Great comparison, however I noticed a small error in the specs that you show in the beginning of this showdown. You state that they both have a wheelbase of about 200 inches. Eventhough these are quite big cars with long and very long wheelbases respectively, I guess you meant that the overall length of these cars is more or less 200 inches. Their wheelbases are considerably shorter. Greetings from Amsterdam, NL
@PRNTestDrive6 жыл бұрын
Very right! We realized this mistake after publishing, as our Spotlight episodes show the length, and we forgot to change our specs over for the wheelbase. I'm surprised we haven't pinned a comment about this already.
@eleonik764 жыл бұрын
@@PRNTestDrive That is not fair comparison,by a long shot. That Lexus is the XF20 facelifted version,which doesn't differ much from the XF20,made in 1989. Granted,they were officially unveiled as a new models,but just like the G class ( Mercedes ),in their core,it's the same old model,touched here and there. The real,facelifted E38 competitor, would be the XF30,as they both are more or less on par options,comfort,size and dynamic wise.
@HamburgerHelperDeath2 жыл бұрын
Lexus usually ranks 1 or 2 with their parent Toyota for least cost of maintenance over 10 years. BMW usually ranks #1 in most expensive 10 year maintenance cost. Fact.
@newbutthunt6 жыл бұрын
That LS will run 750k miles longer than that Beamer.
@artiakahotripper6 жыл бұрын
Next time compare LS430 to 740iL. Could be interesting
@PRNTestDrive6 жыл бұрын
The LS430 would be difficult to compare, considering how much hate we got when we did the W220 S-Class against the E38. Since the Lexus began production for the same model year as the BMW this Showdown makes the most sense. We'd like to be able to film an E65 against the UCF30 LS 430.
@AyAy0086 жыл бұрын
Bimmer *
@newbutthunt6 жыл бұрын
I've been to the Junkyard many times and NEVER saw a Lexus there, and I'm having a hard time finding a passenger side window regulator for my 2000 ES300 as of recently. people are telling me a bid on eBay might be my only hope? I'm wondering if a Camry window regulator might work?(forum help-PLS?)
@frankmagana14086 жыл бұрын
Kreepy Pasta i see more lexus’ in the junkyard than i see BMW’s at my local junkyards. Nothing tops the king, the good old jaguars
@JukiReviews6 жыл бұрын
BMW: better looks, interior, overall luxury. Lexus: more reliable
@PRNTestDrive6 жыл бұрын
We agree!
@wholeNwon5 жыл бұрын
NO! It's MUCH, MUCH more reliable.
@eleonik764 жыл бұрын
Not only. As I mentioned,not so fair comparison here,given that this LS was designed and engineered back in 1990,with some minor updates up to 2000. Throw the LS430 XF30 with President package,and you see where the definition of luxury and comfort is. With soft close doors,rear reclining,ventilated and heated seats,premium sound system from Mark& Levinson and other stuff to keep you busy for weeks.
@ericxiong65824 жыл бұрын
BMW: over-engineered JUNK
@privatelisting3666 жыл бұрын
We have both cars in our collection. A Platinum Edition in silver 2000 LS400 with just under 100k miles and a 2001 740i in Titansilber with 72K miles. The LS we would drive across the country without hesitation, the 740i only goes as far as AAA will come to tow it back to the estate for free. Great content and thanks for the comparo!
@PRNTestDrive6 жыл бұрын
Very nice! We like the ideas of the special editions Lexus produced.
@Dragunov3026 жыл бұрын
LS cause driving is more fun than fixing
@PRNTestDrive6 жыл бұрын
Well said!
@RevLexus4 жыл бұрын
very true
@juandanielaguilarmontero88903 жыл бұрын
I have the bmw 😔 hahaha
@incyphe6 жыл бұрын
Golden age of large luxury sedan. Everything has been going downhill since.
@PRNTestDrive6 жыл бұрын
That's how we feel too, things just aren't the same as they were 20 years ago, and I don't think we'll see another era like the 90s for design/engineering.
@shanet75114 жыл бұрын
They’ve gotten better in many ways too though
@shanet7511 Жыл бұрын
@Jonathan McCully Faster, better handling, smoother riding, more efficient, safer in a crash, the addition of a crapton of collision mitigation technology, better infotainment systems, like literally better in every single way. The only thing these older luxury sedans are better at is giving boomers fond memories of their youth.
@shanet7511 Жыл бұрын
@Jonathan McCully The windows are smaller due to the vehicles being built to withstand car accidents better, the interiors of most cars nowadays have better materials, and reliability tends to be better as well. The old LS400 motor is an outlier, most motors from that era weren't as reliable, smooth or powerful (powerful for their size atleast). Many newer luxury cars have great motors, the LS460 is better in quite literally every way than the LS400, and this is true for most vehicles.
@shanet7511 Жыл бұрын
@Jonathan McCully I've had older luxury cars and newer luxury cars, they changed the way they're built for a reason. You just don't like change.
@jettransllc61866 жыл бұрын
This lexus will still go more miles than new 7 series
@PRNTestDrive6 жыл бұрын
That's very true!
@thiccboi17266 жыл бұрын
lol no it wont, the new 740i has the b58 engine, which has been proven to very reliable and economical
@Eldomibori5 жыл бұрын
r33nismo GTR I don’t think there’s a b58 with 1 million miles on it.
@mr.nobody19212 жыл бұрын
@@Eldomibori probably because it's not that old of a engine
@mr.nobody19212 жыл бұрын
@@Eldomibori the new supra has the same engine
@805NAVE6 жыл бұрын
BMW probably has more features, but the Lexus IS far more reliable, cheaper to maintain, and just as good looking. I’ll take the Lexus
@Lekster7776 жыл бұрын
Lexus looks boring, Bimmer looks very beautiful and agressive.
@travelexplore97246 жыл бұрын
The Truth Saying words in air it’s easy... I can say same thing about Mercedes , it is a piece of shit? Are you ok?? No. I use to own Mercedes and now I have BMW . In terms of quality BMW is definitely a better made car. Engine in bmw is better than Mercedes , the transmission in bmw is made by ZF, in Mercedes is made by Mercedes(those are junk , compared to ZF)
@heinman62506 жыл бұрын
The Truth My uncle had a 2011 335i. The transmission broke when he floored it. The car didn’t have a lot of miles
@travelexplore97246 жыл бұрын
I don't say that transmission in BMW is not going to brake . It's gonna brake if you don't maintain car properly or if you abuse your car transmission. The problem with mercedes is you can take care of your car , like with an egg to don't brake it , and the car may not last too long ... Why airmatic in a lot of cars don't last more than 25 000 miles ? My GL first rear airmatic was replaced when the cars had 8000 miles on BOARD , can you believe ? and i bought the car brand new , and i drove very well ,and i avoided all patholes on the road ... and the car anyway had this problem . after 20 000 miles on board i started to fell a problem with 7Gtronic , the transmission started to have skid when i braked at stop sign i should wait at least 3-4 second to wait for car to switch to first gear to accelerate again.... THIS IS FUCKED UP CAR .... i was at Mercedes and the told me that i RUSH , and i need to wait 3-5 second when i stop at STOP SIGN for transimssion to switch again to first gear to accelerate again .... FUCK this .... My new G12 2017 BMW 740xi works amazing .... so far 80 000 miles NO ANY ISSUE and with this car i DRIVE SOMETIME in SPORT INDIVIDUAL , the only thing what i'm doing i change oil at every 5000 miles . And i changed the transmission fluid at 60 000 miles . THE CAR WORKS LIKE IS NEW ...
