so if you left msi running it would be like in a hospital Dr says you need rest nurses wake you up every 15 mins lol

Curious how the Liquid Metal will fair overtime, I've been replacing a ton of LM in misc. ASUS over the past few months due to overheating.

$3700...It's called "Bleeding Edge Tech" for a reason, and the victim is your wallet! Ouch!

Thank you for saying it's the mobile version and not like desktop 4090. I'm tired of hearing " this laptop has RTX 4090!" from other reviewers.

Slips in between the 4070 super and ti in PR scores. It matches 3080ti and 3090 dedicated desktop scores almost spot on.

I have been using gaming laptops for the past 10-15 years, and I just love how far they have evolved. I currently rock a 2021 Legion 7i with a 11800H, a GeForce 3080 (16 GB VRAM!!), 32GB RAM and 2TB SSD storage - I just freaking love this machine.

Thanks to your sponsored iFixit reads, I was able to do my own RAM upgrade using an iFixit kit on my Alienware m18 r2 recently, and purchased an iFixIt kit as a result. So, I appreciate every laptop review that you do, sir!

I picked up an Alienware laptop with a Radeon HD 5850 back in... 2010-11? Now I'm sitting here with an m15r4 that far outstrips it. The jump is definitely crazy. Miss that old hotrod look though, lol.

Snapdragon X: Liquid Metal for cooling?... Hold my beer.

I was an early-adopter of the first 17" laptops. It was an Acer and it was a beast. This was years before gaming-laptops became a thing. This thing is so refined it boggles my mind to think about how they managed to get it so right in all the places.

Special thanks to Jay for almost always providing metric measurements for those of us not in the USA.

I love how easy that back came off. I hate when companies make them have a 100 plastic locks that break if you dont pry them just right.

Edit #2: Since some of ya's are just gonna spam "my machine is fine :)" you are missing the point- the risk is inherently higher with LM. If you shake your laptop or take it on a plane or it has a rough time moving around in a backpack you incur a risk that does not exist with other solutions like PTM. Not to mention it's quite common for LM to need reapplication. If you want 2-3 years maintenance free usage out of your laptop you should avoid this solution. Also big shout out to G-Helper if you use an Asus laptop, it removes all the bloat of armory crate and lets you control power limits/profiles in a much more convenient way. Original comment: Word of warning to anyone considering a laptop with Liquid Metal. Get ready to tear up that laptop and replace the LM once the LM suffers from pump out after a few months. My Strix 17 SE with LM had to be disassembled due to 100c temps with Liquid Metal because ALL of the Liquid metal just left the CPU & GPU's dies and was just pooled up around it. I've put PTM on both dies and replaced the thermal putty with UPSIREN U6 PRO and I've not had any temp issues since, it runs even better than with Liquid Metal since it doesn't move off the die or have random hotspots where the LM just left. Edit #1 : This isn't a guarantee that it will happen but you should be prepared for the strong possibility of needing to reapply it or replace it entirely. You are warned that LM is not reliable for long term maintenance free use cases, so you may have to open it and reapply or have your laptop sent back and get screwed by whatever warranty they use. That risk simply doesn't exist with most other solutions. I personally will never buy another liquid metal based laptop and keep to any that use either ptm or normal paste. Also, there are tons of posts online about this issue but guess what these laptops cost 2000-3000 so not like there's gonna be millions of reports when it's an enthusiast ridiculous price.

Most trackpads actually only have one button in the way to sense that it's been pushed down and use the location of your finger to determine if it was a left or right click

I thought this was going to be the Titan 18HX Laptop. Dang.

I recently purchased a foldable laptop stand that I take with me when I leave my office. It too gives the same cooling as your Ifixit kit, LOL. Thanks for the video. I am running an Eon 17 with the 14900hx and 4080 .

Thank you for showing this one, Jay. I'm a gamer and have no space for a desktop. If you can review any other gaming laptops, I'll definitely be watching!

kids touching my notebook....nope...I taught them not to touch mine 🤣I also never gave them an old keyboard to play with it just teaches them to push the buttons on yours. Great review just a little to pricy for my taste, I stick to my desktop for now.

