Read your comment before it happened for me and it still got me bad.

Missed opportunity for "makes me jiggle" lol

Breasting boobily is the only way to go around any where

@@alexprus7953 That's how I read it lmao

Funnily enough, according to testimonies of her own soldiers she was quite stacked, and prettty, IRL too. But she was considered too pure of an idol and "one of the guys" to be a target of sexual desire. These testimonies coming from the Papacy launching an inquisitorial investigation into the trial that led Joan to be declared innocent, and everyone involved in sentencing her declared a heretic

Especially at this time, when they were kinda french.

@@MouldMadeMind Kinda. But not really. They were still very different nations even after william became king.

@@MouldMadeMind do not bring the english french near me, there will be dire consequences

ROMAAAA

@@Ianfel1 sounds like Canada, eh?

In Apocrypha her second noble phantasm, La pucelle, actually changes her outfit to that final acension outfit

And looks very cute at 3rd

Isn't that just to hold the gorget in place?

Joan was inducted as a saint long after her execution so this would make sense

That's how I PR at the gym.

I thought it meant the virgin like "The Virgin Mary", essentially her screaming she's a holy maiden or something? But considering that she repeatedly denies being a saint or that i am nowhere near fluent in French. I accept being wrong

I thought it meant something like she is the light or something. Damn it Fate! I bet they thought it sounded cool and did not bother to translated.

@@kattz9051 In french we call the Virgin Mary "la Vierge Marie", not "la Pucelle Marie", cuz even though it essentially means the same thing, "vierge" can also be used in a sense of overall purity, while "pucelle" is really about popping the cherry

Well I know you are stating a fact but the fact itself make me burst out laughing

Which makes it even more correct on fates part because servants are based on the tales told about them

@@user-zo9ce9jp1q man, Vlad the Impaler was fucking rad. Like, having the very obvious thing he's remembered for be a sealed away power that he refuses to use, cause he sees it as a disgrace upon his image. It was such a fun way to play with the power system of the universe.

Right* Short hair and dressing as a man doesn't make someone trans.

​​@@alexanderfailoni1716 not explicitly, but the implications are certainly there. Could be trans, could be just a preferred look, we don't know.

@@NickAsNickName We know why. She dressed as a man because she feared being raped by soldiers otherwise. This was said at her trial. It was an on the books reason for cross-dressing being allowed in specific circumstances. They executed her for it anyway.

I get you but it feels like, you are saying ” ugh, she defended her own country”. I mean… she is French…..

She's getting rid of bri'ish "people"? Awesome

@@RL-DarkSpark but also defending frunch😑

@@RL-DarkSpark Not just the Bri'ish, but the _whole_ of England.

@@RL-DarkSpark not the bri*ish just england; ireland, wales and scottland are fine. Truly a magnificent goal

Glad i'm not the only french who thought of that xD

Definitely beats him sometimes speaking in the most horrible fake German accent ever because that is always a not-so-great moment in my life.

@@floriandolder8111 where did he ever do that?

@@steffy2 He does it on stream sometimes. Oh, and I just realized that that sounded really negative, it was meant to be more of a joke because it is also quite funny. Although it makes me cringe a little everytime too.

Okay but me as Brazilian needs asks you, Shes evil or not?

Honest yet respecting boundaries. I can respect that.

Godzilla had a stroke trying to read the first sentence and died

@@RL-DarkSpark “okay”?

@@RL-DarkSpark "Okay." ? Godzilla needs some reading lessons

@@l.2620 bro not even Duolingo or Grammarly gon help Godzilla out, he on his own

I like that they even give an actually good explanation for that, being that the original Jeanne didn't die with any regret or rancor over her murderers so the Alter one was created based on someone else's twisted feelings for Jeanne. Then when the catalyst for her creation no longer exists she has to find meaning for her existence in other ways while trapped in a Class which inherently makes you obsessive and destructive. The teenage analogy is very fitting. For all the criticism that FGO's early writing and design deserves, this one was an actually good idea IMO.