@KidJaeProductions6 жыл бұрын
Lekster777 ok I'll just keep driving my Lexus, and not break down.
@WestSide12076 жыл бұрын
Having owned both these cars- let me give my two cents: The BMW wins in the design department, hands down the better looking car. Similarly, the interior on the E38 is way nicer than the LS's. Driving an E38 M-Sport is also a much more engaging and fun drive than the Lexus, a great handling vehicle for a car so large. However, the Lexus wins in terms of reliability. Not even close on this one. Never one issue with the 1UZ-FE engine, and that car feels like it will stay running forever. Build quality feels pretty great for both cars. That's just my experience having owned both these cars for a couple years.
@PRNTestDrive6 жыл бұрын
We agree with you there! It's great to hear from someone who's had the chance to own both cars. We do our best to cover the important info about the cars we feature but it never compares with someone who actually lives with the car every day.
@WestSide12076 жыл бұрын
That timing chain guide issue I had on my 01 E38 still gives me nightmares... Then there was the time I had to fix the A/C. That was a overly complex job. Overall, I loved my E38, but it was the only car were I literally had nightmares about. I've heard similar stories with other E38 owners. I wish you much luck with your own, I hope all of them are owned by enthusiasts right now, because they're the only ones who will keep up with maintenance and keep the vehicles on the road.
@lessemo6 жыл бұрын
WestSide1207 dude are you a mafia boss to ow n both? 👀
@MohamedQureshi7 ай бұрын
But do not forget the Lexus rubber in the cabin, which cracks under the sun, as well as the ABS faults, and it actually looks like an imitation of a Mercedes car, may God protect you 🌺
@lapancaki65486 жыл бұрын
Personally, the Lexus wins for me!
@PRNTestDrive6 жыл бұрын
The Lexus has a lot going for it, that's why we wanted to put together this Showdown. We'd have loved to find an S-Class to film too.
@lapancaki65486 жыл бұрын
PRN - Perpetual Radio Networks I've had three and I know a guy who's had ten! W140s are great
@Kev27RS5 жыл бұрын
@@lapancaki6548 Yes, the W140 is a tank! Awesome cars!
@joebabyboy29182 жыл бұрын
Facts Lexus bro all day I want reliable sexy luxury and won’t brake my pocket when I have to fix LEXUS
@chargerrich6 жыл бұрын
In context the LS400 and 430 are arguably THE best cars ever engineered and are far more reliable than any BMW. The Lexus 1UZ-FE is a legendary engine.
@PRNTestDrive6 жыл бұрын
There's no doubt that these Lexus models are outstandingly reliable.
@azaz911c6 жыл бұрын
I like both of them: the Lexus for its smooth, warm and simple styling, like a cashmere sweater; the BMW for its sharp edged coolness, like a Hugo Boss suit. The BMW however is the more special of the two cars - the one that you want to wash and detail; the one you look forward to driving; the one that draws admiring looks and engenders greatest pride of ownership.
@PRNTestDrive6 жыл бұрын
Well said, that's how we feel too! We'd still wash and detail the Lexus though, we don't like dirty cars.
@crazye35726 жыл бұрын
A true poet right here
@Kev27RS5 жыл бұрын
Good comment! 👍 I really *love* LEXUS, but the 7-series looks way better and classier to be honest!
@joesinegal81674 жыл бұрын
And A Maintenance Bill For The BMW That Would Buy You Another Lexus That Would Easily Take You 500K Miles, While The BMW's Steel Is Being Recycled!
@tbirdboy4 жыл бұрын
We know the reliability of the Lexus is well above par vs the BMW. But with a crack mechanic or friendly German Indy you can have a sharp looking Bimmer that will always reward the driver. You'll never get that from any Lexus short of the F models of late.
@louisjames10626 жыл бұрын
7 series body with Lexus engine and mechanicals the perfect car
@PRNTestDrive6 жыл бұрын
That would certainly be a great combo!
@heinman62506 жыл бұрын
I bet the BMW can’t do 1,000,000 miles
@PRNTestDrive6 жыл бұрын
Ours probably wont, that's for sure.
@abepowers43796 жыл бұрын
or do 150K seeing the repair bay only once for a starter at 10yrs like my LS460.
@esiprecision75046 жыл бұрын
Oh yes it will...of course it will cost you at least 10% of that. LOl
@vk45de546 жыл бұрын
Oh... drop enough money on it, anything can.
@irisheart59206 жыл бұрын
FireBlade I bet neither can the ls. They might be reliable but a million miles is A LOT. I've owned a million mile benz (about 1.86 million km on the clock) and the thing was a barely running wreck. The LS might be more reliable overall but electronics aside the M73 in the E38 is bulletproof and mechanically extre.ely reliable and simple. The LS might get further but not by much. It's still a complicated and high tech luxobarge with over 20 years behind them.
@TenB33rs6 жыл бұрын
I have owned similar vehicles in both BMW and Lexus. (98 750il and 2001 Ls 430) and I can say both vehicles are very nice. The 750 was more performance oriented while the Lexus was more of a isolation chamber type experience. In my personal experience however the BMW was a nightmare in terms of reliability. Propitiatory engine management on the BMW meant a trip to the dealer every time the check engine light came on (which seemed like a weekly affair) and the cost of parts was exorbitant. The Lexus, on the other hand, was 100% reliable during the 5 years I owned it. Not one single issue whatsoever. So If you ask me....Winner is Lexus!
@PRNTestDrive6 жыл бұрын
There's absolutely no contest when it comes to reliability, the Lexus wins every time!
@wholeNwon5 жыл бұрын
Reliability = engineering and construction excellence.
@jankof765 жыл бұрын
All BS, Lexus cost way more money to maintain. 7 series parts are in abundance, eBay, amazon etc...I had the ls 430 and the suspension failed and the price $3200 to repair or convert. 7 series suspension less than $700
@glynngreenwood87886 жыл бұрын
I have owned Five older Lexus over the years, two 400's, a 2003 70 km LS430 Update and a 2003 43 km LS430 along with a SC430 and without any doubt the LS400 Update (5 speed) blows them all away. I have gone back to the LS400 because it fits me like a glove, is quiet, quick, smooth and elegant. It is stunningly reliable and unbelievably economical for a four litre V8 with almost 300 hp. My current car has almost 200 kms on it and drives like a near new car. Everything about it blows me away, the brakes are brilliant, the A/C and heating is great, the comfort is outstanding and the turning circle is like one from a small car. I have been watching the used car listings for five years to find a very low kilometre car to buy and keep forever. I've just found one with 45 kms and while it costs twice as much as others listed - I'm buying it because you just can't buy a better car for the money.
@PRNTestDrive6 жыл бұрын
These second gen facelift LS 400s are pretty amazing. We very rarely see them on the road out here, but we know the ones that are out there are well taken care of and loved. Lexus had some pretty incredible products in the 90s, and we're glad we can feature some of them on our show.
@wholeNwon5 жыл бұрын
I've had a 98 for 20 years and hope never to part with it. Strangers still ask me whether it might be for sale!
@AFluffyMobius6 жыл бұрын
Love both of these. Wanted an E38 ever since i knew about them a decade ago. The exterior AND interior styling of the E38 is much more striking. But currently own a LS 430 myself so i have to hand it to Lexus/Toyota. I need that refined cloud-like ride for racking up all those reliable highway miles. Great video!
