The short displayport cable ist for the displayport IN on the top. That is the way AMD achieves the thunderbolt connectivity for screens, by throughputting the displayport-out of the gpu in the motherboard and out the usb c

Jay missed something VERY important on the both motherboards. On the back, the DP connectors are INPUTS not outputs. You must use the small DP cable from the mobo box to run from GPU to the DP in on the motherboard. this is used to feed video on the thunderbolt 4 ports.

It's amazing how many people like the ProArt, highlighting specifically the RGB-less design. I hope we all reward Asus for this, giving clear signal that there are people who do NOT want RGB things for their PCs

That toolless securing mechanism for the M.2 is such a genius idea. More motherboards should have that now that M.2 is becoming more and more popular.

Man.... A well designed, non-gaudy, no-RGB, non-gamery motherboard. I'm in love, that's exactly what I want.

As a designer by trade I really appreciate a brand beginning to make products that aren’t just plastered with RGB and sharp color changes. If that’s your style that great but some of people still like the clean well thought out design aesthetic and it’s nice to see that being addressed!

That Creator board is a sight for sore eyes in our overdesigned gamery BS market.

My friend sent this to me because I was just telling him yesterday that I dont care for a bunch of RGB on my pc I use for creating. The timing is great lol

Really like that creator board. Hope more brands come out with clean looking mid-level boards.

You ought to keep the Jay theme going with 12 days of HoliJays Christmas video specials.

That Proart board is making me want to rebuild my whole system. It's so classy! It reminds me of a different time, it's almost retro. Also, Thunderbolt 4 on an AMD board?! Simply amazing!

They supply the CD in case you're in a location without internet, poor internet, or even an air-gapped setup. Sure it doesn't make sense for most people, but if you're the guy building an epic gaming rig in a cave in the wilderness, it makes sense. This is the same reason they send paper instructions with everything still. You could go download the instructions, but if you don't have internet you would just have to guess.

Both boards have DisplayPort INPUT, not out. It's for passing video from the GPU into the Thunderbolt ports

A CD included with the ProArt makes sense.. not all company workstations have internet access, some are only closed/internal network or isolated for security purposes or what have you. Also a lot of professional studios still install software via physical media or use older software that isn't available anymore or superseded but serve a niche purpose or used by veteran artists who refuse to learn/use the new titles, but whatever the case, these workstations (or most in general) still utilize dvd/cd drives.

I just installed the Extreme yesterday. One thing to be aware of it that the M.2_1, M.2_2, and M.2_3 all share PCIe bandwidth with the CPU. Only M.2_1 will be recognized until you change the settings in the BIOS to be PCIe 4.0x16 + M.2_2 + M.2_3. This will result in your GPU running in 4.0 x 8 mode and your M.2s all running in 4.0 x 4 mode. If you want to keep your GPU in 4.0 x 16 mode, you cannot use M.2_2 or M.2_3. In that case you must use the DIMM.2 expansion to access the PCIe lanes from the chipset. I have three PCIe 4.0 NVME M.2 drives with a 3080 Ti...the difference is less than 1fps so not a huge deal with current gen GPU, but if you plan on keeping the mobo for a few years we may end up seeing GPUs that need more than 4.0 x 8 or 3.0 x 16. This board is the only one I found that works well and is stable with G.Skill 3600 14-14-14-34 Ram and multiple PCIe 4.0 NVME drives. My ASRock Taichi didn't handle the combo. The Gigabyle X570S Aorus Master worked fine with the NVME drives, but when my Phanteks RGB devices were plugged in on the 5V ARGB header it caused weird power fluctuations that killed my other GPU. Specifically, the case fans and GPU were getting power when the PC was turned off if the 5V ARGB was connected. I'd avoid the Gigabyte if you plan on using a Phanteks Digital RGB hub. One other thing, don't do anything until you update the Extreme's BIOS. I couldn't load Windows with three different sets of RAM until I updated to the latest BIOS 0402. And also be aware that there is no "XMP" or "DOCP" option in the BIOS. In order to get mine to run at rated speed I had to change two separate settings: 1. Change speed to 3600 and 2. then load the applicable timing profile. Doing only one or the other did not work. These settings are not done in the same location in the BIOS.

Kind of interesting how gamers are often put off by the 'gamery' designs. I'm definitely one of those that prefer a little subtlety.

There is 5 M.2's besides the two he uncovered and the DIMM, the other one is located right beneath the CPU.

