JAPAN-BUILT RAV4 vs NORTH AMERICAN-BUILT RAV4 - WHICH HAS BETTER QUALITY?

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Жыл бұрын

This is an important quality comparison video between two Toyota RAV4s - one built in Takaoka factory in Japan and another one built in Cambridge plant in Ontario, Canada. Automotive Engineer David Chao goes over all the details between the two, comparing the external body panels, paint, and interior fit and finish. Please note that this is an updated version of the previously published video, as people have asked for more of this type of videos.
Automotive Press is owned and managed by David Koichi Chao, a global expert in the field of automotive evaluation, consulting, and strategy. David is known around the world as an authentic specialist of Lean Thinking or Toyota Production System. Born and raised in Japan, David has an engineering degree from University of British Columbia and post-graduate education from MIT and Harvard Business School in Boston.

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@daved7024
@daved7024 Жыл бұрын
David, I worked with Japanese technicians for a year in the states. They were amongst the most serious professionals I've ever worked with very focused on quality.
@flyingman358
@flyingman358 Жыл бұрын
Nowadays Japanese only plays cartoon than focusing on quality
@Scream4Cheese
@Scream4Cheese Жыл бұрын
@@flyingman358plays cartoons? Lol. Your mean video games? So Americans don’t play video games?
@ruggedindsoup2135
@ruggedindsoup2135 Жыл бұрын
I was stationed in Japan for over 3 years in the late 90’s. I spent a lot of time experiencing their culture and learned about the pride they take in their work as well as their work ethic. After years of traveling the world, I don’t know that I’ve ever seen such a work ethic. It wouldn’t surprise me if cars made in Japan are a little better in attention to detail. Not saying those made outside of Japan aren’t great, but it’s hard to compete with a culture driven by job pride and perfection.
@flyingman358
@flyingman358 Жыл бұрын
@@ruggedindsoup2135 Japan made Toyota 2azfe engine is nightmare for the world
@slothypunk
@slothypunk Жыл бұрын
@@flyingman358 I bought Toyota Crown made in japan, way better built quality than north american Toyota, just saying. I also bought CRV Hybrid made in north america, let's just say north american can't even stitch seat cover right! Honda can literally outsource stitch covering to China and it looks better than North American made, and possibly cheaper since it is outsourced to China. I am displeased with N American's craftmanship, you are definitely not having your grandfather's quality of workmanship!
@ricardovaldez3439
@ricardovaldez3439 Жыл бұрын
I have worked for 23 years in the oldest Toyota manufacturing plant in North America . TABC (Toyota Auto Body California), and I can assure you. That regardless of where your Toyota is built. Our commitment to customer first and build into quality with ownership is what drives us. We build your vehicles with you our customers in mind. There is a reason we are number 1. It is thanks to the loyalty of all of you and the commitment of our company to train our team members to the best practices of workmanship.
@SilverScarletSpider
@SilverScarletSpider Жыл бұрын
This is why Toyota, Honda, Mazda, Lexus, and Acura are the best cars 👍 reliable, affordable, durable.
@longjonsilvernuts
@longjonsilvernuts Жыл бұрын
The sad part is since toyota has been implementing newer technology their reliability has dropped. According the studies, Mazda has taken over as number 1 in reliability. I hope they're wrong though. Only time will tell.
@SilverScarletSpider
@SilverScarletSpider Жыл бұрын
@@longjonsilvernuts So Anthony, there is some truth in what you’re saying because whilst Mazda is a bit behind in engine mpg tech compared to Honda’s new I4 engines and 10 speed automatic transmissions; Mazda’s leg up in reliability is due to their stalwart 6 speed auto that is admittedly less smooth, 10 years older, and gets worse mpg. Even the ever dependable Toyota Corolla actually had new CVT problems on their first year, which of course the Mazda3 didn’t have because they’ve been using the same 6speed auto for 7+ years. In the pursuit of higher mpg’s both Toyota and Honda have faltered a bit in no nonsense reliability.
@longjonsilvernuts
@longjonsilvernuts Жыл бұрын
@@SilverScarletSpider thank you for the clarification. I am not a Mazda supporter, especially when they had that Ford partnership in the early 2000s, but I was surprised when I heard that they are reigning supreme for reliability today in many rankings. Hopefully Toyota and Honda can recapture the top spots again! I love my Honda Element!
@WhittyPics
@WhittyPics Жыл бұрын
I have no doubt that a Japanese factory in North America is run a lot different than an American factory in America. That Japanese culture is brought over into factories in North America. Consumer reports compared the quality of an Accord made in Japan to one made in Ohio back in the 1980s when that factory first opened and they said the quality was just as good with an Ohio Accord as one made in Japan. Still, I think a Japanese car made by Japanese workers would have a slight edge over one made my American workers. It is just a different culture over there and the level of pride in their work is higher
@rightlanehog3151
@rightlanehog3151 Жыл бұрын
David, Toyota began building cars in North America in the 1980s. For decades the vast majority of Toyota vehicles sold in North America have been made in North America. The fact Toyota has managed to hold on to the top spot for reliability through the decades tells me all I need to know. 😁
@slothypunk
@slothypunk Жыл бұрын
TBH, the fact that Toyota and Honda is on the top spot is like an average chick among ugly chicks around. All other competitors really don't care about reliability much that it makes Toyota and Honda just do what they do and still beat reliability rating years over years!