@PRNTestDrive6 жыл бұрын
We loved the ride of the Lexus also, we've been very impressed with their entire lineup so far, we're hoping to get the chance to feature more of their older vehicles.
@JDYTC6 жыл бұрын
Whahaha no contest! The BMW is ten times more gorgeous! The Lexus is ten times more reliable and thereby probably also ten times cheaper to maintain. Pick your poison. Great vid as always. Kind regards from Amsterdam
@PRNTestDrive6 жыл бұрын
Thanks! That's what we found after doing the research on these cars, they both have their list of pros and cons and cater to different buyers. I think it's a great comparison for those reasons, the BMW is sportier and has the looks nailed down, but the Lexus can be a lot more reliable and comfortable.
@waverunner70636 жыл бұрын
More importantly, they were large rear-wheel drive cars. Something you couldn't get from Cadillac or Acura. It was the top end luxury car class.
@peakarach70516 жыл бұрын
Lexus is the best.
@PRNTestDrive6 жыл бұрын
We'll be featuring our first Acura on Monday, it's likely the least-popular model they ever produced but we have one.
@waverunner70636 жыл бұрын
Acura is a substandard brand that had potential. The Legend was a fine sedan except that it was front wheel drive. It still has a cult following today. But after the 1990's Acura went way downhill.
@wholeNwon6 жыл бұрын
I have a friend who owned the BMW (purchased new). He thought it was the "best" car ever made. Then the problems began. Eventually his wife refused to drive the thing fearing stranding (yet again). They never ask anymore how my '98 LS400 is doing. They know the answer. Like so many others, mine is still all original except for wear items like wiper blades and brake pads. I think the suspension comment you made refers to the air suspension models. If it ever fails, the starter is difficult to replace. IMHO, always avoid the dealers for "service". They tend to be hard on batteries and when even one cell becomes weak, all sorts of apparent electrical gremlins pop up (e.g. stability control or ABS errors or even engine management problems). Load test the battery and for diagnosis and replace it. All the "problems" disappear at once. I've been around a long time and the late LS400s and some of the LS430s are the best cars ever built anywhere. I've had experience with everything from Bentleys to Beetles. But I have not driven the Toyota Century...maybe some day.
@PRNTestDrive6 жыл бұрын
The LS 400s definitely last longer, there's no doubt about it. We went over the common problems with the Lexus in our Spotlight episode earlier this week, and we agree that the air suspension is definitely a problem. We did find quite a lot of discussion online about the regular suspension though, not breaking of causing problems, but just the cost to refresh it can be more than a Toyota Avalon for example. Either way as long as you're doing the service when it's required the car will last!
@mcgyverb16646 жыл бұрын
wholeNwon lol hey i don't want no woman driving my vehicle, I have a bimmer, and yes my girlfriend refused driving it, a bimmer is a drivers vehicle, if you can't wrench them, or afford maintenance, stick to Toyota lexus.
@wholeNwon6 жыл бұрын
Absolutely right! It's "a driver's car"....driving to the side of the road when it breaks down; driving to the dealership when it breaks down; driving to your German mechanic when it's out from warranty (if you were dumb enough to keep it that long) and it breaks down; driving to an off ramp (more like limping) when it's trying hard to kill you in high-speed traffic when something else fails.
@mcgyverb16646 жыл бұрын
wholeNwon any BMW driver that gets broken down on the roadside did not reach the the level of being a bimmer driver, a true bimmer driver is a person who knows the vehicle from its engine, all the way down to its tail pipe muffler, my bimmer never left me in the streets, never, for every bimmer driver that calls a tow truck should get bitch slapped for simply ignoring routine maintenance, and a bimmer driver should have well over $5,000 in pocket should warranty runs out, and no bimmer driver should buy any aftermarket warranty, because they are all scams, no bimmer driver should go to a BMW dealership for service unless it's backed by BMW warranty, and like I said earlier preventative maintenance, and schedule routine maintenance BMW will be as reliable just like a lexus.
@johnd46976 жыл бұрын
learn to stay away from BMW guys the end
@gst69man6 жыл бұрын
just sold my 1996 ls 400 after owning it for 19 years. 95k miles and a great car. original sticker was $89k+,
@PRNTestDrive6 жыл бұрын
Only 95k miles! That's pretty low, hopefully you got a good price for it.
@j0nnY77x6 жыл бұрын
I recently had to choose between these two for my first car but I went with the 7 series.Its been a wild ride with the power steering leaks,coolant reservoir cracking and the right rear window no longer opening but they were fixed with the help of my dad and uncle.Its been fine with the only thing left to replace is the fog lamps.If you like the attention it does get looks and is very unique to the point people at work tell me they have seen me driving around certain parts of town and the driving experience is amazing as well.
@PRNTestDrive6 жыл бұрын
Glad you were able to work on your car yourself! It definitely helps to offset the cost of maintenance, but that goes for any car. Congrats on the E38 purchase!
@AdamAus856 жыл бұрын
Man those E39/E38 interiors are hard to beat. I've had 2 E39s and it's very impressive how well they hold up visually and quality wise.
@PRNTestDrive6 жыл бұрын
We agree with that! We've driven the W210 and W140 Mercedes E and S-Classes and find that they feel dated in the inside when compared with the equivalent BMW. Lexus also had a pretty decent interior, a little more future friendly than Mercedes.
@imty87746 жыл бұрын
I'm a bmw fanboy but lexus' reliability is just impeccable. I mean there are so many of these where I live that parts are dirt cheap (used obv). But man you can beat the living hell out of these cars and these just won't die. Plus the weather here sometimes reaches up to 50°C and the car just keeps going.
@PRNTestDrive6 жыл бұрын
50º, that's crazy! We're lucky it doesn't get that hot around here, but we always worry about our BMW when the weather gets hot.
@imty87746 жыл бұрын
PRN - Perpetual Radio Networks yea the weather really kills anything that's not either a toyota or a nissan.
@PRNTestDrive6 жыл бұрын
Definitely true!
@mechanicandi10645 жыл бұрын
Team Lexus 😎
@PRNTestDrive5 жыл бұрын
Username checks out!
@bestpilot985 жыл бұрын
Love this video series! I have always thought that the E38 7s are very handsome cars. Timeless style!
@PRNTestDrive5 жыл бұрын
We're glad you liked it, thanks! We've been fortunate enough to film a number of Showdowns like this with older luxury cars. I'd love to focus on it more if I could get the cars lined up.
@JuniorLexus66926 жыл бұрын
BMW now stands for "bring more water" because they are spontaniously catching on fire!!
@PRNTestDrive6 жыл бұрын
I won't lie, we're not fully confident with the engine's coolant system during hot days on the BMW.
@bangmona84495 жыл бұрын
Precise comment.🤩
@derkaiser27333 жыл бұрын
I have 218k miles now on my bmw (750 e38) and never had any big problems 😅
@PRNTestDrive3 жыл бұрын
I'm glad to hear that, I hope it continues to serve you well!
@orangejuiceneggs6 жыл бұрын
I almost got both at different times but ended up with neither, the 7series I remember the exhaust sounding so sporty and making a U turn and it taking the turn so easily, plus it had power. The LS I really wanted, it was the polo green color and the leather still smelled new even though it was 7 years old at the time, miles was about 80k maybe lesser. I would take the Lexus hands down, it was just so quiet and had power on tap. If it wasn’t for the salesman playing around with the price I would had gotten it.
@PRNTestDrive6 жыл бұрын
That's unfortunate you didn't end up with either! We'd have loved to see these cars when they were new.
