JayzTwoCents CPU Broken Pin Repair Fail. What went wrong ?

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JayzTwoCents CPU Repair Video • Fixing broken CPU pins...
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@WatchMysh Жыл бұрын

You know someone is competent when he tries to mess up on purpose and fails lol

@Timo-Epis Жыл бұрын

😂

@wingmannj Жыл бұрын

haha so true

@davidshatusky8755 Жыл бұрын

Alex is a very experienced professional. I have been soldering electronics for years and would not even attempt some of what he does. Unbelievable, how easy he makes it look.

@stuart207 6 ай бұрын

I work in a massed produced factory. I could teach you our secrets but you would not believe me 😂 This guys a salesman not a professional.

@Anthony-uz5tj Жыл бұрын

this guy is so good that even when hes trying to mess up he cant

@ligametis Жыл бұрын

Seen better ones that go through many layers of burnt pcb.

@enzo1337ro Жыл бұрын

that's what good tools do.

@mrhydeuc1488 Жыл бұрын

Alex - you rule! I'm 68 - been soldering since 10 or so and never seen a better tutor! Thanks and then your humor is priceless!

@leeheggie7043 Жыл бұрын

Alex is right. I used to use an all in one station and struggled but invested in a JBC soldering iron and an Atten hot air station and it was a big game changer. It allowed me to work quicker and be more precise. The jobs are now much easier to do compared to when i had the all in one system.

@electronJarvs Жыл бұрын

Same here love my jbc soldering station though my hotair station is a quick 861de I gather the attens are similar in quality.

@leeheggie7043 Жыл бұрын

@@electronJarvs yes their on equal grounds i believe.

@slickrx6908 Жыл бұрын

The good Atten ST-862D right? Cause there are junk hot air models of Atten.

@slickrx6908 Жыл бұрын

@@electronJarvs The similar Atten one does not have a replaceable coil nozzle. While the Quick Does.

@slickrx6908 Жыл бұрын

Is JBC better than Hakko?

@AuaerAuraer Жыл бұрын

I visit the 9th dimension often and I can say a lot of tiny capacitors do come here.

@KingZeusCLE Жыл бұрын

As someone learning to solder on PCBs (older GPUs currently), your channel has been infinitely more valuable than all of the other big tech youtubers combined. Subbing.. you've earned it. Thank you.

@LONETK 4 ай бұрын

I can honestly say I`ve never soldered anything in my life but love to watch these videos. Thanks Alex

@EdwardKilner Жыл бұрын

I saw Jay’s video and thought he tried hard. This video was impressive. I didn’t know much about the tools, flux, and solder that is needed today. Thank you.

@robertpage2023 Жыл бұрын

Great demo show today! I have to tell you that I made my own pin straightener by taking a very small hollow tube made of aluminum and then placing it over the bent pin and angling it back to the up right position which bends the pin back to straight. It is quick and easy to do. The hole or inside diameter of the tube fits perfectly over the pins with little play making it easy to bend them straight. I do heat the pins first but not to the point of melting the solder at the base so as get a more pliable result putting less stress on the metal.

@jeffhansman2829 9 ай бұрын

Or, *gently* use a mechanical pencil with the lead removed. Works like a charm.

@BenieTheDragon 2 ай бұрын

It takes someone with extremely steady hands (and confidence) to be able to do this job perfectly, every time.

@myaccount8864 Жыл бұрын

I did replaced a few days ago 2 broken pins from a Amd ryzen cpu,with hot air station and thanks to Alex by watching his videos , i had a successful process! Thank you Alex for all your shares! You and big boss are awesome!

@coburn_karma Жыл бұрын

It's a shame Jay and Linus don't take the time to view other great KZfaq content creators such as NorthbridgeFix. Computers and Electronics have a vast array of different avenues and applications than just hardware reviews. This channel is a Godsend to those who prefer to tinker and fix new or old items. What school would you attend or have the time in your busy career to learn just one aspect of electronic repair? Thank you for all the free lessons.

