its fum how this "outlaw life", that lives outside of the normal rules of society, has even more rules in itself

@@unitouchme that’s a point Tony makes in The Sopranos, too lol

im pretty sure jury's vp wanted him dead

Jax never wanted to kill Jury but he wasn’t going to let him get in the way for his revenge.

it is a tv show

Fucking legend.

Puts on sunglasses....YEEEEEEAAAAAHHHHHH!

Nice 😆

*THIS!!!*

@@oelaty9116 A Legendary Legend inside of a Legend behind all of the Legendary Legends in the world

Not sure why you think there was ever a time this was different. Also it's hardly exclusive to leaders.

It's also tv

He just wanted to die. Dude was ready to go. If your mom killed your wife you’d want to go too haha

Unrealistic TV show

It’s T….V….. Nothing is realistic

ian favors you mean Agent John Doggett...

Jason Eves Davie, your doing a good job

hahahah funny man. 👍🏼

In case you forgot, T1000 could have turn himself into anyone he wanted to be.

ian favors lol

he didn't really take his medicine. The other presidents should have entrusted Jax meeting Mr. Mayhem to another club and not his loyal brothers

His club needed to do it. So each club maintains its individuality, and each club pays for the mistakes of its members. If his own charter couldn't do it, they would question the integrity of the entire Redwood Original crew.

this was all part of jax's grand plan, kinda like Opie's was, a legal suicide of sorts.... but, loose ends needed to be tied up, and , according to the rules of SAMCRO, not only Jax killing a President, but President of the mother charter.... when clay killed Piney, Piney was First 9, and Mr. Mayhem was the punishment should the table vote it, and Mr. Mayhem wasnt getting off so easy as to have 1, 2 in the back of the head, but Mr. Mayhem means getting chained to a bike and dragged to your death....... and on a more personal note, i Wish their wouldve been more scenes with Packer here

TheyGoWhootnnn yall wouldnt understand with ur prancy lil lives

a "true man" wouldn't have senselessly killed one his friends like that in the first place

That and he actually faced justice for what he did, unlike Clay who killed McGee in Belfast and nothing ever came of it.

@@fjorgyn7438 mcgee was doing the same thing clay was in a sense. So its more a matter of clay's hypocrisy in that case.

@@therealjoker6706 doesn't matter. A president killed a president and he didnt face the potential of a mayhem vote. That's bullshit, frankly.

@@fjorgyn7438 yeah I feel you on that. But they had a confession from the Sgt. Indicating himself and the pres of Belfast. It was on tape so I dont think samcro would let that vote fly. And it has to be unanimous so...

Slightly better man, far worse president

yea he wanted to die but i think if he didn’t lie and used the defense of that brothers fight but never draw on each other it was kill or be killed how is that not self defense

yeah the moment he knew he had killed a lot of people unjustly, and that he realized what he had to do to Gemma, then thats when he was like "its time to die".

after Jury told him his father killed himself, he ended up doing the same thing. The Mayhem vote was a confirmation that he would die and that he had to clean up everything before he died.

@@SantomPh exactly the same way and reasoning why John killed himself if he really did, “ so his club can live on and his boys won’t live that life” but at the same time clay clearly did sabotage his bike and killed Lowell Sr to cover it up him n Gemma both admitted that so idrk….

I never understood why they didn’t use Lin to protect Jax. I would’ve have Juice ask Lin who betrayed them, then had Juice tell Lin to say “on camera” that it was Jury. Maybe because Jax wanted to die, easier for his sons to get out if he’s gone too

Good point in retrospect but the narrative was first through the club and the family cycles and then everything else

They did they had to convince other charters to sell guns thru their territories

also mayans and the sons are built on 2 different philosophys

with sons of anarchy its more Samcro had the most influence as the mother charter, the first one and the one that had the most first 9 members, so they pretty much set the standard that all other charters went by. There were charters that did not always go that way as Samtaz chose to keep their meth trade even after Clay told them to shut it down, cause again it was their own charter and therefore their own call. Mayans was different cause Santo padre was not the most influential charter from the start (that was Oakland and more so because of Alvarez) and majority of the inner mayan conflict was cause Santo Padre tried to become like SAMCRO when Alvarez stepped down and then got kicked out.