@orangejuiceneggs6 жыл бұрын
PRN - Perpetual Radio Networks Oh it is cool because I ended up with a updated 430 and love it
@PRNTestDrive6 жыл бұрын
That's great then! Can't go wrong there.
@jimmy92goodwin6 жыл бұрын
Absolutely superb review, the conclusion was perfectly weighted and spot on. Great reviews as always, as a video editor by day I appreciate the time and effort that goes into making a video for people! Don't listen to complaints or criticisms, keep it up
@PRNTestDrive6 жыл бұрын
We really appreciate that, thanks! We always work to improve our videos each time we go to film, edit, and publish, and we think we really got everything right with this Showdown. We've got a lot of great stuff planned for the new year!
@Tonyx.yt.6 жыл бұрын
i prefer the lexus but maybe with another body color, this color looks like dirty and aged light grey paint but why bmw have 750 badge, reminds me people with an 116d and M stickers lol, also does turn signals works on old bmw? because i never see them in action
@Inflator826 жыл бұрын
Tony x Where do you see 750 badge?
@PRNTestDrive6 жыл бұрын
I apologize if the two shots we used of the 2000 750iL we filmed earlier this year were confusing, however we included them as reference to the turn indicator lights, as they would have been amber had we had a comparable 1999 740i.
@Tonyx.yt.6 жыл бұрын
ok, i saw750 badge and i assumed that you put a fake badge on 740IL
@tropicalstorm3396 жыл бұрын
De Bo talk about hater...
@Harolds06 жыл бұрын
Trying so hard to be funny
@BryanChance6 жыл бұрын
I'll take both. -;) one for Saturday and one for Sunday driving.
@PRNTestDrive6 жыл бұрын
There ya go! Perfect answer.
@russelllange20376 жыл бұрын
Both are two of my favorite cars to look at, few sedans can compare to these two. The LS400 in the video already has aftermarket wheels, it would look better with larger wheels with lower profile tires. That would also help with the handling feel but take away a bit of ride comfort. Not all LS400s had the Nak unit, if this car had one and an owner removed it then that's a real shame.
@PRNTestDrive6 жыл бұрын
The LS 400 in this episode was on its winter tires, it does still have it's larger OEM rims for summer. As for the original head unit, it's my understanding that it was no longer functional, so the owner replaced it with something aftermarket rather than search a working used part.
@trianggaindralukmana21846 жыл бұрын
BMW is only worth when new, when get older get rid of it, meanwhile lexus is worth when you use it for long time, lexus never let you stranded alone on street
@PRNTestDrive6 жыл бұрын
It's certainly true that the Lexus will be more reliable overall, there's do doubt.
@trianggaindralukmana21846 жыл бұрын
Perpetual Radio Networks actually breakdown frequency of BMW will make people get rid of. With advance in lathe, cnc, and information, is not hard rebuild broken parts today than past. But as ex owner says, you fix this, another parts will waiting to fix and multiply of break downs with downtime make u frustating and give up
@papatorr36696 жыл бұрын
I'm not hating on you guys, the video is well done. But the valid comparisons might include a Jaguar or Mercedes vs the BMW. The Lexus 400 marked the end for GM and Ford, and did eat Mercede's lunch in the luxury category. The Lexus is simply in its own category, the smoothest, quietest, most comfortable, and most reliable, etc., ad nauseum. Perhaps comparing the 400 to a pro grade sewing machine or a Honda Goldwing might make for a closer competition. The others have "character and personality." If you have double the money over a 200,000 miles ownership, and if you don't mind inferior build and material quality... go for the additional "character and personality." As for me, I have or do own cars rated the top three most reliable: Lexus, Porsche, and Toyota in order from most to least! And I do own and love my most expensive to maintain 2003 BMW 330 cic, so don't hate on me too much! LOL.
@PRNTestDrive6 жыл бұрын
We're hoping to be able to produce videos on the competing Jaguar as well as the W140 Mercedes S-Class.
@cobra2top6 жыл бұрын
Great comparison! Both cars I am interested in. I had their little brothers in the past, a 2001 540ia and a 1998 GS400. Both great cars, the BMW was the driver and the Lexus was just comfy but so reliable. Looking for a highway cruiser to take kids to sports and keep some miles off my truck. Would love to hear your thoughts on a direct comparison, 2001 Lexus LS430 against the 2001 BMW 740iL. The one on my list is a 2001-06 LS430 with the Ultra Luxury package. Seems a better comparison. The Ultra Lux package has better rear seat options more in line with the 740iL. One thing though, that long wheelbase is NICE and keeps me thinking as my kids only get bigger. Still searching!
@PRNTestDrive6 жыл бұрын
We might get some hate for comparing the 01 LS 430 against the E38, we received quite a lot of negative comments on our E38 vs W220 video for that reason, however I do agree with you that the back seats are pretty limited on the UCF20 but were improved with the 3rd generation. We'll see what we can do about a Showdown on it! Great thing about the E38 is it's always available for us to film, so if we find an LS 430 we can easily make it happen.
@cobra2top6 жыл бұрын
That would be awesome! I hear the LS430 is "the Lexus" to have. Very reliable and the most comfortable even by today's standards. I enjoy your reviews. Keep it up!!
@waverunner70636 жыл бұрын
These generations of LS, 7-Series, and W140 S-Class represent the best era in automotive design at any point in history. They are my 3 favorite sedans of all time. I do have a Car And Driver magazine from April 1998 where they tested these 3 in addition to Audi A8 and Jaguar XJ8. LS400 won first place because of the stunning quality and value. 7-Series was a close second due to performance and driving dynamics. The value gap on each has closed and they are and have been similar in price in the used car market in the US. Seems Canadians prefer the 7 Series though and I think they are more prevalent there. Be warned should you decide to buy one, you will have to set aside a fund to maintain and upkeep. Even the ultra reliable LS400 needs new parts over time. In the Washington DC metro area the LS, 7, and S are a dime a dozen including 90's era models. People will spend the money to keep them on the road and are rarely crushed unless totaled in an accident. Anyway, thanks for the side by side comparison. It is refreshing to know there are many other enthusiasts who appreciate these fine cars.
@PRNTestDrive6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment! We agree that these cars really are the pinnacle of design for these manufacturers. We're hoping to be able to film a similar Audi A8L within the next few months, and the S-Class is the #1 request from viewers, and our #1 wanted vehicle on our website. We'd love to do a comparison like that Car & Driver magazine, I think it would be really awesome to see the full range of vehicles all together again after 20 years.
@Dragunov3026 жыл бұрын
wave runner I do prefer the 2007 LS over it but this is acceptable
@waverunner70636 жыл бұрын
2007 LS is the ugliest one ever made especially the interior. Critics hated it too. But overall not a bad car, just not a good replacement for the legendary LS430.
@PRNTestDrive6 жыл бұрын
Our W140 S 600 video is online now! kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rbRoo6Wll6vIeaM.html
@Kev27RS5 жыл бұрын
Good comment! Agree! 👍
@wyzmaro9774 Жыл бұрын
I have 280,000 miles on my 1999 LS400. I've found that The suspension parts are cheaper if you by them yourself and then price the labor out to different shops. Big O Tire wanted to charge me $1800 to replace the two lower A-Arms which come in 4 parts-two per side. I can buy all 4 for a direct replacement for $300 and get a shop to put it on for a couple hundred dollars. I've already replaced the top Arms, End Links, and had the Transmission fluid changed and filter cleaned. Next I am getting a new power steering air control valve because when I start my car a puff on white smoke comes out and the Heater control valve then I'm done. I will be putting BC Racing Coil Overs, Drilled and Slotted Rotors, Wheels, and a Vinyl Wrap.
