The New Poll Tax? What is "EV Poverty" and Why We Should All be Concerned

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JayEmm on Cars

JayEmm on Cars

Жыл бұрын

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In today's video, I discuss a very real issue facing today's motorists - the increasingly large divide between those who can afford an EV (or Electric car) and those who cannot. With deadlines now in place restricting the usage of many fossil fuel vehicles, and bans coming on the sale of new ICE products - are EVs a realistic and practical solution for all?
Today, in response to a comment that I see frequently I address one very specific part of the EV debate that I feel is often overlooked, yet key.
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@JayEmmOnCars
@JayEmmOnCars Жыл бұрын
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@matthewstone1362
@matthewstone1362 Жыл бұрын
U may be a bit chubby. You do have a flowery shirt, you may come across as whingey/ranty. But you made some excellent points. 👏
@kalmmonke5037
@kalmmonke5037 Жыл бұрын
how about recycling batteries instead of junkyarding them, theres redwood company... for now almost none of them are recyled, should be keeping them from being wasted so we can really make use of it all. so hybrids lower emissions with limited supply better than ev, because its thaat non optimal rpm and low speed high pushing power situations where lot of the work is done, and done better by electrics. what battery size is best for longveity? the more parrallaels you add, the more divded across many cells the degradation is, but effiency goes down exponentially so increased energy flow worsens things... i guess a plug in hybrid would be best(133mpge previous generaiton prius prime, charged by house charger overnight). see aptera onwers club vide on saftey, lightweight is safer for people in others weaker cars in crash, and less road wear(cost in emisions, resources, money etc). what is cheaper to own in money and time?(i guess a used market prius prime) .
@RikAindow
@RikAindow Жыл бұрын
Thanks for just linking to them instead of taking up 5 mins of my time talking about them like some other channels do! 😀
@SuperiorNo1
@SuperiorNo1 Жыл бұрын
Illuminati Tax🔺👁️😈
@fortheloveofnoise9298
@fortheloveofnoise9298 Жыл бұрын
Really respect you for this video.
@grrfy
@grrfy Жыл бұрын
turning all cars back into a luxury for the rich ,rather than a tool for the rest of us.
@Neojhun
@Neojhun Жыл бұрын
Sure lets keep burning expensive difficult to extract Liquid Fuel.
@R03333
@R03333 Жыл бұрын
@@Neojhun let's maybe target the crude tanker ships burning much more energy to transport millions of tonnes of useless tatt
@enol8603
@enol8603 Жыл бұрын
​@@Neojhun As opposed to inefficient, toxic and requiring lots of energy to mine and make "green energy"???
@grrfy
@grrfy Жыл бұрын
@@Neojhun lithium is harder to mine.and less of it.
@fortheloveofnoise9298
@fortheloveofnoise9298 Жыл бұрын
its 1903 all over again
@petea7323
@petea7323 Жыл бұрын
People in London probably wouldn’t believe that I live in a rural area with the nearest train station a 15 minute drive away. Busses when they run, routes are extremely limited and don’t go where I need to go or at a time that is of any use to me. Driving is completely essential to me and our entire community. I am someone that can’t afford a newer car, this new world order completely sickens me. I don’t know where we are all heading.
@larrylacy5453
@larrylacy5453 Жыл бұрын
We’re heading for a cross between the dark ages and Hunger Games.
@arnaudmenard5114
@arnaudmenard5114 Жыл бұрын
Woe is me... 15min drive to the bus stop? Really that's easy. Here in my corner of Canada, buses only run once ever half hour, and stop at 9pm. Also don't even think about trains...via rail is like buying a plane ticket! You need to weigh your baggage, wait for hours and pay hundreds for your ticket! Edit: I sound bitter about it, but really I just want better buses, trams, and bicycle paths. If I can live the rest of my life without having to drive, it would make me happier.
@TheMicro4
@TheMicro4 Жыл бұрын
@@arnaudmenard5114 You have a bus? In rural Pennsylvania where I live the nearest bus is a 30 min drive. There is one gas station 5 mins away, the next closest gas station is 15 mins away. Major transport hubs such as train stations are 1 hour away. Also train travel is basically the same here.
@Ssyphoned
@Ssyphoned Жыл бұрын
@@TheMicro4 you’re all saying the same thing: Transportation is good. ICE car is transportation. ICE car is good. We all agree.
@jessicamason2526
@jessicamason2526 Жыл бұрын
sadly people don't see this is all about control, they want us on electricity as it's a lot easier to flip a switch and cut us off if we don't "behave" then if we had other means of living off the grid... one of these programs are a one thing, combine it with the gas stove ban that has resurfaced in the US, the 15 minute city concept being pushed in parts of Europe, especially in Britian, and too many other programs to list here, and it's easy to see a pattern.
@linwoodnymph6113
@linwoodnymph6113 Жыл бұрын
I respect that you are sensitive to those who are not as fortunate as you. It's a rare trait to be wealthy yet sympathetic to the plight of the regular people. Kudos!
@rabbitboy008
@rabbitboy008 Жыл бұрын
Totally Agree
@SteveEddy-od7fb
@SteveEddy-od7fb 6 ай бұрын
Like Nancy pelosi said us peasants
@capn_shawn
@capn_shawn Жыл бұрын
I recently rented a hybrid/electric car and drove it between St.Louis and Chicago 4x over 1250 miles. I tried charging it no fewer than 8 times and each time the charger was broken, the line 5-6 cars deep or it would only take a certain app that linked to my credit card. I just filled the tank with gas.
@aitorbleda8267
@aitorbleda8267 Жыл бұрын
You got the wrong car and used it on the wrong scenario Electrify America etc are really bad.. sadly for your scenario it is better to have a gas car or a Tesla. Electric cars are amazing if you can charge them at home.. and for long range drives they are ok
@capn_shawn
@capn_shawn Жыл бұрын
@@aitorbleda8267 obviously the wrong car. I rented 27 different cars last year, only the one was electric. It is no wonder why Teslas are always the slowest cars on the road. They may have the ability to go fast, but the drivers know they better not drain that battery because the only reliable charge is at their house and they have to make it back there.
@lesrush6298
@lesrush6298 Жыл бұрын
You should of got the self charging hybrid it’s fuss free and no need to stop multiple times
@nedmurry7283
@nedmurry7283 Жыл бұрын
​@@lesrush6298 That or he didn't switch the system on when driving. (Thought all hybrids have the battery recharge whilst driving on fuel)
@aera6413
@aera6413 Жыл бұрын
@Ned Murry I've never heard about the need to "switch" on a system. Can you give an example of a car where thus is necessary?
@WolfsGamingBlog
@WolfsGamingBlog Жыл бұрын
One of the most baffling things, to me, is the plan to shift everyone to EV when we currently can't even generate enough electricity to cover current usage. Just months ago we were discussing the possibility of rolling blackouts, various companies have gone broke and the energy producers aren't being regulated. And yet they think they can get this sorted within a decade? I can barely affort petrol for my car, and am struggling to pay the electric bill. So basically, I'm fucked either way, it seems.
@nigelliam153
@nigelliam153 Жыл бұрын
It's all about controlling the lower classes. We don't have enough raw materials to replace every petrol vehicle with EV. Once the fossil fueled vehicles are off the road , EV price will soar as there won't be enough to go around, hence the poor will be house bound or sruck on public transport.
@AdeboFunkyVoodoo
@AdeboFunkyVoodoo Жыл бұрын
​@@nigelliam153 nonsense.
@nigelliam153
@nigelliam153 Жыл бұрын
@@AdeboFunkyVoodoo so where is all the copper cobalt and lithium going to come from? Since the start of the industrial revolution there has never been a decade where we've double our supply of base metals. We will have to increase the above 4 fold just to replace every petrol car with an EV by 2035, it won't happen, so if the WEF gets its way the stupid Europeans are going to be a stuck in their 15 minute cities borrowing communal EVs due to lack of supply Eating bugs.
@RobertRedford77
@RobertRedford77 Жыл бұрын
@@AdeboFunkyVoodoo he's correct
@nosferatut9084
@nosferatut9084 Жыл бұрын
This is deliberate so they can introduce energy rationing to keep you imprisoned your own neighbourhood.
@jeremytoms5163
@jeremytoms5163 Жыл бұрын
Agree 100% with this. I’m one of those people who has a cheap car,£500, as my only means of transport. I’m disabled and a carer for my daughter. Twice a week she goes to therapy in a neighbouring town. By car it’s 45minutes each way and it’s calm as she’s in an environment she knows and is not over stimulated. Two weeks ago my car broke down so we had to go by bus , 2hrs there and 2hours back. It was hell, she just couldn’t cope at all. Ended up jury rigging my car to run just to get her there and back calmly, until I could afford the correct part for the engine. There is no way in hell can I afford to buy,let alone run an EV. Just not possible. Public transport just doesn’t work in my area, taxi would be £35 each way. As for heating, I’ve turned mine down as much as I can and still keep her comfortable but I still reckon I will be stuck when the bill becomes due. Like many others, my income isn’t keeping pace with rampant inflation. As the saying goes “the rich get richer,while the poor just get poorer “.
@Lookup2Wakeup
@Lookup2Wakeup Жыл бұрын
Get use to it as it's coming to all poor people...👍
@hughrobinson9978
@hughrobinson9978 Жыл бұрын
Jeremy, my heart goes out to you - please see my comment above. Inflation is a tax on those less well off in society. Public transport is no solution for you and your daughter. You are especially reliant on your private vehicle - it's not a luxury for you or many other people. Without it your and your daughter's quality of life would be severely diminished and this cannot be allowed to happen. We need to debate this in the public sphere, or we will have no say in what will be a complete change in the way our government prices our freedom to have private transportation.
@davekennedy6315
@davekennedy6315 Жыл бұрын
I am a single parent with a cheap and cheerful car that can't afford anything better as my money goes on housing, food, gas, electric and everything else. I can't see me EVER being able to afford a brand new car. I buy cars that are at least 10 years old, these bloody EVs don't even last that long and buying a new battery for one is almost as much as buying a new bloody car! These EVs will be thrown away long before they come down in price enough for me to afford one. EVs should NOT be our future, we are already in a massive energy crisis and the more that buy EVs the worst that will get. They aren't particularly cheap to run either. They will also be more damaging to the environment unless huge changes occur in how we get our electric that is used to charge the bloody things up! At the moment the vast majority of our power is coming from........coal burning power stations! Bloody wind farms and solar power (surely a joke in the UK!) don't produce anywhere near enough power for us now, let alone with the increasing numbers of EVs. We are just not ready for wide spread use of EVs and believing that we are is delusional.
