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Japanese & Chinese Quality Compared
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Күн бұрынIs the quality gap between Japanese products and their Chinese-made twins a myth? The same brand should mean equal standards, right? Or is it worth paying more for the genuine article? Some people believe that Japanese-made #coffee gear is always better; others say that Chinese manufacturing has come a long way in recent years and the differences are negligible. I take a close look at the #Hario_Buono gooseneck kettle -- one example made in Japan, the other in China -- and put this question to rest.
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@s.irvingbeer1207 2 жыл бұрын
I live in Japan and the attention to detail is off the charts. I adore Hario products and refuse to purchase any unless they hail from these islands.
@juicybiscuit527 Жыл бұрын
I won't buy chinese OR japanese because their age of consent is 13 and honor protects predators from being convicted of horrible crimes like beating their wives, children, and sleeping with underage children. Japan likes to prey on 13 yr old girls, therefore, japan should no longer exist. Not to mention they STILL WON'T own up to their WW2 evil. Japan is sneaky and evil. china is incompetent and evil.
@yuugatenshi 3 жыл бұрын
I've always have the same question myself and it's great to see someone do a comparison! Thank you!
@wiredgourmet 3 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful :)
@YukariAkiyamaTanks 2 жыл бұрын
This is why I always say buy Japanese or American. Quality is superb.
@sleeptime5464 2 жыл бұрын
i bought Asahi beer that was brewed in America... big mistake... i would pay the extra money and get the real deal
@HaggardPillockHD 11 ай бұрын
Lmfao I'd place America in the same quality category as China. German and Japanese made products are the highest quality
@4everyoung869 10 ай бұрын
American products are trash. Most Americans products made from China. An I’m a American saying this.
@rickyboy6390 7 ай бұрын
Because it's high quality but expansive
@k6-3spetznazhelmet 5 ай бұрын
I would only ever buy Japanese if I could, American quality has gone downhill very much.
@yudhaforever8783 Жыл бұрын
China: Quantity comes first, while Quality is Number one hundred and so. Japan, US, Korea, Europe and etc: Top quality, Quantity adjust. it lasts forever.
@kingcobrahs 2 жыл бұрын
My mission is to not use/buy any PRC products in my kitchen
@Yu-hx5jo 2 жыл бұрын
you dont have to cause you already maybe owning Chinese made products
@aaronso0624 Жыл бұрын
@@Yu-hx5jo Because made-in-China products are always shame to let customers know their origin.
@Proletrolliat Жыл бұрын
Both chinese and russian products are big no no for me
@TomJones-tx7pb 2 жыл бұрын
This video taught me more about working with metal than I already knew. Subliminally I had noticed some of this before, but it is really nice to have it explicitly pointed out. A trend I noticed a few years ago is that some Chinese clones are exceeding in quality the originals from the USA. I first noticed this in electronic test equipment. If a manufacturer goes too far in cutting corners, without reducing the price to the consumer, they become easy prey to Chinese clones.
@Embargoman 2 жыл бұрын
Same with the clones of Harley-Davidonsn motorcycle that a Chinese clone of a Harley-Davidonsn performs like a Honda.
@heytchap 3 жыл бұрын
Another fun, informative video. I really love your channel. I’d love to see you explore Specialita mods, like 3D printed bases that angle the grinder 25-40° like the new single doser Eureka is putting out. I’d also like to see you look at something like the DF64. Hope the health issue is mild. Best of luck. 🤝
@wiredgourmet 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks. I will look into some of the mods as you suggest; it's a popular grinder. Funny you should mention the DF64. One of our channel regulars got one recently and had some serious build-quality issues right off the bat. I think I'll hold fire on that until I learn more. I think next I'll do the Fellow Ode -- after it gets the new burr set that's promised for this summer.
@baka16649 2 жыл бұрын
It’s funny that in Chinese market we only have the jp version, Chinese made ones are hard to find, maybe just because all the retailers knows the fact Chinese made ones are just too poor in quality… or maybe Chinese made ones are just for exports…
@wiredgourmet 2 жыл бұрын
I think Chinese people know what's going on in those workshops :)
@thebackpacker6957 Жыл бұрын
China truly offers goods in accordance with their price. They produce pricey, subpar, and inexpensive goods. The majority of products are sold from China at extremely low prices, yet after taxes, tariffs, and the substantial profit gained by middlemen and businesses The majority of products become more expensive once they reach consumers, and people underestimate China because they don't realize they are purchasing a 2-dollar item for a 20-dollar price tag while the greatest 2-dollar items are actually available in China.
@arun2995 2 күн бұрын
I have the Japanese one for over six years now and I adore making coffee or tea with it. Yes, it cost more but I assure you it will last a life time if you take care of it. I cannot imagine saving so little money and wonder the rest of my life what if?
