This is a step by step how to video on how to change a front mount distributor Ford tractor over to 12 Volts and add electronic ignition.
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@laurabinns8193 ай бұрын
Great video, helped a lot with my installation. One thing I found out, by accident when looking on an antique tractor forum, is that the Pertronix part needs suppression spark plug wires, not the standard wires with a steel or copper core. I called Pertronix and they confirmed this. It's not mentioned in the instructions. Steiner Tractor has them, so does a company called Brillman. Pertronix says without the suppression wires, the electronic ignition can fail.
@Jason1Pa3 ай бұрын
You are absolutely correct. At the time of this video I was not aware of this until 4 years later. As you said it's not in the directions. Fortunately. In my opinion the cheap square coils we have available today are pretty weak compared to the round oil filled coils. In my opinion they don't produce enough juice to create the electromagnetic pulse that could destroy the module. I have since replaced all the plug wires on all my Fords just to be safe, but I had several hours on the old copper wires with no issues.
@pickerick13 жыл бұрын
I had to switch my 2n over to 12 volt because I couldn't keep the generators working also..i done this about 10 years ago and havent had a problem since..just did a tune up with points, condenser. And rotor..ive been running this tractor here on my farm for 35 years. People love to see it in my gardening videos..ty for doing this video.. Rick in NC
@Jason1Pa3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching Rick. Yeah dealing with charging issues due to junk cut out relays and junk brushes for the generators anymore got to frustrating and expensive keeping it 6 volt
@coreydavis72104 жыл бұрын
Great looking tractor and well cared for. Just performed this same upgrade on a friend's 1946 2N but instead of connecting the red wire of the Pertronix ignition to the coil positive (37:30 in the video) I ran a dedicated wire from the ignition switch to the red wire of the ignition. Reason being, if connected to the coil terminal the voltage to the electronics in the ignition is dropped to 8-9 volts by the ballast resistor. This is less than the intended 12-14 volts normally applied to the electronic ignition during operation. One additional modification was to connect a ground wire from the stud that holds the electronics to the plate to the threaded hole where the condenser once attached to provide the best ground possible. Great work!
@Jason1Pa4 жыл бұрын
I've seen that wiring done before. Reason why I didn't do it was I didn't want a wire on the outside of the new wire harness and I didn't want to open it up to put it in.
@NightcrawlerofElgin2 жыл бұрын
Does that mean everything else shares that same low voltage?
@OOGhostRider5 жыл бұрын
I rebuilt my Ford 8N last year, changed it over to an electronic ignition, thanks for making this amazing education step by step video Jason!! It started on the first crank over!!
@Jason1Pa5 жыл бұрын
Awesome!! So great to hear!! Have fun with the 8N
@FTT143Ай бұрын
I painfully watched another conversion video before I found yours, ty for a great edited learning video *****
@Jason1PaАй бұрын
@FTT143 Awesome! I'm glad you enjoyed it!
@johnjasinski61453 жыл бұрын
This is a great video on the conversion I have been considering. Great Job Jason!
@scottbehr5690 Жыл бұрын
Great video!... You can't go wrong when you deal with Derek at Just 8N's! I'm fortunate to live about 20 minutes from his shop and he has been a tremendous help every time I go in!
@Jason1Pa Жыл бұрын
That's awesome!!! I sure wish I lived near by it would save me a bunch on shipping! 😆 Thanks for watching!
@philsheridan92235 жыл бұрын
Terrific video! I just bought a Ford 8N and a Ford 900. The 8N is a six volt and it runs fine - I used it last summer to operate a brush hog. The wiring is a mess on both tractors. The 900 uses a 12 volt but the alternator isn't charging the battery. I appreciate gentlemen like you who show me the right way to perform upgrades that don't take away the history of these historic machines. Thank you, Jason!
@Jason1Pa5 жыл бұрын
Your welcome!! Enjoy those Fords!!
@frankdavidson9675 Жыл бұрын
you alternator needs to have about 14 v to charge 12v batter measure batt voltage with it running look for 14 volts if yous ee say 8 volt its a 6 volt alternator
@icarus9012 жыл бұрын
Jason, I keep coming back to your videos year after year as I do misc maintenance on my ford tractors. Your videos are by far some of the best on these models. Thank you.
@Jason1Pa2 жыл бұрын
That's awesome to hear! Glad they can help you!
@ervingoertzen72334 жыл бұрын
My dad did that years ago on a ford tractor, convertto 12. Volt, alternator and electronic ignition. But left the starter as a six volt. Everybody said it would burn out . That starter was never changed ,it started so fast and easy.
@Jason1Pa4 жыл бұрын
There is a common myth out there that a 6 volt starter won't work with 12 volts. Obviously that is false. In all honesty 6 volts is harder on the starter and other components. Like you said the 12 volt system starts these engines so fast.
@marciasanders65275 жыл бұрын
One of the best informational videos I’ve seen by far.
@misterexponential4 жыл бұрын
The best description of any repair on KZfaq you have.
@Jason1Pa4 жыл бұрын
Thank You!! Glad you enjoyed it!
@MrBruce07774 жыл бұрын
Yes as everyone else said Very good video. I'm like you today I put on and adjusted 3 different sets of points and even a new complete base plate with points set too, for a front distrisbuter and 3 times it ran for one minute and the points would not open and close for more than a minute and it quit running. ....Most New points are junk....I'm going Electronic on this one I have done it in the past and most of the times it's very easy install . When you put your test light on the coil to see if you had power I like to take it one step further and turn the motor over with the test light attached coil to see if the light blinks on and off telling me the points are opening and closing properly....GREAT JOB !!