@jamesstanley7263
@jamesstanley7263 Жыл бұрын
I do feel for you but you are completely wrong on a number of points: 1. EV’s will last far longer than 10 years, and there is far less to go wrong when they do. (There are plenty of high mileage Leafs running around absolutely perfectly already) 2. Most of our electricity comes from natural gas, not coal. That’s far from ideal, but not the disaster the media make it out to be. 3. By 2030 the infrastructure will be in place, just look at how far we have come in the last 3/4 years. 2030 ICE ban is still 7 years away…
@miskatonic6210
@miskatonic6210 Жыл бұрын
Ever heard of car sharing?
@genosho5574
@genosho5574 Жыл бұрын
Your points are absolutely valid and I totally agree. With all the pushing, not just for EVs, lately it seems that our governments are trying to reinstate a two class society. Freedom of travel is just one of many things that are a thorn in their eyes.
@tehagent1321
@tehagent1321 5 ай бұрын
This is pretty much what Ive been thinking. They also get to control us two ways: one by controlling where our money goes and another by shorter ranges hampered by long charging times.
@kossgroupllc9196
@kossgroupllc9196 Жыл бұрын
As an American, I am so pleased to hear that it's not just Americans that feel this way!!! Thank you!!!
@Zoodgart
@Zoodgart Жыл бұрын
Very well put . I've got a 1991 Toyota Surf which I've owned the last for 17 years. "Polluting dirty diesel 4x4." I've been told. "How many cars have you had in that time?" Is my question to them. Then the realism of it all comes to fruition .
@chadwells7562
@chadwells7562 Жыл бұрын
I’d bet you’ve actually saved 5x the carbon emissions keeping the impossible to kill Toyota that long than had you bought and replaced several EV cars in that time
@MirceaAgrigoroaie
@MirceaAgrigoroaie Жыл бұрын
Same, I had my diesel shitty Dacia for 13 years.. got only 180k km's on the odometer.. I believe a properly maintained old diesel car used once or twice a week for shopping is more ecofriendly than an EV. I'm going for a thank of diesel every month and a half ... maybe even 2 months.. you're telling me that an EV used every day and that cannot be resold because of the range loss or recycled after 5 years is better?
@solitaryclusterofneurons598
@solitaryclusterofneurons598 Жыл бұрын
I've been saying this for years! Really the only thing that kills modern (EFI) cars (prior to planned obsolescence cars of the past decade) is corrosion and neglected maintainence. Corrosion can be addressed with welding at a local body shop, and maintainence, well, just stick to the manufacturers servicing schedule and you'll be fine. Not only are you being lest wasteful by keeping an older car allowing it to have a longer lifespan, you're also keeping local businesses alive! But that's not the government/car manufacturer's agenda is it? I have a 1.6 petrol 2006 Citroen C2 which is one of the last mechanically-simple/basic-electronics cars, and that 1996-2010 era of Peugeot-Citroen cars are all built from the same parts bin so spares are plenty. Always kept it well maintained, and this summer I'm going to shell out for some welding work on the arches and sills, and maybe a refurbed rear beam. Will cost more than the value of the car to do but that's not the point, and will still be far more affordable than forking out for a new EV. If we get to the point where the government is absolutely hellbent on forcing ICE cars off the road, then I'm only going to get it EV converted lol. You've got to be joking if you think my hard earned cash is ever going on a subscription to activate my windscreen wipers or whatever the fuck bullshit the upper middle classes will lap up in droves in the name of status symbolism and delusions of grandeur.
@kdenyer1
@kdenyer1 Жыл бұрын
Same with me have defender for at least 25 years. What do people think once the majority of people are running electric ⚡️. Electricity will not be as cheep your smart charger will tell your utility how much you have used and low and behold there is a good lump of fuel tax.
@alexsmith358
@alexsmith358 Жыл бұрын
Can’t even guarantee to be able to park in my street. Just as well I run a 2002 crv.
@AgentSmith911
@AgentSmith911 Жыл бұрын
It's the same thing here in Norway. Rich people who can pay for a brand new Tesla, don't have to pay for the road tolls and can drive in the bus lane. It's slowly changing back to normal for EV owners, but that's just because almost all new cars sold these days are EVs. Poor people or working class people who drive 15 year old cars, don't get any benefits of the EV craze.
@AmateurBMS
@AmateurBMS Жыл бұрын
I have a 15 year old diesel car, but of course I’ll swap it for an electric when it’s done.
@AgentSmith911
@AgentSmith911 Жыл бұрын
@@AmateurBMS With what, though? There aren't that many good, cheap EVs that can replace an old diesel, especially if you plan on using it for anything else than daily commutes shorter than 50 km (a friend of mine bought the 1 st gen Leaf and he got 100 km range during summer and 45 km during winter).
@someone1tohold
@someone1tohold Жыл бұрын
HOW MANY POOR PEOPLE DO YOU KNOW DRIVE 30,000 CARS ANYWAY. stop conning people.
@AgentSmith911
@AgentSmith911 Жыл бұрын
@@someone1tohold What are you even talking about. Where did I say poor people buy €30 000 cars?
@someone1tohold
@someone1tohold Жыл бұрын
@@AgentSmith911 that's the problem, you didn't. you bitched about ev's and then like you've been watching foux news's left out current car's. like a horse to the carrot you didn't look to either side or outside that drawn out guided path they set you upon.
@skyline3694
@skyline3694 Жыл бұрын
This is probably my favourite video of yours James, I also think it's the most important, more people need to speak up about this. I hate the way governments have been force feeding us EV's, it's seemed fishy to me from the start. Let people decide what they want to buy, let the free market do it's job. I completely agree with you, it's just a tax on the poor. It's absolutely ridiculous and cruel that somebody who can spend $100,000-$170,000 on a Tesla or electric Porsche is exempt from these new charges, but a cleaner on minimum wage who can only afford a 2004 Astra has to pay. Ironically, keeping an older car running is much better for the environment that mining lithium and cobalt to build a brand new electric car. The worst part is the massive lie that it's for the sake of "the environment", give me a break, the government couldn't care less about the environment, they just want more of our money to spend.
@johnshaw3208
@johnshaw3208 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for bringing up very valid points. It's often the less fortunate that suffer in situations like this.
@MundoOval
@MundoOval Жыл бұрын
I totally agree. EVs should be an option, not forced to us as the only option
@Neojhun
@Neojhun Жыл бұрын
That's not even possible due to Manufacturing Supply Chain limitations. You are just pushing an absurd political agenda.
@hansbambach4854
@hansbambach4854 Жыл бұрын
Exactly
@ProdicalMan
@ProdicalMan Жыл бұрын
You gotta love it politicians think they are smarter than the free market.
@FFVoyager
@FFVoyager Жыл бұрын
They are. 🤷
@helder6175
@helder6175 Жыл бұрын
What I've been saying all along as soon as the Leftists (or as I call them "knuckleheads" to put it nicely) in America and in Europe that have been proposing and pushing to go all-electric by fifteen years or less from now. Such insanity. It's like they don't know what they're talking about but know exactly what they're doing with that going green (more like "cha-ching!" 💵💶) malarkey. It should only be an option to own an EV rather than be imposed upon the general public as many won't have the access and convenience to "fill up" as easily and quickly as a regular ICE car. The planet is doing fine, really. The people are not as so many gullible folks are falling for this huge scam. By the way, I have two ICE cars and one EV. The EV is an "investment" to save money on fuel for the daily drives of at least 50 miles/80km per day. Now let's see how the car holds up in five years from now. Maybe what I've saved during that time will be spent on replacing the battery or fixing the software/hardware issues. Only time will tell.
@Saturatefilming
@Saturatefilming Жыл бұрын
This really hits home for me. I live in South London within the ULEZ zone. Myself and my partner have and use quite frequently a VW Transporter for camping and other various outdoor activities. Our van, a 2002 T4 cost us £2k to buy. A ULEZ compliant 2017 T6 would set us back a minimum of £25k for a similar specification. Thus meaning we would have to drive every day for more than 5 years in order to recoup the cost of ULEZ at £12.50. Beyond this Lewisham Council have started penalising owners of older vehicles by charging them almost double for a parking permit to park outside their own home in comparison to a ULEZ compliant vehicle. I fully agree with cleaning the air within the city and see the need for a crack down pollution, however wouldn't a charge for commuters traveling solo in a 10mpg SUV in and out of the city daily be more appropriate?! The ULEZ in its current form IS a poor tax, I would love to drive a newer less polluting Van or even an electric one if they make one with good range, but when the cost of even an almost 10 year old model is more than my yearly income that's just not feasible.
@clusterm2
@clusterm2 Жыл бұрын
Consider this when it comes to voting for you local councillors...and mayor 😉
@brianjones4026
@brianjones4026 Жыл бұрын
@@clusterm2 Im sorry to say that almost all councillors are on board with this WEF plan to put is back into the dark ages as they become the new lords of the land and us their serfs or worse .....ie we are not even here !!!!
@bugsy742
@bugsy742 Жыл бұрын
Mate you don’t still believe in voting do you?
@crackhead187
@crackhead187 Жыл бұрын
Time to move out of London perhaps
@STho205
@STho205 Жыл бұрын
Escape to the Country Bring your wife.
@daveandrew8845
@daveandrew8845 Жыл бұрын
Totally agree with what you say. Personally had ordered an ev and with delays I canceled it a bought something else. Dodged a bullet on that one. With electric cost increasing I calculated that we'd be paying more per mile than good old petrol...
@cheekyfella4771
@cheekyfella4771 Жыл бұрын
What a courageous and honest rant. They don't care about us at the bottom. We'll get on with it. But it's so encouraging to see blokes, who don't have to, say what we need said. Good on ya mate.
@michaelarcher6278
@michaelarcher6278 Жыл бұрын
A brilliant and very truthful video, well done James. I totally support you.
@Neojhun
@Neojhun Жыл бұрын
Logical Fallacy is not truthful. This is just fear mongering of an impossible outcome.
@JayEmmOnCars
@JayEmmOnCars Жыл бұрын
Next time you make this comment Neojhun, you're gonna have to explain it. Evidence please or I'll unpack the ban hammer to stop you spamming the comments section
@barbarusbloodshed6347
@barbarusbloodshed6347 Жыл бұрын
Should also be noted that there are many countries where EV owners have to pay less or no (road) taxes on their cars. Which is crazy. They can afford these expensive cars and then they just don't have to pay taxes? While the poor person in the old hatchback still has to do so? And those taxes are used to maintain the roads, so basically the poor people are paying so that the rich people can drive their expensive EVs over those roads. It's complete insanity.