@oscarishandsome5150
@oscarishandsome5150 Жыл бұрын
@@slothypunk you probably know Toyota for corolla camry etc only but they also produce shit where your top notch bitches can't even stand around
@ericolens3
@ericolens3 4 ай бұрын
​@slothypunk that hurts. but GMC makes nice LOOKING vehicles. Also, the features are nice too. ummmm, not sure about reliability because I prefer Japanese all the way. Nissan, Honda, Toyota, Mitsubishi
@TjBruce817
@TjBruce817 Жыл бұрын
Toyota has a pretty good record with quality control no matter where the vehicle is made. They determine the process and the way it is made to ensure it is as close as possible to the Japanese versions. It takes a person like you David with the knowledge and attention to the details to show us where the differences are. Like you said the average consumer would almost never know the difference. Thx for showing us how close they are getting over here and how much the Japanese auto workers still care about their work.
@Robert-un3cf
@Robert-un3cf Жыл бұрын
One of the main reason I prefer a Japan made car is that there are so many little parts you get that are also made in Japan and are consistently high quality. I'm sure there's not a huge difference in terms of fit and finish.
@alexxu3004
@alexxu3004 Жыл бұрын
idk about american made one but canadian made are junk
@cloudchaser9951
@cloudchaser9951 Жыл бұрын
mine is made in Canada. let see how it goes ehh
@IWannaBeFamous647
@IWannaBeFamous647 Жыл бұрын
I disagree. You must have not seen Pakistani made Toyota Corollas
@kapaul9922
@kapaul9922 Жыл бұрын
@@IWannaBeFamous647 why? Is it do good?
@terp8373
@terp8373 Жыл бұрын
I bought a 2022 Canadian built RAV4 about 7 months ago and have been wondering about this. Glad to hear there's very little quality difference between Japanese/North American vehicles. I've been really impressed with the fit and finish of my RAV4 as well as the solidity and refined feel (driveline, switchgear, etc.) of everything.
@jerryp2433
@jerryp2433 Жыл бұрын
Canadians are actually known to build good cars. Not like Mexico or the US. The legendary Windsor came from the Ontario Plant.
@pranaym3859
@pranaym3859 Жыл бұрын
@JERRY P Actually, in Canada I've seen them using rusted parts in the factory, and higher quality parts are sent to US
@jerryp2433
@jerryp2433 Жыл бұрын
@@pranaym3859 well I guess I was wrong. Just found out that the Chevy Equinox is also built in Canada. That thing is a POS. Lol
@j_freed
@j_freed Жыл бұрын
@@jerryp2433 for 20 years I had a 1996 Honda Accord / made in USA, a bulletproof car for the most part. Maybe that was the golden era of solid simple manufacturing!
@jerryp2433
@jerryp2433 Жыл бұрын
@@j_freed cars got heavier and engines got more powerful with less metal and transmissions became belt driven and more complex (smaller parts). Something is going to give. Lol.
@DanQuentinJames
@DanQuentinJames Жыл бұрын
After over 30 years of being a Toyota owner, observer and after detailed analysis, I also come up with same conclusion in that the Japan produced vehicles have high quality than the vehicles produced outside of Japan.
@ytj22
@ytj22 Жыл бұрын
Have you published the detailed analysis anywhere so it can be viewed? Would be very interested, thanks!
@carlosgilpinheiro7510
@carlosgilpinheiro7510 Жыл бұрын
Here in Europe Toyota is known to be good when the cars come from Japan with Japanese components, the models made in East Europe are equal or worst that European brands constructed in Germany, Belgium, Portugal, Spain, France or Italy. Quality control of parts is in average better but a car isn't only reliability, in other words a better suspension is also quality, a better design and style is also quality, a better interior coating is also quality. Resuming quality to a simple choose components that need less maintenance is good for people that want a car to go A to B a nothing more but there is markets that overvalue this and that's the main reason Toyota sell better than anyone in some planet regions. We all know that innovation and performance are risky moves but is that was give emotion to cars and that's the main reason why European cars are more emotional and appreciated to petrolheads.
@DanQuentinJames
@DanQuentinJames Жыл бұрын
@carlosgilpinheiro7510 very true analysis...
@Ketoswammy
@Ketoswammy Жыл бұрын
Is it as trivial as the supposed “10% better” that is claimed here (and unobservable)?
@richardwilliams1986
@richardwilliams1986 Жыл бұрын
I agree, but my conclusion comes from owning an Acura RSX and Honda CR-Z both made in Japan, versus my dad's Honda Accord V6 made in Ohio. The body gaps were larger in the Accord, and paint superior on the Japanese Hondas. The CR-Z and Accord was both silver. The Toyota paint description resembled my observations on the Hondas.
@shane6115
@shane6115 Жыл бұрын
I have a 2014 Lexus is300h FSport in pearl white here in Ireland and obviously built in Japan 🇯🇵, I must say the gloss of the paint still amazes me how shiny it still is..