Thanks, Steve! (Nice cameo :3 )

Lol the photo of the lawyer with the ROG laptop. Totally forgot about that 😂

25:48 These “diving board” trackpads have 1 button in the center. It tells left/right button click by where your finger is on the surface, since the entire surface senses where your finger is. Ideally a haptic one is always better (it is more expensive however, but prevents issues like Dell XPS 15/17’s trackpad wobble when they redesigned the lineup with the huge trackpad back in 2020) or if you’re a boomer like me, a pointing stick

The fact that you can get a mini threadripper with good gaming and ok battery life on a laptop is just crazy.

I remember having an old IBM Thinkpad R60 back in the day that would sometimes overheat when doing big Installs I needed to do for University You made me think of it when you said you tilted it up to get more air flow Anyway one time I needed it not to overheat so I propped it up on some textbooks and bought 2 Cans of Pepsi to stick underneath it such that their coolness could cool the air going into the fans. It worked and I was able to get the install done properly :)

i just switched my laptop over from thermal paste to liquid metal. the difference in power and performance is awesome. i never thought for a second it would make that much difference. hardcore gaming my temps are almost 15c lower

With only a 280 W brick, and the TDP of a 14900HX and 4090 Mobile, you better believe your paying for just the names. There's no way they aren't crippling those chips.

I really appreciate Jay’s reviews and whether it is sponsored or not, the reviews are great and honest - Jay has been in this business for a long time and knows the correct process - Jim

Please keep making videos of laptop Jay 😊

22:48 Oh, gee, Jay! I think I need my glasses for this! :P

The last placed I worked at (Retired now) has almost completely transitioned to using laptops over desktops except for those doing dedicated graphics or CAD work. Most of the folks there needed the capability to work remote or other mobility reasons. Exception were those few who did not need any mobility functions. It used to be that laptops were so underpowered that it was ancillary to desktops, but now with the laptops being as capable as all but the high end desktops it makes sense.

This is a crazy powerhouse of a laptop, and the ability to keep it from reaching thermal limiting under load is insane, especially in such a thin chassis. Good on Corsair for including a 2nd NVMe drive slot. My HP Victus 16 only has a single NVMe drive slot, so when I had to increase my storage I had to do a full clone - & - swap, which for the average user isn't an easy task especially when the Windows included method is "broken" and causes more issues than not. A 2nd NVMe slot shouldn't be an "upgrade" for laptops/mobo. Sure don't populate it, but give the consumer the option to add an additional drive. Overall I'm really liking the design of this laptop and the performance is a tank! Great video, love that you're feeling better!

Be careful with origin, I bought a top of the line sli laptop years back and it was terrible. It was their Australian branch which is defunct now but when I gave it a bad review on a review site, they got it removed by saying it was an old outdated review. It was still under warranty. I managed to get the review reinstated after a long time and a lot of hassle proving to the review site that it was still under warranty. Origin then told me they would look after me if I removed the review. I did and guess what, they never did anything to the laptop. Buyer beware.

I would love to know how this unit performs while playing Star Citizen.

Ive been looking at laptops lately but i would like a review or two on some decent beginner ones that can still run some games. This one is a stud though.

I don't have a personal laptop, but I have a couple of work ThinkPads. I open them and stand them up like a tent or teepee when I'm working. I have external kb/mouse and monitors with a thunderbolt dock. My Ryzen ThinkPad isn't too hot, but my 11th gen i7 ThinkPad gets pretty hot with just basic office work. I work in IT, and most of my stuff is in a browser. I'm not even running CPU intensive apps. Laptop open in the teepee config is the coolest running option I've found.

Looks great! Wonderful performance. Great fly boogies what a price. I knew it would be that expensive though. Awesome review vid y'all.