@Mk-pt7rq Жыл бұрын
私は口に入れるもので中国製品は怖くて使えない。
@peixiangluo888 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder the price difference on both kettles. I default “the quality comes with a price”.
@wiredgourmet 2 жыл бұрын
The better made one cost me 10 euros more, so definitely the better deal.
@ancientgamer3645 7 ай бұрын
Business management expert Demming went to Japan when the Japanese manufacturers wanted to know how to compete better. He said make the products better. They did. It was a little bit more complex than this, but this really stresses the main issue. Better made products sell better.
@yuzuki7531 Жыл бұрын
MADE IN JAPAN 🇯🇵
@RIZFERD Ай бұрын
Brainwashing people worldwide to think that Made in Japan is better is a SCAM, A FRAUD. Japan is on the brink of collapse. Gone the glorious days of Japan, British, Europe and USA. Not only in DSLR and lenses but in everything China outshine them Including Smartphones, household equipments, cars, etc.
@jiaqingdiao929 Жыл бұрын
Good job. And after watching this video I realized the major benefit of being a Chinese who use the same Japan made kettle is that I don’t have to buy a Chinese version to know why I shouldn’t
@chrisvan4328 7 ай бұрын
Japan 1000%
@NirajKumar-wb5hg 6 ай бұрын
Its simple : If u can compromise with quality but want exact same looking product with almost same features = buy from 🇨🇳
@orrinbelcher6593 2 жыл бұрын
Nice video fun and informative, superbly done. So sorry to hear about some health issues. Looking forward to seeing you back again in June, take care.
@wiredgourmet 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you. Actually, I posted that last Spring, so "June" has already passed, and as you can see, I'm back on my feet :)
@orrinbelcher6593 2 жыл бұрын
@@wiredgourmet oh, wonderful wonderful news, thank you,
@ytalilau Жыл бұрын
Read the book "Poorly Made in China" and you will understand it is such an uphill battle for foreign makers to keep the manufacturing standard consistent in their factories in China.
@B16WGZ Жыл бұрын
Are you sure this is really an official Hario product made in China? It looks more like a Chinese copycat to me, to which Hario themselves had no contribution. Those people will shamelessly copy absolutely anything, complete with fake names and logos.
@富士山太助 5 ай бұрын
I am very happy that my country is well-received, but we also need cheap Chinese products.
@michaeldimmitt2188 2 жыл бұрын
Another great video with helpful content!
@wiredgourmet 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you think so!
@pedrocamara8495 3 жыл бұрын
Great video as always, abut I have a question about espresso machines, I have searched many, and if I'm not sure if I want to spend 400€ on a machine, should I buy a cheap one for around 150€, with a good grinder, or should I go all in, because I was going for a rok, but thinking deeply, I want to see where my money is going and a Gaggia Classic pro seems like the best option, good community and simplicity if I want to repair it, but it's still too expensive for me(around 400€), I live in Europe and I don't know why but the machines go around 90-150€ the cheapest and then jump to the 400-600€ and then to the 1000€, is there any decent machine around 250€ top(that can do large espresso,or doppio because frothing is secondary to me, but I like milk based drinks like capucchinos)???
@wiredgourmet 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks. If espresso is going to be a daily thing, then I would wait, save up and get the Gaggia; it's moddable, upgradable, and there's community support. And you can get a competent manual grinder for under 200 like the Timemore C2 or G1, or the 1Zpresso JX-Pro, or the Orphan Lido series.
@michaeldimmitt2188 2 жыл бұрын
@@wiredgourmet and on the heels of your Chinese vs Japanese comparison, which grinders (hand & electric) come from Chinese companies? I have hardly any money to support the coffee industry, but I do want to support companies that have to make it on their own and not be subsidized or controlled by their government.
@8richard862 Жыл бұрын
In China, factory wages are very low, and some intermediaries exploit workers, so workers often change jobs. They often receive abuse from management, so the quality can't keep up.
@kennethteo7974 2 ай бұрын
This is the reason I avoid made in China products as much as possible.
@checkoutmyyoutubepage 2 жыл бұрын
Haha this video is fun and informative. The music adds a nice touch.
@wiredgourmet 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it!
@Steve-of8zo 3 ай бұрын
Wouldn't it make more sense to boycott the brand altogether for their lack of enforcing quality standards?
@hy_1337 Жыл бұрын
The second question is who design/create the product, and who is just copy/steal it.
@mohawk4759 8 ай бұрын
i know jack about coffee but i googled this question because i realized i have a japanese car, japanese keyboard, just ate some japanese beef at dinner and its all amazing lol
@Embargoman 2 жыл бұрын
By the time they will be equal to the Japanese made one, I bet their are Made in USA Hario products too.