@fakeplayer9088 Жыл бұрын

@@eXPeriment-c024 Nailed it

@keylock32 Жыл бұрын

If you were tech enthusiast, I don't think they are good for you, most tech channel right now sadly has just become advertising company. Once you see it you just can't unsee it.

@3agl33y369 Жыл бұрын

Linus manages 80 employees and is the face of his conpany and is the host the majority of the time. Jay manages a few employees but is also the face of his company. They're doing pretty good in the real world when they've been around for roughly 10 years.

@coburn_karma Жыл бұрын

@@3agl33y369 Exactly my point, they've been around for 10 years like you say, they should be more aware of other Great KZfaqrs.

@redpill2634 Жыл бұрын

Your mentioned creators are working in different aspect of entertainment, they promote consumerism.

@packetcreeper Жыл бұрын

It's no fun when CPU pins go to the 9th dimension. 😂

@milosstojanovic4623 Жыл бұрын

Some people are really the experts in destroying those pins properly :)

@danytoob Жыл бұрын

A pro doin' pro stuff. Beautiful. Sharing his knowledge and wisdom, making the world a better place. Thank you.

@a59x Жыл бұрын

This is like Messi coaching someone who played football for only 2 weeks.

@xman2k2 Жыл бұрын

NorthridgeFix you demonstrated why you are one of the best and most respected repair channels ever. You make it look so easy. Well done Sir.

@jorgep8454 Жыл бұрын

Very good video Alex. Every single person that watches this video will definitely learn something. It felt like I was taking a soldering course.

@jennymelo2098 Жыл бұрын

Its crazy how easy this guy makes the tiniest repairs look so easy.

@HwH_DeagleDan Жыл бұрын

I like that he isn't throwing hate towards jayztwocents. The fact Jay tried but like he said Jay isn't an expert. These experts have the tech and the patience to do these tasks

@colinreece3452 Жыл бұрын

I've watched many of your videos Alex and I must admit you are master especially with the soldering iron, I have watched others do soldering and I'm no expert but some of them to my mind don't do a good job and a lot of them look messy when finished. Thank you again your explanation on this was spot on, you shown us the right and wrong way, you are a top man Alex.

@MsHojat Жыл бұрын

Wow such amazing quality camera and lighting and tools, but most especially: *_knowledge/advice!_* The visuals are like ASMR for the eyes.

@Dustii91 6 ай бұрын

I doubt I'll ever realistically need to do anything remotely like this (although I'd love to!) I've managed to brick my motherboard, so going to attempt to rewrite to the chip, searching for methods eventually led me to this channel, the rabbit hole began😂 I find these videos so informative and entertaining. Thank you for sharing the knowledge and education.

@janoskiraly805 Жыл бұрын

I've learned so much from this video. I struggled a lot with my soldering iron because solder won't stick to it or just partially, and I had no idea why. Guess I have to invest into a better quality iron and tip. Thanks a lot for this video, very insightful.

@volvo09 Жыл бұрын

If your iron is that bad, you will be thrilled when you get a better iron. When solder doesn't want to stick, heat won't transfer to the workpiece well, so it makes heating up what you want to solder real hard... Sometimes impossible.

@xbmc79 Жыл бұрын

I have a very cheap china soldering station with a very cheap soldering tip. The tip was ok and the solder stuck to it very well until the wires fell off the temp sensor. The tip started to glow and the solder never stuck to it again. The coating of the soldering tips breaks down due to too much heat and the wrong type of solder. I really tried a lot, but nothing led to success. Since i didn't have no other soldering tip, i sanded the soldering tip down to the copper. That was 3 years ago and the tip still works very well to this day.

@therefix342 Жыл бұрын

Your tip could be oxidised, even more expensive tips will do this if you don't look after them. Try cleaning it with wire wool and flux.

@nerdstrangler4804 Жыл бұрын

@@sulcusulnaris Nah some of the chinesium tips are just trash. If his tip ever worked properly, I am pretty sure he would have realized there was something wrong with it. I bought a cheap chinese soldering station back in the day, the tips that came with it worked just fine. But I bought some replacement tips off aliexpress and they were like solder repellents. He probably needs better tips.

