Part of me agrees, heck him. And yet part of me empathizes with a parent's love.

Jayce is what they're successfully doing with the Injustice Superman

Period.

FUCK YOU MARCUS. He's literally the only character that most people seem to dislike.

​@@tempesttossed6029yep!

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One of my favorite parts was how he was absolutely floored when he saw the the section of the trenches that Ekko has refurbished into a safe haven for his gang and that it could've been made by people so young. It really did show how out of touch he was about what mortal people are capable of, and you can just see him relearning old lessons he had long forgotten.

That ain't powder that's Jinx.

@@s.t2575 Boy have I got news for you

You'd love She-Ra, especially Entrapta. Her story also deals heavily with abandonment and struggles to fit in and be helpful. She doesn't undergo the same sort of downward spiral that Jinx does, but since Entrapta is written as autistic, she struggles with social interaction. She's a scientist and while she doesn't normally intend to cause harm with her experiments, instead wanting to help, she's often so invested in the science, (one of her special interests,) that she forgets to account for safety. [MINOR SPOILERS AHEAD] This leads to some of her experiments in the early seasons having rather disastrous consequences that would be taken a lot more seriously if it weren't for the show's TV-Y7 rating.

honestlyy, how did they not consider how easy it could be to use those for war T-T

Bs

@@cupcakemcsparklebutt9051 Which part?

The problem with that is LoL always shows revolutionries as evil. Every single time, even if they are opressed and getting murdered. It would be good, if not for that. The b.s. is the "good people" know about the toxin and all other problems they are creating. They know they are opressored and they are taking everying from the opressed (ressources, labour). They aren't good.

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Could not have said it better myself.

Jayce, a summary.

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Oh boy if you want to see a KZfaqr get real into it look up tbskyen. He does not hold back XD

@@ReiSilver I didn't expect another TB Skyen shout-out.

Nothing you have noted here is unique to Capitalism - in fact, Piltover is far, FAR closer to Feudal/Noble societies than Capitalist societies. You have a Ruling council, who are entirely disconnected from everything. You have all the major resources and wealth tied up in a Noble class, who are Noble by birth, not by action. You have a gatekeeping institution (the Academy) controlled by that Noble class which is the ONLY way for people outside of that Noble class to get ahead. You funnel all official progress through that institution so that the noble class can control it - literally controlling all the progress. All trade in the city is controlled by that Noble class. At no time does literally buying your way into power enter any conversations, at all. It's not even clear that money can get you ahead in Piltover, which is one of the few unique hallmarks of Capitalist societies - in a Capitalist society, you can brute-force your way to the top with money in ways you can't do in any other kind of society. There's no indication that this is possible in Piltover, or if anyone even considers it a possibility. The fact that no one even considers going behind the Council's back to create and sell Hextech to the masses is a very, VERY powerful piece of evidence that Capitalism is not even present in Piltover as a concept. There wasn't even the idea to rally the people to oppose the Council (something that is powerful in Capitalism, but not unique to it) - the ONLY thought was how to control the Council in order to enact the changes they wanted to enact. It could even be argued that far from being a Capitalist Society, Piltover is the ANTITHESIS of a Capitalist society. Hell, if anything, ZAUN is the Capitalist side in this equation. ZAUN is the one who is turning to Capitalism (the darker, shadier, ethic-less side of Capitalism that no one with a moral compass supports). It's in Zaun where Money brings you power. It's Zaun where Money and Power is what rules, not some council (They tried to set up their own council, but it was made crystal clear that the council is not particularly powerful - Silco is where all the power is, and he's allowing others to have power as long as it works in his favour) or Gov't of any kind. It's in Zaun where you see the excesses of the Industrial Revolution associated with Capitalism (the kids working in the Chemtech factory), where you see life being reduced to a monetary value, where "You're dead because you're costing me money." is exposed. Zaun is where your name means nothing, and it's all about what you as an individual can bring to a situation. (how many of those Piltover councilors earned their place by deeds, and how many were simply born in the right house at the right time, and were handed the seat by inheritance, I wonder?) While the kids working in unsafe conditions and life being reduced to an arbitrary value have also been around far longer than Capitalism... the depictions of it in Arcane are most definitely drawing on the critiques of Capitalism, so absolutely deserve to be mentioned here. Piltover is Aristocracy run amok, only with a Technological flavour instead of a Medieval flavour. Zaun is Robber Baron Capitalism run amok, with the twist that the oppressed underclass (which has been present in all civilizations we've ever known about, far before Capitalism) has turned to Capitalism in a desperate search for something to fight their Noble Class oppressors with.