@hydrolifetech7911
@hydrolifetech7911 Жыл бұрын
My Japan-built Toyota Mark X is also in pearl white. I got rear-ended at slow speed by a meth-head and I almost cry whenever I see the difference between the rear bumper repaint and the rest of the factory body paint. The factory paint looks like star-lit cloudless night sky and the repaint after a few months looks like a gloomy winter day sky! OK let me stop before I cry
@toninocars
@toninocars Жыл бұрын
Agreed One thing to point though about the gaps measures, if you measure the left wing gap on one car then should be measured the left wing of the other car and not the right one, because there always can be a difference between L and R
@Buc_Stops_Here
@Buc_Stops_Here Жыл бұрын
Consumer Reports reported on these two cars that the Prime is more upscale than the regular hybrid/gas models. So I would expect the interior to be nicer on the Prime than any other model. Still an interesting comparison.
@badimpulses17
@badimpulses17 Жыл бұрын
My previous Model Y was made in the USA, after 7 visits to the service center and rattles from the trunk area I ended up selling the Tesla.
@grahfkarate1799
@grahfkarate1799 Жыл бұрын
Teslas quality has gotten a lot better!
@badimpulses17
@badimpulses17 Жыл бұрын
@Phillip Banes Where is Made in the USA at then? If it has nothing to do with the country. You don't make sense.
@jkid4855
@jkid4855 Жыл бұрын
that is gonna happen with all Tesla regardless of where it's built lol
@wyw201
@wyw201 Жыл бұрын
@@grahfkarate1799 Why were there quality problems in the first place? Shouldn’t these problems have been caught during assembly?
@iforever520
@iforever520 Жыл бұрын
Your model Y probably built on Monday morning or Friday afternoon 😂
@waffle911
@waffle911 Жыл бұрын
As a repair technician, the better question is: which one is easier to get parts for? We had a Japan-built model (forget the specifics) we needed to wait almost a month for a window regulator and rear springs, both of which we could have had next day for the North American built model.
@LITRLG0D
@LITRLG0D 8 ай бұрын
They use the same parts? Vehicles built in different plants don't use different parts.
@shoersa
@shoersa 8 ай бұрын
Different part numbers?
@vamosnippon
@vamosnippon Жыл бұрын
Wow David what an amazing content! It’s great you can get such a comparison that we all wanted!!! I’m impressed with the Japanese quality but also Toyotas quality in general overseas. There is a difference between the two. Japanese craftsmanship is phenomenal. This video just proves that.
@bngr_bngr
@bngr_bngr Жыл бұрын
I’ve been waiting for this kind of video. Excellent comparison.
@eamonnmcdermott1939
@eamonnmcdermott1939 Жыл бұрын
I absolutely love these videos David, many thanks, keep up the great content!
@AutomotivePress
@AutomotivePress Жыл бұрын
Glad you like them! Thank you
@barneyboyle6933
@barneyboyle6933 Жыл бұрын
This is a great concept for a video. Much more interesting than most other car videos
@bubba4072
@bubba4072 Жыл бұрын
David, your videos are fantastic! I really enjoy them and appreciate how informative they are.
@AutomotivePress
@AutomotivePress Жыл бұрын
Glad you like them!
@davedave2109
@davedave2109 Жыл бұрын
I have worked for Toyota/Lexus in Canada for over 32 years. I believe both vehicles are very good. I do agree Japanese vehicles tend to be a little better. Visiting Japan many times, I definitively know for a fact, the production workers and Engineers in Japan are top notch. But the main weakness for North American built vehicles (albeit small) are the part suppliers. Getting Toyota quality standards, consistently from North American suppliers is very difficult. From what I have seen This is the main difference. On a side note. I have never ever seen any Toyota with a body gap spec target of 5mm Toyota is mostly 3 ± 1.5mm. The Rav hood design is a little wonky. Lexus is even tighter. Nice review and video. Keep up the good work.
@daijoubu4529
@daijoubu4529 Жыл бұрын
This, my thoughts exactly
@covercompositionandmixes9203
@covercompositionandmixes9203 10 ай бұрын
what department are u in?
@J-nj8uv
@J-nj8uv Жыл бұрын
We have two Rav 4s, a 19 and a 22. The 19 was made in Japan and the 22 was made in Canada. I have not found any difference between the two. We also owned a Corolla for 18 years, and it was made in Canada. We never had a problem with the Corolla. I have also experienced several Lexus cars over the years and all of them had exceptional quality.
@tonylombard9991
@tonylombard9991 Жыл бұрын
Bought a 2021 rav4 prime…your comments on product launch are spot on…this car has been fantastic no issues at all….incredible for first year in production
@viktorvik255
@viktorvik255 Жыл бұрын
Сongratulations on your purchase. I bought rav4 plug in hybrid (to the American market called prime) in 2022. Waiting for the car 4 months in our country. For our market (Toyota Europe) rav4 comes only in Japanese assembly. The level of fit of parts both outside and inside makes me very happy (of course, Audi will have a better interior finish, but the price is higher there). The dynamics are amazing, did not expect from car. Fuel consumption pleases. It seems to me that I go to the gas station much less often. So far everything looks great.