@oscarmarfori613 Жыл бұрын

I’ve never seen a multi purpose billiard table before but your description is quite accurate 😂 you are right tools made for that kind of a job (micro soldering) should totally accurate otherwise you’ll be left out with a crapshoot job

@cod176 4 ай бұрын

I’ve gained so much confidence from watching your videos, thank you for the free training!

@bmomjian Ай бұрын

Good explanation of how low-melt solder helps remove components.

@don_lock Жыл бұрын

NorthridgeFix is the master micro soldering guy! Thank you again for making editing and posting your videos! I always buy my tools and equipment from NorthridgeFix!

@David-oz7se Жыл бұрын

I have to agree your microscope is the best I've seen on KZfaq repair channels. High definition and great detail and colour. Dept of field is very good also

@SolderBrothers Жыл бұрын

Always impressed with your confident technique!

@Haywood-Jablomie Жыл бұрын

Eating Shawarma weekly can give you super powers... extra garlic is mandatory

@suluturnip 8 ай бұрын

Thank you so much for the lesson on how to desolder and solder CPU pins. You are an excellent teacher.

@commanderphantom 6 ай бұрын

Absolutely love your material! You've been quite an inspiration to me and my technicians, leading us to tinker and practice with more things to hone our skills. Keep the content coming!

@ThisIS_Insane 7 ай бұрын

Actually, He has been doing this for years, as his procedures and practiced hand movements reveal. I am unsure of how much theory he has, but he does understand the underlying rules of how to handle and protect these tiny components, as he says can go "to the 9th Dimension". Love your channel and the methodologies you use. Congrats on building a business for the family to share in! Thank you, Alex! 😁🙂👍👍👍

@MrHatone Жыл бұрын

Alex, you have to record more videos. It's very pleasant, to watch how you work! :)

@PleXXtoR Жыл бұрын

I love your videos and this is one of the best! So many tips and information. Learning from other failures is helping so much. Thank you!

@dainluke Жыл бұрын

I can’t believe it’s already been over 18 months that I’ve been watching your channel. How time flies.

@facyali Жыл бұрын

I thank you for the tips and tweaks man, sharing your skills costs a fortune, lesson learnt and will be applied. Thanks once again

@dodgydruid Жыл бұрын

Up until last week, I thought I had the best tweezers, a set of Bergeon's... then on a whim the week before after being given the nod I bought for £3.50 a pair of dental surgery tweezers, made by an English company called Medentra... the bigger locking ones have very grippy tips which for holding screws about the size of them cpu pins is a game changer, the other set in the kit are ultra ultra fine, extremely fine tips never seen 'em that thin before and both surgical stainless steel and has made such a difference to doing my watches. Sometimes you can spend absolute fortunes on the heartell of others and find instead a diamond in the rough like these Medentra's, many of my watch friends have now bought some and agreed they are absolutely awesome tweezers :)

@andygardiner6526 Жыл бұрын

which model - I can't see anything really fine in either their general surgery or dental catalogue

@niklasniklasniklas1 8 ай бұрын

I love your videos! You really out here teaching people. I want to start repairing stuff myself. Maybe not expensive stuff or super small things at first, just for fun. I bought a soldering iron a month ago and i started trying repairing old gpu fan cables and tried to solder back cables on to the fan hub, but i did not have flux and i believe that made it more difficult so definitely gonna buy that and see the difference.

@maestrohun 6 ай бұрын

This videos was perfect for hobbies, how to solder better. Thank you so much!

@akoslengyel8913 Жыл бұрын

I did mention your videos (as you are very very professional) and shared your website. When i saw Jay's video,you was the first who cameup in my mind.

@TheRabidTech Жыл бұрын

jayzTwoCents first board repair attempt his soldering was so bad he attached a component to the board with glue and it worked and the whole internet cringed. So he has come leaps and bounds with acquiring decent tools etc. he learned what flux is etc. he has learned enough to have an appreciating for whats involved.

@HanCurunyr Жыл бұрын

The more I watch your videos, and other technicians as well, more I get impressed with your skills, and more I think that I dont have the motion control required for this and I'll gladly play for a professional to do this for me if I need it one day. Altough I have a broken Xbox Series controller and I'm kinda tempted to open it and see if I can fix it, a stiff left analog and sticky A and B buttons.