JAY! In Cyberpunk, using standard raytracing, ray reconstruction actually looks great and performs better by a few frames per second! Granted I'm also running at 1080p but still

I own this laptop. I bought it about three months ago for $5300. The only difference between mine and yours is mine has a 4K 144 hz display, 3M.two ports and two USB three on the left side and two thunderbolt four on the right. keyboard gets way too hot to touch while playing games in 4K. Unless you use a really good cooling pad like I do.

Jay has the best sponsor blocks on YT

I still have the OG chonk that took two power bricks lol

what would your budget gaming setups look like pc and gaming laptop versions

I hated doing video-conferencing with my therapist during COVID. Her laptop's mic turned off if she looked at her local PC even a little. I have no idea why someone would put that in a laptop.

Gallium nitride has nothing to do with capacitors, at least not directly, it is for the MOSFETs. They are more efficient than 'traditional' silicon-based transistors.

I love the idea of a gaming laptop, but I dont think i could live with it constantly plugged in.

I don't understand why they don't make it a little thicker and better cooling, the temperatures are high in the game without a doubt, 87 degrees for cpu is to high...I will always opt for a thicker laptop with better cooling,otherwise the laptop is very powerful.

my biggest complaint with gaming laptops is the lack of space under the laptop to allow airflow. they always put the shortest feet to prop up the laptop. it does basically nothing. i had to buy a laptop stand to allow my computer to not overheat itself to death.

391 views in 3 mins. Jay my boy, this might go viral

I like the 16:10 ratio. I had a hp monitor that was 16:10 a while back and I loved the ratio. I have a surface device and they are 3:2, and I find that a little too square when using it multi purpose, for movies and applications. I think 16:10 could be the sweet spot

What would it cost to build this laptop (performancewise) as a PC? Considering the cost of at least the minimum required peripherals (comparable screen, usable yet simple keyboard and mouse or trackpad).

I like how it looks like a generic business laptop from the previous decade and not all that aggro design gaming laptops come with.

It's insane how big the XBone brick is compared to this.

Honeywell phase change pads is the way to go. I love my 4090 mobile.

The point of RTX is / was the same as it is / was with physiX, when it first came out. It adds little, costs alot, but at one point in time it will become common, affordable and indispensable. And then we wait for the next big thing again :)

I ran a Port Royal run just to see where I was at with my 7900XTX (ASRock, Taichi) and I hit 17777 with a stock cooler. Not terrible. You should run some stuff on the new one Steel Nomad.

So basically you could have 16tb of storage, 32 once those new M.2s come out.

GaN refers to the transistors. They are more expensive versus Si but better for high power applications

VIdeo idea - Cooling matts comparison

During the GPU shortages, the best way for me to get a decent gaming computer was to actually use a gaming laptop as a desktop.

24:15 The thermal pad looks shiny; is the protective plastic left on?? 🤔

Absolutely mental how far we’ve come. Something of this size a few years ago would not even come close to desktop performance.

Replaced my mom's 5 year old laptop (with a trackpad which wouldn't always click) with a new Lenovo. The trackpad's right click left clicks, even at the far right corner. And the left corner was almost proud of the chassis. Sent it back for an Asus which is better but still not a perfect finish, but at least clicks properly. I don't know why it's so hard to make a decent trackpad.

I had my custom laptop built by CLX back in 2021 and it's fantastic. Spent $5k on it and then personally built my desktop for a little more than i spent on the laptop about 6 months later.

17:46 there is... watercool it as I do for my laptops :)

13:15 LED's use so much less power than a large screen at full brightness, you won't even notice if they are turned on and you turn off the screen

remember everyone, it doesnt need to get bigger to give more power :)

That's a Lenovo Legion chassis. They've definitely skimped on the R&D money...

22:46 I thought you were talking to me for a sec there

Distracted driving... Hilarious!

I wonder if engineers ever considered aerodynamically enhanced laptops to increase airflow, similar to the floor under a Formula 1 car causing such extreme suction you could drive it on the ceiling at high-speed.

The last real gaming laptop from originPC was the EON17-X in the old case. They needed to move in this direction, and not go like everyone else. Let's stuff top-end components into a regular case - just an ingenious solution from marketers.