@michaelhinson424
@michaelhinson424 Жыл бұрын
My Corolla Hatchback was manufactured in Japan and it is great! No issues at all and the quality is top notch!
@guyinnyc1
@guyinnyc1 Ай бұрын
Mine as well!
@lesmotley6839
@lesmotley6839 Жыл бұрын
The problem doesn't lie in the build quality. Any differences will be in the quality of individual parts. Parts made and sourced in Japan are of extremely good quality while in other parts of the world they can vary because the local manufacturers will be under pressure on price so they never match Japanese quality. All the rubber and plastic parts on my Japanese toyota last up to 20 years while I've replaced many rubber boots etc on my Australian made toyota after as little as 7 years.
@josephkelleher8820
@josephkelleher8820 Жыл бұрын
What about the JATCO {Japanese Automatic Transmission Company} CVT transmissions? Many of these transmissions have been known to fail at an early age.
@lesmotley6839
@lesmotley6839 Жыл бұрын
@@josephkelleher8820 isn't jatco a Nissan company or affiliate. They are the exception to Japanese quality engineering.
@adamesd3699
@adamesd3699 Жыл бұрын
Checking body panels is fine. The bigger question is engine, transmission, and electrical systems.
@jkid4855
@jkid4855 Жыл бұрын
I don't know much about Toyotas but I've own Subarus made in Japan and US. The ones made in Japan has (Forresters) all been rock solid, while the ones made in the US (Outbacks) has been hit and miss. Right now if I were to get another Subaru Made in Japan is absolutely a must for me.
@crystalclarity6766
@crystalclarity6766 Жыл бұрын
This is a very good, technically oriented review. Excellent! Thank you!
@TheHumility101
@TheHumility101 Жыл бұрын
You have a very calming voice. Very pleasant to listen to you! very interesting subject for someone like me who doesn't really know this world! Thank you to show me a new perspective!
@mohammedtariq9048
@mohammedtariq9048 Жыл бұрын
Honestly...this video report is one of the most amazing reports ever. thank you very much for this effort, and I hope you will continue to give.. and thanks Toyota for its sincere customer service and product quality..🇯🇵❤
@georgebc3
@georgebc3 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. I have a Canadian made Rav4 so this was interesting to see. Glad to know the quality level is still high in comparison to the Japan made Rav4.
@AutomotivePress
@AutomotivePress Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@pucpuc937
@pucpuc937 8 ай бұрын
@@AutomotivePress THANK YOU!! EXCELLENT JOB AND GREATLY APPRECIATE SIR!! Have you heard anything about the corrosion problems on the high voltage power cable on the RAV4 Prime? There is lots of information on it (actually, its my understanding there is class action litigation on it here in the USA) on the RAV4 Prime forums. I was wondering if that issue has been solved for the 2023/2024 models? If so, what is the current solution? I live in Michigan (gets cold and snowy), am looking VERY SERIOUSLY at a RAV4 Prime and would LOVE to hear your thoughts. THANK YOU!
@hifibest
@hifibest 7 ай бұрын
Hi David, Nice to meet you! Thank you for your great videos and information as well Keep up your great work!
@robertolds6178
@robertolds6178 Жыл бұрын
Thanks again for this kind of analysis.
@hakeem6060
@hakeem6060 Жыл бұрын
your thorough presentation is amazing!
@frankmartin1325
@frankmartin1325 Жыл бұрын
Next time, try to get one from Kentucky (TMMK), our 2022 Rav4 Hybrid Limited had tons of rattles inside at first, fortunately after a few hundred miles they went away. Only one rattle left, by the B-pillar / driver seat belt on rough roads. 13K miles trouble free and avg 41.7 mpg at the pump!
@richardwilliams1986
@richardwilliams1986 Жыл бұрын
It's probably from the chicken bones purposely left in the body trim somewhere. Go USA
@mikemj8204
@mikemj8204 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great video. I'm waiting on a Rav4 Limited Hybrid from Japan same color as the ones shown in your video.
@Gregs80Z
@Gregs80Z Жыл бұрын
You're reviews are great to watch. I have a 2023 4 runner TRD pro the solar octane paint quality looks really good. My only disappointment it's the tailgate gaps aren't even. it's my third 4Runner and I never noticed that on the other two
@pmpbuhgm
@pmpbuhgm Жыл бұрын
First of all, highly appreciate all what went into the production of this quality episode. For me what matters is consistency. Even a tiny fraction of numbers is worth considering. I was able to tell the difference between the two cars and which is which even before you started the examination and the explanation. If anyone here might have the chance to visit Japan he or she will understand that Japan is out of this world and how Japanese highly appreciate themselves with regards to people and culture and whatever belongs to Japan (it is all about appreciation and belonging). Thus, any Japanese entity who desires to make anything for Japan must consider what was previously mentioned.
@ravipeiris4388
@ravipeiris4388 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this in-depth analysis. Still given the opportunity to purchase vehicles, I would still purchase the Japanese built Toyota due to their persistent and enduring work ethic, Ravi Peiris M.D.