He also was made of liquid metal

How good an actor do you have to be to go from one of film’s most villainous bad guys in T2 to one of TV’s most cowardly losers?

I remember when the President of the Indian Hills chapter was a Dutch painter who cut his own ear off.

Chrissy was sleeping and he grab some rolls ziti

Their kids went to school together hahaha

That would be a pretty cool idea tho. Wouldnt be accurate as far as MC culture, or a smart/effective way to get that job done.....but it would be cool.

@@kevp6488 Is there anything about MC culture that's smart and effective? They commit crimes while traveling on harleys clad in leather.

There are smart n effective ways to do any crime. Thats how we get druglords, kingpins and serial killers. It only takes one mistake to get caught, so smart n effective is the *only* way to do crime without getting caught on your first crime.

@@seangannon6005 Most motorcycle clubs aren't like that. They're not all criminals

@@user-jw8yh6yq1p sorry should've specified criminal motor cycle clubs

Knight192 pretty much, but yeah in this season, Gemma royally fucked up on this one.

But then again, guys like Clay last longer than guys like Jax. Remember, Clay had a 30 yr reign as President. Jax's reign was short as hell.

@@anthonycampos8057 Clay had 18 years reign as a President, not 30. Also different circumstances and situations. During Clay's time, their biggest problem was which Mayans to kill. Then because of his selfishness, greedy nature he ended up turning the Club into IRA and Romeo's wh*re,with so many enemies lurking around including Clay himself. And all that fell upon Jax's shoulder when he became the president. And he brought the club out from it.

@@mdrasedulhoque992 i thought they said 30.

@@anthonycampos8057 He became president in 1993 after JT died. Jax himself died in 2013. That is barely even 20 years,let alone 30😅 Check on google if there is still any suspicion.

Jax never faced anything. It was always clays fault or anybody else's. He was a whiney baby. He's the reason Tara s dead and Opie and Bobby. And nearly got tig killed

Mooky Blaylock I dunno about that... I think there’s a pretty clear difference between killing yourself to save your friends from having to do it (Jax had to die or SAMCRO would have been crushed by other charters for Jury’s murder) and suicide because you couldn’t handle stuff (like juice attempted, which is when we hear that line)

@@user-ns3vs3bp3e suicide is considered weak in that world Jax did not go out like a man

@@mr.tonywilliams1236 he got infront of a truck how is that not manly lol

@@gentgerxhaliu2413 why don't you go give it a try and comeback and tell us how manly you feel

Wrong. He committed suicide. At least he came Clean about everything maybe put his mind at peace.

Except that other president pointed a gun on him and might have killed Jax there lol.

@@bekeneel with the way jax was I don't blame jury. The Jax that jury knew was long dead and was looking for any excuse to kill again. Jury defended himself and got shot in the face for it. Jax had a noble cause at first but then he got bloodthirsty and reckless. He turned into happy except happy faces that he was a murderer and accepted that he enjoyed it, he didn't make excuses for his evil.

@@scottritchey573 I get it, but still that situation where Jury pointed a gun on him after jax hit him it could be explained as self-defense. Same like when you point a gun at a cop aiming to shoot, the cop can shoot you in self-defense :)

​@@bekeneel there are situations where self defense doesn't work anymore because you yourself created the situation where it was either kill or be killed.

@@bekeneelJax was literally trying to put the blame on Jury and kill him without a vote and Jax just said he’s a traitor with no real proof. Of course Jury tried to pull his gun Jax basically already said he was going to kill him without a vote. I mean Jax already fucking murdered his son didn’t he? Season 7 Jax can suck a dick. I’ll let you plebs worship him and excuse everything he did

Absolutely

That's the only reason it had to land. Jury reached first.