@Jason1Pa4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Bruce! I normally put a meter on there instead of a test light when I'm actually trouble shooting. A test light will light up with any amount of current but isn't telling you if you got enough.
@c.r.hoodheritagefarms88254 жыл бұрын
Great video man; had an 8-N on the farm growing up. As a young boy I remember using it to feeding the cattle in the cold winters we used to have in north Georgia back un the 60’s. Rarely did it ever fail to start even in the coldest winter day and If it didn’t, it was always a battery issue. Just don’t make um like that anymore ! Great content and very informative 👍
@Jason1Pa4 жыл бұрын
Thank You!! Glad you enjoyed!
@bobw70663 жыл бұрын
Hi, I am back again and having a other look and would like to add a second comment. Always run the earth lead from the battery direct to the engine and then earth the engine to the bodywork, doing it this way gives a perfect power flow to the starter motor and eliminates any loose or dirty connections in the body or frame. I have been a heavy diesel mechanic on trucks and earthmovers for over fifty years so I am talking from experience.
@Jason1Pa3 жыл бұрын
Hi Bob welcome back! You are giving a good tip. However I'm one to try and keep things simple and fallow the book and keep the wiring simple and less of it. I can honestly say I never have had and kind of grounding issues with any of my tractors other then right at the battery posts.
@doncastro77265 жыл бұрын
Again thank you so much for your help I do not know a lot about these older tractors but I am very much wanting to learn. I enjoy doing all the work myself and do not like having to have other people work on my equipment. So your knowledge and the fact that you will take time to help his extraordinary. Thank you very much
@joesinakandid5284 жыл бұрын
Just bought a '40 9N with 12V but with points. Gonna get changed ASAP. Perfectly clear and information filled presentation - thank you, sir! Joe S (USAF Ret. AK and ID)
@frankdavidson9675 Жыл бұрын
i have a 53 dodge trk 6cy uses points no problem if you are having pitting prob on points change dist. condenser may have wrong mfd value or it is def condenser must match coil for max spark very easy to install wrong condenser.
@williamgawel84676 ай бұрын
Again thank you for all the information on the electrical work
@Jason1Pa6 ай бұрын
Your very welcome William!! I hope the videos can help you with your future project!
@williamgawel84675 ай бұрын
Hi Jason, just got finished watching this entire tape video rather and I’m glad I did because it’s exactly what I’m gonna be doing to my Ford two and when I get up and work on this spring when it gets up warm up West Virginia but I’m converting it over to 12 V and I’m gonna put headlights tail lights and electronic ignition too so it exactlyshow me how to do all that so good take thank you
@Jason1Pa5 ай бұрын
Your welcome!! Good luck!
@CB71SS4 жыл бұрын
I am not a tractor guy but the information on the electrical system was great. Nice looking tractor.
@Jason1Pa4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Charlie! Thanks for watching!
@barnycanuck62346 жыл бұрын
Very thorough video. Back in the day my Dad had a 9N. He took the front wheels off and replaced them with car tires. It was a lot smoother driving across a plowed field.
@morganhay8596 жыл бұрын
Barny Canuck my great grandfather used to do that but it was because he was to cheap to replace the tires with tractor tires but it made it hard to steer.
@JohnHBatte6 жыл бұрын
The bigger tires eat up your steering gears. We have two since new, a 1944 and a 1947. The 1944 had the 4.00-19 replaced with 6.00-16 truck tires then tractor tires in late 1950s. The 1947 still has the 4.00-19s the 1944 has completely worn out 3 sets of steering gears while the 1947 still has the original steering gears. We have now bought new wheels and put the 4.00-19s on the 1944 to much easier steering too.
@robertbiggs49342 жыл бұрын
Jason...thanks for posting this video! I kind of stumbled onto your channel, and this conversion really interested me. I don't own a tractor, but enjoy working on vehicles. I wanted to let you know that your presentation was awesome!! Great camera angles so viewers could get a clear view, audio that was clear, and spot-on knowledge of the subject and explanation of the process. Thanks again and keep up the great work!
@Jason1Pa2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Robert I really appreciate the compliments!
@robertbiggs49342 жыл бұрын
By the way...that's a beautiful little tractor. Super job on the restoration! I agree with your mind set on the 12v upgrade. It's one thing to enjoy the "originality" of the tractor, but also practicality plays a big part. I'm glad you use it for what it was meant to do...work!
@sandwon2 жыл бұрын
22:00 to 40:00 electronic ignition section. I had installed one on an 8n side distributor with instructions. This helped out Thanks
@pineylife4 жыл бұрын
Awesome video. I used your video to do my 12 volt conversion on my 1947 2n. I ordered all my parts through Just8ns and was extremely pleased with the quality of parts. I have my own youtube channel and was going to video my conversion but nothing beats your video. very informative with step by step instructions. Thanks for putting in the work and time in to making this video.
@Jason1Pa4 жыл бұрын
Awesome!! Glad it helped you. Thanks
@Jason1Pa4 жыл бұрын
I subbed to you as well. Looks like some interesting stuff.
@pineylife4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the sub I really appreciate it.