@ytj22
@ytj22 Жыл бұрын
Seems like you've made some assumptions about the enduring work ethic of Toyota's employees in North America, Doc. I've toured their factories and I recommend it for you too!
@MarcNeilson
@MarcNeilson Жыл бұрын
Wow, I thought I was the only one who geeked out on this! Thank you.
@Retiredmco
@Retiredmco Жыл бұрын
David this is wonderful 😊 content! Thanks for your time.
@AutomotivePress
@AutomotivePress Жыл бұрын
You're very welcome!
@teikken
@teikken Жыл бұрын
Half millimeter gap difference is imperceptible to the eye. The mass of ordinary people buying these vehicles won’t care about.
@lechen5540
@lechen5540 Жыл бұрын
Thanks. I measured the gaps between panels on 2006 Camry and Accord when I purchased my 06 camry and my friend got his 06 Accord. The gaps on Accord were obvious smaller.
@drutgat2
@drutgat2 Жыл бұрын
So, really, the Canadian and Japanese models are so similar in the standard of construction as to make no real difference between them. To me, the mechanical functioning is much more important than aesthetics and ergonomics, so would you think about doing a video about the quality of the Canadian and Japanese built RAV4s from that viewpoint?
@franciskankifung
@franciskankifung Жыл бұрын
May be l am wrong, wasting time to talk the gap.... engine is more important.
@chupacabra6263
@chupacabra6263 Жыл бұрын
I worked for a company that had major customers in Japan and there requirements for quality were INSANE
@dougheath3707
@dougheath3707 Жыл бұрын
I agree with your assessments after years of personal experience I am biased toward Japanese production consistency. I'll never forget the impression I had after living in Japan for 2 years and coming back to the states and seeing the newly released movie GungHo I'm glad that Toyota sends Japanese to teach gaijin factories and hold them to the same standards.
@barrydraper
@barrydraper Жыл бұрын
I still have my 2016 Lexus RX 350 (Made in Ontario, CA) and it's been perfect in every way. The fit & finish is still incredible and it's only had regular maintenance; i.e. oil changes, a battery, tires, etc. It still looks & drives like new. The 4th Gen RX model ran from 2016-2022, so people still think it's much newer than it actually is. I like that it's got the super reliable, naturally aspirated 3.5L V6 engine (no turbos). The 2023 models went to turbo 4-bangers.
@jimmyamico4713
@jimmyamico4713 Жыл бұрын
Hi David, These by far are my favorite videos that you do when you compare the quality control from Japan to the quality control of North America, including Mexico, United States, and Canada. I am biased towards Japanese craftsmanship & I appreciate the hard work of the Takumi craftsmanship… in my opinion it’s the best in the world…. My face. My favorite examples of Takumi craftsmanship vehicles are the LX 570 the GX 460 and the LC 500. The Tahara factory and the Moto Machi factory are my favorites. I hope I get to visit them and go there at some time in my life. Thank you. David, your videos are like the LC 500 pretty much flawless. Respectfully Submitted, JimmyUSAF 🇺🇸🙏✝️💜⭐️🌎🇨🇦🇯🇵🇮🇹
@jetv1471
@jetv1471 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your service ! 🇺🇸❤️🇺🇸
@christianroman780
@christianroman780 Жыл бұрын
My dad is still driving his 1989 Toyota van built in Japan. Incredibly reliable, except the the usual rotting rubber and a few minor oil leaks here and there.
@lorne797
@lorne797 Жыл бұрын
Great video thank you. Very well organized and communicated.
@WhittyPics
@WhittyPics Жыл бұрын
It is a different culture in Japan. They are very quality conscience and they take pride in their work. I am retired from a company that exported to Japan and they would inspect the shipment before they unloaded the boat. If they found something they didn't like, they would sen the entire shipment back
@TexasCat99
@TexasCat99 Жыл бұрын
I order things from Japan or sometimes, get them in the USA as there are a few locally. The packaging from Japan is usually top notch and any damage in shipment, did not come happen over there.
@luptonpittman6520
@luptonpittman6520 Жыл бұрын
Quality conscious
@vpattt1619
@vpattt1619 Жыл бұрын
I have a 2008 Corolla and a 2015 Rav4 both made in Japan and I have encountered 0 problems with them and love them both deeply. Hopefully the trend continues on my next car, hopefully a Toyota (or maybe a Lexus) made in Japan. If not that, then I do trust the engineers of Canada
@tomlam3680
@tomlam3680 Жыл бұрын
Thank you Davis, awesome information
@AutomotivePress
@AutomotivePress Жыл бұрын
Very welcome!
@99unclebob
@99unclebob Жыл бұрын
Thank you David, this is what i found when i worked for Volvo in Canada back in the late 80's, cars built in Sweden were marginally better than those built in Halifax, Nova Scotia and the differences were mainly panel gaps/squeaks and rattles, all components at the time were made and shipped from Sweden back then , and paint fit/finish were basically as your just described in the Rav4 comparison , the Japanese employees have more years of experience than the Ontario staff, I believe knowing allot of Japanese people myself there is more the idea of always put your honest effort into what you do each and every time you do this task, even to the point of over doing things sometimes, alas as you said the average person/buyer won't know or care and it was the same with my old Volvo customers to, great video 👍
@Redhawk24
@Redhawk24 Жыл бұрын
David, great video! What about road noise inside the cabin? Is that indicative of build quality (my ‘22 Rav4 hybrid has more noise than ideal).