@wakeawaken430 2 жыл бұрын
As a European, when I lived in Canada for some time, couldn't believe how you accept to compare American heavy duty products with fake Chinese garbage In Europe when we want to say that a product will not last even a year, we say that it's "Chinese"
@Embargoman 2 жыл бұрын
Now Chinese products are in equal quality to German products!
@wakeawaken430 2 жыл бұрын
@@Embargoman Not even in your dreams, and I am not German
@Embargoman 2 жыл бұрын
@@wakeawaken430 Where are you from? Well Mercedes Benz cars sold for the Chinese market that are made in China have the same quality as the Mercedes Benz that are made in Germany.
@wakeawaken430 2 жыл бұрын
@@Embargoman there are products Chinese that are well made, but worldwide when you say a product is "Chinese", it means low quality, and that's the spirit, low quality, super low price
@rokkeey Жыл бұрын
As a person who has been to North America, Europe, The Middle East, and far east Asia. And been working in the supply chain for a long time, I would say Western products are so overrated, and you can get much better Chinese products for a lower price and even with better quality. It all depends on the retailer if he wants to buy cheap low-quality products he will just buy it because it is cheaper and sell it to the end consumers, however, there are expensive and high-quality products and they are all made in China, and recent study it shows that China is ahead of the rest of the world in 37 out of 44 in key technology areas which means now Chinese products are even much better, also another study by the ITIF which is an American organization it shows that China is now ahead of the USA and the rest of the world! which also means China has much better quality products than the rest of the world. BTW I am not Chinese not even an Asian at all.
@rhythmandacoustics 2 жыл бұрын
I would advise not buying any made in China at all except if it is disposable and not being used frequently.
@PSspecialist 2 жыл бұрын
I appreciate your attention to detail in these reviews. I was wondering if you ever find yourself using a thermos? It's probably a more niche topic but I'd love to see a video about it. There are so many choices on the market that I'm overwhelmed and I'd love to hear recommendations. Is the Hario Stick Bottle for instance any good? It looks quite stylish and elegant but I'd hate to spend 20 euros on a bottle and then find out that it isn't water-tight.
@thebackpacker6957 Жыл бұрын
China truly offers goods in accordance with their price. They produce pricey, subpar, and inexpensive goods. The majority of products are sold from China at extremely low prices, yet after taxes, tariffs, and the substantial profit gained by middlemen and businesses The majority of products become more expensive once they reach consumers, and people underestimate China because they don't realize they are purchasing a 2-dollar item for a 20-dollar price tag while the greatest 2-dollar items are actually available in China.
@pluraltest9242 Жыл бұрын
Always avoid Chinese products when possible
@aidilakbar9872 12 күн бұрын
Cina selalu mikirin cuan cuan dan cuan ga peduli lh sama kualitas , selama konsumen mau beli karena harga lbh murah yaa ngapain ambil pusing , makanya sekarang cina jd negara dengan ekonomi no 2 di atas jepang , karena produk mereka murah meriah , jd laris manis aja , bukan berarti produk cina ga ada yg bagus , ada jg yg bagus tp pasaran mereka emang lbh banyak untuk ekonomi menengah kebawah
@goofygooberjamundiz2917 2 жыл бұрын
I have a made in China Hario kettle and can't make the lid fall out. Perhaps there's just inconsistencies in the manufacturing.
@wiredgourmet 2 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't surprise me -- or maybe a few diff manufacturers.
@aaronso0624 Жыл бұрын
These are the problems of Chinese manufacturing. They can make inconsistencies in mass production process using machines and their QC is poor too.
@randybutternub031 9 ай бұрын
Coming from the USA, Japan makes the highest quality goods even surpassing us 😌 🇯🇵🇺🇸
@willisbcteoh9840 3 жыл бұрын
Yup you get what you pay for... honest video
@wiredgourmet 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks very much :)
@stoicar Жыл бұрын
Hi this is working on induction hob?
@spamcan9208 2 жыл бұрын
Why would they risk their name like that?
@wiredgourmet 2 жыл бұрын
Good question. Perhaps there are knockoffs circulating in the 'official' retail channels?
@Bozebo Жыл бұрын
Every brand does it so they have to drop to the same lowest common denominator to compete. Bad projections vs other opportunities can mean the whole company collapses because they chose not to max as much profit as feasable in the shortest space of time possible.
@peteryopne6129 3 жыл бұрын
Hey awesome video
@wiredgourmet 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@Redix9 2 жыл бұрын
Bro I’m high af on the weed I grew and this explication of the difference between the two is blowing my mind. Execution inevitable!