@@rraimundobruno Jalter is love

The alters themselves aren't actually outright evil, they're more that the vices of the person are escalated over their virtues. Alter Arturia for example, is a massive glutton. A person of vice does lean more towards evil, but not necessarily. In the same way that a virtuous person has vices, a person of vice has virtues. That said, Alter Jeanne is an exception as she's based off of Giles twisted perception of Jeanne and not Jeanne vices...or at least it was that way originally. Retcons aren't always for the better

@@oh7mak alter lancer artoria is still lawful good like normal Lartoria

Side note: Jeanne Alter has one of if not the most fleshed out and completed character arcs in Fate/Grandorder. She first appeared as an antagonist in the 1st Singularity as a being created from a wish with memories not of her own, she was pretty much just a character acting her part. In the first Christmas event, she it was revealed that she can Read and Write, this is important because Original Jeanne can't do those things, because she was an illiterate peasant girl. This starts to show part of Jeanne Alters character, she wants to better than Original Jeanne, more specifically she wants to be someone other than Original Jeanne, because she was just a copy of her, shes got a big identity crisis and self confidence problems hiding in a haughty personality. Then in the event that made her playable, most events are started by wishes from the holy grail by a servant. So what did Jeanne Alter wish for? This supposedly evil servant? She wished for a world where people loved her, she wished for copies of other servants that loved her, that was her wish. And when the event was done and all the copies were defeated and only one was left also fading away, she thought they would curse her for their fate, but instead they told her that they enjoyed their time with her, which just leaves her utterly confused as to how Anyone can like her. After this event you are given the chance to summon her, but in game its assumed you already did, and so you bond with her, ofcourse she pretty much hates us at the start, but her final bond line is pretty her accepting that yes, their is someone willing to stick by her through it all, even if they fall into the depths of hell with her. Then an extra Singularity comes along and shows how much she has bonded with us, someone she hated at first. Shes makes sure we are safe and protected, even going as far as sacrificing her life (temporarily, cause servants can be resummoned) to make sure we make it through alive all the while never losing her attitude, even at the end of the singularity she makes us dance with her because earlier on she missed her chance to do so. And then the final resolution to her character is in her Summer form, where she has finally fully accepted that their are people who like her for who she is, specially scene in her voice lines where in her original form she had pretty much only bad words to say about every other character, but in her Summer form she has alot of caring quotes she says for those same characters she once bad mouthed. She also starts out already liking us even at Bond 0 cause that is the lore of Summer Servants, shes the Alter Jeanne you already summoned just in a swimsuit, she just increases her bond with us some more. Thank you for reading my Tedtalk. Honestly I don't even waifu Jalter that much, I just think she had great character and story from start to finish.

Astolfo did have a crossdressing episode in his saga. Of course he was the comic relief in said tale.

@@clothar23 isnt Jeanne dressing as man considered crossdresing? Because im pretty sure him is going to considered Astolfo Transgender too. Tho i think in Astolfo's case is a bit more complicated.

@@setiem13 She preferred short hair and pants its true. Though I think it was less a desire to appear masculine and more practicality. She did actively lead men into combat after all. And there wasn't a whole lot of armor that would fit around a frock or dress ya know. And after all as pointed out the Maid of Orleans was portrayed as resolutely feminine otherwise in basically all the artwork featuring her. Which to me says Jeanne had no desire to pass as a man. Of course her detractors would say otherwise. And considering any evidence to support either viewpoint is long past its best before date who knows.

astolfo is actually reasonably accurate to his original myth which is pretty funny

Lol thats funny

This and also she's not entirely morally correct because when faced with a morally ambiguous situation, she doesn't always choose the expected "good" answer. She instead stands with conviction for whatever her goals are be it protecting France, her master, or defeating the enemy. Her character is closer to being "unwavering" than "good" because even she acknowledges that, very often, the right thing to do can be a matter of perspective.

@@kattz9051 Obliterating the souls of countless children to end Jack the Ripper in Apocrypha comes to mind lol.