⁠@@gsteel98 yeah it was weird how they said that somehow made it “out and out murder” like it was either self-defense or not, lying after the fact to justify the original fight doesn’t change that

Frankie Nunez jax was a bitch in my opinion

he went out on the same bike as hes father on the same road and on the same way and the most fucked up thing ever is its all thanks to gemma getting the ball roling wich ended up in both the JT's dying

He didn't DO them DIRTY

@@gerritdeslak5988 true. Gem was the worst passive chaotic character

What I thought is he really did not have to die in fact.. Like if he wanted to punish his mom, he couldv've best had her arrested, the other kills at the end he could've just give out to others. He could've taken his boys and went to Nero's farm for example after his club was pretty much in calm waters again.. If not I think the biggest reason for Jax wanting to kill himself would be the loss of TAra. But it was the plan from the star that it would end like this and Jax would die, it had to be Dramatic "like Shakespear".

Idiot could never hide it

Yeap. The London’s accent came out strong.

Cedric Samuels he’s not from London though?

Cedric Samuels he’s a Geordie not a soft Southerner

His real accent sounds like a mix between English and American anyway.

Is he packer? IM FIXING the FUCKING LIGHT BULB it’s Glare 😂- Davey your doing a good job

Bruh

with honor and dignity

terrell petty did you watch the show?

Sabrina Hutt you don’t pull a piece on a brother when he hits you lmao. Some bitch shit... a lot of members hit another member, the member hit back. They didn’t pull a piece to try and kill them so uh no, jury was wrong.

Ten two facts jury a pussy didn’t want to throw hands

Conservative Copwatch his gun fell out

Gun fellllll out it was Jax plan

Sabrina Hutt You gotta be realistic, if someone woulda drew their weapon after you attacked them are you gonna really take the chance of "Maybe he won't shoot me." Lmao

Zach Zee a real biker president? Like the hells angels mc real??

@@Mandalorian_Goblinslayer except their not one percenters

Who is T1000? I thought you were referring to the terminator Edit: oooh shit nevermind I just looked it up who the actor is. That's crazy. He also played that psycho who kept Aaron and father gabe hostage in season 10 of walking dead. Dang this guy plays alot of different characters without being recognizable lol

Then he gambled his money away to tony soprano and now tony has a bike club

Robert Patrick.

The chills this is real

“Gotta look this life...in the eye..”

"Do new new new new do new new newwwwww"

Pretty sure it's Devils Path. Unless my subtitles are for some reason wrong.

On the devil's behhhddd

His name was Jury but yeah.

I agree. Jax, and Jury had an argument. They, were both pissed, and hurting. Accusations. Jax punches Jury. Jury pulls out his gun. Jax, shoots him dead. To me, it was self defense. However, the show is long over, and we can't change anything about it. SOA. One of the very best television series, ever made

@@jslain Jax struck first Jury was the one acting in self defense. Fuck jax

@@jslain How many times has Jax had a gun pulled on him and not been shot? 30? 40 perhaps? This is the one time he decided yeah fuck it im about to die?

@@randomrussianguy603 he got shot by a mayan in the first episode but he coincidentally had a vest on 😂 plot armor.

James Dick no it was Jury fool

Yeah when a Chapter President gets killed or banned from the MC, the Vice President takes place at the table and chooses another member to become a Vice President

Marcus Corona virus?

​@@floristkurt3052 corvinus from the Underworld movie

Jax punched Jury and knocked him over and knocked Jury's gun away from him. This mean Jax is armed and Jury is not. Jax's piece was on his hip and easily within reach. The truth is that Jury had JUST as much right to grab the gun in defense as Jax did.

It wasn’t no damn self defense. Jax literally admitted he was going to kill Jury without a vote when Jury straight up said “so what now you’re going to shoot me without a vote” and all Jax can do is rant about Jury being a traitor and to not blame him. Jax was going to kill him without a vote the entire time 😂 Anything else would just be Jax lying about his intentions and he’s enough of a liar already. I’d have zero respect for Jax. This was stupid writing. He’d already lied about it. He lied about he loved Jury. He didn’t even try to find out the truth and he didn’t remotely plan to take a vote. Jax was fake as hell by the end 😂 His dad and Jury and Piney ghost were spitting on his dead body.