@mattpatterson26182 жыл бұрын
liked your video nice looking tractor. I am doing and convert a 6N 6volt to 12volt and electronic ignition had a water pump go bad and dump all the antifreeze fan hitting shroud and sheared blade off a never got into radiator. I purchased the old tractor last year to handle job I was doing was a hassle to jumper it all the time. I'm a machanic have work on anything that rolled pushed or carried in door so I here you on the quality poor made products out there these day parts quality products use to last years and if they failed your could repair them or purchase a OEM standard repair kit these days its sucks because if you have a part fail you replace it with a worse quality made part that made in china you be lucky if you get a year out of it
@stevehamman44652 жыл бұрын
Just watched this video for the second time, my brother has a 58 8n that sat for a while and was already converted to 12v. It won't run when it gets hot, sooo, so this video explains alot !!! I'm an OK mechanic, so this helped me answer all the question- problems that we are having ! Going to redo it your way!! Thanks! You have no idea how simple you made this for me! Good day! Especially about the resistors, figured there was one in the alternator , Going with electronic ignition also!
@Jason1Pa2 жыл бұрын
Generally if they stop running after it gets hot the coil is the culprit.
@stevehamman44652 жыл бұрын
@@Jason1Pa yes the coil was , hot to the touch. Maybe still 6v ? I'm just going to start from scratch?
@Jason1Pa2 жыл бұрын
@@stevehamman4465 It's fairly normal for a coil to get hot to the touch,but there is such a thing as too much. A lot of the 12 volt coils being processed don't have enough windings in them. They are equivalent to a 6 volt. It is important to test any coil with a meter to see how much resistance it has. You may need to add a extra inline resistor. Generally a 12 volt coil will have around 3.0 ohms of resistance where as a 6 volt will be around 1.5 ohms. You can use a 6 volt coil with 12 volt battery but you would need to add a extra resistor.
@stevehamman44652 жыл бұрын
@@Jason1Pa , Thanks ! This isn't a rush job. , it's to hot outside for this old timer! May have to pick your brain later on! Thanks for the information!, Good day!
@stevehamman44652 жыл бұрын
@@Jason1Pa , when I was younger my father bought a used blue and grey diesel Ford, New Holland engine. 9n ?? 64 something?. 4 speed . It was burning oil , so was going to have it fixed , dude took it apart then said he couldn't find parts for it. This was 40yrs ago, so ?
@gregpratt692622 күн бұрын
Nice walk though especially on the ignition . We had upgraded the 8n to 12volt long ago but electronic ignition looks like a nice addition...
@Jason1Pa22 күн бұрын
@gregpratt6926 A lot of people hate it,but a lot of people love it. I currently have 4 tractors that have it and only experienced one failure and it was totally my fault. I didn't have enough resistance. My first tractor to get switched to EI was in 2004 and still going strong. One thing I failed to mention in the video is changing the copper core plug wires
@williamgawel84675 ай бұрын
Thank you I can hardly wait until it gets warm enough so I can go up and start working on the tractor
@Jason1Pa5 ай бұрын
I can't wait for better weather either. We need to dry out too.
@williamgawel84675 ай бұрын
@@Jason1Pa same here
@whitebuffalo46415 жыл бұрын
This is really helpful. Thanks for posting it.
@Jason1Pa5 жыл бұрын
My pleasure
@rundoetx5 жыл бұрын
MIne's a 1950. Redoing it now. Great video. You do excellent work. Thanks for posting .
@Jason1Pa5 жыл бұрын
Thank you!! Thanks for watching
@morgansword4 жыл бұрын
There is a time for everything. Parts in a bag should you sell and you don't strike me as a seller. I love the fine detail and effort to keep original as most won't have a clue. I never apologize for making my stuff work for me as its mine and I can throw it off a cliff if I want to. You and I both know the satisfaction of using a tool that means something to the holder
@ronniepate43154 жыл бұрын
A whole lot of great info. Man I love those old tractor's .
@Jason1Pa4 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@Hydemaintenanceman4 жыл бұрын
@@Jason1Pa hay man how's things going? My name is Sean and I would like to get a full list of names of parts, model numbers and such for the parts you used in the video. I have an 8n that I have to replace all wires on and any and all info will help. It runs but takes a battery and jump box because I've been to lazy to replace the dryroted wiring lol. Thanks
@pseudopetrus4 жыл бұрын
So cool! It is nice to see someone taking care of a historical farm tractor!
@laurijorgenson66835 жыл бұрын
You make such informative videos. This was helpful in so many ways. Thank you so much!
@Jason1Pa5 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!!! Glad it could help.
@GreenbrokePete5 жыл бұрын
ABSOLUTELY ONE OF THE BEST VIDEOS IVE SEEN.. YOU KNOW YOUR STUFF ! Thank you
@Jason1Pa5 жыл бұрын
I appreciate it Pete. Thanks
@tomr30745 жыл бұрын
Jason with your help, I just got Rachel running!!! Total rewire and electronic ignition. Never heard it run this good!! Bought 5 years ago finally get some satisfaction!. Driving her (41 ser# 85407) from Brunswick md to martinsburg wv cause I can't get a trailer..... thanks for your videos, hydros is next
@Jason1Pa5 жыл бұрын
That is great to hear!!! I do have hydraulic repair videos if you have not seen them yet. Good luck on your trip and be safe!! I Googled the distance and it says about 30 miles. I've given one 35 miles on a tractor run. It will feel slow but take your time. I would highly recommend taking another coil with you. These new ones arn't very good. If you have a extra you probably won't need it.
@joepro.7363 жыл бұрын
thank you Jason , I was very anxious to hear it running , I hope you'll give that red a new coat, good luck with this piece of antique its beautiful , I just bought one its an 8N original shape it's already converted to 12 volt I will check the conversion as soon as my 8N will arrive to its new home.
@Jason1Pa3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Hopefully it will get completely stripped next summer an painted correctly. Good luck with your 8N.