@Neojhun
@Neojhun Жыл бұрын
@@JayEmmOnCars I did explain it in my main comment on the youtube upload. Soo i'm going to repeat it again. Your fear mongering scenario is not possible. People are not being forced to gets EVs because the manufacturing supply simply does not exist. Sure politicians are making empty promises to ban New ICE cars in the near future. But that's when they will be long gone out of the spotlight and let the next generation to reneg on those silly deadlines. It's going to take more than 2 decades to get anywhere close to majority of the new car market. Fact is there is not enough BEVs in EXISTENCE.
@Chrus600
@Chrus600 Жыл бұрын
@@barbarusbloodshed6347 and don’t forget that those EVs are mostly much heavier than ICE vehicles, so cause way more road damage.
@Riki-io4yd
@Riki-io4yd Жыл бұрын
Thank you for caring about classism. I'm on the other side of the pond, where class warfare is in full swing. I lived in a Scion Xbox for fourteen months, after losing my farm in 2020. It took an incredible amount of work to get myself housed again. Adapting to an electric future isn't on the table, because I live in marginal housing with no garage, make little money, and may well be moving into my car again soon.
@Longsnowsm
@Longsnowsm Жыл бұрын
We have to pull together and form our own communities outside of "their" control. Only working as groups can we get the resources we need to be able to accomplish what is needed.
@davidthegolfer
@davidthegolfer Жыл бұрын
So very sorry to hear of your situation. We should value our comfort and security here. Good luck for the future, from the UK
@julianevans9548
@julianevans9548 Жыл бұрын
Only when we get rid of capitalism will our societies change from ones where many, many people must suffer so that a very small minority live in vast wealth. Capitalism works perfectly - because this is its intention.
@Ryan-lo1kg
@Ryan-lo1kg Жыл бұрын
There is no political party that represents the working class.
@kowkes
@kowkes Жыл бұрын
Well said. Mandating has rarely worked. I have this conversation with my family and car enthusiast friends. I have a 1984 944, 2002 996 and a 09 jetta wagon. What is rarely discussed is that my cars major impact on the environment was during their build cycle. And that was 20 years ago. If we take that into consideration my fleet is way more environmentally friendly than a new EV, PHEV, HYBRID and the lot. We always skip over the cost to product new cars. I'm taking my cape off now. Thanks for putting yourself out there. You and Harry Metcalfe and Iain Tyrrell should get together and shoot a video on the electricification of the world.
@leftoverbacon
@leftoverbacon Жыл бұрын
“mandating has rarely worked” I hope you feel the same way about parking mandates and restrictive single use zoning. Without those, the demand for cars would have never reached current levels, and we’d still have walkable neighborhoods everywhere.
@bugsygoo
@bugsygoo 9 ай бұрын
That is simply wrong. EVs have a significant impact on the environment and they are far from the ideal transport solution environmentally, but in therms of Co2, EVs pay for themselves pretty quick. It takes about a year to achieve carbon parity. And remember, the thing that creates the higher Co2 emissions is the battery, which can be recycled. Your petrol can never be recycled. Your petrol can only ever create Co2. Electricity can be created without Co2.
@adeptusmagi
@adeptusmagi Жыл бұрын
Very well put If every car is an EV there is the fact that all EVs will be wanting to charge overnight and so over night electricity will no longer be off peak due to every car on the road wanting to charge at that time so off peak prices will possibly disappear !
@leadfoot8593
@leadfoot8593 Жыл бұрын
Yeah cause everyone works 9-5
@nickhardiman2142
@nickhardiman2142 Жыл бұрын
I'm glad someone is seeing and saying the current car situation as it really is. 100% agree with you on this.
@zagan1
@zagan1 Жыл бұрын
The people who own an ev and actually drive it (instead of garaging it 90% of the year) will say this stuff as well. Some even complain about the costs of fast chargers saying they cost more than petrol cars.
@jsanders100
@jsanders100 Жыл бұрын
@@zagan1 wrong, I drive my EV daily. No problems.
@rogergeyer9851
@rogergeyer9851 Жыл бұрын
Nick: But the world changes, fairly rapidly, as it will CONTINUE to do for EV's. The problem will take care of itself -- arm waving not needed. It's called economics.
@Drilling249
@Drilling249 Жыл бұрын
@@jsanders100 cool, wanna buy me one with all the money you're saving on not buying gas? I can't afford to buy a new car right now, full stop.
@WaltANelsonPHD
@WaltANelsonPHD Жыл бұрын
Made it to the end. EV hype is being fact checked by EV reality. Thank you for your observations.
@alanhat5252
@alanhat5252 Жыл бұрын
Nothing wrong with EVs, it's Government policies that's causing the problems.
@waynefisher4296
@waynefisher4296 Жыл бұрын
Still in denial. EV's to many people are a useless proposition. Especially here in Australia where travel distances are massive.
@toyotaprius79
@toyotaprius79 Жыл бұрын
​@@alanhat5252 this is what no one wants to confront The politics, the contextual history. But it's much easier to be sold a brexit pup than to identify the litany of policy failures and austerity that made the conditions for misery and decline.
@carterrk
@carterrk Жыл бұрын
Well this is the plan. “You will own nothing and be happy” from the WEF.
@ukpitts
@ukpitts Жыл бұрын
Hats off to you James. Many good points & big respect for not joining the ranks of content providers who fawn at the feet of manufacturers, anything ‘new’ and on message while ignoring or being too blinkered to notice the awful social impact of so called progress.
@uk..bruiser..4046
@uk..bruiser..4046 Жыл бұрын
One can not state enough the importance of having people like these around to keep us well informed when needed. Love this channel!
@julianevans9548
@julianevans9548 Жыл бұрын
Only when we get rid of capitalism will our societies change from ones where many, many people must suffer so that a very small minority live in vast wealth. Capitalism works perfectly - because this is its intention.
@CarsofGlasgow
@CarsofGlasgow Жыл бұрын
I agree! I didn't disagree with him 1 bit.
@ollianddelphine
@ollianddelphine Жыл бұрын
Spot on, there is no way most people can move to EV's in the current market. I have a 2009 van and a 2002 car. To replace both with electric equivalent would cost me over £100k. Plus I would need 2 chargers installing at my house as well. It just has not been thought out at all. I already hate having to have an app for every damn thing on my phone in order to function at all in society.
@TheFatController.
@TheFatController. Жыл бұрын
Mate.. It HAS been thought about, a lot. That's why it's so evil. The know exactly what they're doing, they don't want us to have any freedom, no cars, no flights, no meat, tiny houses without gardens.
@handsonhomestead8461
@handsonhomestead8461 Жыл бұрын
Remove yourself from the system of Babylon now.
@ccheg3949
@ccheg3949 Жыл бұрын
Refuse to use tech and we would ALL be better off!
@AndyBestLuck
@AndyBestLuck Жыл бұрын
Ah yes… the coveted phones, watches, pads etc and other trackers that we’ve all been subtly programmed into loving so much with their shiny screens and amazing cameras. It’ll all be slimmed down to being implanted into yr body next. All will love it… and ‘they’ know that. Everybody has been bludgeoned into an aloof distant indifferent trusting sleepwalking to the abattoir, frame of mind.
@AnarchistMetalhead
@AnarchistMetalhead Жыл бұрын
it has been thought out, governments want people to be unable to move large distances, unable to escape from emergency on their own, controllable in place
@sapps851
@sapps851 Жыл бұрын
Always lived in cities, never owned a car, though at times it would've been useful. For example, in my earlier working life I had to give up home care as it took me too long to cover the distance between clients on foot. I did have a bike for a period but an accident scared me off...Outside of a city the distances would've been even greater. If car ownership becomes a luxury ticket again 100,000s of elderly and disabled will have no-one to take care of them.
@gusbloke5934
@gusbloke5934 Жыл бұрын
Agree with every word said James. I've been saying for ages that the governments EV policy and Khan's policy about London is a tax on the poor. How short our memory is. 2 years ago we realised that the people who keep this country running during an unprecedented pandemic are the lowest paid members of our society. The ones who can't work from home who need their diesel cars (the very same cars the government encouraged to buy) to get to work to keep this country running are now being nailed to the floor with massive tax hikes and charges. It makes me so cross, it really does!
@klaspeppar5619
@klaspeppar5619 Жыл бұрын
Meanwhile in Sweden, electricity is so expensive that the elderly are freezing (because they can’t afford to turn the heat up), people are close to starving to keep up. People ARE LITERALLY GOING BANKRUPT BECAUSE THEY CANNOT AFFORD THE ELECTRICITY BILLS. Some are getting electricity bills for over 30 000 SEK while many elderly get a pension of around 10 000 SEK per month. The authorities response, “well seems like many people don’t have savings to take money out of” how the h*ll are you going to save money when it is impossible to get things work financially.
@nissanoo0393
@nissanoo0393 Жыл бұрын
same everywhere it's global UK Sweden USA every EU country
@russellhorsefield9199
@russellhorsefield9199 Жыл бұрын
@@nissanoo0393 You can add Australia as our Reserve Bank had up the rates 9 times in the last 14 months and they are saying another 4 uppings of the cash rate.
@TheMentalblockrock
@TheMentalblockrock Жыл бұрын
Stop supporting NATO's war in Ukraine and for goodness sake, remain a neutral country!
@michaelfrock2473
@michaelfrock2473 Жыл бұрын
@@TheMentalblockrock that has nothing to do with his point. These first world western governments are enacting crazy policies that supposedly for the greater good that most of the world has no plans to follow.
@klaspeppar5619
@klaspeppar5619 Жыл бұрын
@@TheMentalblockrock go to h***
@ThomasDoubting5
@ThomasDoubting5 Жыл бұрын
Just like to say thank you for standing up for people who aren't financially well off James .
@JayEmmOnCars
@JayEmmOnCars Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching :)
@MYJ61
@MYJ61 Жыл бұрын
JayEmm, you are spot on about the EV “revolution” is being “legislated” and not evolving naturally is causing a great inequity for many. I personally believe you buy what makes you happy or fits your needs. EVs don’t meet all needs for all people. Maybe one day, but not in the next five years.
@jasonhunter974
@jasonhunter974 Жыл бұрын
KZfaq recommended this to me and, wanting to fill time before going to watch my daily livestream, thought “why not?” 5 minutes in, I’m liking and subscribing. Bravo, you sold me in record time.