@douglasthake4873 Жыл бұрын

absolutely top class content. a masterclass in micro soldering.

@mbwatson1000 Жыл бұрын

I think it can be helpful when non-experts attempt expert work. Watching them fail can remind viewers that the work they were attempting is very difficult. You are an excellent expert in your field, carrying excellent equipment (as this video explains). The trouble with videos like those on your channel is that people see you making very difficult jobs look simple, which makes them think they could do it too. It is easy to forget how much expertise you have! I watch your videos as entertainment. I used to repair computers before I fell ill. I have a sound background in electronics. I have enough sense to recognise that the work you do requires considerable expertise. I know if I was to attempt it, I would fail miserably. I am not sure I'd have the patience or attention to detail to do your job. If I wanted to, I could try, but I recognise I'd need a lot of practice. If I was still in buisiness, I'd be more inclined to subcontract such work to someone like yourself rather than attempt it myself. My expertise lies in software. I shall stay within my field of expertise, and admire your work in your field of expertise.

@AlexKidd4Fun Жыл бұрын

I agree with what you said completely. The real problem is providing a solid balance between showing viewers that it's not a dream but very possible for them to purchase and learn to do the same work, but at the same time realize they will not be immediately successful. You have to put in the time to practice and fail more often at the start but with persistence they could eventually rival even Alex on this channel!

@philipmervin6967 Жыл бұрын

Yes, it is not only the tools and equipments, the experience and your brain should work together Alex is doing great Bcoz i too worked in an SMD plant With state of the art technology

@lolopete 6 ай бұрын

What a joy to watch you make it look so easy, thanks!

@cppctek Жыл бұрын

I’m so Glad you did this !!!

@gregtaddeo3846 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the education! Well spoken, and caring!

@paulstir 8 ай бұрын

One of your most informative videos I have seen full of useful tips and tricks thanks for this one Alex 👍

@d0sk3y 7 ай бұрын

The billiards table comment got me LOL. Awesome!

@mikatorkkeli4932 Жыл бұрын

I saw Jayz's video in my feed but i knew that it will be bad and didnt watch it. Cant do it either, iam just getting my tools together and iam just at the 286 pc motherboard kind of micro soldering. I have a good solderin station but its not good for varta battery damage so i bought a solder sucking station, not the best but works, tried manual pump and solder wick but that didnt work for battery damage. Needed flux and more solder and good suction to get parts off the board. Did do hirosima with my xbox360 because of no good vision of the board but later i will fix it. Tools are so important, heat and vision is the needed parts. Thanks i have learned a lot from these videos!

@imqqmi Жыл бұрын

Don't be fooled, the skill, practice, steady hands, material knowledge, electronic component knowledge, chemistry, thermal properties of components, solder, pcb, flux, the knowledge how to use what and when is very important. I haven't mentioned tools yet and that's on purpose, without the above tools are nearly useless. While the other channels mentioned are competent system builders but are beginners at repair at microscopic and electronics level. NF has demonstrated that distinction very well.

@andrasszabo7386 Жыл бұрын

I like and wtch your videos all the time, Alex. I learned a lot from them and I am learning from them every time. I check every day if you posted any new videos or not. Even though without these videos, you would have more time to fix stuff brought into the shop. Your time wasted on these videos is much appreciated :)

@zenos9302 Жыл бұрын

True a good soldering station makes work so much better. Had a cheap soldering iron and fixed my work just by upping my soldering iron to a good solder station with great tips.

@LazyQ8i Жыл бұрын

يعطيك العافية اليكس، انا اقدر الفيديوات اللي تشرح اخطاء شائعة من المبتدئين. دائما تعطي نصائح مفيدة، حتى لو ما عندي اي فكرة عن الالكترونيات. نتعلم منك ال reversed engineering. Ur tips are always pricesless. الله يوفقك و يرزقك من رزقه الكريم

@EternalHeretic Жыл бұрын

Learning so much yet I swear I always run into more questions! I do plan to order some flux and tweezers from yall because I did order cheap amazon ones and well... the flux is hard to apply and extremely sticky and the tweezers I keep having to reshape.. I was doing a test board and one of the semiconductors on 1 side 3 pins touch and the rest are floating and I for the life of me don't know the best way to level all the pins. I shelved it for now as I was getting frustrated trying to work them with these crappy tweezers.