Jay, the short DP cable is for the thunderbolt video passthrough. you glazed right over the "DP IN" port on the backpanel. I REALLY like those Proart boards, but man they are pricey for what they are.

All the DP are "IN" in case you want to use passthrough from your gfx to the motherboard (thus the short DP cable 😎) and out from the TB4 ports to whatever display you have. Also bear in mind that eGPU is not yet active on AMD boards, a firmware fix should be on the way 👍🏼👍🏼.

Those little latches for the M.2 is the best idea somebody from Asus came up with. The day i got them at my job i was jumping with joy .

I would LOVE that Extreme but I already sold most of my internal organs back in the early 2000’s on PC hardware.

Both boards look so nice, however I think I would go with the creator board since I love a more minimal aesthetic. Thanks for the awesome video!

Beautiful MBs, can't wait to install them into a nice windowless case.

that proart is perfect for music production - lots of usb for audio and midi interfaces, lots of fast storage for vsts and sample libraries etc.

I have to say it, I'm in love w that proart mobo... As someone who has rgb on almost every component except his desk tools... I'm really aching to build a blacked out ZeroLED machine...

That proart looks so classy. Do a "if Frank Sinatra had a pc" build lol

I really love that the pins are coming off the side! This should CLEARLY be made standard! No more forcing the cables to bend and they can be naturally plugged to the side of the board! Excellent!

Thank you soooo much for this video. I was interested in learning more about the X570 ProArt board and saw this video show up. Perfect timing and an excellent overview of the board and it's features. At the risk of being redundant, thanks again!

my first flatscreen monitor i bought had a sticker on it, saying compatible with Windows 7 😂😂

“Creator” focused applications like octane and premier use multi gpu without SLI so the 3 full length slots make sense

Hats off to Phil, Nick, and Jay for pumping these vids out!! Great work all!

the pro art is so beautifull. and can handle gaming setup extremely well. Damn that thunderbolt and dual USB c is bad ass. and a DVD driver holy shit....

That smudge on that brand new Corsair monitor though. I've seen that same smudge in multiple video's now and it is driving me crazy. CLEAN YO SHIT JAY!

Jay: Especially how cheap M.2s have gotten. Me: Cries in Australian, where they are still expensive.

Glad to see some thunderbolt options appearing on AMD boards. My audio interface requires thunderbolt, and I would like to make my next rig AMD.

It clearly says "DP In 1" and "DP In 2" on the rear I/O corresponding to the dual USB C Thunderbolt ports. They're not DP out XD

Jay!!! That’s a display port in! That’s so you can use the gpu for thunderbolt displays

Display ports on both motherboards are market as DP IN for the thunderbolts

I've moved all our AMD X570 based workstations to the Pro Art X570. We use Thunderbolt 3 for Zero/Low Latency high channel count audio interfaces and also for DSP acceleration. Previously we were using the ASRock x570 creator which were great, but the built in networking with the Pro Art is insane and really sold it. Also, looks damn classy and very understated.

Jay, the short display port cable, is to connect the display port OUT of your video card to the Display port IN on the back of the Motherboard connectors, this feature will enable the two USB-C/Thunderbolt connectors for video out and monitors that support USB-C/Thunderbolt video Video IN. It's in the manual on the optical disk.

This is why i want to buy another ASUS board again, never had issues with them and they have solid build quality and good support

My first Jaytober makes me excited for next year

Awesome. Would be cool to see how well Thunderbolt works on AMD. I know Gigabyte have been releasing some Thunderbolt add-in cards and their B550 Vision line is also Thunderbolt capable.

12:59 I would think it's a device to plug a headset into. Creative often bundles one with many of their headsets often ones that have a combi plug instead of the typical mic and headphone plugs. But ironically their internal sound cards often have the connections split. It's also if you're using it with a laptop that has a USB plug, but no headphone jack you can use that to plug it into it and allows the user to use the software for the headset and improves sound quality usually.

The Crosshair board actually has FIVE m.2 slots, hence the lack of PCIe slots.

So we're now 2 release phases into people getting this wrong: That Displayport port at the top is an IN to encode the displayport video out from your graphics card onto the Thunderbolt ports. Without that port being plugged in you do not get video over thunderbolt on Ryzen. Thunderbolt support in Ryzen has existed since Day 1 of X570. Most other motherboards that support it have a header for an add-in card to be placed in PCiE slot 5. What I'm curious about is: The older X570 boards that had Thunderbolt 3 ports instead of the add-in Card (ASRock phantom gaming ITX/Creator/Aqua and a non-ASRock model I can't recall) were wattage limited to 15W, and the models that supported add-in cards (ASRock Taichi, Gigabyte Aorus Master, etc) supported up to 85W to power connected devices, what can these do?