@johnsampey344
@johnsampey344 Жыл бұрын
Thank You for allowing me to feel "Normal" once more. I couldn't have put it better myself. Well done Sir.
@michaelhill7045
@michaelhill7045 Жыл бұрын
Yes, I agree, a tax on the poor. "Wait for the oldies and stupids to die off" is also very true. How can this be acceptable in our society?
@sheldon8821
@sheldon8821 Жыл бұрын
Transportation equals Freedom, independence and mobility, you nailed it right there.
@frankcotton-ry9ex
@frankcotton-ry9ex Жыл бұрын
Everything you say is correct. The tripling of electricity prices over the past 18 months or so has totally changed the ICE vs EV equation. Electricity at a public charger costs about 79p per KWh now. That is usurious. My partner and I own both a PHEV and an EV. We have our own drives (we live separately), with wall chargers, solar panels and off-peak rates. The EV is brilliant for round trips of under 200 miles. The PHEV returns about 80mpg and is perfect for longer runs. We have it sorted, but we are so, so lucky. I would advise anyone who can’t charge at home or who regularly drives more than 100 miles per day to avoid an EV like the plague. It will cost you a fortune. If you only ever drive short journeys or can’t get a wall charger (they cost £1k+ 😳), then stick with your ICE. Something is going to have to change between now and 2030 and my bet is that the deadline will be removed. Any government that tries to force this through in the current economic climate is going to lose an election, for sure.
@venataciamoon2789
@venataciamoon2789 Жыл бұрын
Totally agree. My elderly mum who worked for the NHS retired, she rents a Renault Captur (the cheapest one) and was told it would get cheaper over the on coming years. Well we all know car prices have gone up for reasons and so are the rental prices. Now her 3 years is up to rent a new one or buy it, she can't afford it on her pension. She is now faced with not having a car for the first time in her 74 years. I walk with "walk for health" group where I live who are mainly elderly and retired, some younger and still work. None have an EV and when I ask them if they will get an EV, every single one says one of two things "Not in my life time" and or "Can't afford one of those". You are absolutely correct on this being a huge social injustice. A friend of mine was out of work and his visit to the job centre, he was told "you must look for work up to 50 miles away". While the same government who run these job centres also keeps putting or letting these companies put the fuel prices up. Is that not a scam and another social injustice on the poor and unfortunate. This world is sure becoming like the dystopian sci-fi films I watched as a kid. Mega corps running the world and masses of poor being treated like sh*t and left in poverty. Films have tuched on how this goes yet we still ignore it like it will never happen, yet it is right in front of our eyes.
@steinbauge4591
@steinbauge4591 Жыл бұрын
buy used?
@venataciamoon2789
@venataciamoon2789 Жыл бұрын
@@steinbauge4591 She used to buy used, they kept falling apart and costing her a fortune. Which is why she went the rental route.
@petesmitt
@petesmitt Жыл бұрын
'dystopian sci-fi film'.. like Soylent Green.
@steinbauge4591
@steinbauge4591 Жыл бұрын
@@venataciamoon2789 Yes must have someone who can fix, and choose the right used one. (My sister had debt troubles for a decade, I tried to get her to buy a 1981 Corolla that I knew I could fix and was very likely to keep going except the usual. But no, wanted a car that would look nice and went through 4 of the worst you can buy, the 10 yo car that the owner gets rid of because they know trouble is coming. My mom paid.)
@MrSandalwood
@MrSandalwood Жыл бұрын
To long
@manumores
@manumores Жыл бұрын
Petrol Ped also did a piece on most people not having a driveway, garage and thus being unable to have a private charging point. He went as far as to say that in his experience, in daily use this is a must have to keep things practical. Thanks JayEmm for pointing out to certain people that their world is not the world of a greater part of the population. I live in a row house, no driveway, no garage and cars cannot park on our side of the road. And even the latter wouldn't make any difference, because charging would depend entirely on available parking space in front of the house anyway.
@carholic-sz3qv
@carholic-sz3qv Жыл бұрын
A petrol/ gas car is significantly way more flexible than an electric car, also the infrastructure of charging even your houses… we’re all made possible by those same petrol cars! I don’t see anyone complaining about petrol station which btw requires significantly less space than charging station and also can supply all kinds of vehicles in very high tempo.
@robindumpleton3742
@robindumpleton3742 Жыл бұрын
@@carholic-sz3qv it will not be long before the low voltage power grid overloads, then the DNOs will start charging, stating that the customer has overloaded the system. You cant make it wait for the transformer and junction explosions
@brandonperlow9091
@brandonperlow9091 Жыл бұрын
As an apartment dweller in Los Angeles, I cant own an electric car. It took years for the landlord to install a gate for the front and parking area, I dont think he'll spend the money to install a charger in the parking area(also not sure if the city would allow it). My best bet for an efficient car is a plugin hybrid that I could juice up at the Whole Foods a few miles away.
@sandersson2813
@sandersson2813 Жыл бұрын
If a car takes at least 15 times longer to charge than a car takes to fill up with petrol and only can cover half tje distance on that charge we need as a minimum 30x the number of chargers as we do petrol pumps. Think about that for a moment. In reality that figure is more like 50x, which means we need something like 4m chargers in UK.
@legitt6093
@legitt6093 Жыл бұрын
Great video! However, there is something much more sinister than what you described. Almost all new vehicles are now basically full of spyware black boxes on wheels that you can't repair yourself. And to add to the fact that most new cars are designed to fail in some stupid after the warranty expires to force you to buy expensive parts or another new vehicle. Disgusting.
@Bill-sp8kb
@Bill-sp8kb Жыл бұрын
Planned obsolescence.
@0KiteEatingTree0
@0KiteEatingTree0 Жыл бұрын
I enjoyed this video I used to drive a classic petrol car, in London,but stopped due to I’ll health. I now drive a n EV, that is a foldable EV bike. Fun fact, London now has more bikes than cars. One could argue the real poverty is the UKs lack of public transport infrastructure investment and dedicated cycling infrastructure. That again discriminates people’s acess leading to car dependency. Because there’s no alternative. I miss driving, but for every new home likely to have between 1 to 3 cars. Are we ever going to find a solution? A few days ago I was approached by an elderly lady, who asked about my bike!
@hologram1211
@hologram1211 Жыл бұрын
Absolute truth, definitely something I've been getting more and more wound up about over recent years as ever more of these £50k+ EVs become a common sight on our streets. I only once had a new car which was a company car, but otherwise for all my driving years I've got by perfectly well in 2-4+ year used cars and cannot ever see myself buying a brand new car whether it is electric or petrol, it's just not affordable. The environmental and human cost of mass mining of lithium for all these batteries is also something that is conveniently brushed under the carpet in the name of progress. EV tax on the poor.. Definitely!
@larkhill2119
@larkhill2119 Жыл бұрын
Miners in Australia all fly in fly out no chance of getting to work in an EV.
@brianjones4026
@brianjones4026 Жыл бұрын
Without even mentioning that these Lithium mines use children as they are small and can be used to advantage in the recuperation of lithium from smaller easier to dig mine shafts ! Its called child slave labour, that these " saviours of the enviroment " seem to ignore or perhaps consider as a necessary Evil to save the planet from global warming..... which clearly anyone with a brain is a fake created narrative with no True science or data to prove that it indeed exists !
@rolanddutton
@rolanddutton Жыл бұрын
Great video. The minority of people lucky enough to afford EVs (of which I am one) should stop to think about the reality for the majority of people who can't afford one. The system really is set up to penalise people with the least.
@terrygibson6972
@terrygibson6972 Жыл бұрын
So what's new?
@rolanddutton
@rolanddutton Жыл бұрын
@@terrygibson6972 true
@rinzler9775
@rinzler9775 Жыл бұрын
And to consider the massive climatic pollution and slaves that created the batteries, and the massive environmental waste when the batteries wear out. I am concerned for the environment which is why I dont have one.
@Chris-hw4mq
@Chris-hw4mq Жыл бұрын
@@rinzler9775 climate change is a scam just to get people to stop driving and control them, climate goes threw warming and cooling remember the ice age
@rinzler9775
@rinzler9775 Жыл бұрын
@@Chris-hw4mq climate pollution is very real - masses od worn out batteries from EV's, dead solar panels, worn out windmills, millions of trees felled for wind turbines, masses of whales beached due to offshore wind farm vibrations - all conveniently overlooked by the "environmentalists".
@joelsmith9311
@joelsmith9311 6 ай бұрын
Years ago when I was working as a Voice & Data Engineer, travelling in and out of London on an almost daily basis, I had a life-changing experience. The 30 mile commute into the city took nearly 3 hours. The drive home through rush hour traffic took longer. Throughout the day, the combination of conjestion fees, emissions fees, parking fees, parking fines (for being 2 minutes over on a parking meter), followed by another fine for forgetting to pay the conjestion fee online before midnight when I got home exhausted, meant that I paid significantly more money in those fees and fines than I had earned in the day. I was broke at the time too. I felt a genuine sense of despair when I realized I would have been financially better off if I had just stayed in bed all day. That day I vowed I was leaving the UK, and that I would never again commute in to work. I live in Australia now, in the heart of Sydney - and I either work from home or walk to work. Australia isn't perfect either, far from it - but the experience of being a London commuter is an absolute disgrace, and one I will never return to.
@cinnamonlizard4304
@cinnamonlizard4304 Жыл бұрын
Brilliant, right on the money. I live in the states, not the UK, but many similarities. You are so right - I'm one of those people you speak of. While I had a great job, high income, could afford these things at one time, but at almost 60 years of age, I went through two major illnesses, a house fire (complete loss), injury, wheel chair and lost it all. I'm now in a trailer with no heat, no hot water, winter/snow conditions, figuring out how to get out of this mess - and all these new rules and measures and insanity are a severe penalty on me. Thanks for your post.
@laurencedamazer2260
@laurencedamazer2260 Жыл бұрын
Take care and look after yourself, as governments will not.
@reddog4515
@reddog4515 Жыл бұрын
Couldn't agree with you more and I live in Australia. At the moment we do not have fees for congestion or emissions but they are coming. It was your take on the plight of the poor and elderly that struck a cord. What sort of society are we becoming
@wellwhatthen10101
@wellwhatthen10101 Жыл бұрын
I just hope the Australian people stand up and fight this crazy way of life that is being force upon us not like the chicken shit gutless people here in the UK . You would need a big battery to go from Philip island to warnambool you will need to take a diesel Jenny with you to charge the battery.