@osimnod5 жыл бұрын
Very helpful video. Excellent detail and rationale for each decision. Am impressed with what these old tractors can do
@Jason1Pa5 жыл бұрын
Thank you Sir!! Thanks for watching!
@doncastro77265 жыл бұрын
'MERICA! awesome video. Really appreciate your knowledge an explanation. I will be buying my first 9N I believe it's a 48. Hopefully my conversion to 12 volts goes smooth
@Jason1Pa5 жыл бұрын
9Ns were made from 1939 to 1942 then came the 2N from 1942 to 1947. Then in mid 1947 the 8N came out and lasted until 1952. Good luck with with your new tractor
@trafficczar33666 жыл бұрын
Another "Great" for the video. Nice work explaining the centering of the static timing. When I installed the 1247 electronic ignition on my '50 front mount 8N I think I had to run a separate 12 volt line from the ignition switch with a diode to keep the tractor from running after I shut it off. I did have an after market ignition switch with no accessory terminal though.
@Jason1Pa6 жыл бұрын
traffic czar Thanks! There are many ways these tractors can be wired. I think this is the easiest way to do it.
@rezyness Жыл бұрын
Appreciate the details and explaining the parts and info on them. Thank you and keep it up
@bobw70664 жыл бұрын
Absolutely excellent conversion, workman ship first class. Any detractors are just jealous numb-sculls.
@MM-ns3ho6 жыл бұрын
Great video. I appreciate your attention to detail and the clarity of the video and explanation of what you’re doing. Thanks!
@Jason1Pa6 жыл бұрын
M M Your welcome!! Glad you found it useful. Stay tuned there will be more trouble shooting and how to videos in the future
@kenbarnes89584 жыл бұрын
Good video - and I agree with you about the Pertronix. i've been using them a long, long time. I think the first one I bought was $12 or $18 ( can't remember now - about 1970). Over the years I've converted 7 or 8 vehicles and never had one go bad. Believe me, the're more than $18 now.
@Jason1Pa4 жыл бұрын
I think the whole kit for the front mount distributors is around $130 give or take. Depends on who you get it from. If down the road you'd need to replace the module only it would be around $60
@glennwood11193 жыл бұрын
Thank you Jason for this very informative video. I converted mine to 12 volt using the kit from just 8n's and also there was a guy on the forum I forget which 1 it was.maybe the 8n forum.( I have a 1948 8n by the way,) who pulled the guts out of his coil put an external coil and then ran the coil wire down through the old cap and soldered the secondary coil wire in place where the coil contacts the dist. cap and that's what I did and it works really good I have an external coil that I got from Napa with an internal resistor 12 volt and it really works good and I just wondered what I'd have to do to put the electronic in there I'm using the points and condenser right now so probably just the same thing I just have to solder or just put the The wire coming up from the electronic ignition system to where I placed the coil wire now and that would probably work ideal.🎚️🇱🇷🇱🇷🇱🇷🙏🚜🚜btw the old 8n whom I named " BUbba-Tom" starts@the first punch of the starter button after it's warmed up.
@Jason1Pa3 жыл бұрын
Glen Yes,putting a external round coil is a good choice if you want to make your ignition system almost bullet proof. The square coils of today are just junk. I thought about getting the kit from Yesterday's Tractor at some point but for now I just keep a few extra coils on hand for the Fords. Sounds like you have the right idea when it comes to wiring up the EI just one thing I forgot to mention in the video you need to change the copper core spark plug wires to the modern suppression ones. The copper ones can create a electronic pulse that could damage the EI module.
@glennwood11193 жыл бұрын
@@Jason1Pa thank you Jason yeah I'm going to order those wires when I ordered the EI so yeah I read that part in there I guess another reader or viewer had seen that and asked about that so that's what I'm going to do I'm going to order it when I order the kit thank you Jason for what you do I'm going to tune into this I'm going to subscribe so you have a good good day bye 😉😉🎚️🇱🇷🇱🇷🙏🚜
@Jason1Pa3 жыл бұрын
@@glennwood1119 Sounds good thanks!
@maxbennedbk70853 жыл бұрын
Im the proud owner of a IH 434 witch i got after my dad passed away (it was his) and speaking of coolant i actually cant remember the last time the coolant on it was changed, i think i was 1 or 2 yrs old (im 14 now) so thats 12 yrs of pulling tree stumps out of the ground and driving medium sized row boats to the beach douring hot summerdays (20* plus) and ripping trees out like plants with roots and everything with me at the wheel (i was 10-11 so i remember it like yesterday) and now its sitting in a shed at one of my dads friends (my godfather) where im currently restorating it, i bumped the radiator a few days back and its leaking fluid so its gonna be the dirst time in over a decade its gonna recieve new fluids 💦
@Jason1Pa3 жыл бұрын
It's about time!! 😂 Good luck!
@murraykriner94254 жыл бұрын
Great content! So happy you did this like they really should be done. Made the whole process on conversion seem like a cake walk, even though I'm certain it wasn't as easy as you made it seem. The addition of the Dennis Carpenter headlights also was in keeping with the original, being an actual Ford die that made the shell and rings. The braided wire loom was a logical and perfect departure for your connections. Thank you for your efforts. Know that if I should find myself working on a Ford N-series tractor one day, I'll have the know-how and confidence to tackle the job at hand. Will be staying tuned in for all your content in the future.
@Jason1Pa4 жыл бұрын
Thank you Sir I really appreciate the kind words!