@slimpickins101
@slimpickins101 Жыл бұрын
I have a 2019 Rav 4 and I absolutely love it. Toyota reliability is top notch. Amazing review! Thank you sir!
@billricheter5678
@billricheter5678 Жыл бұрын
You bought a good year. New ones aren’t good 2:46
@slimpickins101
@slimpickins101 Жыл бұрын
@@billricheter5678 yea that’s what I’ve been hearing!
@dein45d
@dein45d Жыл бұрын
Great videos. Im still waiting for my rav prime. Do you think that delivery times will shorten or lengthen in 2023?
@45taraki
@45taraki Жыл бұрын
I have 3 toyotas, 2 of them are made japan and one is made in US. I can tell japan made toyotas are more better, from paint, body panel gaps, plastic injection moldings. I also noticed, japan made toyotas noise level inside the cabin are more quite than the one that are made in US.
@jsfbay1
@jsfbay1 Жыл бұрын
David, if the gap is wider on the Canadian RAV4, and the gaps are symmetrical (same gap on both sides in the case of the hood and tailgate), then the hood and hatch are actually *smaller* than the Japanese one. Does this make sense? If I'm correct, this says to me that Toyota trusts the Japanese assembly line to align panels to a higher standard than the Canadian RAV4 line. Very interesting video!!! Thank you for making it for us!! (My last thought is that these cars represent only two data points - but I don't doubt your conclusion at all!)
@mikemarshall7016
@mikemarshall7016 Жыл бұрын
Yes I’d like to know this too. In the case of the hood, I guess it just sits a mm lower but the doors, are the Canadian ones smaller or is the door frame bigger?
@claygaudet2117
@claygaudet2117 Жыл бұрын
@@mikemarshall7016 same size same parts
@tariqalam1936
@tariqalam1936 Жыл бұрын
Very informative! 👍🏼
@reaality3860
@reaality3860 Жыл бұрын
As an owner of five Toyotas over the years, starting from my 1987 4Runner, and now the owner of a 2022 RAV4 Hybrid AWD built in Canada, I recommend meticulous upkeep and gentle driving of any make or model vehicle to insure long life and reliability. I believe lemons can be had from any brand, but fewer come from Toyota.
@michaelvella8511
@michaelvella8511 Жыл бұрын
At least Toyota kept the quality of manufacturing in North America up to their high standard and, from what I know their engineers continuously supervise the process of each part as it's being made, no matter which third party manufacture they picked. Serious about keeping their reputation.
@rickm8456
@rickm8456 Жыл бұрын
Interesting and good video. Just picked up a 2023 Corolla LE here in the US. I noticed the first few cars of any new model year are built in Japan. So, mine is a J VIN. No rattles or squeaks. Overall fit and finish is excellent. However, when I took delivery the steering wheel was slightly off-center. That may have been caused by the long transport and being tied down. Also, I noticed the trunk is difficult to close. That may have nothing to do with the factory location. Anyway, hoping the quality is long lasting.
@MrPhantom453
@MrPhantom453 Жыл бұрын
Can't fault my 2022 RAV4 which was built in Japan. Absolutely love it! The current wait time is the killer though.
@MrPhantom453
@MrPhantom453 Жыл бұрын
@@witchdoktor69 Australia.
@viktorvik255
@viktorvik255 Жыл бұрын
I'm glad for you that you waited for your RAV4. I have been waiting for my RAV4 plug in 2022 for a long time due to the disruption of logistics by Russian aggression
@bobm21
@bobm21 7 ай бұрын
As the owner of a 2023 RAV4 PRIME I can state that the build quality is outstanding, not a single rattle or squeak, tracks dead straight on the freeway with the steering wheel dead center with fit and finish top notch. They are truly over achievers.
@carlobinda1127
@carlobinda1127 Жыл бұрын
New subscriber here. I also wondered about the differences, so this video was very interesting to watch! 👍
@user-zh9kc7tw4n
@user-zh9kc7tw4n Жыл бұрын
Great video. A question some of the new Lexus NX cars that was launched in 2021 had some issues where some welding points was missed and the information is limited but in forums some have said that it was cars made in Ontario that had this issue, I got an NX myself but it was not effected.
@squishy312
@squishy312 Жыл бұрын
Monozukuri is a very true and beautiful thing. The way that Japanese people understand and think about crafting/manufacturing is different than most places in the world. That is why the craftsmanship of almost everything made in Japan will be of the best quality. Americans(Canadians too), have some of that mentality when they put their mind to it and focus on the job at hand. It's not a way of life for most North Americans to consider that same quality throughout everything they do at home or at work. Sometimes, distractions at home cause the work to be less than top notch. It's still great quality, because the design is good. It's just not done as precise as it could be. I, myself prefer a Japan made anything, be it a tool, vehicle, or kitchen utensil. Next up would be American made. Then German, and the list goes on. Great video!