@alanhat5252
@alanhat5252 Жыл бұрын
I hear you've voted yourselves a better Government so some of the problems we're having may just evaporate for you.
@alanhat5252
@alanhat5252 Жыл бұрын
@@wellwhatthen10101 The World Solar Challenge has been running since 1987 -- 3,000km (1,800 miles) down the Stuart Highway with pure solar-electric cars. If anywhere can make long-distance electric cars work it's Australia.
@chrispekel5709
@chrispekel5709 Жыл бұрын
@@alanhat5252 the party that was voted in are pro EV
@chrispekel5709
@chrispekel5709 Жыл бұрын
​@@alanhat5252 we are closing down coal stations and are going to try to rely on renewables. People living in rural areas hours from the nearest city have to drive 100's of km weekly. It's going to be an unmitigated disaster, we are the last country that should be trying to make this work
@ianchalklen1047
@ianchalklen1047 Жыл бұрын
I absolutely agree with you and I fear this is the tip of the iceberg; once Ulez gets extended the goalposts will be moved to encompass newer vehicles because currently the total number of non compliant vehicles versus the implementation cost doesn’t make sense. EV evangelists don’t seem to have empathy with those in society that can’t afford this currently. All credit to you, your shirt and lovely car.
@keithlongley362
@keithlongley362 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your honest commentary regarding the implications of forcing EV onto the public, its another example of the knot being twisted tighter and tighter against the neck of the common man.
@tveggemeyer8103
@tveggemeyer8103 Жыл бұрын
Well made points sir. I completely agree with your PoV. Another thing to consider is when everyone gets an EV crammed down their throats. When are most people going to charge them? At night. When everyone does this simultaneously, it will no longer be a low usage/discounted time. Never mind the existing grid not being able to support it.
@jasonsomerville2504
@jasonsomerville2504 Жыл бұрын
Totally agree with your views, we are being pushed towards EV with electricity going up, and nowhere to charge privately...think about people who live in Tower blocks without designated parking...how on earth are they to have own charging point
@Rogcljon
@Rogcljon Жыл бұрын
Great points James. A friend of mine keeps telling me I should have got an EV but being barely able to afford to keep my old Saab running that's a pipe dream. He has gone rather quietnsince the electricity price rises though. I suppose he will soon be telling me I need to buy some solar panels I can't afford too.
@Snarfcat
@Snarfcat Жыл бұрын
They are introducing tax for electric cars, but the main idea is to force you out of a car onto a bus or train.
@youraveragejoe1
@youraveragejoe1 Жыл бұрын
@@Snarfcat I hate how they are trying to force us to use methods of transport, which don’t work for many of us. My commute is just over 10 minutes drive, but a bus would take well over an hour including walking. And would cost the same as petrol.
@Snarfcat
@Snarfcat Жыл бұрын
@@youraveragejoe1 They want the vast majority living in pods rating bugs connected to their metaverse. BlackRock will buy up all the property in your area and force you out.
@m.ahussain4005
@m.ahussain4005 Жыл бұрын
@@Snarfcat If they want that then maybe they should improve our public transport system so that it's actually capable and can come on time.
@Snarfcat
@Snarfcat Жыл бұрын
@@m.ahussain4005 They don't care about you, they will just drive past you in the rain and laugh as they splash you waiting for your bus
@francoisvola3611
@francoisvola3611 Жыл бұрын
Great video, same situation in France. Seems also that in the UK a very large percentage of electricity comes from Coal burning, so not ecological! Anyway, a new study shows that most of the polluting nano particles that we can breathe, are produced by the tyres not by the engine, which makes the EV as obsolete as petrol cars. Cheers Jay.
@partlysane5382
@partlysane5382 Жыл бұрын
2% of electricity from Coal in the UK. And that will soon be 0%.
@Santor-
@Santor- Жыл бұрын
​​@@partlysane5382 Are they switching to gasoline? Now that there is a surplus i mean...
@Ben31337l
@Ben31337l Жыл бұрын
You know, living within 15 minutes of everything you need, is really going to hurt the tourist industry, a lot of tax havens really do rely on tourism to stay afloat. It's going to hit every industry imaginable.
@welshmark79
@welshmark79 Жыл бұрын
I live in a rural village and many of the houses don’t have driveways and the councils solution will be lamppost chargers meaning people with ICE cars will have to park down the road! That’s you and Petrol Ped who’ve made these very valid points now - bravo sir! The ev focused vloggers don’t get the real world and this crazy timeline
@Ktron99
@Ktron99 Жыл бұрын
Most Street lamp circuits aren't rated to charge 1 EV never mind a street which is why it hasn't become a thing . Council say it then a brain points out the infrastructure can't support it
@stulop
@stulop Жыл бұрын
​@@Ktron99 Yes most can't, but some do as I've seen walking down streets in Windsor and bath. Not in my street though, still waiting to hear what the solution will be for my on street charging.
@chappy2121
@chappy2121 Жыл бұрын
As far as I'm concerned owning a vehicle should have always meant you had to have somewhere to park it that didn't inconvenience anyone else. I live in an ancient market town where many of the streets are practically impassible at times due to the cars being abandoned everywhere. In all reality ICE emissions are tiny compared to say refrigerant. 10kg of R404A is 39.2 TONS of c02 or 275,000kms in a car or 916years of a 10w lightbulb. Mental really
@stulop
@stulop Жыл бұрын
@@chappy2121 It is like that in many areas where I live. Mine is slowly getting that way. 16 years ago there were 3 cars an a motorbike. Today more than 10 cars, some belonging to people that don't even live withing 100m of here. The number of cars vs parking spaces is more of the issue, let alone convenient ones. Your frefrigerent comparison is a little wide. 10kg of refrigerant is a very large amount. Sufficient for between 50 and 150 fridges, depending on how big they are, or enough for more than 10 cars. With fridges, the likelihood is all that gas will get recovered when recycled. With a car, it is very likely to have leaked out before the car dies. Practically all refregerent supplied by the manufacturer in a car ends up in the atmosphere. We need more sustainable, less harmful gases.
@cmdrreggit
@cmdrreggit Жыл бұрын
I live in a second floor flat... I regularly commute hundreds of miles to work... And I work nights. (Not that I could even afford an EV in the first place!)
@ianhayes-fry4408
@ianhayes-fry4408 Жыл бұрын
You've hit the nail squarely on the head! I drive a 2005 diesel skoda octavia estate, which I bought 3rd hand for 2k. There's no way I'm going to get rid of this brilliantly reliable and cheap to run car any time soon. And even if I went for the scrappage option, how will I make up the 25k+ difference to fund an EV replacement? And even if I could change to an EV, I live in a flat, and I'm obliged to park on the road, anywhere between 100 yards away or in the next street, so home-charging is out of the question. Add to that, with all the mushrooming ulez-type initiatives and restrictions, I'm already being controlled as to where I can go, and I fear that I'm ultimately going to be priced and/or legislated off the road. "Go by bus, or cycle" I'm told, by people who choose to ignore the fact that my job covers a large rural 'patch' and I'm easily driving 400 miles a week. The next few years are going to be very hard for a lot of us, especially those who simply can't afford to join the great green revolution (however much we might personally care about the planet and our kids' future) Normal, less well-off car owners like me find ourselves stuck between out of touch, comfortably-off, metropolitan pundits and policy-makers who can't understand why someone couldn't afford a new Tesla on one side, and the hair-shirted hardliners of the 'Khmers Vertes' on the other, who would burn our cars tomorrow and insist that we can run our entire lives (and our jobs) on a pushbike!
@daves3016
@daves3016 Жыл бұрын
Interesting seeing more of an EV pushback in the EU, yall adopted them earlier and are finding out the glaring issues with them. Cheers
@AngryReptileKeeper
@AngryReptileKeeper Жыл бұрын
I guess they were effectively the test market.
@otherdavidx
@otherdavidx Жыл бұрын
I completely agree about the charging locations. There is something slightly dodgy about an isolated charger around the back of a retail park.
@marcusbennett9381
@marcusbennett9381 Жыл бұрын
Brilliant video James, you've succinctly put into words what so many of us are thinking. There's almost certainly a different agenda going on at the moment, and it's really going to hit so many of us who might not be able to afford an EV.
@rnf1227
@rnf1227 Жыл бұрын
Good comment - but I'd say the 'majority of us'.
@marcusbennett9381
@marcusbennett9381 Жыл бұрын
@@rnf1227 I'd have to say you're probably right on that...
@pistonburner6448
@pistonburner6448 Жыл бұрын
I can afford an EV, but the TRILLIONS this will cost Europe will be felt by everyone…including our ability to invest into actually effective CO2-reducing projects. Oh, well, it will positively affect those in on the corruption though…
@vladtymo
@vladtymo Жыл бұрын
Agreed. Seems like ordinary people get punished for the lavishness and wastefulness of bureaucrats, who did not ever care about the environment, but only about their profits.
@drstrangelove4998
@drstrangelove4998 4 ай бұрын
An excellent summary mate! Not only can ‘ordinary people’ not afford an EV, they can’t afford the swinging ULEZ taxes makes even their older non compliant cars unaffordable. That from a Labour mayor too.
@alanwright3172
@alanwright3172 Жыл бұрын
Nearly chocked on my coffee when this was interrupted by an advert for gourmet meals for PRIVATE JETS!😱😂
@darren2564
@darren2564 Жыл бұрын
Can you imagine the street scene of terraced houses with cables running from car to door letterboxes to connect to plugs, over the pavement. A lot of public liability trips and falls coming up
@PugEngineer
@PugEngineer Жыл бұрын
Those charging cables would not be there in the morning ... metres and metres of unattended copper cable goes missing now - imagine what it will be like in the near future.
@chappy2121
@chappy2121 Жыл бұрын
You mean all the houses that let's face it shouldn't have a car anyway
@lipsee100
@lipsee100 Жыл бұрын
@@chappy2121 Cor balmy,, showing your true colors there!
@JackBWatkins
@JackBWatkins Жыл бұрын
Jack from TEXAS, these types of transportation schemes are coming to a neighborhood near everybody very soon. Thanks for the rant.