I have the Extreme and it even has a small microwave oven compartment. You can only do one hot pocket at a time, though.

AMD with Thunderbolt! Finally starting to appear on high end / gaming boards. Very happy to see, even though it will be a while before I can even think about building a new setup. I love the look of the ROG Crosshair VIII Extreme.

I probably will pick up some asus board in the future. I had one of the sabertooth FX boards until recently and I loved that thing. Never an issue with it. Seems like a good idea to see if AMD will change the socket though, Jumping in with a pricy board and then discovering I have one generation on it feels like a waste to me.

Another sign AMD has disrupted the market: The overall quality of AMD boards has gone up significantly.

Wow just today I was thinking “I’ve never struggled more on a PC than trying to screw that tiny m.2 bolt in.” That swivel mechanism on the creator board is the perfect answer and I need 1.

I would love to get my hands on a pro art board to match the aesthetic I want to go for with a nice clean blacked out system that has minimal lighting.

might want to take a look at the renderer, the last few vids has some really fuzzy colors, black especially which is a shame given these lovely products' color ^^

ALWAYS ENJOYING THE JAYTOBER MY MAN GREAT CONTENT!! 😀

The extreme board has 5x m.2 slots you missed checking out the one closest to the CPU. 2 on the dimm, 2 at the bottom heatsink, and 1 near the CPU.

15:37 No, I would assume this is additional power for the front USB-C 3.2 located right next to it, that support PD 3.0 (60 Watt)!

I own an x570 godlike, but I am very tempted to get the Crosshair. I love Asus boards so much.

backplate would have been nice on the motherboard ;D

That ProArt board is beautiful. I love the sleek dark look to it, id take it over the flashy boards for aesthetics.

I just completed a build with the Extreme and a 5950x and it is absolutely insane. Love it!

I wish I waited for the new X570 boards, I bought one when they first launched and even the B550 boards have some better features.

always nice to buy the crosshair VIII HERO for them to come out with the EXTREME a month later. My balls, they hurt

The short cable is for bypassing a signal to mb, which then sends it via tb4 protocol on usb c on the mobo along with all the tb4 bells and whistles of tb4

Already feels like Christmas with these Jaytober episodes, thank you!

Oh, that Pro art one is slick. I like it alot. The X570 chipset is way too expensive for me personally rn so I'll stick with my Rog B550. But it it nice and is definitely a potential upgrade in the future.

Can we take a moment to appreciate that front panel connector adaptor?

Those tool-less m.2 retainers are so cool. I definitely don't NEED them, but they would make swapping drives so easy

@JayzTwoCents 3:23 Some many of us out here in the real world still use optical drives. Try to remember that your usage scenario isn't everyone's usage scenario. So yeah, DVD with drivers and utilities is a good thing.

What do you have against optical disks? They are still extremely useful and I never buy a case that would not have room for optical disk drive. People just dont seem to understand what advantages using optical disks for data have.

"AMD DRIVER CD...it slices and dices and makes thousands of Julianne fries"

That ProArt motherboard sounds really awesome. I wish more motherboards had all those features and connectivity.

Thunderbolt has been royalty free and open since Intel opened TB3 a few years back and it has been offered by Asrock on some of their X570 boards. Thunderbolt 4 changes things a little as it is basically USB4 but with all the features required while USB4 has a much lower feature requirement.

That's a DP in on the ProArt!

AMD boards use Intel partsd still. I think for AMD to really say its better now is to make its own parts entirely.

This will definitely work with cases like a Midi Tower Cougar MX330. Picked it up yesterday and it has a shit loud of wholes to route cables. When I don’t like though is that it has the bay for a 5.25 drive which nobody uses. You can obviously leave that empty, they put a metal mesh there

I wish this board came out sooner, I ordered the Crosshair 8 Hero WiFi last October ahead of the Ryzen 5000 launch, although that is still a great board.

"They give you QR codes to download stuff, that makes sense" said no one ever... unless their desktop, SSD or Windows 11 actually has a QR scanner in it. (OK, smart people can transfer the link to the desktop, or use some other service/utility... but still, QR codes. :P )

That Content creator board looks sweet and exactly what my wife's 3D Modeling computer could use on the next upgrade. Thanks for showing it off Jay!

