If you had to choose 1 wife who would it be? Sylphiette, Roxy or Eris? 🤔💭💭Watch the FULL uncut reaction on Patreon: www.patreon.com/officialJDanime

"Grandma, my husband cheated on me" "I know, dear. I told him to."

One thing I like about this episode is that they were totally upfront. Roxy admits what she did was wrong, that she was being selfish, and she doesn’t try to justify it. Mushoku tensei has some of the realest character writing.

An important note is that Zenith and all of her family are Millis followers, making her situation different again.

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The main difference between Paul and Rudy’s case is that Rudy isn’t going to hide a secret about it so in a sense (if imperfect) Rudy isn’t quite doing as much of a betrayal as Lilia and Paul’s case. Rudy at least has the intention to own up at the first opportunity. Also Roxy and Elinalise are female best friends who’ve spent years bonding while reuniting Rudy’s family well before Elinalise realized Sylphy was her granddaughter so Elinalise also has a stake in Roxy’s happiness.

Great analysis. Show the LN readers we anime onlys don't need every little detail to get to the same conclusion in the end.

We have to take in consideration one thing too, Sylphie is an Elve, she's gonna live a lot longer than Rudeus, so chances she is going to have more partners and lovers way after Rudeus so in the matter of time maybe for Sylphie this might become something of an understanding. Its hard to mull over it really.

wow i really love that you guys take the time to reflect on the episode! it was so fun to watch ❤

The heart wants what the heart wants

The reason why Zenith freaked out so much when she found out that Lilia was prehgnant wasnt just because of the cheating. It was because Zenith was a follower of the Millis religion. That made it double bad for her now that you know how strict the millis religion is about poligamy. But despite all that she was the one that suggested for Paul to marry Lilia too. And over the years she and Lilia became like sisters.

Eris shows up with a child would have been crazy🤣

I just have to say that... Sylphie is a very smart elf.

Thoroughly enjoyed the level-headed discussion 👍

One thing that was pretty significant, but changed in the anime adaptation, is how insistent Elinalise was for Roxy to comfort Rudeus. I believe Lise said something to Roxy if it weren't for her love for Cliff, she would've tried to comfort Rudy. Also, Lise told Rudy that Roxy didn't have her period to have him marry her out of responsibility as he kept hesitating.

8:38 if anyone has the name of that song (ik it's the opening on piano but i mean the version) pls tell me it Edit: Just found it, its "Nakanaori"

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The thing is I like both Sylphie and Roxy and I dont want anyone of them to be sad. The author did a good job to make me care about both of them. So I have to agree with Rudy. As long as everyone agrees there is no harm and it can make their family stronger.

Problem is when Sylphie said she's ok with Rudeus having another woman., Rudeus already said he wouldn't.. So I'm curious how Sylphies gonna react.. she'll probably be fine about it but hope they make it interesting. Also ManGod talks like he can see the future so he probably knows and this might be a part of his manipulation.🤷

A major sticking point of his inner monologue and depression (though really it was more survivor's guilt that had him paralyzed) that wasn't very well articulated in the anime, was him trying to wrap his head around Paul seeing him as his son and sacrificing himself, while he never really recognize Paul as his father. Though with Paul dying, he no longer has any opportunity to return that sentiment to Paul or Zenith. That Paul was the one who should have come back to be with the family. Agonizing over the idea that he had made the same mistake in his past life and missed the opportunity with his first parents, having never even tried.

I liked the discussion a lot 😊

21:32 I think The Techi Muyo series does that. I want to say it gets confirmed in the 3rd or 4th season of the original series ( not Tenchi Universe or Tenchi in Tokyo)

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Nice reaction, hopefully you guys will react to "Delicious of dungeon"!

I don't get it. Why people get scared/disgusted when they think of polygyny in irl.

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The LN showed Rudy has a much worse depression than when eris left him. No eating hardly drinking. Then the Goddess brings him back to life..