@PRNTestDrive Жыл бұрын
Hope it keeps working out for you, hold onto it if you can!
@vongtaing60596 жыл бұрын
The Lexus LS400 is the most reliable cars on earth.
@PRNTestDrive6 жыл бұрын
If you’re commenting to complain that the Showdown isn’t fair due to the BMW being a long wheelbase, then you didn’t watch the entire episode.
@PRNTestDrive6 жыл бұрын
Also we entered the Length of each vehicle instead of the Wheelbase, our apologies for that.
@lightsurfer57216 жыл бұрын
You cannot compare pure garbage to a well made car.
@MrMalzers6 жыл бұрын
You should of compared an 01 lexus to the 01 bmw. 01 Lexus is completely redone with updated tech.
@100productionsinc.26 жыл бұрын
The ls400 first arrived in 1989 all the way to 2000.
@eleonik766 жыл бұрын
You do NOT compare two premium vehicles from two different years man!! To throw 99 LS just before a major facelift vs facelifted 7 series is unforgivable. You lost me right here.
@gary55126 жыл бұрын
Lexus hands down had a 90 and own a 97 great classic cars had 93 7 series what a headache that was
@PRNTestDrive6 жыл бұрын
The Lexus' definitely seem to be the ones to get if you want a trouble-free ownership experience.
@lightsurfer57216 жыл бұрын
BMW = king of money pit kingdom Lexus= king of real quality
@johnd46976 жыл бұрын
yup STAY AWAY FROM BMW
@jamiecox22566 жыл бұрын
Quality wise, the BMW can't compete because it's over engineered thus requiring more maintenance.....whilst the Lexus is basic in engineering, but excels in quality due to not being over engineered! I own a 7 and 3 series. So I should now!
@PRNTestDrive6 жыл бұрын
While the Lexus might not be over-engineering, we still loved how well designed everything was. Some cars, one which we'll be featuring on Monday, have buttons placed where ever they fit, but Lexus seems to have a really good formula for their interiors. That's one of the reasons we're fascinated by these cars.
@jamiecox22566 жыл бұрын
PRN - Perpetual Radio Networks Keep those good videos coming brother!
@MatrixDiscovery6 жыл бұрын
LOL...engineered...that's the biggest pile of BS I have ever seen. They made it over-complicated.
@jamiecox22566 жыл бұрын
smasila BMW even admits their cars are over engineered!
@MalamIbnMalam6 жыл бұрын
Jamie Cox, you said they are over-engineered.....Over-engineered in what way back then? Can you explain? It's one thing to make a comment without explaining how it's "exactly over-engineered".
@tunnelsnakesmedia6 жыл бұрын
I'm devoted to Toyota, but if I've ever where to buy a bmw of sorts, this beautiful 7 series would be it. They are both timeless looking vehicles.
@PRNTestDrive6 жыл бұрын
Agreed! The 7 Series has one of the best designs BMW ever used.
@GRDSHK5 жыл бұрын
I have a 1997 LS400 Coach Edition w/ factory Coilover instead of air. It handles really well despite the “washy” feeling near center of the steering, once you get used to the car it’s very predictable and usable in a spirited manner of driving.
@PRNTestDrive5 жыл бұрын
Very cool! Hold onto it if you can, those are hard to come by these days.
@dubaicentripetal783911 ай бұрын
E38 is authority on the road !! Nothing can beat it’s stance !!
@PRNTestDrive11 ай бұрын
Definitely is! I loved my time with this car.
@mhtube01 Жыл бұрын
I own a 99 740i M Sport and I love it. It's such an engaging car to drive and one of the greatest automotive designs in history. There's no denying it can be an expensive car to own though. However, if you're buying one, I think you go in accepting that. I love the LS400 too though, it's a great car in every way. Simple design that looks good and unmatched reliability. It's a car that I would put far more trust in for daily driving and road trips than the BMW. All in all I think it depends what you're looking for. The E38 seems to be the more special, hot ticket car right now but I think the LS400 is catching up. It has it in all of the right departments and the history of how it started the Lexus brand is very interesting. I'd love to own one someday in addition to my E38.
@PRNTestDrive Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing! Both cars are great, owning either is a pleasure.
@zacharyparis6 жыл бұрын
so you'd buy the 7 series because you will get more attention from BMW fan boys?
@wholeNwon5 жыл бұрын
Silly reason to buy a car (or anything else), right? Lots of insecure people out there. You can find them at the side of the road waiting for the tow truck.
@shukeelc51772 жыл бұрын
I've had both cars and both were amazing. The Lexus however probably had the edge for ultimate comfort and luxury
@andrewthompsonuk16 жыл бұрын
I have a 96 740 that I have owned for 15 years. It has been fairly reliable considering it has 205000 miles on it. There is something very likable about these cars. I agree it's a good DIY choice. I am always replacing suspension parts. Some parts have worn our multiple times
@PRNTestDrive6 жыл бұрын
Very nice! 205k mi is pretty good on that, it's usually around the age like ours where a lot of things start needing work. Hopefully you're able to get some work done it it too!
@noobiesnacks16366 жыл бұрын
What would be an acceptable mileage car to purchase for everyday use? ( I have my eye on a 2007 LS 460 with 127k Miles) Thanks and great video!
@PRNTestDrive6 жыл бұрын
We haven't looked much into the third generation LS yet, however we've found a common trend with the Lexus vehicles in that they're incredibly well built and suffer from few issues. Preventative maintenance is key though, so a vehicle like that 2007 needs to have it's service records, like oil changes, suspension work, timing belt/chain and water pump. We've found that Lexus vehicles need to have the oil changed regularly to avoid any sludge build up, but 127k isn't that bad for this age of car. Definitely have it looked at by a trusted mechanic though!