@hentosama Жыл бұрын

I hope jay sees this so he keeps trying and succeeds

@DavidGarcia-ob9dk Жыл бұрын

Very practical, as always. Thanks!!

@josemanuelreirizrodriguez205 Жыл бұрын

Perfect explanation of how a pin is placed on a cpu. Good job and better explanation. Regards.

@EmadoBigboss Жыл бұрын

You Are The MASTER in your job Hussain , I really enjoy your videos , Cheers from Damascus -Syria

@rlsbal17 Жыл бұрын

thats why i am subscribed to this guy he fix electronics beautifully.he makes it look like its easy ♥️

@geneshort8160 Жыл бұрын

Your the best and I have purchased from your site and products are top notch with zero issues. Love the education.

@Saltloony Жыл бұрын

Great demonstration!

@loudiniowa6453 Жыл бұрын

absolute master! thank you very much for the knowledge shared.

@Adamsgotgame Жыл бұрын

Great watch. Glad this was recommended

@IowaMan Жыл бұрын

I learn so much every time i watch these!

@pilotboy217 8 ай бұрын

Alex you gotta be stacking that bread by now. You deserve 3 million followers or more.

@toddblankenship7164 Жыл бұрын

Jay literally said he's never done it and he was practicing. He didn't fail he did exactly as expected.

@nicholasgreen2012 Жыл бұрын

Thank you for the tutorial. You didn't have to make this but you did to inform us how to do it right. If I was American I would love to work for you

@3agl33y369 Жыл бұрын

First electronic repair channel I seen is when LouisRossman had his colorful take on Linus' "gpu repair" by putting it in the oven. Nice to see more channels like this.

@tejay9416 6 ай бұрын

Northridgefix micro soldering expert and shameless plug 😂😂💯💯 love the videos!!

@technolucas3720 Жыл бұрын

You are good at your job and a pleasure to observe and learn from.

@TechnessCorner Жыл бұрын

Enjoy your work and diligence too it, SAD NOTE, wish I had got into this part of hardware repair when younger as the hands I'm guessing need some training for such finer detail. Great Video as always! Peace

@Sgt.Hairclub 4 ай бұрын

"I don't want to talk bad about the tools that he has" Uh, yes you do! I love this guys videos.

@JLawlietK Жыл бұрын

Hi, your repair videos are inspiring. I am curious though, what is the success rate for repairing? Are there cases where you found where the product arrived irreparable?

@CooLDEaFy44 Жыл бұрын

Alex. You are great teaching good lesson about repair stuff. You are awesome,..

@postedinthecut1565 Жыл бұрын

that analogy about the pool table was spot on

@blutey Жыл бұрын

Great tutorial. Thanks for posting.

@ThatKoukiZ31 Жыл бұрын

Quality tools make ALL the difference, especially when working with such small components.

@xlwirelesselectronicrepair Жыл бұрын

Ya when I started soldering. I did start with a all in 1 soldering station. Sucks until.i bought expensive good tools. Now I'm the man on any solder job

@tippyc2 Жыл бұрын

A lot of elitism in these comments, but i think most of them are missing the point of Jay's video. Jay's perspective is that of a hobbyist, probably closer to what any of us would experience trying the repair with reasonably attainable equipment. You can't really compare his attempt to that of a professional with access to thousands of dollars of equipment doing the repair.

@williamstone5871 Жыл бұрын

Very nicely done. Enjoyed and learned.

@dommerdom Жыл бұрын

Great video, and I love your affect.