@@thatotherguy8138 Yeah you explained it perfectly, I don't know why people instinctively called Piltover a capitalisy nation. When they clearly shown the importance of nobility in episode, where they indicated Jayce's family coming from a lower house.

@@thatotherguy8138 o.o

Silco gives me creepy vibes whenever he interacts with Jinx. "Love" maybe, but not a father's platonic love.

Silco was just ahead of the curve. He knew exactly what needed to be done to strike at Piltover and he reached for it with everything he had. Did nothing wrong!

@@TwinkHerder if he really was ahead of the curve, he would make himself army of purple hulks and torn down Pilltower much faster. Unless letting himself be killed by traumatised teenager was part of his masterplan to destroy government. Besides - Pilltower Under Silco Would Be Nightmarish, Social-Darwinist Regime And We All Know That

@@adamf.charles5857 he did have an army of shimmer-fuelled dudes that were way more stable than Deckard was. Unleashing things like them was his plan pre-timeskip before things changed between act 1 and 2. One thing I will admit is act 1 Silco seems to be more of an actual revolutionary than post time skip.

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Yes, it's why I'm disappointed by the flimsy development between Vi and Cait. There's so much there that could parallel the relationship between Jayce and Maderda. Or even a contrast to the relationship between Silco and Jinx.

@@tempesttossed6029 I don't think there's anything filmsy with any of the characters. The act of paralleling one character's arc and actions is dependent on how the viewer interprets the text. Like, I said Heidegger and Vander. Both have symmetry to their character. Knowing about Heidegger's immortality and Vander's previous as a failed revolutionary just cements that, in my opinion. Of course, there is a 2nd season under development and it took 6 years to develop the first season and it'll more likely further empathize more of this stuff.

@@jdellabeat6245 Fair enough.

@@tempesttossed6029 I would love your take on my comment. I'm sure you've got a good one.

yo ho, yo ho matey, thar be othaaaar, less travelled seas which can grant you what you wish, aye

@@WmJared Aye, thar be

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Or the throne struggles in Ixaocan

Oh gods, he's WORSE?? I don't know how that's even POSSIBLE!

@@Readus101 I think season two will show us the straw that will break the camels back (Viktor's friendship) aka blitzcranks and maybe zac's creation BTW Legends of runeterra might be a better choice

@@Readus101 Apparently he is a complete narcissist

@@Readus101 Jayce is more self absorbed in league lore, in Arcane he still seems to at least give a shit. Season 2 will tell if he ends up going more in that direction. It will be interesting to see how he gets there if he does.

Did you go through the In-Client game that came out with Arcane, where you were playing the part of a literal League player brought into Runeterra by some accident? If you haven't, part of that *non-canon!* game was that there was a multiverse, and one of the missions Heimer sent you on was to find another Heimer to get a second opinion from. That second Heimer? Every answer was "A TURRET!", with the occasional "A BIGGER TURRET!". I think what they're saying with that was that Arcane was a different reality than League of Legends or Runeterra, so our favourite little "How am I going to stop some big mean mother hubbard from tearing me a structurally superfluous new behind? The answer...use a turret. And if that don't work ...use more turret." Heimer from League and Legends of Runeterra isn't the same as the Heimer from Arcane.

But don’t you think that an arrogant person wouldn’t be so hesitant? Jayce still opens up to people like heimerdinger and vi. For instance, jayce wanted to start selling the updated gemstones, yet he decides to set back those plans for security purposes. On the other hand, Vi stood with him as he was the only councilor who wanted to take action for the underground’s sake. In short, Jayce is open-minded, perhaps too open-minded, and makes sacrifices, whether it’d be the financial hit his business will take for postponing his groundbreaking product, or that he accepts the fact that his days as a councilor are, most likely, over.

@@jumbojoe3030 exactly

@@jumbojoe3030 yeeesss to this!!

U sympathies with jinx and the people of zaun coz they are the main characters of arcane not becoz they are a 100% correct...same as in real life....we only care about the place where we belong to or we have seen more of...we dont see the other side of the story.....the deal was nessesary to make sure the inforcers wont have to get into their violet ways....what do u think will happen now after jinx bombed the council....mel will probably die and jayce will weaponize hextech and become the villian everyone wants him to be just becoz he is from an elite family in piltover

@@shivamsud There is no "Other side to the story" when it come to oppressor and oppressed. The only other side are the Tales oppressors spin to justify their actions or maintain their power and supremacy, or the tales their benefactors spin. Two sided only apply amongst equals or peers in power, ability. Just Like Noxxus and Ionia are not equals one is an Aggressor the other a Defender.