Yeah, let's not forget it was Sylphie who suggested Rudeus should get a girl on the side to have children with. Him cheating on Sylphie was an absolute dick move and she's probably gonna be really sad about the betrayal, but the idea of him having multiple partners shouldn't be that big of a deal for her. I think the damage in trust will be the biggest problem. Also, did we forget about Eris and Sara already? I'm pretty sure he'll end up with more than just 2 partners if this keeps up, lol.

The author understood that a certain number of people would not accept this episode, but they put a lot of effort into making it more acceptable to a wider audience. The remarkable aspect of this work is the thorough construction of customs, morals, and ethics in the alternate world, which adds a lot of credibility. It's also important, but understandable, to separate reality from fiction. Additionally, I think the way characters like Paul and Elinalise, who might cause psychological resistance based on our own ethical standards, are introduced as a lead-up and buffer for this episode is brilliant. Even though Elinalise can't exactly give permission, she is a person who has been a very close friend to Roxy, is grandmother to Sylphie, has had bad history with Paul AND has now been dating a devout MIlis believer. It's very sad to see people immediately point how or who is in the wrong when the show already spells that out to you and focuses instead on how these adults with flaws and faults handle it and make it work. we can be pissed at the idea, but they can do what they want as long as all of them are consenting. For me it's the difference between harem and actual polygomy.

I want to see sylphie and Roxy do a mock battle it’ll be so cool

context Zenith is a true beliver of Millis thats why, despite Lilia beying practiclly a sister to her, she was crushet at the beginig this time aroun Millis is out of the picture sp unlike Zenith which reaction was a garantede , Sylphu is kinda a mistery

I think having 2 wives is ok as long as you can support both and love them Equally I think it's fine. (I'm referring to the anime not Irl. Just wanted to say this before someone attacks me)

I really want to know how Roxy's dad is going to take this. Given her dad already declined Rudy's request for his blessing back in season one 😅😅😅

I hated this when I read it in the LN and tbh, it lowered my opinion of Mushoku Tensei as a story in general. That said, the anime made some changes to this whole sequence that I LOVED... Now don't get me wrong, I'm still not big on this anime becoming a harem anime basically lol. BUT, the way it's been portrayed here in the anime makes me far, FAR more okay with the idea of it than I originally was.

I think in Paul's case it was worse, not only did he cheat but he also got her pregnant Lylia and Zenith was of Millis' religion and in order to marry Paul she asked him for a monogamous relationship. Instead in this case, although Rudy was in very bad condition both physically and mentally, he also cheated, he himself betrayed his convictions, but neither Rudy nor Roxy think of committing without Silphy's consent.

there was one big difference between the ln and the anime, but tbh i liked how the anime handled it way better. spoiler: the difference was in the LN Roxy was seducing him, and at some spot Rudy couldn't contril himself anymore in the anime it was more that roxy was the active part :) also for the Mangods thinking, it will become clear in the next episode i'm pretty sure

what's wrong with more than one wife if both agreed

Both Roxy and Sylphiette will outlive Rudy. Zenith, Lilith, and Paul have normal lifespans.

The Anime doesnt convey this, but Roxy pretty much saved rudies life. He was hold up in his room for a many many days, (i think it was a few weeks), not eating, barely drinking. He was withering away, replaying that moment of his pauls death over and over again. No one could get him to do anything no matter how much they tried. Finally one day Geese brings up that when men are like this, sex can bring them out of it, they all agreed but since sylphie wasnt there and they didnt think rudy would feel good about sleeping with a random person in a brothel, they tried to get Enelise to sleep with him but she refused since hes married to her granddaughter. They kept pleading with her to do it to save rudy. They even suggested that Lilia do it, but that got shot down right away. Roxy after much thought decided that if it would save rudy then she would do it. (Also she wasnt aggressive about it like the anime portrays it.) Also Enelise lies at the bonfire and tells rudy that since him and roxy slept together almost 2 months ago, roxy hasnt had her period. Thats the focal point of all this and its what really pushes rudy to try to make roxy his wife. He really didnt want to betray sylphie, and wasnt going to marry roxy. But if she was going to give birth to his child then he was going to take responsibility for it. Anyways, i just wish the anime went deeper into both of these things cuz it kinda seemed like she forced herself onto him for almost no reason, and he wants to marry roxy purely out of selfishness.