@murraykriner94254 жыл бұрын
@@Jason1Pa just thrilled to see folks who bother to do things that really lend dependability and stick to the standards that made these tractors the workhorse of most folks farms. It was practical advice with common-sense tips on just how to make it come all together well. Thanks for taking a moment to respond back. Be safe and stay well.
@octane20995 жыл бұрын
I don’t have a tractor yet but I’m glad I watched this video I’m still in the market for a 9n 8n or a 2n
@Jason1Pa5 жыл бұрын
That's great!!! Hope you can find one soon!!
@thehappytexan5 жыл бұрын
Thank you! This video answered a few questions I’ve trying to find answers for regarding an 8n a buddy of mine has that someone swapped the 12v kit over from another 8n onto this one. There has been more than one issue or I should say conflict with the 3/4 12v kit and 1/4 6v system. 😤
@Jason1Pa5 жыл бұрын
Glad the videos helped some. Good luck!
@backtobasicstipswithtomrib195 жыл бұрын
Great video Jason....I have an 8N and it is in rough shape. Had it converted to 12v and this would have been very doable even for a non mechanic like myself. Thank you.
@Jason1Pa5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Tom 😃
@williamgawel84674 ай бұрын
As always another great video watching you work is fun for me keep up the good work I would love to be there with you
@Jason1Pa4 ай бұрын
Thanks so much William I really appreciate it!! I'm glad you are enjoying them.
@williamgawel84674 ай бұрын
@@Jason1Pa Have a happy Easter and next weekend I’m going to West Virginia to meet up with my ford 2N and my grandson Tucker
@Jason1Pa4 ай бұрын
@williamgawel8467 Happy Easter to you too! Safe travels! Is your grandson named after the car by chance?
@williamgawel84674 ай бұрын
@@Jason1Pa no I don’t know where they got that name but that’s the grandson that I have around now he’s only one that I’ll make contact with so he’s going to get this Tractor when we get done and he’s gonna learn how to work on it so have a good day
@detroitredneckdetroitredne667410 ай бұрын
Piney life Suggested your KZfaq channel and I am here for your guidance. Thank you for your knowledge and expertise. And hello, from Romulus, Michigan.
@Jason1Pa10 ай бұрын
Hello!! Thanks for stopping in and commenting! Hope you find a lot of my Ford videos helpful. Your not too far from the Henry Ford Museum and Village? I've been there a couple times. Along with the Michigan Speedway and Lake Michigan. Very beautiful state!
@detroitredneckdetroitredne667410 ай бұрын
@Jason1Pa actually at 275/94 in romulus 12 miles w from Henry Ford Greenfield village the family and i go there about 3 times a year The tractor I picked up is about 1947 I cranked it over today just to see if it would it was in gear at moved, did not fire. Wire harness is a mess I would like to get it running. I need to find out if the block is good or not. Do you have a step 1 video? For a known tractor. Meaning I have no idea about this tractor
@Jason1Pa10 ай бұрын
@@detroitredneckdetroitredne6674 You mean you want to try and figure out what model and year you have?
@pabloestrada54534 жыл бұрын
Man am happy you posted this going to change over thanks for the information Jason.
@Jason1Pa4 жыл бұрын
Your welcome! Good luck
@tomr30745 жыл бұрын
Thank you for explaining so well!.just what I need to get Rachel running well again. Thanks Tom in md
@Jason1Pa5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Tom and hope you get Rachel running good soon!!
@decathelondave93406 жыл бұрын
thank you Jason, replaced the coil and the 8N runs great.
@Jason1Pa6 жыл бұрын
Dave Gerken Awesome!! That's what I like to hear!!
@farrellnuszjr92165 жыл бұрын
Your very good at teaching a pretend mechanic like me how to do it the right way. Thank you now I'm able to try it myself. At least I've got a video to keep me from messing up. A shad tree mechanic such as myself always ends up with a few extra parts at the end of the job. Lol.
@Jason1Pa5 жыл бұрын
I appreciate the kind words!! I don't consider myself the best teacher in the world but I give it my best. Good luck with your conversion!! And don't worry about those extra parts. Extra parts just shows you made it better!!😂 LOL
@larrymeyers69136 жыл бұрын
Great video. I've got a 1940 9n and the charging system never worked. I've seen videos and everyone wired up there systems differently and sorta scared me on doing a conversion. So I am ordering both a 12volt charging system and ignition system( always burning up points). Thanks for showing me/us how easy it is to do
@Jason1Pa6 жыл бұрын
Larry Meyers Glad the video helped! Yes there are some scary wiring out there
@johndowe70036 жыл бұрын
did you get your tractor wired?
@FarmallFanatic6 жыл бұрын
Outstanding video! Tractor looks great 👍
@Jason1Pa6 жыл бұрын
Farmall Fanatic Thanks Farmall Fanatic!! Glad you enjoyed it
@jasonodom73964 жыл бұрын
Im doing my conversion now. I can see how the distributor is designed to only be installed one way but my distributor will go on either way so it definitely could be put on 180 out. To anyone reading this take note of the orientation of the shaft when you take the distributor off just in case.
@Jason1Pa4 жыл бұрын
Wow you must have a lot of wear!! Or someone at one time made the slot in the cam shaft bigger at one time for whatever reason. They should only fit one way.
@MrStarlin516 жыл бұрын
Hello Jason I have a 8n 12volt with a 12volt coil also along with the white resistor so I don't need that great video
@Jason1Pa6 жыл бұрын
starlin hembree You wouldn't need it if you are using the original style resistor that's on the firewall. Now if your tractor has some other way of being wired and doesn't use the original resistor then chances are you do.