@domenicocarella2625
@domenicocarella2625 Жыл бұрын
I agree with you 100%! Life in London for common people is very costly...ulez applies to bikers too...You go to work in the morning you come back in the evening, the bike is always parked all day, but you still have to pay for it... It's a robbery! Tax the poor is a must apparently 🤬💩🤮
@stuartleonard1060
@stuartleonard1060 Жыл бұрын
Completely agree. There's a real green washing effect in the uk. I live in Germany and there's a completely different mind set. Many Germans travel huge distances on the autobahn at speed and I don't really see any ev's sitting in fast lane. I can travel 600 miles in one day, there and back. Not possible in an ev. The uk is taxing the people on lower incomes, and the hard working middle class.
@adamek9750
@adamek9750 Жыл бұрын
Over there the choice of autobahn cruiser is a diesel bmw?
@craigix
@craigix Жыл бұрын
99.9% of people don't drive 600miles a day. That would mean driving for about 12 hours.
@HermanWillems
@HermanWillems Жыл бұрын
Why are there so many Tesla Model Y sales in Germany?
@phileasfogg3536
@phileasfogg3536 Жыл бұрын
Germany is the largest market in the EU for EV's, counting for 42% of all EV EU sales. In 2022, EV's represented 17.7% share of all cars sold in Germany. Tesla Model Y was the 10th best selling car in Germany in 2022.
@Lookup2Wakeup
@Lookup2Wakeup Жыл бұрын
@@craigix 160 mph on the autobahn it would take just under four hours....
@fionnofearghail4967
@fionnofearghail4967 Жыл бұрын
As ever, you are the voice of reason and sensibility James. Thank you for so eloquently capturing and framing this point of view.
@amazingjason455
@amazingjason455 Жыл бұрын
Rather than following Greta and Klaus Schwab, listen to the pro-human positions from people like Bjorn Lomborg and Jordan Peterson.
@jamesregiste960
@jamesregiste960 Жыл бұрын
@@amazingjason455 Jordan Peterson is a fascist demagogue, selling snake oil to reactionary dupes and chauvinistic delusionals, fact-check his pratings and you'll see that I kid you not.
@JT-nr2ss
@JT-nr2ss Жыл бұрын
@@amazingjason455 cars kill 1.3 million people a year. Yes, very pro-human
@JT-nr2ss
@JT-nr2ss Жыл бұрын
This point of view is based on a fake and phoney facade of caring about the poor. If people really cared about FREEDOM and the poor then they would advocate against cars which are freedom crushing machines. You need permission for the government to use one, they are taxed and oil companies and states control what you pay to fuel them. Doesn't sound like freedom to me, sounds like communism
@geordiemik72
@geordiemik72 Жыл бұрын
I agree with just about everything you said and fail to understand why people have not pursued this before now. Almost every KZfaq channel I have watched tends to big up electrics but very rarely mention how the cost of charging them compares with filling a tank with petrol. I am also trapped in the never never land of having no way of affording to buy a new car of any sort so am basically stuck with my 2006 Renault which will not only get more and more expensive to run but can only have a rather limited life expectancy. Just like me in fact!
@wearetheremnants1615
@wearetheremnants1615 Жыл бұрын
Most you tubers are paid to push ev
@steveedmunds4949
@steveedmunds4949 Жыл бұрын
Couldn't agree more. You are discussing luxury beliefs and have just touched on the tip of the iceberg
@Taylor40667
@Taylor40667 Жыл бұрын
Loving these more type of “discussion”vids recently 👍
@HumzahHussain
@HumzahHussain Жыл бұрын
I think my biggest problem with how EV's are being pushed and how people just go out a buy them, is that this isn't at all good for the environment. People tend to forget the 3 R's: Reduce, Reuse and Recycle. People just go out a buy EV's because its "good" for the environment is doing it for the wrong reasons, this is why I hate the forced push of EV's. Ignoring the costs, which are still to expensive. We should all be doing our best for the environment, that involves following the 3 R's. So if you don't need to replace your car and if your current car is working without any issues, then you should not willingly or forced to replace it with an EV. The responsible thing to do would be to continue running the car you currently have. My 10 year old Ford Focus has a squeaky belt/pully and could do a new engine mount but no matter how much that will cost me, it will be far far cheaper than getting an EV on a PCP or even trying to save to buy one out right. Plus I only do 2,000 miles a year, the best guess of 20,000 miles for an EV to pay off its pollution debt from being made would then mean I would need to drive that EV for 10 years and good luck having the battery lasting as it did when it was new after 5 years, let alone 10 years. For me, no matter how you spin it - an EV is a terrible car to buy as my current car is working perfectly and facts are facts, by running my car and not replacing it that is doing more for the environment than just replacing it with an EV.
@bentullett6068
@bentullett6068 Жыл бұрын
Geoff buys cars proves that theory with a old Volvo 850 estate car
@Whatshisname346
@Whatshisname346 Жыл бұрын
Totally agree, I’m still running a 23 year old Audi a2. Sure a new car would give me all the bells and whistles but this is just grand for the odd time that I have to do a trip. Buying a new car would be a complete waste of money and detrimental to the environment when my current car has zero issues other than a sticky dash and a missing centre cap.
@ApothecaryTerry
@ApothecaryTerry Жыл бұрын
Agreed. I work with someone who is very pro EV and apparently very pro environment...yet he's got a brand new EV and pays a cleaner to drive her diesel to his house twice a week. I drive a Porsche with a 3.4L NA engine, it averages 34mpg...but I drive it once a week and that's it. That will soon be cut too, since I'm moving to fully remote work. Doesn't matter what car you own if you never actually drive it, not driving a sports car will always be more efficient than driving an EV!
@khalidacosta7133
@khalidacosta7133 Жыл бұрын
An eV battery (typical, 65kwh size) would produce 5500kg of extra CO2 to manufacture compared to a conventional combustion car. (Let's not even look at the 20 tonnes of CO2 of an average car). I don't know what engine you have but my car which gets 54mpg 8163kg of CO2 over 100k miles. You'd need to drive an eV 220k miles (based on CO2 emission per kWh of electricity mix in the UK) before it would equal me. So that's around.. what.... 50 years? 100 years? How old are you again??
@HermanWillems
@HermanWillems Жыл бұрын
The problem is that your argument is based on "assumptions" which are false. EV's can last way longer than you think. Here in Amsterdam OLD taxi Tesla's have done 600K+ kilometers. And those where the first Tesla's which are not the highest quality. The modern Tesla's for example are way way way better build. And the LFP battery can easily, i say easily do 3000+ Cycles to up to 5000 Cycles. And i can do 425km on one charge on winter tires. But lets take 400km for an easy calculation. 3000 Cycles with 400km range = ? calculate it. My previous plugin car is from 2012/13 and had it until last year. Battery worked like it was new. 10 years is peanuts for modern batteries. 20 years also easy. 30 years might be difficult we don't know yet.
@michaeldavison3208
@michaeldavison3208 Жыл бұрын
I must agree with you with regards to enforced fuel poverty, EV’s are part of the answer but not the only answer - ICE are critically important in order to keep transport moving and the infrastructure exists until EV which is patchy in coverage, expensive and not always in use. The EV recharging issue will never be addressed, domestic housing is split approx 70/30 - with just 30% with accessible driveways, the remaining majority will be forced to use public recharge points and these are never going to be competitive against domestic. One item you forgot to mention was road tax and fuel duty - EV’s pay little if any road tax, and just 5% VAT on the electricity used to recharge - so, the only option available to maintain the tax income stream, given that they cannot charge more for electricity is to bump up road tax, but this will either mean that EV’s are taxed at a higher rate or all vehicles are taxed at the same, which will need to include the fuel duty shortfall meaning that ICE vehicles are hit hardest (thus encouraging the switch to EV’s). All in all, it’s a dogs dinner and one thing is guaranteed - the poor will be hit the hardest. Fuel Poverty coupled with Transport Poverty will be high on people’s priority list in the immediate future and no politician is going to help. Your comment re the ULEZ charge was very pertinent, hospital shifts are normally 0700- 1600; 1530- 2200 & 2130- 0730, on the night shift good news, the first two hours will go to ULEZ, the next four hours in tax, NI and rent/mortgage leaving you will the balance of four hours to pay for heating, lighting, food, clothing, fuel, insurance - is it really worth working…..
@Sjapilot
@Sjapilot Жыл бұрын
Oh gosh. I live near a large US city (Denver, CO) and everything you brought up is hitting us shortly as politicians start wading into this exact problem of congestion, unaffordability, pollution, and sturdy electrification not reaching us plebeians who live in apartments for years while the wealthy enjoy that privilege now in their private garages. Bang on accurate.
@neverknowsbest4994
@neverknowsbest4994 Жыл бұрын
you can see listings for PARKING spaces in Denver for 60k dollars and up. and no way to get any kind of home charging. for people living in apartments its simply a non starter. The only way EVs make sense is as a second car. and only if you can charge at home. for a large number of people, it's simply not possible.
@studentsagainsttyranny6843
@studentsagainsttyranny6843 Жыл бұрын
Shared mate. This was a brilliant video. Another part of it is the LTNs we're seeing in Oxford. Where you need special (paid) permission from the local council to drive over 100 days a year... local residents were originally told they could take buses to work... but after the LTNs on Crowley Road were implemented, they took the 3 main bus routes of the map! Tonnes of my friends had to quit their jobs because they just couldn't afford to go to work... and taxis were effectively forced up in price because of this! They are deliberately making it impossible for us to live.
@scottcarr3264
@scottcarr3264 Жыл бұрын
I think that is the INTENT. They will be doing as in Canada, and bringing in M.A.I.D, (Medical Assistance in Death) which is what the WEF wants, a much Smaller World Population.
@nosferatut9084
@nosferatut9084 Жыл бұрын
That's the aim exactly. Brought to you ythe same criminals responsible for the past three years.
@alanhat5252
@alanhat5252 Жыл бұрын
what's LTNs?
@anthonybrewer8609
@anthonybrewer8609 Жыл бұрын
​@@alanhat5252 low traffic neighbourhoods Aka 15 minute neighbourhood / 20 minute cities
@zoeylamant8298
@zoeylamant8298 Жыл бұрын
Seems it’s getting close to that time you might actually have to get off your ass, and do something about it instead of just bitching on the internet.
@tobiaxelsson
@tobiaxelsson Жыл бұрын
I also see the reparability of electric cars as a huge economic risk later on when they show up on the used market. Usually when batteries gets old it's just a couple of cells that get bad, but since they're not made to be replaced you end up with replacing the entire pack and those are not cheap. So there has to be some legislation around reparability of electric cars for them to really be viable on the used market.