@@I.Simmonds well think about it....when they robbed jayces apartment and blew it up....what if some innocents died....its not their fault whats happening in Zaun they are just average citizens....for them Vi and Her friends would be the bad guys....im just saying its not as straight forward as u think....zaun is not all bad becoz of the upper City but also becoz of the curruption caused by its own members like silco

Well she was kinda meant as the Harley Quinn of LoL :)

FR. JID’s verse brings the song from a B to an A++++++. I was sad not to hear it in the actual show.

I agree! do not get into the league of salt. Although get into the lore, it's pretty cool.

I don't see it as tragic at all. As Reedus pointed out, Jayce is effectively just throwing his hands up and said, "I give up. I rather be here than there" It's basically just cementing that Piltover is just ignoring its own issues rather than actively like giving health care to people on the street.

Everyone does what is easy. Few do what is right.

​@@jdellabeat6245 I can see that read, but I don't think that's the show's read. This makes the ending make no sense. There's this sad tragic song, closing out with 'what could have been' as Jinx's blast hits the council chamber. Silco, stressed and seemingly honest, tells Vander that its 'everything we ever wanted'. The two points stressed about the accord are that Zahn will be autonomous, and that this deal will stop any fighting. The show really seems to think the deal is a good thing. If it doesn't, why make that ending so downbeat? Wouldn't this be happy? Silco is dead, the deal gone, and a revolution coming. "What could've been? Err... probably a kinda crappy timeline with a drug boss. Revolution time, baby!" That's not saying the deal *is* good, it ain't, just that the show thinks it's good. It feels like Arcane just sorta forgot that Silco is this tough crime boss who ruins lives once we get to act three. He's shown as politically weak, physically trembling, and shown to genuinely care about Jinx. There's nothing in his conversation with Jayce that really supports the idea that this deal will profit him specifically - logically that's the case, but the story's more interested in the ideological temptation of giving the would be Founder of Zahn exactly what he wanted. 'This will turn me a tidy personal profit' never seems to enter into it.

@@Croakamancer Thanks. I think you have a really good reading of Silco. TB Skyen, who I've mentioned for the third time now lol, said in a livestream before the final act was released, "Silco is politically unfulfilled" or something to that effect. Silco strives for Zahn to be independent, but the problem lies in how he's going to implement change. The show never gave us his policies or reforms. He's a revolutionary in spirit, but in all of his action speak otherwise.

Arcane is amazing and I love it but I understand why people would avoid it because Riot bad reputation

@@mohamednail1707 thx for understanding and I didn’t expect a comment tbh

To be fair, I don't know if this is a good or a bad thing, riot is only average in harassment in big gaming companies (EA, Activision-Blizzard flashbacks)

I don't think the idea of adding common enemy somewhat detracts the conflict that the show is actively focusing on.

@@jdellabeat6245 I see now! But at least may given the characters time for interractions.

@@bencebotye3904 I think that's the problem with episode format more than anything. This is structured for 3 acts with 3 episodes accordingly. If Season 2 were to be conceptualized, it'll more likely follow that. My one gripe with this structure was that I wish I could see more Vander and how he interacts with the rest of Zaun, and the girl that had a crush on Viktor, she was a plot device more than anything. I wasn't really emotional with her unfortunate death as I was far more interested in bisexual disaster Jace and with his two relationship lol.

@@jdellabeat6245 I assume you refear to "Viktor", but has to agreed, was a waste of potential. Specially that seemed to me that they wanted to make him dirty by cause someone's death, even as an accident. However we can undestand that, as a they signal that the two faction can do wonderful things if they work together. Difficult to judge on the creators baset on what a wonderful piece of animation they did!

@@bencebotye3904 I think that's why Viktor's character is always tied to death and how our environment could be better if we give people as Ekko said, "You have to give people more than survival, they have to live". He's a physical representation of it.

I'm all for politics, but isn't a bit of a overreaction. I don't he was trying to conflate the two subject. He was just using in that specific lens.

Tell us how you REALLY feel.

@@nooooooooope3809 Is the comment directed at me? I mean, I liked the show and Laron's analysis is in good faith with the themes of the show.