@Maherattar6 жыл бұрын
Only Lexus
@Alltracavenger6 жыл бұрын
Very good video without bias, and a fair comparison of both cars. That's a very refreshing take! I owned a '99 740iL with around 230K miles on it in 2011. I owned a '95 LS400 a couple of years ago for several months; it left enough of an impression on me to pick up my current daily a few months ago, a '99 LS400 with 195K. Additionally, I owned an E34 540i/6 for a few years, so I have a little more ownership experience with the M60/M62 than I do the 1UZFE. That said, I completely agree that the E38 and UCF20 have their good and bad points. For the E38, I liked the interior layout better than the LS400. However, I've noticed that the LS400's interior appears to wear better than the E38; under average care the plastics/compartments/etc tend to hold up better and there is this air of 'everything works more or less as intended'. Another plus point of the E38 is the handling; there is much less body roll while still maintaining a composed, comfortable ride. The LS400 is very 'wallowy' especially around town and on mountain roads(I live in Colorado, so I do have an excellent choice of back roads to blast on). It's a very composed car on the highway and can handle high-speed sweepers, but doesn't really present itself as something you'd want to be spirited with on the backroads. In contrast, the E38 felt like a much smaller car in the handling department and was competent enough to have a little fun in. Both the E38 and '99 LS400 feel about the same acceleration-wise; the LS400's lighter weight definitely helps here. Oddly enough the E38 got slightly better fuel economy; I was able to average 31mpg on a full highway trip while the LS400 averaged 29mpg on the same trip. I'm primarily a fan of manual transmissions and don't particularly like automatics. However the 5-speed autos on both the E38 and '99 LS400 were perfectly responsive, with a possible edge to the LS400. The 4-speed A340E in the '95 felt sluggish and unresponsive in comparison; I drove around in sport mode most of the time to get it to kick down when I wanted it to. The 5-speed A560E in the '99 is a different story. I haven't touched sport mode except for a couple of times to see if it made a difference; it does but not enough to feel like it's necessary unless I want to hoon a 3700lb luxobarge. :D Where I will break off is the ease of service and cost of repairs/maintenance. The LS400 has a few flaws as was pointed out in the video; the front suspension components do get eaten up, the timing belt/water pump replacement at 90K is costly(the indy I go to has quoted me $1200; dealer cost is about $1500), and the starter replacement is about as involved as an M60/M62 valley pan gasket job(which I've done before, real big fun there!). However, in comparison to what I handled collectively on my E34 and E38 those feel relatively minor. On the E38 I had the transmission lock up on me in 2nd gear at one point, which essentially scared me out of the car. I also had a water pump blow up on me, leaving me stranded. As I didn't really have the facilities to DIY those, shop costs were definitely up there. On my E34 I was constantly chasing down vacuum leaks and running issues after the valley pan gasket replacement job. At the end of the day it was unfortunately totaled and helped fund my weekend car('88 Celica GT-Four). The LS400 is definitely a car that you can DIY on; I won't touch the timing belt job but I handled most of the general maintenance(fluids, plugs, filters, and the VVTi OCVs that decided to take a powder) relatively easily. The OCVs are the only actual repair I've had to do to the car, and that took me maybe an hour and a half to take care of. At the end of the day the E38 is still one of those timeless classics that I'm glad I got to cross off my list of cars to own. I loved the styling and the driving experience. Playing chauffeur with the girl I was dating at the time and her friends to special events was a wonderful memory, amongst others. However, with one high-maintenance unicorn in my stable with nearly impossible to locate parts and the fact I want another late-'80s turbocharged Toyota, it's probably best that I stick with the LS400 to waft down the road in reliable comfort that will allow the ST165/MA70 combo I've wanted for years to rip my wallet apart whenever they so desire.
@PRNTestDrive6 жыл бұрын
Very well said, and thanks! We've been accused of bias before when comparing the E38, but it usually comes from people who don't agree with what we end up finding. The LS 400 is definitely a great car, and the one you have sounds like it should have plenty of life in it still!
@mombinionfiniau85786 жыл бұрын
So unfortunate that you have only 7k... I subscribeb, and i hope you will hit 10.000 very soon
@PRNTestDrive6 жыл бұрын
We hope so too, thanks! We're aiming for 10k by spring.
@ThePerfectionOfLexus4 жыл бұрын
I hear you say in your original video review for the Lexus, that the sound insulation is really good. I have an e38 735i, and I'm considering trading it in for this Lexus, though I haven't driven the Lexus yet. How was this car compared to your e38 in terms of sound insulation, is it quieter or about the same ?
@PRNTestDrive4 жыл бұрын
Quieter for sure, Lexus really had their sights set on the S-Class when they were building the LS, and you can feel that they got really close to the same level of ride, comfort, and sound levels that you'd get on an S-Class. The BMW isn't bad at all, but with a more sport-oriented approach the sound control wasn't a priority for BMW.
@ThePerfectionOfLexus4 жыл бұрын
@@PRNTestDrive Thanks for the reply. My e38 735i from 2000 has the dual pane windows (S352A) and almost all the other features that the 750i had back then, and all from the factory. Would you say even compared with the 750i e38 you've reviewed a few years back, despite it having the dual pane windows, that the Lexus is much quieter?
@travelingwithrick6 жыл бұрын
The LS 400 is the best most reliable luxury sedan ever put into production. A beamer is a nice car but if you like electronic issues and unreliability overall, the BMW is your car.
@PRNTestDrive6 жыл бұрын
We'd agree, and I think we made that general point in this episode.
@FrightfulAccountant5 жыл бұрын
That BMW 7-series was hard to beat, on of the last great BMWs! but take the next gen 7-series and the Lexus wins hands down!
@PRNTestDrive5 жыл бұрын
We had the pleasure of featuring a 2004 Lexus LS 430 recently, definitely has a lot going for it!
@troysmith90076 жыл бұрын
lexus way better
@majaro80376 жыл бұрын
LEXUS😍💪🏻💪🏻
@Forge176 жыл бұрын
Not sure if Canada got them, but the Infiniti q45 was a great sporty alternative to the LS. The late 90s model was a bit of a performance dud but the original 1990 and 2002 model onwards were top class sport luxury cars. Plus the newer has a turning radius like a golf cart
@PRNTestDrive6 жыл бұрын
We should have gotten them up here, but finding one might be hard. I can count on one hand how many I've seen on the road.
@1040heart4 жыл бұрын
BMW is reliable as hell, mine is at 250k and no leaks and no smoke whatsoever, original m62 engine and everything just regularly maintained. I have a 2000 BMW 740i
@1040heart4 жыл бұрын
I think theyre pretty much equal except I like the style of BMW a lot more, that Lexus looks kinda, like a blob
@PRNTestDrive4 жыл бұрын
Glad to hear yours is running well for you!
@walih1236 жыл бұрын
Subscribed i love this channel
@PRNTestDrive6 жыл бұрын
We appreciate that, thank you!
@alexmercer8042 Жыл бұрын
Well bear in mind Lexus LS in the US is spartan compared to its C F package in Japan (Toyota Celsior). It was bundled to us taste and to sell with minimal fuss and options to be added as supposedly it came "loaded". Well not compared to other versions around the world though.
@muchosa16 жыл бұрын
I have a 1999 Lexus GS400 and still drives great. Repairs are cheaper because you can use Toyota parts for some stuff. Paint is hurting though.
@PRNTestDrive6 жыл бұрын
Very nice! Paint definitely can be a tricky one, we've seen some around here with rough paint also.
@sonyhk38246 жыл бұрын
Lexus i like to. Thanks
@PRNTestDrive6 жыл бұрын
So do we! They're great cars, but just different from the BMW.
@Acekg19116 жыл бұрын
Wait, I may have missed it, but why not the 2001 LS430? Updated design, and 4.3L engine. More comparable no?
@PRNTestDrive6 жыл бұрын
We made that mistake when we filmed the 2000 Mercedes-Benz S500 against our 2001 BMW 740iL, we had many complaints that the BMW was too old, despite the fact it was a model year newer than the Benz. We've had a few comments now to film this along-side the UCF30 and we will try to make that video happen, but this generation LS 400 was produced from 1995 to 2000, the BMW was from 1995 to 2001, so from a generation perspective these two are the most comparable flagships.
@t.l.robinson21623 жыл бұрын
It is really something how I saw this video. I just bought a 2006 LS 430 for my daughter to drive. She will NOT be driving my E-38.
@PRNTestDrive3 жыл бұрын
The Lexus is definitely a good choice! We had the pleasure to feature that generation a few years ago.
@mercedesbenzs600bash5 жыл бұрын
Great detailed information my man,your a pro at this,one question though,did any of the LS400s come with heated and cooled seats???
@PRNTestDrive5 жыл бұрын
Thank you, I appreciate that! Heated seats should have been on all the Lexus models as an option, however I believe the succeeding generation LS would have been the first to offer ventilated seats.
@emeyer69636 жыл бұрын
Had a 1995 LS400 and was very impressed with it.Never had a problem with it in 136000 miles.Cheap to maintain too.