@khalidacosta7133
@khalidacosta7133 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely. Car makes go a step further and encase the cells inside expanding adhesives making it prohibitively expensive to repair. But this will partly be down to the battery chemistry which is self-oxidising. A bad repair and the vehicle catches on fire... and Ev's spontaneously catching on fire without an ability to assess risk is an issue itself.
@chrisdavidson911
@chrisdavidson911 Жыл бұрын
there are places that do good-used cell modules, but fitting them isn't as easy as changing some spark plugs, and they cost quite a bit. If you bought a regular that that was in good condition, but the engine was blown, and spent up to 1 or 2 thousand replacing it, that's about where you're at.
@davidbushell960
@davidbushell960 Жыл бұрын
Totally agree!.
@tilerman
@tilerman Жыл бұрын
@@chrisdavidson911 A friend of mine is the best electrician in the world (sarcasm) and he had an older EV that was playing up and batteries not charging correctly. He removed the batteries, separated all the cells and done what ever it was he done put them back in and, dead as a Dodo! He really thought he could repair the batteries LOL.That car was on just over 50K miles and a write off.
@threezerol944t
@threezerol944t Жыл бұрын
They are disposable vehicles, and extremely wasteful. Nothing "green" about them whatsoever.
@thomascroft6057
@thomascroft6057 Жыл бұрын
You tube just randomly brought this video to my attention. I love your work. On point with everything. I just cant understand how governments could be this blind or maybe they just dont care about people at all.
@ShiftyKen08
@ShiftyKen08 Жыл бұрын
Your "rant," as you call it, was spot on! It showcased the problems that all of these ecological programs inflict must brilliantly. But my questions are these: what do they do with the taxes imposed? How do those taxes reduce pollution? What infrastructure have they built to counteract the pollution? Or is it all just a shell game to rip off the poor?...
@claudiotx
@claudiotx Жыл бұрын
Hat's off to this gentleman. Impressive and straight to the point arguments which were unbiased and not easy to argue against. This channel is becoming an "authority" on the British auto scene. Congrats Mr. Jay!
@davidmoore349
@davidmoore349 Жыл бұрын
The "Why don't you park in your driveway and charge it overnight" thing always cracks me up a bit. As if people aren't renting rooms in apartments. Yeah sure, all the apartment buildings are going to put 2 or 3 chargers per apartment in their lots. Mhhmmm.
@russelloppenheimer3970
@russelloppenheimer3970 Жыл бұрын
@@hoppingrabbit9849 its far from trivial. Get a quote to add a socket at the end of your driveway. You'll need digging crew, someone to install conduit. Someone to pull cable. Electrician to hook it all up. It gets even nore complicated if you want to add more than one. Now everything has to be bigger to handle more current. That is just for your driveway. If its to get sockets out to street, now you have right of ways to deap with. Sidewalks. Stuff has to be dug up then repaired.
@brewstermcfly
@brewstermcfly Жыл бұрын
You are correct. As you have discussed, electricity has skyrocketed over the last few years. This is nothing compared to when we have to rely on renewables for our electricity only.
@rabbitboy008
@rabbitboy008 Жыл бұрын
James, as a subscriber of yours this is one of your best vids and rants ( how did you not swear?) I am a massive car fan but have never had the money for anything flash my current motor is an Afla 159Ti its a diesel with 160K on the clock and to this day has not produced as much carbon as building an EV. We live in the sticks and recently went to a concert in birmingham, I saw a sign saying ULEZ zone "pay on line", how I thought? Anyway a couple of weeks later a bill for £120 arrived. The journey both ways cost me just £15 in diesel! If i lived there I would have to sell my car and buy a Tesla.
@L0RDLUK
@L0RDLUK Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for making these kinds of videos, James. Whilst EVs certainly have their place in the world and should exist, forcing things upon people, especially if they're this expensive, is not a good idea. These requirements for people to be as "Eco Friendly" as possible will only drive a wedge in between the rich people and the regular people, making the average Joes and Janes utterly miserable in the process whilst also accomplishing nothing for the environment as they require more consumerism. Hopefully we can overturn this madness before it's too late.
@markscully2342
@markscully2342 Жыл бұрын
the issue for me is that there are almost no 'eco friendly' ev's. they are nearly all huge hugely expensive and an insult to the concept of environmentally aware transport.
@markharris1845
@markharris1845 Жыл бұрын
One of the most cogent and coherently structured YT clips I have ever watched. I think your ceramic brake simile is spot on actually. EV's are simply another tax on the poor, with an unsatisfactory and unregulated charging infrastructure for sure, and without any standardisation across the board. It is great to be leading edge, but one must never get ahead of the blade - and that is exactly where EV's are now. I for one will be sticking to my gas-guzzling Audi A8 diesel, which of course in the 1980's, the Government would have incentivised me to buy as a 'cleaner' alternative. Yet now diesel is more expensive than petrol...oh how short a memory do we have, but then, a week is a long time in politics!
@alanhat5252
@alanhat5252 Жыл бұрын
you've picked the wrong half of the "ceramic brake simile", it's the carbon-fibre discs that's important, you can get ceramic pads that work with standard cast iron discs & they're only (slightly) expensive because they're low production, not because of exotic materials.
@alanhat5252
@alanhat5252 Жыл бұрын
The fairly even pricing of petrol & Diesel is because of 70 years of consumer pressure, electricity prices will even out fairly quickly as the market fills out. This is not necessarily a good thing because the cheaper suppliers will put their prices up.
@alanhat5252
@alanhat5252 Жыл бұрын
I too am annoyed about the Diesel prices, especially when you look at the Euro limits -- in the later ones all the categories are near-identical apart from NOₓ where the allowance for petrol-engines is double that for Diesel. NOₓ is a greenhouse gas as well as turning into acid rain.
@scottstevens78
@scottstevens78 3 ай бұрын
I agree with you. Im an EV (2015 Leaf) owner in Edinburgh. We use it a lot, charge at home or work and unfortunately we dont have access to a night time tarrif. It isn't available here and no sign of it coming. EV infrastructure is poor even in cities.
@alexmarkov5097
@alexmarkov5097 Жыл бұрын
Perfect video and commentary Jay, about the EV dictatorship and slavary that the government's all around the world want to impose upon people! I am 1000% agree with you! Keep up the good work!
@Gorbyrev
@Gorbyrev Жыл бұрын
100% agree James. The value to society of a £1500 Fiesta or Corsa is immeasurable. Affordable transportation has transformed the world.
@gabrielenitti3243
@gabrielenitti3243 Жыл бұрын
the question to ask is, transformed for the good or the bad?
@Gorbyrev
@Gorbyrev Жыл бұрын
@@gabrielenitti3243 Definitely for the good. Why would it be for the bad?
@fortheloveofnoise9298
@fortheloveofnoise9298 Жыл бұрын
​@@Gorbyrev Don't bother with Nitti the Nitwit.
@dietrich123123
@dietrich123123 Жыл бұрын
@@gabrielenitti3243 you have a point here, however we should not put the blame on the working class people for the enviromental crisis. From my point of view, we have to wait and see if at the end of the road, any real benefit will come up for the environment from the current transition or the whole story is made for the restructuring of the system.
@Neojhun
@Neojhun Жыл бұрын
Sorry but that Corsa was £16,000 new. People here keep comparing apples and oranges.
@garycook1517
@garycook1517 Жыл бұрын
Spot on profiteering and greed has become the hallmark of energy companies and as for all these charges by local authorities to drive vehicles in cities is just a way of generatining revenue. We all still need from time to time to get into these places and they just want to tax us for it. I liken it to road fund license fees being diverted to pay for other things while our roads fall apart. Bring on the revolution.
@stuarttanner2052
@stuarttanner2052 Жыл бұрын
I'm so glad I found this video, what you have been saying is exactly what I've been saying for a while and we would agree on every point. I don't care how many Ferraris you have your still very in touch with the common man. I myself are one of those that will lose transport. I have a 2009 zafira diesel o have had it for 7 years. I have 7 children still at home 10 on total. I need the car for the school run and my little gardening business. I am struggling now just to run the car and I maintain repair everything myself. I certainly can not afford to buy a electric car and enter every competition I can find to win one. I have been driving 30 years but I think the time is coming that is coming to a end. I will then have to walk 4 children 4 miles to school and there is no public transport available. One has ASD and is very hard work and one has severe ashmatic so any damp days affect her very very badly. This is a direct attack on the poor as living in Surrey there are plenty of Tesla's and Audi etrons to see. Thank you James for highlighting this for the I'm all right jack brigade.
@brianfeely9239
@brianfeely9239 Жыл бұрын
I’m Irish and it’s similar here. Thank you so much for that rarest of things, common sense!!
@jamescollins408
@jamescollins408 Жыл бұрын
If it was about clean air then petrol/diesel cars would just be banned. It's about collecting the charge or the fine, raising revenue. You nailed it.
@ApothecaryTerry
@ApothecaryTerry Жыл бұрын
Banning those cars would stop all the workers from getting to their jobs since, as per the point of the video, they can't afford EVs. That would bring down the economy in no time so clean air wouldn't matter, so if it was about clean air then banning ICE cars in the short term wouldn't be a solution worth considering. Incentivising people to drive less is the environmental solution, no matter what car they own, since EVs aren't emission free at all, only the fuel is. Air con, brakes, tyres, lubricants and manufacturing mean they still emit huge amounts of crap. The reason we aren't incentivised to drive less is that more miles = more tax. Unfortunately that isn't even a greed thing, since less tax = less money to fund things like the NHS and schools, so the government don't have a choice either. The only people who can actually do anything about this are the companies telling their staff to go back to offices. Cut that, cut travel, cut emissions, simple. Also cuts taxes so the government have to look elsewhere, but that's solvable.
@jamescollins408
@jamescollins408 Жыл бұрын
@@ApothecaryTerry You've highlighted the conundrum facing government. Reducing miles has the knock on effect of reducing taxes collected. So the government and hence the economy loses. Consequently everyone is a loser in the long run.
@cj09beira
@cj09beira Жыл бұрын
@@ApothecaryTerry problem is the governments are horrible spenders, and really need to be put in check
@JeffLongley
@JeffLongley Жыл бұрын
Clean air in London? /points to the airports
@ApothecaryTerry
@ApothecaryTerry Жыл бұрын
@@cj09beira That's true, but it's a separate issue. It's also not entirely their fault. I'm not going to criticise all the doctors, nurses, teachers and train drivers going on strike over pay in the UK. All I'll say is this: the average pay for any group going on strike is more than my current salary and I daily drive a Porsche... Paying them more therefore clearly isn't the solution, but they are right in complaining about their working conditions. The money should be spent on training more staff to cut hours, which in turn makes the job less stressful. That means it's more appealing so it's less hard to convince people to pursue that career path. On the other hand, if a doctor says "yeah I'm just in it for the money" I don't want them treating me. Controversial I know, but that's the issue. The government has to serve the people who vote for them, but those same people will go crazy if the government tries to implement actual sensible solutions to their issues. It's a lose-lose, the government are at fault, but ultimately the people are responsible.