@ramseyrodriguez8515
@ramseyrodriguez8515 Жыл бұрын
I would like to see this kind of comparison with newer plants in emerging mkt e.g. Brasil, Vietnam, Thailand, compared to Japanese and NA built Toyotas 🙏🏻
@vuongdo1401
@vuongdo1401 Жыл бұрын
Toyota Canada Cambridge has won many JD Power plant awards. From silver to platinum, best in the world!!
@BiGFLATE98
@BiGFLATE98 Жыл бұрын
I have a 16’ rav4 built in Japan, love it. Toyota is awesome
@jamesmcdonald5026
@jamesmcdonald5026 Жыл бұрын
I bought both a Canadian built Buick and a Toyota. Both were awesome.
@PeteKowalsky
@PeteKowalsky Жыл бұрын
3 seconds flat is all it took me to tell which one was built in Japan, LOL! Thank you for all your insights.
@TheGomezIndustries
@TheGomezIndustries Жыл бұрын
Not only for cars. There’s also a good reason why true Katanas can only be made in Japan. This says a lot about the remarkable talent of Japanese craftsmen and how they apply the same principles in every craft that they do.
@bigfootswatching9986
@bigfootswatching9986 Жыл бұрын
I can honestly tell you from my experience when I purchased the new 2019 Rav-4 Adventure which was built in Canada....man this thing had nothing but issues! Automatic Trunk lift gate would stop working periodically, electrical issues flickering, certain panel's were just latched on and felt like the build quality was just poor! I got rid of it and puchased the new 2021 Rav4 built in Japan....and let me tell you...... looking at the build quality was just different! Never had any issues with it.... overall i'm a firm believer Japanese built vehicles are put together way better due to the workers serious work ethics and pride!
@AirplaneFreak
@AirplaneFreak Жыл бұрын
Both seem pretty well built but my experience is sometimes the b pillar trims don’t line up and on a Japan built prime was a little separated. Of course it’s rushing to get the allocation schedules on time. But all in all, I’d still prefer the Japan made one even though I will not lose any sleep over a Canadian built one.
@ryzen397
@ryzen397 Жыл бұрын
I have an 04 Toyota Tacoma TRD 4wd built in California and love it!
@scottsellers9039
@scottsellers9039 Жыл бұрын
I have a 2018 Tacoma made in NA that has had 0 issues, and I'm 100% pleased with. Now to the Rav4. We HAD a NA made 2021 Rav4 XLE premium that was totaled in a 2 car accident with 32000 miles on it. My wife claimed it saved her life! We replaced it with a 2023 Rav4 XLE premium that's ofJapanese manufacturer. I would be very hard pressed to show you a difference between the two, but my wife swears the new one drives better, I can't tell a difference in the driving. I do think it's a little quieter for some reason, but I've experienced more difference in sound from a tire change.
@bassmonk2920
@bassmonk2920 7 ай бұрын
One of my deciding factors of getting the RAV4 Prime built in Japan
@theocraz176
@theocraz176 Жыл бұрын
This is an awesome video. I think it would be neat in the futur to do a blind study, covering up the parts that are unique to each model and you judge them without knowing which country origin during analysis. Would be closer to the golden double blind standard for research, though not of course possible with this type analysis.
@jamesm.2802
@jamesm.2802 Жыл бұрын
Interesting video. Have you visited the Princeton, Indiana plant? I just got a Highlander Hybrid from there. Curious how it compares to Ontario and Japan.
@charley95sheridan44
@charley95sheridan44 Жыл бұрын
14 RX Canadian built and 18 GS Japan built owner here. Apples and oranges comparison but, I do notice the GS has a slightly better fit and finish than my RX. I've often wondered what makes the finish slightly better on a Japan built Toyota/Lexus?! Finish does vary from one unit to the other down the production line I'd assume but I still wonder what minute paint process typically makes a Japanese unit a better finish?! I thoroughly love my Lexus units vs. the domestic cars I've driven all my life.I will remain Lexus loyal for now on.
@subforceusa694
@subforceusa694 Жыл бұрын
Good review
@vw8080
@vw8080 Жыл бұрын
Love this video. I always feel Japanese made factories/QC pay more attention to detail’s compared NA made one. Your comparison really nailed it.
@luptonpittman6520
@luptonpittman6520 Жыл бұрын
Details
@user-xq2cr8ko9b
@user-xq2cr8ko9b 10 ай бұрын
thank you for your enlightening video! wondering do you have any stats on rav4's gasoline models made in Alabama vs Canada or Japan? have always felt Japan made cars are better but would be nice to know
@OcaOca
@OcaOca Жыл бұрын
As an Auto Engineer, can you do a video on what actually changes in the car from the first produced car of a model year to the last produced car of the same model year? The CarCareNut channel always says to wait 8 months if you're buying a first model year of a new generation, and we are all curious as to why. Adjacently, is there any real difference between the last produced car of a previous model year and the first produced car of the next model year for the first two years of a new generation model?
@GBR9794
@GBR9794 Жыл бұрын
I think it has to do with numbers of recalls and common issues warned by Toyota internally as well as their work experience which can be different since he lives in the rust belt.