@PRNTestDrive6 жыл бұрын
Glad to hear it! And that seems to be consistent with these older Lexus models, very few problems, affordable maintenance, and never stuck on the side of the road.
@Billy-qx4db5 жыл бұрын
136k? That's just a warm up for a Lexus
@sintoten30493 жыл бұрын
Great video
@PRNTestDrive3 жыл бұрын
Glad you think so, thanks!
@Silence.935 жыл бұрын
Lexus ls 🔥👑
@wdb210sbenz83 жыл бұрын
تحبه حار شكلك
@andrewvillanueva42226 жыл бұрын
Lexus vehicles are rock solid. My LEXUS ls430 2001 Has 276000 miles with original starter and alternator. My Lexus ls460l 2007 has 155000 miles. Another beautiful car!!!!!
@PRNTestDrive6 жыл бұрын
Very nice! Both are definitely going to last a while for you.
@orangejuiceneggs6 жыл бұрын
Andrew Villanueva oohhh buddy, but wait till you do have to replace the starter, its not even funny. Cost about $900 unless you do it yourself or know a cheaper place to take it. Its just the location where it is that makes so tough to change.
@andrewvillanueva42226 жыл бұрын
orangejuiceneggs it would cost 900.00 the starter 150.00. Labor 100.00. You are crazy. I do my own oil changes and brakes. Brake pad a 30.00. The BMW cannt stand next in Lexus ls430 in reliability and parts.
@orangejuiceneggs6 жыл бұрын
Andrew Villanueva Look up gs400 starter replacement here on yt. its a bear of a job being its located under the manifold.
@andrewvillanueva42226 жыл бұрын
orangejuiceneggs my mechanic already did valve gaskets on my ls460l 2007. I know if I buy the part he will not charge me more that 100.00. My starter and alternator in my Lexus ls430 2001 are running like a champ nothing is wrong 276000 miles and counting. Every mechanic said my car will easily go over 300000 miles. Can any new BMW vehicles be that reliable.
@StuartOliver833 жыл бұрын
Owned an e38 and I'm about to own an ls.. BMW has it in looks but I can't bare the maintenance that I'm used to so I'll try the Lexus and get back to you
@PRNTestDrive3 жыл бұрын
You'll definitely enjoy the Lexus!
@StuartOliver833 жыл бұрын
@@PRNTestDrive thanks buddy 👍🏻🇬🇧
@MidwestDIY6 жыл бұрын
That Lexus most likely will start and drive everytime on original parts for 30+ years, I probably will take BMW if I were to work on it myself or it is second car (have first car if/when this won't work and need repair)
@PRNTestDrive6 жыл бұрын
That's certainly true. I think we'd do the same if we were in a similar position.
@corporateslave72926 жыл бұрын
Lexus still probably drives like new car..
@PRNTestDrive6 жыл бұрын
Aside from the vague steering (which is normal), it really did drive like a newer car would/does.
@trustyoungpierre99592 жыл бұрын
I’d own both cars. They both are winners!
@PRNTestDrive2 жыл бұрын
Can't go wrong with either one!
@alexellsworth44156 жыл бұрын
I appreciate the effort put into this video, but when I watch a car comparison, I want and expect to hear about the nuanced differences in the driving experience and handling. Instead, I got a detailed analysis of the domelights.
@valeriepickens25335 жыл бұрын
It's funny seeing the prices you posted on the 740 il. I bought mine at 140,000 miles for six hundred dollars,...and drove it from Boise to Topeka two days after I bought it.
@PRNTestDrive5 жыл бұрын
Can't go wrong with that! Prices here for used cars have always been a lot higher than in the US, unfortunately we just have less to choose from meaning ask prices are usually higher.
@valeriepickens25335 жыл бұрын
@@PRNTestDrive it had the timing chain guides go out, and wouldn't start yesterday,..but I have a mechanic nearby with a rebuilt M62tu. He said he would swap the motors for five grand. After seeing what you pay for one,..I took him up on the deal. Can't wait until she's back on the road. Even the front cup holder works like new.
@PRNTestDrive5 жыл бұрын
Rebuilt engine could be a good route to go, especially if all the maintenance is basically done on it. Hope it works out well for you!
@wrussi6 жыл бұрын
for 99 the lexus LS400 had optional massaging and reclining rear seats. with remote audio controls BTW
@PRNTestDrive6 жыл бұрын
Do you have a link for that? We didn't find any information about that during our research, at least for North American models.
@BonioEQ6 жыл бұрын
not ucf30? i dont hear about massaging but AC controls in armrest yes
@GENTILJEN6 жыл бұрын
Personally I would take the BMW because there a WOW factor to it compare to the Lexus that looks very conservative. The 740 is timeless 😍
@PRNTestDrive6 жыл бұрын
Well said!
@christiankonig64996 жыл бұрын
Jennifer Gentil,still in love
@GENTILJEN6 жыл бұрын
christian König always 😍
@GENTILJEN6 жыл бұрын
Master Yoda (love your username btw) I do believe that every cars have their plus and minus so yes I do agree with you that perhaps the reliability of the BMW 740 2001 is not like the Lexus but I cannot move on from the fact that the Lexus look so unattractive and outdated. Anyway everybody has their hearts set on something and mine is on that sexy BMW 😍
@christiankonig64996 жыл бұрын
Jennifer Gentil , BMW stands for (B)reak (M)y (W)allet, but true love must endure that!
@wholeNwon5 жыл бұрын
A '98 LS400 has been my daily driver for 21 years....glorious years. Perhaps that starter will fail some day and, yes, I do know where it's (unfortunately) located. But it hasn't failed yet, so I'm happy.
@PRNTestDrive5 жыл бұрын
We're glad to hear that, hopefully it continues to be problem free for you!
@H0LDENSUX6 жыл бұрын
A drag race between the Lexus and the BMW would of been nice.
@PRNTestDrive6 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately we didn't film them together, they were about 800km apart.
@H0LDENSUX6 жыл бұрын
No problems. Perhaps a 0-60 mp/h test on each car just to see how healthy they each are against the original OEM specs.
@PRNTestDrive6 жыл бұрын
We do normally feature a quick speed test in the Spotlight episodes but we don't have any accurate ways to measure 0-60 consistently.
@craigchance76436 жыл бұрын
The bmw would win hands down. There is no need to wonder lol
@H0LDENSUX6 жыл бұрын
I do wonder because if you watch the 745i in this video kzfaq.info/get/bejne/g85hptSf2rCUkoU.html it had electrical issues so big that it's the most hated BMW in America.
@quota77 Жыл бұрын
I was hoping there would be an in-depth comparison about the handling/ride/performance differences
@danwilkerson99486 жыл бұрын
BMW stands for broke my wallet
@stanleyhoward18935 жыл бұрын
Bring More Wrenches
@shtupidmate3 жыл бұрын
Barbarian Motor Works Barely Moving Wreck Beats Merely Walking Big Money Waster Bring Mechanic With Broke Man Walking Burning Melting Wreck
@jamesislandfishing67676 жыл бұрын
I would prefer the bmw only because the interior doesn't look like a 99 Camry. I would choose The Lexus engine tho
@PRNTestDrive6 жыл бұрын
I think a lot of people would agree with you!
@Kev27RS5 жыл бұрын
I really *love* LEXUS, but the 7-series looks way better and classier than this LS gen' to be honest!
@PRNTestDrive5 жыл бұрын
Lexus has the reliability aspect down solid, the styling wasn't quite as important for them in the 90s.