@SuperCmac154 жыл бұрын
Great video thank you for sharing, i just bought 52' 8n an find this super helpful. Thanks again and beautiful work!
@Jason1Pa4 жыл бұрын
A 52 8N has a total different design. That would be a side distributor not a front mount. Also the alternator is on the left hand side. Thanks for watching
@northrube3 жыл бұрын
Really nice explanation of conversion. Very professional install! Looking at getting one of the tractors eventually...not sure which one tho!
@Jason1Pa3 жыл бұрын
Thank You and I'm glad you found it enjoyable. I'm sure you will be happy with either of the models.
@joecnc33414 жыл бұрын
Liked, subscribed, and did the notifications. Like your videos - very well done. I appreciate you taking the hood off of the tractor so that we could see what is going on. WOW- your tractors are CLEAN! I have a 1952 8N with Sherman transmission
@Jason1Pa4 жыл бұрын
Thank you!! Glad you enjoyed! Hopefully some new videos being posted soon. Tractors are clean because I restore them and retire them. 😆 I'd like to get a late model 8N with a Sherman someday. Right now I'm looking around for a Sherman for my 48 8N.
@joecnc33414 жыл бұрын
@@Jason1Pa I got lucky when I got mine. I still use it for light work on my place Up North, but I also have a small diesel kubota with a front loader and 4wd (and power steering).... Great machine.. already converted to 12 volts, but none of the gauges are hooked up or lights.. I want to put LED replacement lights in it, then do the body work
@joecnc33414 жыл бұрын
@@Jason1Pa Now I want to do the electronic ignition upgrade, too. Can definitely see what you mean about the quality of today's Points & Condensors
@Jason1Pa4 жыл бұрын
@@joecnc3341 the side distributor 8Ns are nice to do the electronic ignition on since you have the round coil. You can get a "hot" one and will have enough resistance with out any extra resistors. Just a word of caution get new plug wires. Get new carbon core. Don't use the copper core wires. They can produce a electronic pulse and damage the electronic ignition module.
@joecnc33414 жыл бұрын
@@Jason1Pa Thank You- for the advice. I want to keep "Henry" running.
@donaldshields24833 жыл бұрын
Very good job look very nice are used to drive one of them he has a go on a big vegetable farm we have five or six of them
@davemoyer5053 жыл бұрын
Good stuff. Will be using your knowledge on my ‘49 8n. Thank you!👍
@Jason1Pa3 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Good luck and thanks for watching!
@daver6813 жыл бұрын
12 Volt system is the only way to go on those tractors, we had a 8N the whole time I was growing up and that thing would barely start unless we had a brand new battery in it, we replaced batteries generators wiring everything and it never was dependable and I finally converted it over to 12 volt and just left the 6 volt starter in it and from that day on it started perfect every time and I never did have to change that starter, just a quick bump on the starter button and it was running every time, 12 Volt is the only way to go, hands down.
@Jason1Pa3 жыл бұрын
Especially now with the junk electrical parts. As I stated in the video I NEVER had a problem with starting or even charging for YEARS. The last 10 years have been a nightmare. Thanks for watching!
@davem41936 жыл бұрын
Great video, I really enjoyed it. Nice touch painting the alternator black. I've been on the fence about converting my 9N to 12V. It currently has a 3rd brush generator and I've had a few issues. I had to replace a cutout because it wouldn't close. I didn't notice for a while so the generator got really hot spinning with no load on it. With the new cutout it's charging but it's overcharging, I can't get it to charge any less than 9 amps on its lowest setting so I'm guessing it's only a matter of time before it needs the generator rebuilt.
@Jason1Pa6 жыл бұрын
Dave M Thanks I'm glad you enjoyed it. I can assure you at 9 amps you will cook that generator in a short amount of time. I generally don't like to go over 3 amps
@davem41936 жыл бұрын
I was afraid of that. Is this the kit that you used from just8N's - www.just8ns.com/8NE10300ALTC-Years-1939-50-12V-Conversion-Kit-Front-Mount-Dist? I like the alternator bracket you used.
@Jason1Pa6 жыл бұрын
Dave M Yes it is
@davem41936 жыл бұрын
Thanks Jason, I may have to come over to the 12V side.
@davidoleary24526 жыл бұрын
Great video Jason so many use full tips in here dave from Ireland
@Jason1Pa6 жыл бұрын
david o leary Glad you enjoyed it Dave!
@buddyboy19536 жыл бұрын
Great video, you explained a lot,and I learned a lot as well so thanks.
@Jason1Pa6 жыл бұрын
Ken Harvey Your welcome Ken glad you got something out of it.
@chowhound863 жыл бұрын
Great video! It was very well done.
@luthergreen18192 жыл бұрын
Thank you now I will change my 9n
@Jason1Pa2 жыл бұрын
Good luck!
@butchpark65893 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing your great video, I found it to be very informative. Thanks again!
@Jason1Pa3 жыл бұрын
I appreciate it 😁 Thanks for watching
@stephengordon89684 жыл бұрын
Really an awesome video, I can't say enough about it !
@Jason1Pa4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Stephen!! Glad you liked it.
@jerryf6095 жыл бұрын
Thanks Jason. I watched your other 2N videos as well. These will be extremely helpful to me when I tackle my 2N.
@Jason1Pa5 жыл бұрын
Awesome!! Thanks for watching!!
@colbyelliott3775 жыл бұрын
Great looking tractor and great job God bless you
@Jason1Pa5 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@dougmay43963 ай бұрын
Great video. Thanks
@Jason1Pa3 ай бұрын
Thanks your welcome!