I always wanted Rudy to take Roxy as his second wife, but the way it was handled though? Honestly in fashion with the show. Sylphie & Roxy are the cutest, but Eris no.1 waifu in this show for me.

what about aisha and norn no one mension that shit norn is really loved her father 😢

In the LN, Elinalise told Rudy that Roxy's period hasn't come in 2 months to persuade him.

SPOILER ... Rudy has 3 wives....

Zenith and her family were followers of Millis so she was always opposed to a poly relationship. Remember that the Millis religion is primarily followed by humans other races don’t follow it

They shouldn't have slept together first is my biggest issue. Have some frickin self control until everyone is okay with it.

I see nothing wrong

This episode just skipped too much from LN to actually make it make more sense. In here Roxy just looks like an asshole predator and Rudeus like he didn't care enough. They prob did the best they could, but still could definitely have been done better. "Without the context of "Roxy has already tried to claw Rudeus out of depression every day for over a month," the scene makes zero sense. Without the scene of Elinelise giving her the idea of sex as a last resort to jumpstart any kind of emotional response from Rudeus, the scene makes even less sense. By not showing Roxy understands his current family situation, the context of sacrificing herself and her virginity just as a desperate prayer to help him is criminal. From her perspective, she had no hope of reciprocation and was willing to put how this might hurt her aside; without showing this she comes off as painfully tactless and boneheadedly selfish. She put her needs aside to save the person who saved her. Instead? It looks like she's taking advantage of someone vulnerable to help herself." - Taken from another comment

Sylphie did posit the possibility of Rudy taking a mistress, but he rejected it at the time. At no point did she ever say he get a second wife. The distinction was very important for Aisha, which is why Paul married Lilia, but may not be as important for Sylphie for whatever reason.

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People who know from the light novel what happened 💀

paul have 2 swods (wifes) rudy have 3

Rudy and Sylphie didn't exactly establish a monogamous relationship. In fact Sylphie even suggested that Rudy take extra wife/concubine for a various of reasons. Rudy shot that down and made the promise. Generally speaking male monogamy outside of Christendom wasn't really a thing up until a few centuries ago where the West spread Christianity and Christian values all around the world. But even today, polygamy is accepted in the 2nd largest religion in the world. So prior to Christianity, male monogamy was not part of marriage. Some countries enforced official monogamy, meaning that officially they could only have 1 wife but they usually used prostitution services or had concubines or had mistresses one example of this is Japan prior to Western influence. Others allowed multiple wives if they could take care of them. But enforced male monogamy up until Christianity. Also I purposefully said "male" monogamy because female monogamy was enforced in almost all societies. The fantasy world of Mushoku Tensei is similar to our world in that sense. Elinalise was NOT married and her actions were considered dirty but she was forced to it. Had she not have her curse, she'd probably be married by now to 1 man. The reason why male monogamy and female monogamy are distinct is mainly biological. It is a product of various factors such as paternity/maternity, instincts and natural gender roles.

The chapter was poorly directed. Roxy only takes that action because Rudeus spent days crying and not eating. It didn't show the group thinking of solutions to get him out of depression. It was missing him telling her that he is reincarnated.

In the light novel he became depressed and haven’t interacted with anyone for a week Elinalise suggest to Roxy have sex basically with him to “get back to reality”.

bros reaction is totally the opposite of the girls reaction in this ep damn femenist but you are good woman you understand what its all about

they skipped a lot info. like elinalise said to rudy roxy is pregnant so he should marry her. rudy was not eat anything 1 week so he looks skinny and ın horrible state.