Can I set the battery charge to stop at 80% and leave it plugged in all of the time without destroying the battery? If so this might be an ideal workstation computer that is normally docked.

The only thing that would make it better would be a touch screen... I'm impressed.

Picked up a good gaming laptop myself. Very nice much human and usable.

Gaming laptops have improved significantly over the years. They now offer better performance and build quality. However, their keyboards often become too hot, the fans are excessively loud, and the prices remain high. These issues are common across all gaming laptops, buying them isn't worth it in most cases.

I would love to see Jays opinion on the Framework 16 laptop. A modular laptop with right to repair friendly components. I like the idea but they’re pricey.

The heat has to be like the sun with that build. Not just the laptop but the power brick might be a fire hazard. My current Lenovo Laptop can get like the sun after 30 minutes, so how is this managing this. I am seeing new laptops with external liquid coolers which kinda kill mobility.

It actually looks and sounds pretty good for on-board mic and camera

I would like to have a laptop in my life again... but know I would struggle with the adjustment to not sitting at my desk & using my desktop.

Get your bag jay 🤝

I use a cooling pad (more of a unit) that has a gasketed area under the laptop and pulls fresh air into that for the laptop to gobble up. It dropped my laptop 3080Ti over 15 degrees. Its chonky so I leave it at home but best $70 I have ever spent on a laptop cooler.

are we comparing prebuilt pc sales to laptop sales? I feel thats unfair since most of the people i know would be building their own pcs thus not being in the statistic of overall sales...

it would be cool if you did a video were you compare the battery life of a laptop like this in it's out of the box state and with a minimalist windows 11 os (like altas os or Tiny11) and see if there's a noticeable improvement

The keyboard will only heat up at uncomfortable levels with max loading like gaming. I use a separate gaming keyboard for comfort when I game anyway.

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Rockin my 2024 Asus Scar 16. It is awesome and probably the most tweakable stock laptop.

Seems like its still too thick compared to most similar laptops. The Lenovo Legion Pro 7i or 9i are much thinner with similar performance.

Disable that darn webcam in BIOS, lol

It is TDP, The D stands for Design!. Not Desktop.

I wish for the days of removable batteries (like my old Dell XPS) so we can blow by those TSA requirements. Not bad though. I am always on the move so the laptop is an absolute.

I don't even waste my time with laptops these days, but that one I might consider.

I suppose some folks might hate laptops. I don't. However, I hate the price. I think you might find that a lot of people hate the price one has to pay for PC-equivalent performance. I'd sooner just pack my PC and take it with me to wherever I'm going instead of spending a boatload on a laptop. Is that laptop badass? Oh, of course it is. But it's bloody expensive. Until there's a solution for that problem, I think you'll find most folks using PCs will just continue using PCs.

great review, I'm look for a laptop to have when blackouts occur, I got a generator without an inverter and wont chance using my desktop 7950X - X670 AORUS AX without an S wave. Still a lot of money to spend just to have something to pull out for only when you need it and two grand will buy a nice battery inverter or replace the generator that has an inverter on it. The keyboard test sounded like a little kid running barefoot on a hard wood floor lol

it has a keypad, nice , the price for only 16" hand heater is awful ...

8:30 Jay, be proud of who you are, if you like games, it's ok to use a laptop that can game. There is nothing embarassing, and no shame in using a gaming laptop to do work on. It's ok. You can do it!

I actually like the look of this laptop and the hardware isn't that bad. Would like to see an AMD solution though, with Strix Point / Strix Halo (Zen 5) coming out this year.

$3700 is way lower than I expected. I expected this to be 5k+

As much as I love watching videos about insane laptops like this, is there any way you could cover a few office oriented laptops built with all day batteries etc... as well? Thank you!

the scale for temperatures vs color is inverted... in the scale, red is cool and blue warm XD

$3000+ 4090 stock, for anyone wondering.

If I had no money concerns, I would get this thing no questions asked. What a machine. The only way it would be better is if it spoke to you in a seductive voice.

8:19 I kind of feel like they could've fit two or three more ports back there.