@susanmeredith4957
@susanmeredith4957 Жыл бұрын
Love my Ontario built Rav4 hybrid. The one thing I don’t like it they just use a flap of material on steering column at the base to cover up the area that’s adjustable. I never noticed until I sat in passenger seat and looked over at it. Does the Japan built have it too? For a Limited model I expected better.
@wiltontan
@wiltontan Жыл бұрын
Thank you! Great video. My 2020 RX350L from Japan rattles a lot more than my 2004 ES330, also from Japan, as of now. LOL. Other than that, everything is top-notch by Toyota Japan. As long as the vehicle is reliable and doesn't stop on the freeway, I am happy! I don't care much about where it comes from anymore.
@scottburke4800
@scottburke4800 Жыл бұрын
Great video. I wonder if the differences are due to the numbers that each plant are producing and how quickly the Canadian plant is having to put out to keep up with demand for the hybrid compared to the Prime version.
@facetiousmonkey5322
@facetiousmonkey5322 Жыл бұрын
Quality should never be compromised for Quantity. Besides, the factory in Japan is probably working just as busy cranking out Primes for the Global market
@paranoidhumanoid
@paranoidhumanoid Жыл бұрын
I think there is a cultural component to this. The workers are innately obsessive about symmetry and quality control. They would inspect it and never allow a product with panel gaps to leave the floor. It would bring such embarrassment to the individuals and the company as a whole.
@dtna
@dtna Жыл бұрын
Good video! Anyone with R&D, auto manufacturing, engineering or build quality knowledge will appreciate these videos. There is a difference in build quality. Wait until you compare gaps with Mexico built trucks/cars.
@rosethornil
@rosethornil 3 ай бұрын
Recently bought and sold a Honda Fit that had been made in Mexico. It had so many annoying problems and rattles and screwy issues. I just ordered a RAV4 from a dealership and got one with a J VIN. I’m very happy about that.
@eliran6645
@eliran6645 Жыл бұрын
Great compare tnx
@AmandaHuggenkiss
@AmandaHuggenkiss Жыл бұрын
A Corolla from Blue Springs vs a Corolla from Aichi would be an interesting comparison. I am reluctant to buy one originating from Blue Springs but that is all that seems to be in inventory lately.
@jonathanratliff4780
@jonathanratliff4780 Жыл бұрын
Corolla hybrids are only built in Japan also at this time
@tutubee507
@tutubee507 Жыл бұрын
Subed, done! Nice to know the difference between the two.
@bcw686
@bcw686 Жыл бұрын
I am still hanging on to my 2004 Acura TL and I can 't tell you how many people say how good the paint job has held the gloss and newish looks. Yeah, the dashboard cracked years ago and the drivers side seat is starting to rip. But as far as the way it drives and how good the engine has held up, I am very pleased because this car was built in Japan. I think those dashboards cracked because of the glue they used for the 3rd generation but this car is just a machine.
@mackereljuice1537
@mackereljuice1537 Жыл бұрын
Just FYI, all Acura TLs since the second generation model introduced for the 1999 model year have been built in Marysville, Ohio.
@bcw686
@bcw686 Жыл бұрын
@@mackereljuice1537 even if it says made in Japan? Either way this car is so good
@stachowi
@stachowi Жыл бұрын
This was awesome.
@conniedean620
@conniedean620 11 ай бұрын
I bought a 91 Celica in 1993, Japanese built. I love this car,it's totally rust free. No problems. I love the little red car.
@twinforce_fusion6560
@twinforce_fusion6560 Жыл бұрын
Proud Canadian owner of a 2020 Rav4. Just wondering regarding the 1.0mm difference is because of the severe Winter conditions? Cheers
@user-og3ys8qw5i
@user-og3ys8qw5i Жыл бұрын
David, if you have the opportunity to go to mainland China, I suggest doing a comparison of the production process and quality of the RAV4 produced by FAW Toyota and GAC Toyota. There is a saying that Toyota has to lower the quality in order to meet the profit requirements of the Chinese side.
@charlesdudek7713
@charlesdudek7713 Жыл бұрын
I have owned U S built Hondas and Toyotas since 1990. It has been nothing but a great experience.
@rightlanehog3151
@rightlanehog3151 Жыл бұрын
Indeed.
@cheez1012
@cheez1012 Жыл бұрын
Is there a video comparing specs next? I'm curious to see what features are different on the highest trim for both due to different regulations or money saving. We have a car built in Japan, but its US spec so it doesn't have certain options offered in Japan, such as engine choices, optional safety features, etc.
@lmfinato
@lmfinato Жыл бұрын
Would love to see this same comparison with Japan vs one made in United States.
@MrJFunkSanchez
@MrJFunkSanchez Жыл бұрын
Do you see a new body style coming out for 2024? I’m seeing too many of this style on the road now.
@chivse7064
@chivse7064 Жыл бұрын
Hi sir I am very congratulations to hear you are tell every thing in car out side and inside . Much much much thanks Best regards Chivse🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
@rodriguezahr
@rodriguezahr Жыл бұрын
Very interesting video. In the market for one of these, but now I’m confused, there’s a hybrid model and an electric model? The ones I’m finding in my country are either Hybrid or LE or XLE version.
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