Even though that plexi sheild looks nice on the ProArt board, the PCH die would probably get better thermals if it was removed, if there's good airflow in the case.

As far as the driver disk is concerned. Yes really. It is easier if you're having buggy issues before the drivers are loaded to just slap the disk in and make sure all the devices are recognized and then update as necessary. But that new creator board looks sick.

Is it me or was something messed up with the settings during the filming/rendeing? The quality seems unusually grainy, kinda like poor low light performance but it's all the time and even in areas that seem to be lit fine. Could be that the entire workshop wasn't lit properly and the camera did it's best to make it look somewhat lit.

I never really went for "Gaming" labels when trying to upgrade my gaming PC since I know those are just marketing gimmicks to add extra $$ on the price but I have also avoided "Pro" or Designer" labeled products too thinking those are mostly for professionals/content creators (for the most part) only. So far I haven't had any luck what so ever with a Motherboard that does NOT have RGBs screaming all over it. I guess it's time to check out those other labels as well.

The ProArt board is what I've been considering for my server build, it's a really interesting board in the way they have things laid out. The second M.2 actually steals PCIe lanes from the PCIe x16 link so you can have two M.2's running off the CPU. Planning on upgrading my main system to a Zen3 3D Cache Refresh chip and using my current 3900x in a server to replace my old R710.

Always loved the Crosshair boards. Had a Crosshair IV Formula paired with my Phenom X6. Beast of a board.

If I didn't already have a decent motherboard, the ProArt would definitely have been high on my "to buy" list. Personally I hate the unicorn barf visual assault RGB a lot of board manufacturers make these days, so it's good to see a nice, clean, non-gaudy motherboard.

Dude!!! What’s the VRM situation on these boards? What’s the memory topography? What’s the heat sink situation (ie: are they still just big chunky blocks?)? Do they support dual bios? Are there bios selection switches on the board, or is it software based dual bios? How many layers is the actual PCB substrate? So many important unanswered questions…

17:25 Running an APU on that kind of motherboard may seen like a bad idea, but when you think about the fact you may be selling your GPU for a better one in the future, or your GPU may die for some reason, then having the ability to display image to your monitor while you wait for the new one to come seems a lot more enticing. Plus troubleshooting.

The 6 pin next to the 24 pin on the extreme is for TB4 Power delivery. DP in... not out... also for TB4. There is a third, and primary M.2 slot under the OLED display. Maybe... idk... read the pdf manual before filming the unboxing?

feutures we are still waiting for: msi releasing a working mobo

You say "Really?" about the CD with the mobo, but I frankly appreciate that they're still including them. I still use a CD drive, and it's nice to have any software I may need, on a nicely labeled disc, without looking. It's not necessary, but it's got some niche cases, and I appreciate the little extra effort. Also, it's cool to see some motherboards focused on things other than gaming, or just being a shitty bare bones mobo.

the reason they give DVDs now especially is bios flash back i think its amazing having another option for flashing the bios i still have a couple dvd drives in my closet just in case i ever need them

3:28 My Ryzen build included intentionally an Asus optical drive and I did use the driver disc that came with my Asus X570 tuf gaming motherboard last March.

It's kinda sad that we need a OS system ready motherboard... I'm calling it. Win 11 is a next win 8

The way Jay said "we will see when alder lake comers out" says it all. He knows intel will catch up some but wont be able to beat AMD yet again with another generation of intel cpu's. Im so happy for the competition AMD provides to the two most greedy company's in the world. Intel and Nvidia. You put all three together you get RGB ! BAZINGA

You missed the 3rd m.2 slot on the board under the lcd panel for a total of 5 m.2 slots. You can run them in any raid config.

That Asus X570 Crosshair VIII Extreme Board is the most full featured board built to date and is hella gorgeous

I love the look of ASUS’s ProArt series. Curious how well it will overclock. I understand creators may not care about that though.

On a side note, Jay, did the daily upload feed the algorithm well enough? As a former KZfaq content strategist, I'm genuinely interested. Thanks!

Please! Can't wait to see a build with that crosshair board! Because, I'm at that point, it's been so long since I've built a completely new system (for myself) I'm doing research and trying to decide now. My personal builds are usually huge, best hardware I can afford and to last. The art board is more my style but I just love the features, build quality and hulking size(yes, that's what she said, lol!) of the Crosshair and my case will accommodate it and since it's gunmetal grey, it will look quite sweet. But I am awaiting info, any issues like what about bios flashback, I haven't ever had issues but I know you have.

there is also a 3th m.2 slot under the little center screan.