@jcooper_
@jcooper_ Жыл бұрын
Thanks for speaking up on this as someone with a decent voice in the community. All of your main points are bang on the money, and these issues aren’t even limited to the poorest. I consider myself comfortable, with a good postgrad education and working in the industry I aspired for as a kid, and yet there’s just no hope in hell of me owning an EV anytime soon as I’m in my mid-20s and earning relatively modest money at the early stages of my career. Despite being where I want, I still have to flat share with two friends, live in a place with no private driveway, and budget to a reasonable degree each month. EVs are absolutely a luxury, and yet they’re being pushed as the new normal (and you’re a dirty hater of the world if you don’t have one according to some vocal champions). If I’m in a position to have an EV before I’m 30 I’d be amazed, and this is me as someone in a good career. For others in jobs like retail, I dread to think.
@ed-ou812
@ed-ou812 Жыл бұрын
I will buy a kit to electrify my car before I will buy a new EV. Just waiting on the new battery technology to come to fruition.
@benabbott302
@benabbott302 Жыл бұрын
"We give the contract for orphanages to Gary Glitter" that's made my day!
@simonbennett191
@simonbennett191 Жыл бұрын
Completely agree and something I have been pondering for a while. If you also add in the massively reduced overall lifespan of an EV compared to ICE and huge restrictions on repairing it yourself or even through an independent garage in some cases the future looks even bleaker for any average wage earner.
@alanhat5252
@alanhat5252 Жыл бұрын
No, the lifespan of an EV is not reduced. The batteries is probably what you're talking about, they don't suddenly switch off or implode after 3 years like a phone battery, they slowly lose capacity. They're reckoned to be at 80% capacity after 25 years normal driving & then can be sold as a Tesla Powerwall or similar, by which time a massively improved battery technology will be being made. Several alternatives are close to or in small-scale manufacture right now, including ones that don't use #ConflictMinerals or Rare Earths & the big Chinese manufacturers are leading the way, they don't want to miss out on the Next Big Thing. The body, suspension, steering & all of that is the same as any other car, it won't wear out quicker. Don't forget, we had electric cars before we had petrol ones & the motors, control gear & all that side of it have been in constant development (in other uses) for much longer than we've had petrol engines.
@thorgrimb2416
@thorgrimb2416 Жыл бұрын
@@alanhat5252 ARe you living in the real world? EV weigh more they burn through tyres quicker they take more toll on suspension etc etc go actually learn stuff and hey we are not even started on the human cost to poor kids in Africa mining the raw materials so what are you sayinbg you dont caRE ABOUT THOSE KIDS ? i HOPE NOT i HOPE YOU DO CARE ABOUT THEIR MISREABLE EXISTANCE just to make EV drivers feel better in front of their neigbours.
@fredflintstone1428
@fredflintstone1428 Жыл бұрын
What do you mean 'huge restrictions on repairing it yourself?' I wouldn't take any notice of someone telling me what I can and can't do with my own property........therein lies trouble.
@fredflintstone1428
@fredflintstone1428 Жыл бұрын
@Matthew Gunderson I guess it depends on the price point you're entering at. If I had just paid £30,000 for an EV, I may be a bit reluctant to take it apart and start reverse engineering it. As it is, I paid £4000, so I'm more than likely to get the screwdrivers out myself.
@partlysane5382
@partlysane5382 Жыл бұрын
What makes you think there is a massively reduced lifespan? Drivetrain warranties, including batteries, are often 8 years or 100k miles and both are known to last well over 250k miles. We already know that a Model S can cover more than a million miles! There are 3rd party repairers. just not many yet. As for servicing, I understand the reluctance to allow people to do some things themselves. 400 to 800 volts DC at high current is lethal. You need training to work on high voltage equipment in any industry. As the demand grows, so will the number of trained repairers.
@KenEdwardsz
@KenEdwardsz Жыл бұрын
100% correct as usual, James. I have had this on my mind for time now, even before energy prices went through the roof. I only buy 4 yr old cars as I want something with a bit of luxury and a decent amount of power, with a budget of less than £20k. It is car that does about 8000 miles pa and is only used for longer journeys and holidays abroad where I usually drive over 900 miles in one day covering 2.500 over a 2 week period, there is no EV that is capable of that. I have another cheap old banger (sub £1000 car that is 15yrs old) that I use for commuting and shorter local journeys. If I was a wealthy man I would replace this banger with a small EV as I have a driveway and my home is powered by solar panels and batteries so charging would be almost free, but I am not! I am just a normal guy trying make ends meet and have an annual 2 week holiday where I can really enjoy my driving my car to the south of Spain. The situation we find ourselves in is a case of a government not understanding real working people that have just enough to live a reasonable life but have nothing in reserve because it is squeezed out of them with high inflation and soaring cost of living due to the privatisation of our utilities for profit. The rich get richer and we are all doomed! It begs the question what will be left for the rich when we the normal people can't buy anything let alone EVs.
@robindumpleton3742
@robindumpleton3742 Жыл бұрын
I live in France and can get Citröen AMI for €19 a month sounds great, but wait for it if you have a town car, go for a 40plus year old car I would love a 68 Mustang, which is exempt, but a 2CV will have to do. A 635 CSi is good 😁
@dzcav3
@dzcav3 Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, it's worse than the governments not understanding real working people; it's governments, and other elites, not CARING about working people. I have nothing against people getting rich, but the non-rich shouldn't be forced to subsidize them and their e-toys.
@davidthegolfer
@davidthegolfer Жыл бұрын
Hi Ken, thank you too for that touch of reality. Those that don’t realise would benefit to know that the current ICEs cost many millions of tonnes of Co2 to manufacture, that has already been “spent”. We need to be very careful that we don’t force people to take these off the road prematurely. The report carried out by Volvo on their own manufacturing of two alike cars, one petrol and one EV. The total Co2 cost of manufacturing and then running the cars meant that the EV would have to drive over 140,000 km before it showed a Co2 advantage. The report used to be on their website. So, it’s not so plain and simple. The biggest advantage of EVs seems to be moving Co2 and particulates out of heavy populated areas, which is obviously a very good thing. Governments of the world. Have a good (re)think.
@markscully2342
@markscully2342 Жыл бұрын
they don't understand because they pay themselves a quite frankly ludicrous salary and get huge kickbacks from the people who's lavish overpriced environment destroying EV's they mindlessly imagine we will all buy!
@dodge3048
@dodge3048 Жыл бұрын
Honestly can't tell if this comment is sarcastic or ironic
@TomRelubbus
@TomRelubbus Жыл бұрын
I agree totally. I live in Cornwall, and I'd have to pay a fortune in fees to visit London - so why don't the London types, with their 2nd homes down here, have to pay a bean to come to Cornwall? Secondly, EV battery technology is still in its infancy - so many of the EVs being sold now, are at risk of being obsolete before people have finished even paying for them!
@Farmhandboy
@Farmhandboy Жыл бұрын
Lovely rant James! You are definitely not alone in these feelings and conclusions, there are a lot of us who feel just as aggrieved with our out of touch political numpties making these decisions to make our lives harder and taking away our freedoms and quality of life and it's absolutely infuriating! It's as if the politicians and local government are taking great delight in impoverishing us and ultimately the country.
@markonmotoring
@markonmotoring Жыл бұрын
Oh James where do we start with this one. You are absolutely right this is totally being forced upon us and will definitely hurt the working class the most. We had beater Dona risk assessment for our extension cords hung out of the windows of flats and terraced houses. The cars are far too expensive to buy and now even second hand cars are all leased on terms where most people dare not actually drive the car in fear of putting on too many miles. The rolling out of all these ULEZ zones may as well be a second scrappage scheme. As KZfaq is a hobby rather than an income for me I have to earn my living driving a HGV and I've seen the signage for the ULEZ zones piping up all over the place and the cist for an articulated lorry delivering to a supermarket within these area is going to be so expensive and the retailer's and haulage companies won't be able to absorb the cost so the end user will have to pay. There are some serious pros to EV's I will admit but forcing this upon us is frankly pissing people off. I don't believe that charging will improve all that quickly either, once we all make the switch there will be no reason for advancement of the technology once the competing IC cars are no longer available. Long journeys will take us longer, just like how those with the financial means used to be able to fly Concorde to New York but now have to make do with subsonic transportation. The world is going backwards. I suppose us commoners will all have to use public transport in the impending dystopian future, provided they are not all still on strike that is. Sorry about the rant but I'm sure I'm not the only one who feels this way about it.
@Snarfcat
@Snarfcat Жыл бұрын
They are introducing tax for electric cars, but the main idea is to force you out of a car onto a bus or train.
@kurtbarker3303
@kurtbarker3303 Жыл бұрын
Spot on!
@robertfleckney8335
@robertfleckney8335 Жыл бұрын
Totally agree. Really interesting points made as well. Just the cost of actually buying EVs is crazy, especially when the cost of buying a normal car is high enough. I’m in the £1-2k category, in terms of car buying and this puts these EVs into lottery win territory.
@colinwilson210
@colinwilson210 Жыл бұрын
No one seems to understand yet that the electricity network won't be able to cope with the added load requirements of all the new EVs - at both a local and at national level. Most houses might have a 60A or 80A fuse in their incoming supply, but the distribution network operates on the basis that on average they'll take ~2kW each. If everyone with an EV suddenly needs an additional 7kW on top of the notional 2kW, it will overload the system. If the system is close to the limit, the end user customer will have to pay to upgrade the electricity network to get that additional capacity - which may mean buying a suitable site to place a substation, building the substation, paying for all the equipment to fit it the substation, all the overhead line updating, and all the excavation they need to do for the substation. That substation might be several roads away and not even visible from your house, but since you're the unlucky sucker who'd put the network over capacity, it's down to you to pay *all* the upgrade costs to provide the supply you want. The alternative is you don't fit a charger at home and charge it elsewhere at a massive uplift in cost, the time you're without a vehicle as it charges, and all the hours you'll waste waiting for it to charge. God help you if there's a queue to charge, because there isn't enough of them to go around as it is. Yay for EVs !
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