is presenting evidence and asking question's. Where I ask you is he even capable of lieing?????

You can join the military and be disillusioned and influenced into things-like killing innocent people! I've probably taken more acid than any three of these stupid mofo's and i've never had the need to kill to please anyone, but then i was never in a postion where i needed someone's approval so badly. This was mainly about one guy's huge ego stucture to cover previous pain, young people who needed approval, and a set of particular circumstances that eventually came unglued.

Haha @Poe397 Frogger is just some lonely kid who needs attention doesnt get enough from him parents everyone knows by now Manson is guilty deserves to be where he is or dead, this trial was all over the media still is today if manson didnt do anything wrong or unfair trial it would be known

Rip 🌈🌈 ♥️ Sharon Tate 💜💛 and the other beautiful young victim s of these murdering freaks they all deserve karma and to rot in jail 👮👩‍⚖️💯 💯

So basically im saying you can hate bugliosi all you want but he didnt do anything to deserve it..if you researched anything you would know that.

He is responsible for the untruths because he wrote the book. There are untruth's because it portray's Manson as an evil man, but he's not. It over indulged his character making him into something he's not.

Yeah you did say it was truth. Second don't blame any of the untruth's on what happened in court. The only untruth would be from Bugliosi.

The book is based little on truth. The four actually murderer's yes fact. Charlie the main "bad" guy..NO. There is no proof for Manson's incarceration.

You dont have to be in court to give testimony.Please if you are going to debate with me ...learn the language.

frogger some punk kid who probaly feels the need to go against authority

He made up the fact of Manson's "Mind power's".=]

"Testified by family member's"? I thought they couldn't go to testify. If you're talking about Kasabian..she only mentioned what happened at the murder's. The others took full blame fr the murder's.

Do some research and quit mimicking charlie and you will find out its all public record of what has been testified to by family members.

Im sorry but at your age I cannot take you seriously on much..but if you actually researched instead of just parroting charlie..the FACT of the trial is they gave no defense because..get ready for it...THEY HAD NO DEFENSE...you tell me how you are going to defend what they did hmmmmm

Bobby Beausoleil on Helter Skelter theory : "- I guess because I know the truth, to me that explanation seems ridiculously simplified. How can anybody not see through that? Murder by Beatles records-this is what happens if you listen to Beatles records and take LSD!? What could be a more blatant attempt to discredit the youth movement of the '60s than that? To use that theory as the basis of convicting these people stretches credibility to the breaking point

Again you are showing naivete...he didnt say they killed 35...THEY DID...

offense

And I have researched it, and Manson's name never comes up next to "Murderer". There is no evidence for Manson except speculation...and Bugliosi said that.=]

They always had charlies boy. At this point, he had spent nearly half his life in jail or prison

@thimoneus Hell No! Religions are THE weapons of mass destruction. Actually, I don't understand your 'Jesus' reference...Was Jesus a good hobo or a bad hobo?

Manson is innocent. It is wrong not to let anyone speak in front of the jury. That goes against their constitutional right's, and added onto that..what Bugliosi did was perjury. It was never proven that Charlie has "Mind power's"..and it was never mentioned before the trial. It was stated at the trial, and the jury followed the liar's word's.

People don't get life for conspiring to commit. People get less time.

Yeah but after you take LSD the first time common sense would tell you it wil have a serious effect on you if you take it alot, so any of them should have known on their own to not keep taking it or not take it so much. They cant blame Charlie that they decided to take LSD so much.

He capable of lying in the courtroom. He's capable of giving false evidence of someone's action's. Charlie did nothing wrong, yet he's convicted. He lied to get money, and it's a proven fact in "Manson v.s. Bugliosi"..."I saw the Manson case...and I saw dollar sign's". He wanted to do it for money, and should be convicted for the lies he committed in the courthouse. But we all know..justice in society doesn't exist, and people like to be scared.

@thimoneus LOL! WANNABE HOBO! (US GOOD HOBOS TAKE OFFENCE!):))