White boi 98 that guy is Kevin Gage. He's in quite a few good films like Heat, and even did some voice acting as Roarke in Call of Duty Ghosts.

That's not Goldberg

mary turner I wish it was

its not goldberg dude

These people here... Thanks captains of the ss obvious as fuck.

EL Donjuan Jax: I know.

You can hear his accent in damn near every scene

Lol yep

His accent really came out during the last season

Now they sayin that he's trying to "retain" it.

Australian don’t you mean he sounds Australian in everything he’s acted in boi can’t do any other accent lmao

@@mickeymouse3933 well no he sounds a bit English because he's English I think he was born in Newcastle he certainly isn't an Australian

Forget the fact Jax murdered a fellow President; the only reason Jury was reaching for his weapon is a confrontation that Jax initiated and escalated. Jax couldn't even say for certain that Jury was even reaching for his gun (which by itself is highly specious), and that's if they decide to take the word of the killer about what his victim was doing. Lying about Jury confessing to a crime he never actually committed put the last nail in his coffin.

@@ranialjondi924 I mean Jury died with the gun in his hand, people were standing there watching.

Because Jax was intentioned to kill him since he decided to meet him so even if jury didn't go for his gun he would kill him in someway and Jury was aware about that and about what Jax was become, you can't blame him about trying to save his life before Jax kill him.

Through death, Jax found salvation

Have you seen his crazy brother on Mayans MC?

@@anthonycampos8057 Yep a total drug retard.

@@adityajejurkar He burned a guy alive

@@anthonycampos8057 Yeah I know

Their charters were strained to begin with since they forced the Patch Over in season one. Wish we had more Gaines in the show. The guy playing him is super talented.

This is comment is pretty damn underrated

After Jury literally asked ''are you going to kill me too jax?''

Who gives a fuck its a tv show

@@kameronabbasi1203 Yeah imagine discussing a TV show man

Yes. Except a bullet is much more Dangerous than a punch and Jury wanted him dead

Wasn't this show and also The Shieldbased on Shakespeare plays?

Sons of Anarchy was supposedly based off of Hamlet.

I think the biggest mistake SOA made in the finale was Gemma dying without knowing all the havoc she caused. If she would have known Jax was meeting mister Mayhem because he went on a murderous rampage after his mother killed his wife? That would have been the sweetest justice EVER. Knowing her killing Tara ultimately ended her sons life? The person she loved more than anything? Even if she lived with that knowledge for 2 mins before Jax put a bullet in the back of her head.

@@kikilu79 Except she didn’t love Jax. She didn’t love anyone, I doubt she even knows what that is. She was obsessed with her son which was unhealthy. A loving mother would never put his boy to a criminal world and constantly block his move whenever he wanted an out. And the knowledge wouldn’t have mattered anyway. She was alright with being an evil.

@@mdrasedulhoque992 Agree 100%. Her obsession ruined Jax’s life. Thankfully Abel and Thomas were saved from get claws.

​@@mdrasedulhoque992 your all stupid, it was her love that made her crazy

wilson blauheuer Because Jax didn't give him a chance to decide. he simply reached for his gun that fell off him, I think. secondly, Jax gave Jury a very hard punch after what he said about JT. Telling Jax something he didn't want to believe. That was what provoked it in the first place. But the meeting with Jury wasn't a meeting. That was a confrontation. Jax smelt blood. He wasn't interested in hearing Jury's side of the story. furthermore lets take a look at WHY this turned into a confrontation. Like maybe the fact that Jax had killed his son. FOR NO REASON. They just used them as the scapegoat for the Chinese ambush. And in spite of that, Jury wanting him dead, Jury did absolutely nothing.

At the time jax didn't know that was jury son because jury never said anything he was supposed to use people outside of the sons but he didn't.

no matter what else is going on- if a person draws a gun on another person. or attempts to draw a gun on another person, deadly force is legally authorized against the gun wielder. If you reach for a gun when in a physical conflict with someone, even if that gun fell from the sky, you can legally be subject to deadly force. No matter what happened in the surrounding circumstances, this situation is not a capital offense in any jurisdiction, although perhaps if one recognizes 'club rules' as a legitimate code of law, then it might be different.