@@dutchvanderlinde248 yeah absolutely. Inarguably fucked up, but she thought it served the greater good in the end even if it wasn't actually the morally righteous thing to do. She doesn't waver in the face of conflict there despite knowing she's committing a form of evil to do good, very good example.

@@kattz9051 That's a great symbolism to religion as a whole isn't it? Murdering countless people "for the greater good"

@@kattz9051 gonna add more to this is her profile 6 in fgo, it stated that " As long as her Master is honorable... No, even if they are dishonorable, Jeanne will never desert them. She will overcome all obstacles with them. However, she is rather strict and will give her Master an earful from time to time." This just added fact that she will do anything for her master and will not abandon her/him, even if her master is doing some pretty shady stuff.

I really wish some of the servants with the monstrous designs like him and Ivan were better, because it makes you feel bad rolling for them over a Merlin or Arjuna if you care even a little about the character's power

He’s basically cyborg centaur quantum computer powered by a nuclear reactor

@@christineboari131 ikr? They need to give the monster servants love. Or really any male servant that's not gil or cu. It took like 5 years to get a male Santa and we still have yet to get a swim suit alt for male servants (not servant outfits).

@@valeviloria1460 the day they have a proper swimsuit Arjuna or something, I'll be able to die happily

@@valeviloria1460 what are you talking about. A lot of male servants do pretty well and get some real nice treatment, be it via buffs, their original release or by new stories released. Be it high or lower rarity You have Oddyseus, Romulus=Quirinus, Super Orion, Hajime Saito, Sherlock Holmes, Arthur Pendragon, Douman, Mandricardo, Chen Gong, Lu Bu Fengxiang, Hijikata Toshizo,Astolfo, Rama, Voyager, Karna, to name a few. They all are pretty good and can function pretty well in the role that they are supposed to go for. Xiang Yu is also one of those. Gameplay wise his only badly designed flaw was fixed now for 2 years, and now he works way better for that purpose alone

Fate doesn't want waifu variety, the franchise is built on Saber/Arthuria clones and to a lesser extent Rin clones

Fate doesn't turn men into women. It turns characters into waifus.

@@gaspardbonnehon8758 except for Red hare.

@@alejandropuma6734 You're delusional if you think Red Hare isn't the greatest waifu there is.

Gender bent is only done from male to female. There's just a big array of those examples, but you just wing it overtime

Well, that would be COOOOOOL, but I doubt he's gonna make a short about him any time soon, especially since devs forgot about him. Fr, what a fcking shame. Really amazing chaotic-evil character.

He could do a double feature with Saber and Caster forms of Gilles

@@card9247 I do think one of the most interesting bits of Heroic Spirit lore is how you summon kind of an aspect of the person - like child-killer Gilles de Raye and devoted soldier Gilles de Raye seem like completely different people

@@maduinargentus5878 it's mostly of cases that have been ingrained in history and affect people's perspectives that allow that. This applies to a lot of servants (bar their seasonal variations) that have this nice bits of duality on the character or more information about how they truly are. Diarmuid, Lancelot, Heracles, Jack the Ripper, Gilles, to name a few

That's why she had Alter version, I guess 🤔

Somehow her Brutal commander and fanatical believer manifested in the Summer version gag character where she shoot dolphins

Or the insanity part, which is how we call hearing voices, if we're not religious.

Archer or Summer Jeane is a lot more violent compared to her saintly Ruler self

@@MadHermit95 its probably just the summer heat getting to her

In this case, not really. She debuted in Apocrypha, in which something interferes with her summoning, so her mind has to merge with a living person and temporarly take over their body, and they've reused the same design since then. The body we see is that of a french woman who was deemed a suitable host, not an actual Servant vessel. We see her in a flashback in Fate/Zero and she looks fairly close to that, but logically, that should be the historical Jeanne and not the Heroic Spirit Jeanne, so it seems like the writers just wanted her to look like that anyway.

Yeah, and Vlad the third is a strong example too. He really don’t want to be Dracula. But the myth is tied with his name making his servant version a vampire.