@trejohnson1141 Жыл бұрын

Great video as always thx for all the tips

@BLXCKMOZXRT Жыл бұрын

What’s funny about this particular video is when Jay tried to fix the cpu pin, I instantly thought about the video Alex made on fixing the pins and I really believe Jay tried to do it because he saw Alex do it. Didn’t expect Alex to drop this video as a reminder to Jay to stay in his lane. 😂

@T0EFOO Жыл бұрын

i used to watch JayzTwoCents long long time ago when his content was actually relevant. Then he began to release shit videos , just because, without an actual reason/need/content to display. I unsubbed. And i was right it seems because, from there on, he had been just releasing crap content and talking too much about things he has ZERO idea about. Many of his videos have gotten debunked to be garbage information many times over. He quit his actual job i remember to start youtube fulltime, which he shouldnt have done. Now he is desperate.

@zeroconduction Жыл бұрын

"Stay in his lane."? Judging by the emote I assume that you're joking but it's still a pretty shitty thing to say. We should definitely be discouraging people from trying new things.

@BLXCKMOZXRT Жыл бұрын

@@zeroconduction Ugh I didn’t make the video, Alex did…. & Just because I stated what he chose not to, due to sensitive people on the internet like you, doesn’t make me the one who discourages humanity for trying new things.

@BLXCKMOZXRT Жыл бұрын

@black guy because the video is antipathetic itself…. “JayzTwoCents CPU Broken Pin Repair FAIL” is the title. Are you guys watching the same video or even hearing the things that were being said? Lmfao….

@winebartender6653 Жыл бұрын

@@BLXCKMOZXRT Not about "sensitive" people, but the idea that everyone starts somewhere. Your comment is just gatekeeping, which is such an ignorant and shortsighted view. NorthbridgeFix started somewhere, as did everyone who became competent in their field. Jay in no way was portraying himself as being knowledgeable or skilled in doing this and literally uploaded his failure. Not many people would be willing to do that. You gotta fail and make mistakes to become better in anything you do, just how being human works.

@geoves Жыл бұрын

Your videos are very entertaining, I don't do repairs, but I love tech and gadgets, and I find this very interesting.

@mohamedhussein120 Жыл бұрын

Thank you Alex 👍🏾

@stellargreg4481 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the great video. I love to watch and learn from both you and Jay. I also REALLY appreciate how respectful you were when pointing out what went wrong or he did incorrectly. That sir is a sign of a true, confident, professional and did not go unnoticed. Keep making these great videos and I'll keep watching and ordering.

@hang10wannabe Жыл бұрын

Cool and educational video, thanks as always sir.

@nickdelahunty1875 Жыл бұрын

Helping each other is sensational You’re a true gentleman ✊

@chandramohannandanpawar2617 Жыл бұрын

Lovely knowledgeable video explaining the practical difficulties

@theegg-viator4707 Жыл бұрын

Love ya man! Great video and great knowledge sharing! ! 💯

@abolfazlsaravani2214 Жыл бұрын

beautifully done!

@vstormvbringer76 Жыл бұрын

Super expert you made it look easy!

@coburn_karma Жыл бұрын

Gordon Ma Ung used the tip of a mechanical pencil back in his Maximum PC hey day, to straighten out a bent CPU pin.

@WASKMUSIC Жыл бұрын

I really love the way you talk!

@BeardedFire Жыл бұрын

to be fair too, jay is more into pc building and such and not repairing components, i think jay did a good job as first try. for someone like Northridgefix that does this a ton more on daily basis its alot easier compared to someone that just tried it first time

@damolin77 Жыл бұрын

I hope you and Jay can do a collaboration and you can show him how you would solider pins and tech him would make a crazy video.

@Talmiior Жыл бұрын

@4:00 - I unfortunately learned this the hard way. I ended up getting a crappy soldering station and a just ok hot air station. You need to put it to "485c" (in quotes because it's definitely not 485) to just barely manage to heat stuff up enough to melt non-lead solder. It's very frustrating. I had to buy another soldering iron because of this hard learned lesson, and likely will need to buy a separate hot air station eventually as well...

@therealjammit Жыл бұрын

I've replaced a few CPU pins with a pencil iron. The tip was all copper (one of those cheap crap irons) that I made into a real skinny cone tip with a file. The tip was completely ruined but it was enough to solder the pins, plus the cheap iron was a throw away unit anyway.