@georgemyers65185 жыл бұрын
Great video. I’m a pretty big fan of antique tractors.especially the ford n models. I just subscribed
@Jason1Pa5 жыл бұрын
Awesome Thanks!!
@dalecostich87943 жыл бұрын
EXCELLENT THANKYOU
@Kalkaekie3 жыл бұрын
Outstanding video !! Very interesting !!
@Jason1Pa3 жыл бұрын
Thank You very much! Greatly appreciated.
@GuntersGarage6 жыл бұрын
Boy I really know what you mean about the low quality import parts. It sure gets aggravating messing with that stuff. Especially when it goes down at the worst possible time. I had no idea electronic ignition was available, thats good to know, thanks :)
@Jason1Pa6 жыл бұрын
Gunters Garage The struggle it real man. LOL I am a 6 volt guy and took me years to convert but I am tired of breaking down. You'd be surprised you can get electronic ignition for just about everything these days.
@GuntersGarage6 жыл бұрын
I know what you mean. I like 6 volt and points for the cool factor. People are always “oh wow your still running 6v & points”. Its funny how some folks think its a big deal. If you can get good parts everthing works fine. Key word good parts, lol.
@douglasrenaud64593 жыл бұрын
Great video thanks.
@RonI-qz2tz5 жыл бұрын
Electronic Ignition is the way to go.
@Jason1Pa5 жыл бұрын
With all the headaches with modern electrical parts I am SOLD on EI conversions
@joet.47564 жыл бұрын
Very detailed, Thanks!
@cornflake735 жыл бұрын
great tutorial, very in depth.
@Jason1Pa5 жыл бұрын
Thanks!! 😃
@rickolson90116 жыл бұрын
Great to see you back again!
@Jason1Pa6 жыл бұрын
Rick Olson It's good to be back Rick. Hopefully got some projects lined up in the near future. How's things been with you?
@rickolson90116 жыл бұрын
Jason1Pa Life is good, been working on my ‘26 Model T Ford soft top pickup, frame off. May need to spend some time with the 8N to tune up the roads a bit. Looking forward to your new projects, i really appreciate the extra effort you make to note the differences in jobs on the 8N!
@Jason1Pa6 жыл бұрын
Rick Olson I'm jealous I've been wanting a Model T for years!!
@rickolson90116 жыл бұрын
Jason1Pa You’ll feel right at home with a 6 volt T!
@darrelfuhrman82173 жыл бұрын
One big problem with using the 6 volt coil on a 12 volt alternator is that you have reversed polarity on your spark plugs. With reversed polarity, the spark jumps from the ground electrode to the hot electrode. The problem with that spark would rather jump from a hot surface to a colder surface. Making a hard starting hot tractor. I know, my grandpa & my uncle had 8, 9N, 2N, & 8N. Some 6 volt, some 12 volt with an alternator, some 12 volt with a battery charger. The way that you can check your spark plug polarity is, hold the spark plug terminal away from the plug, insert a sharp pencil in the gap. If the flare is on the spark plug side of the pencil, excellent! NOTE: I like to put a rubber replacement eraser on the pencil, if you touch the metal band, you will get shocked! Look in the tune up section of an old Motor’s Manual. Either the blue car edition or the green truck & pickup edition. Good luck. Looking good. Hello from north east Montana. 10 miles from the Canadian border.
@Jason1Pa3 жыл бұрын
You are correct. It's interesting though that in a lot of cases I've talked to people that switched to 12 volt coils they wouldn't hold up as long. Throw a 6 volt with a added resistor and the 6 volt coil lasts. Odd. I'm assuming it's either luck or the 12 volts are just cheaper made. I currently have one Ford that's 12 volt with a 6 volt coil and it starts fine and runs fine. If it ain't broke I guess don't fix it. 😆 Thanks for reply and thanks for watching!
@darrelfuhrman82173 жыл бұрын
@@Jason1Pa I wonder if with the Ignitior Electronic Ignition conversion kit that you might have enough cranking spark to over come the reverse polarity. We put a 12 volt alternator on our NAA so that we could run the 12 volt winch on the PTO grain auger. At that time, about 1992, I had to make our kit, and build up an alternator. If you take one off of a 83 to 86 Buick Electra with the Olds 307”Y” motor. The alternator charges 25 amps at engine idle. 65 amps at full throttle. That alternator works great on Farmall M, SMTA, 400, 450, 706 gas or diesel, 806 gas or diesel. This alternator also solves the IHC 86 series where you can not run the A/C on high for very long, otherwise you will have a low enough battery that it may not start. Hello from north east Montana. 10 miles from the Canadian border.
@roberthughes60726 жыл бұрын
Jason thanks for another great video.
@Jason1Pa6 жыл бұрын
Robert Hughes Thanks Robert!! Stay tuned. Trouble shooting video coming in the near future!!
@jamesmorad50094 жыл бұрын
Very good job, thanks for sharing.
@Jason1Pa4 жыл бұрын
Thank You!!
@kennethbailey26162 жыл бұрын
Superb video
@Jason1Pa2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Ken!
@terryhiggins97006 жыл бұрын
Nice job. Very informative.
@Jason1Pa6 жыл бұрын
Terry Higgins Thanks! Glad you liked it!