@@wilsonblauheuer6544 lol way to ruin it..

They couldn't prove that Jury did pull out his gun, all they knew at this point was that Jax lied about Jury.

All of this was because of Gemma

never knew he was the President of the Indian Hills chapter

Bout time he got out of his fuckin hole.

TheDoctaJS 500

Greg Hunt Jr. "500 what, douchebag?"

Except you seem to forget that Jax put him in that situation. So you could argue it was self defence from Jury's side.

Jax may have had more sympathy from the court had he not lied and said Jury was the mole. Between that and the VP having witnessed the way it played out, Jax wasn't talking his way out of this one.

@@Orcawhale1 Uhm not exactly. He just punched him in the face,doesn’t mean Jury's next move would be pulling out his gun. And Jury was lying. Like he said he wanted Jax dead and he knew he couldn’t do it physically. So he made bullshit theories about his Dad to make him feel bad.

it didn’t matter Jax wanted to die anyways

Jax wanted to die bud. Hence his last words in this.

He's great in everything he does. T2, Sopranos, Walk the Line, The Unit, SOA/Mayans and so much more.

Me Too

I know and the hate Tara crew because she wanted to divorce and take her children from a serial killer. I would have ran as far away from that mad man too.

@@kikilu79 she should have moved somewhere else instead of running back to charming in the first place.

@@Taka-Kevz She should have went wherever the hell she wanted to go. Charming was her hometown too. Jax should be grateful Tara moved back home. She saved Abel because Jax married and started a family with a meth head. Then abandoned the meth head and the junky overdosed and almost killed poor Abel. You apparently didn’t get the gist of the finale. Jax admitted that Tara was right and his sons should not live this life. Remember I’m doing what I should have done while my wife was still alive. Stop SIMPING for gang banging thugs dude. It’s not a good look. Jackson killed himself and left his young sons with a junky and a gang banging pimp and? They’re still 100 thousand percent better off with Nero and Wendy than they would have been with Jax and Gemma. Not even remotely close to how much better off they would have been if Tara didn’t die and they were with her. If you had kids who would you rather have custody of them if you were dead? A junky whore and pimp, or an educated accomplished surgeon? Come on dude look at the bigger picture. Almost everyone would choose Tara over a junky and a former gang banger who sells men’s daughters bodies. Jax was no good for his sons that’s why he checked out and ran into a semi. He was a shitty father. I’m surprised the man remembered their names. 🤷🏼‍♀️. Soooo many people did not get the point of this show. Kurt Sutter made it abundantly clear that ‘THE LIFE’ was the antagonist. He’s literally screaming at you that this life is no good, especially for children.

It's the same with the Sopranos. All the Soprano characters with total piece of dog shit but because we "like them" the fans are always making excuses.

That's just it though, it exposed some pretty nasty stuff, but it wasn't the club commiting the worst acts. The clown assualting a child, children exploited for video, women tortured for video, corrupt government officials who killed people as setups, the list goes on. It's not like SAMCRO was going around committing violent acts for fun, despite them committing many despicable actions it wasn't evil intent.

But the whole reason they were their was to confront him for ratting them out witch he didnt do not did Jax have any proof of Jax should’ve called for a forum on this with the other presidents instead of killing without a vote Jax’s met up with jury with the intention of killing him

he was an fbi agent also before ^^

@@babalarassrah He's done FAR more than that. You should check his filmography.

@@peterlenham3180 terminator and x files are his famous works

@@babalarassrah Along with Walking Dead, Scorpion, True Blood, The Unit, Identity Thief, Bridge to Terabithia, Perry Mason, Spy Kids, Walk the Line, Stargate, Peacemaker, I could go on and on.

@@peterlenham3180 yeah but he make small appearances

Yeah, except he then fakes an escape from his execution, which nobody outside of SamCrow knows was staged. His reputation outside of charming is no different than clays.

Except Jury was put in that situation, which Jury damn knew well would result in his death.

@@Orcawhale1 thank God someone get the point! Jury was aware about the fact Jax want to kill him.