@wiredgourmet 2 жыл бұрын
Glad to be of service :)
@chasp_0784 Жыл бұрын
If apple can do it? Oof their stuff has PLENTY of issues in repair circles
@carsiotto 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome vids! I have to know, what’s your mbti? If you don’t know, can you find out? I’d love to know!
@wiredgourmet 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks. I had to look that one up, lol. I don't recall ever taking that test, but I'd accept "Complicated" as a result :)
@carsiotto 3 жыл бұрын
@@wiredgourmet lol you have to take the test. You remind me of a friend and I wanted to see if your mbti matches
@slyztercoreveanged3175 9 ай бұрын
we cannot deny china does make "good" quality product nowadays. But we also cannot deny china quality has 2 part. Either it is really poorly made and really cheap. Or quality made that only sligtly cheaper than other quality manufacturer like japan. And we also cannot deny even those quality made item they still slack off because it just in their nature to build fast and cheaply. Their might be using quality material but they will cheap out on time and labour cost. The product come with bearable quality item but to compare with japanese they still have long way. Japanese is just to proud with their quality item, and they make sure to produce good quality product. They rather just buy from china and sell cheap than produce poor cheap quality item.
@shaadahmed4456 Жыл бұрын
😝🇨🇳😓 vs ❤️🇯🇵❤️
@4everyoung869 10 ай бұрын
Japan always have the best quality
@firstnamelastname-sh6bq Жыл бұрын
With Japan's new rocket launch failure in March 2023 due engine failure and China's recent successes in all it's space program efforts we can see that quality is shifting.. Those (mainly North Europeans and AngloSaxon Americans) who continue to believe old stereotypes of quality should wake up to the new status quo. China is rising, Japans setting sun.
@jamieterrill Жыл бұрын
The success of china's space program is a LIE. China isn't any more successful than japan when it comes to space travel.
@pmcpegasus Жыл бұрын
" China is rising, Japans setting sun. " LOL!!! It's not a stereotype, its fact, China will NEVER be better than Japan! They kicked your ass in WW2, they will do so in the future!
@ItaloDance2000 Жыл бұрын
中國製造，廉價的代名詞
@filippoye609 3 жыл бұрын
5:30 Do you ever pour at that degree, though? Imo I would call that a negligible disappointment
@wiredgourmet 3 жыл бұрын
I don't, but one will imagine it falling and instinctively pour with 2 hands.
@estwern 3 жыл бұрын
That kettle is a knockoff hario not a genuine one. And please don't put 3 ads in 9 minutes videos.
@wiredgourmet 3 жыл бұрын
You know this how, exactly? I got it through the official distribution network, so I'm assuming it's legit, made in China. Besides, a knockoff would be fraudulently labeled made in Japan. I will look into the ads thing; that's way too much.
@estwern 3 жыл бұрын
@@wiredgourmet i bought one similar to your chinese kettle from a local store. lasted almost a summer. indeed it wasn't marked with hario logo, but everyhing else looked almost the same. check with the distributor, maybe it was a mistake on their part.
@wiredgourmet 3 жыл бұрын
@@estwern I will forward them a link, see what they have to say. My Chinese one has a legit-looking Hario stamp: same font and size. Appreciate the heads up about the excessive ads; fixed that.
@NoZenith Жыл бұрын
😵
@ingwentsai3929 2 жыл бұрын
I never get to understand why ppl making fun of chinese stuff, go buy italian made or german made, why bother buying and complaining at the same time, the answer is actually simple, chinese made is wat u can only afford.
@wiredgourmet 2 жыл бұрын
You nailed it :)
@timmarshall4881 3 жыл бұрын
Good luck with the health issues.
@wiredgourmet 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks :)
@michaeldimmitt2188 2 жыл бұрын
Hopefully not caffeine poisoning from so many AWESOME COFFEE VIDEOS!
@BlankofMaterial 2 жыл бұрын
I'd still buy the Chinese one and just fix the issues. I sure the margins for Hario are better for the Chinese made kettle, enough that they allow these differences to pass QC without fear of it hurting the brand. A racist person puts down the Chinese made kettle solely because it was made in China, then buys the one made in Japan. Either way Hario wins.
@aaronso0624 Жыл бұрын
We put down China-made products because we came to this conclusion from our painful experience. Their high quality is only in their advertisements, not in their products. I used China-made products for decades but had been disappointed all the time.
@po350 10 ай бұрын
To say chinese products are good is like saying biden can walk up the staircase without falling...
@jchristian8413 Жыл бұрын
it's unfair to make comparisons as Japan has been manufacturing things alot longer than China. I also believe China is being failed by the corrupt ccp. the Chinese are very capable .
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