@skidsallday13285 жыл бұрын
Lexus all the way
@ShannonFLHI6 жыл бұрын
I owned a 1990 Lexus and now own a 2000 BMW 740i. For reliability get the Lexus. For fun to drive , get the BMW. If you want to have more of your $$$ for family vacations, your 401K plan or your bank acct, that darn Toyota product (Lexus) is the best bet. As I write this, I want you guys to know that my BMW is down again :-( . This time it's a major maintenance. Timing chains/ guides kit has been ordered and I'll be doing the work myself to save the labor fees. Hahaha. The jokes on me because my daily driver is a 2002 Tacoma Pre-runner 2-7L.
@PRNTestDrive6 жыл бұрын
We love our E38, but we're also quite happy not to be relying on it anymore as a daily driver. Hopefully you can get the TCG sorted out, it's a project we'd love to tackle ourselves!
@savagepizza20276 жыл бұрын
I actually like the pre facelift e38 more!
@PRNTestDrive6 жыл бұрын
A lot of people do too! More of a traditional BMW styling with the rectangular headlights, especially if you're a fan of the E36 3-Series.
@TheSpiker4sure5 жыл бұрын
Interestingly I owned both of these. There is simply no comparison. The BMW is far superior. For those talking about reliability or long term life, the BMW was far less costly when I added up all maintenance and repairs. The LS had a timing belt replacement every 100k and I sold both at just over 200k miles. Today I'm approaching 200k on an Audi A8L that has also proven less costly than the Lexus. My main complaint with the LS was with regards to replacing the front suspension components at a cost of $1200 every 80k or so. That combined with the timing belt costs and it was EXPENSIVE. Also, who designs an engine with the alternator below the power steering pump and to change the starter we had to remove the intake manifold. Come on Lexus, this is ridiculous. Also, after driving the LS for 6 years the styling became really boring. My choice? The Audi A8L hands down.
@PRNTestDrive5 жыл бұрын
We're hoping we get the chance to feature an A8L from this era, was always a top car for us in our books.
@adamharris26744 жыл бұрын
If you compared 93 Lexus LS 400 versus a 2011 BMW, almost the same exact things would be said
@PRNTestDrive4 жыл бұрын
Can't argue there.
@MrStevenAttila6 жыл бұрын
Oh boy, those beige colors looks much better than todays colors. :D
@PRNTestDrive6 жыл бұрын
We do like the two-tone paint, helps to add some character to that beige.
@SVTJayJay3 жыл бұрын
I’m from Texas and like how the Canadian LS400s have headlight washers. How hard would it to find a rust free ls400 in Canada
@PRNTestDrive3 жыл бұрын
Tough, but not entirely impossible. I'd look at vehicles from British Columbia as they have very light winters and the cars out there rarely rust. I know rust-free examples exist in Ontario but those are mostly low-mileage ones that are being held on to by original owners.
@JuniorLexus66926 жыл бұрын
Japanese cars age like fine wine while German cars age like milk with a early experation date...Lexus has a better resale value compared to a BMW because out of warranty no one wants to deal with a German car problems thats why you can get a used one so cheap even a Mercedes AMG.
@davissilvestrs19966 жыл бұрын
If you actually watched the video you'd know that used BMW 740i's have depreciated way better than the Lexus LS.
@donaldj.trumpfromthetrench88496 жыл бұрын
M50B25 Turbo because it's a special model. The rest is dirt cheap
@MarcusAureliusSeneca6 жыл бұрын
Are these cars drive-by-wire? How was the throttle response in both (from the moment you push the pedal down by 1 milimeter to the moment the engine revs) - is there a delay, if so, in which car s the delay more pronounced?
@PRNTestDrive6 жыл бұрын
Those are questions we'd probably leave to more seasoned experts to answer. The E38 definitely is an electronic drive-by-wire system, and I believe the Lexus is as well. We're hoping as we continue to grow we'll have better opportunities to feature vehicles side by side and be able to do more performance testing like this.
@0hn0haha6 жыл бұрын
99? Bmw. But back to the ls400's, and I'll take the lexus. Btw, this is a 430, isn't it?
@PRNTestDrive6 жыл бұрын
The LS 430 came out in 2001, it was a new generation for the LS. I think it has a pretty similar design though, it seems Lexus was doing serious updates between 'Series' models. When searching online we found the Series III and Series IV look really different, despite both being second generation models.
@moriwaki11053 жыл бұрын
400....Quietest....smoothest....best built.....most reliable......most enjoyable car I have ever owned.......they simply will never be anything like it again....the sound system is truly incredible too....I bought the 460 and it was a terrible drive compared to the 400.....had 400 7 years.....460 six months...enough said.
@PRNTestDrive3 жыл бұрын
A lot of people seem to feel the same way, the LS 460 wasn't as good as the ones that came before.
@jonathannauck74534 жыл бұрын
If I had to choose one, extremely low miles and near mint condition, I’d be very tempted to pick the BMW. Yet at the end of the day I’d still take the Lexus. Not quite as sexy but won’t kill you on repairs. Also I think the interior materials did wear better.
@PRNTestDrive4 жыл бұрын
The Lexus is a solid choice no matter what. This car changed owners since we filmed it but it’s still performing perfectly as a daily for the new owner.
@jerrybarbender99876 жыл бұрын
Interesting comparison. I don't like BMWs much , just don't like the look of them , never have though I am sure they are pretty solid cars . A little too complicated for my liking , but then all vehicles are getting that now. I've liked Lexuses ever since they first appeared back in 89 or 90. I love Toyotas generally . Have had several completely trouble free ones over the years (couple of vans , a Crown and a pickup). The only one thing wrong with the big Lexuses - FOR ME - is the centre console and floor mounted shifter. I HATE floor shifters in anything. If Toyota had made the big Lexuses with a clear floor in the front and a column shifter it would be perfect for me , perfect in a car this size.
@PRNTestDrive6 жыл бұрын
Interesting! Most hate column shifters on anything other than pickup trucks. We actually got a lot of comments on our 2018 Cadillac Escalade video about it, since GM went with a column shifter for it. BMW decided to try that out for the E65 7 Series that came out after this one, but that didn't last long. Thanks for the comment, we always love hearing from people with different interests!
@jerrybarbender99876 жыл бұрын
Thanks for that , I will check out some of your other vids. Yes , I remember when the first LS400 came out years ago and thinking at the time , such a nice big car , almost the perfect car , just let down by that central console and a big floor-shifter intruding into the middle like that. That may seem a small detail to some people , but it was , and still is , the reason I wouldn't want one.
@PRNTestDrive6 жыл бұрын
I think it's just Mercedes and BMW during the mid 2000s that offered a dash-mount shifter. The Mercedes one was similar to BMWs, but Mercedes had some negative press around it due to some owners getting confused by the way it operated.
@owenb1t50145 жыл бұрын
I own an immaculate 2001 740i Sport with 52,000 miles on it, my old man has a 2000 Lexus LS 400 with 198,000 miles on it. Guess which costs more to maintain ?............. the Bavarian Beast! Not that my car is unreliable, far from, it’s just the LS 400 does not give trouble. It doesn’t burn a drop of oil at 10,000 mile service intervals. Handles like a boat 🚣♀️ tho!
@PRNTestDrive5 жыл бұрын
There's no doubt that the Lexus is significantly more reliable and less costly for maintenance. It's one of the reasons these older Lexus models continue to be our top suggestions for people looking for something different from a pre-owned daily driver.