@ernestmorales10234 жыл бұрын
Excellent video sir ! Thank you .. 47 .9N
@Jason1Pa4 жыл бұрын
Thank you!! Just a heads up if your serial number is saying 1947 you have a 2N not a 9N
@ernestmorales10234 жыл бұрын
@@Jason1Pa yes mines a 2N. .I'm dum on sundays. Lol
@Jason1Pa4 жыл бұрын
@@ernestmorales1023 But it's Monday? 😆
@AbdulKurad5 жыл бұрын
Good sir thanks 🇮🇳👍🚜
@jjay7183 ай бұрын
Nice Video. Wish you could still get those radiators for $200 lol.
@Jason1Pa3 ай бұрын
Where are you looking at? Just8ns and Dennis Carpenter are at 289 last I checked. Still cheaper then getting them fixed at a local shop. Last shop I went to said at least 600
@jjay7183 ай бұрын
@@Jason1Pa yeah I got a new one from Just8ns for the 289 plus shipping.
@jeremyc34315 жыл бұрын
A good place to buy you battery terminals is napa. Solder on terminals. Best way in my opinion to make your own. About the same price too.
@barbschlegel36804 жыл бұрын
Jason... great video... Can you make a video explaining the wiring throughout these tractors? I love how you give an understanding of all the critical features..
@Jason1Pa4 жыл бұрын
That's funny that you mentioned that because I've been thinking about doing a video like that.
@barbschlegel36804 жыл бұрын
Fantastic... My tractor is stilla 6 volt with stuff on it that I'm not sure what it is! The layout of the wiring is the part I'm trying to understand! What wire goes where and why! Thank you for the detail you share!
@Jason1Pa4 жыл бұрын
@@barbschlegel3680 What tractor do you have? 9N 2N 8N? Google JMOR wiring diagram for 6 volt Ford then the model number. They are pretty easy to fallow wiring diagram.
@barbschlegel36804 жыл бұрын
Jason... I'm not sure.. The tractor was repainted and you can't make out the model number what so ever....I think maybe an 8N... All I know is that it's a 42 Ford!
@Jason1Pa4 жыл бұрын
@@barbschlegel3680 if it's a 42 it's not a 8n. Either a 9N or 2N if you'd like you can email me at jbeluschok@yahoo.com and I can see if I can help you out especially if you can send a picture or 2
@josephjorgensen32822 жыл бұрын
I did this conversation as a young man with a hand drawn print
@charleshogan4 жыл бұрын
What you're doing to that tractor is the best upgrade you could of done to it it's not going to make it maintenance free but it's sure going to help you out of some stuff that is always having to be done to it and its more reliable for sure thanks for sharing it with us the new wiring harness is the best way to go with it expeshley with the newer altanateor charging system and the electronic ignition system the ones that have the problems with the electronic system is because thy had a short some were in there wiring every thing I have made this type conversations to seem to have more power because there working like there supposed to be and I've always gotten better fuel mileage out of them because of the better firing going to the spark plugs I would make a upgrade to the cap and wires while I was going that far with it and regap my spark plugs that old girl hasn't had that good of fire going into them plug's sense it was new run some sea foam through her to clean all that old carbon build up from that old weaker firing system it came with 50 years ago clean them old valves up she will definitely run better for sure that's why I say it's the best fix you could ever do to it
@Jason1Pa4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! There is no need to clean any carbon out. Engine was just rebuilt a few years ago. Put new plugs in it then. I failed to mention or show in the video that I did replace the plug wires to a newer carbon core style then the copper core. Petronix recommends it to eliminate the possibility of a electric pulse that could damage the EI module. Granted that would probably only happen if you had a real hot coil but better to be safe then sorry.
@McCuneWindandSolar4 жыл бұрын
god you Tractor is sexy compared to mine. Wish I new some one that would rebuild my motor on my. Because it has low power but it still gets the job done. I changed mine to 12 volt because it starts faster and starts even on cold days with out any problems. I also maid my key start no need to push a button anymore I took all that out. and its no longer positive ground.
@Jason1Pa4 жыл бұрын
Thank you!!
@lukebecker19595 жыл бұрын
You dont have to worry about them generators if they dont charge unless your using the lights on the tractor after dark otherwise just charge the battery after your dine using it
@Jason1Pa5 жыл бұрын
I'm out there for hours at a time some days. Trust me they drain the battery. Yes they do last a while though.
@lukebecker19595 жыл бұрын
@@Jason1Pa ya i agree with that
@mrbrown34623 жыл бұрын
I bought an 8n at an auction for 400 the rebuilt the motor new everything and could not get it to run and they said that they thought the cam gear broke or came off or it was out of time. I got it home took the hood of anticipating on taking it apart. I put a battery in it turned it over a few times and all it did was back fire through intake and couple time through exhaust looked at plug wires they were correct then I popped the cap and realized it had electronic ignition in it got looking at the wires out of the distributor which they did a really nice job putting it all in nice cloth wire loom and everything but they had the red lead on the neg side of coil and black on the pos side I switched them around and still did the same thing I played with it a little and then called pertronix they told me it was probably junk but how to check it and I ended up ordering other ignition got it in a couple days put it in and tractor fired right up so I got a rebuilt 8n with no hours on it for a little over 500 with the cost of buying the tractor and the cost of the new ignition
@Jason1Pa3 жыл бұрын
Awesome story!! Just a heads up. Replace your plug wires if they are copper core. They create a electronic pulse that can damage the module. Also check your coil to see how much resistance it has. A lot of these 12 volt coils only have 1.5 ohms of resistance. That's not good. It needs to be around 2.5 or more. If it's low you will need to add a extra resistor or you'll be burning up coils and Petronix modules.
@mrbrown34623 жыл бұрын
I have the full pertronix ignition system including the coil and using 8mm plug wire because that is what the customer service guy from pertronix recomended.