@@Suesserto only as a berserker as a lancer he is completely human

​@@michaeldaniels642 He's a lancer in Apocrypha, too. They made him a Berserker in FGO just to further differentiate the two Vlads.

@@TheBonkleFox but, as a Lancer Legend of Dracula isn't active unless he chooses to use it which he'd only do if forces. As a Berserker Legend of Dracula is always active.

And the banner also being a sort of spear, that she is fully adept in using. Showcasing that she is both a capable and brutal warrior in addition to a fervent patriot and believer.

@@trla6505 i actually really liked how they animated that detail. As a woman and a commoner (even if she was considered to be a holy maiden), she wouldn't have had much opportunity to learn proper blade techniques. She would have only learned enough to survive as an average person on a battlefield, making up for lack of learned technique in favor of fervent aggression. So this is a detail the anime went into that I was pleasantly surprised by. They, of course, don't really have a way to show this in the stylized mobile game.

​@kattz9051 yeah, the only time she ever uses her sword is when she activates her Suicide NP

Canons are awesome

Jeanne is by no means "good". She's neutral. She follows what she is meant to. The assassinof black must die & the only way to do that is to destroy the souls of children? She WILL destroy the souls of children. She's not "good" she's unshakable from her cause & her holy maiden image makes her *look* good

They do give her one with Sieg but it's kinda complicated because Jeanne is made more human by Laeticia (her vessel) & feels emotions that she hadn't before, like actual affection & love. She's so fucked up that she thought that it MUST be Laeticia who's in love with Sieg & not her because she's simply a vessel for God's will

Fun fact: Sieg as an homunculus had a similar life to Jeanne if you think about it, i know nobody liked him but those little details are a nice touch-

Well there were scenes where both the servant and the person were talking to each other. They looked quite similar. One of the main things servants look for when possessing individuals is physical similarity so yes Jeanne does look like the ruler version.

This overviews I believe are more about the design, rather than the lore. Which is a shame, since a lot times, the lore behind them justifies the design. Andersen and Edison (to a certain extent) are completely explained and grounded on Fate's rules about heroic spirits

NO SHES A TOMBOY I DONT CARE IF ITS NOT HISTORICALLY ACCURATE, YOU WILL NOT TAKE AWAY MY KNIGHTLY TOMBOT GF

" She just cut her hair short and wore armor for battle, but in all other areas she was very girly. " Well having short hair and wearing male clothes is being tomboyish, i believe even Gilles de Rais used that adjective to describe her during her time in Orléans. Then again every little fact like this may or may not have been distorted, ultimately it's not really important. The important part is remembering her for who she was and what she represents.

Okay the Ivan the terrible got lore reasons, well, Story reasons with having to take demon blood to survive the fridgit winters

Ivan the Terrible is peak character design

The monster servants are fucking lit Like who wouldn't want a goddamn Trex waifu

@@hairglowingkyle4572 I need some further explanation on the Trex part 💀

@@RL-DarkSpark kijyo koyo, basically shes a spirit of sorts who found what she thought was a dragon skull and possessed it iirc, but it's actually a trex and she's hype af

He never implied she wasn't a woman. The "official" reason for her execution was heresy, the final act that made them go through with it being her refusal to dress in traditional women's clothing, so it's definitely a major reason, besides the whole "it was really a political move to destroy French morale and legitimacy" thing.

@@christineboari131 she did this because she was afraid of being raped if she had to changes her clothes. Even more with the English telling her that they will make her free if she comply with them. Something that she didn't do since she was following god order to protect France. If she couldn't be sent back in France in a coven to become a sister she won't comply with them. Se kept the same clothes from when she was taken to when she got burn

never said she was trans, keep up

consume media critically. Don't go into a tirade the instance a word triggers you

bruh, wtf

Nonono. The murder child. Ylgr.

I hope he reviews Fire Emblem characters in general

@@Adrian-zs3ol hes gonna destroy female byleth

@@moox001 I like female Byleth’s design 🙂

@@dreamer9398 I do too but that don't mean skyen will 💀

Astolfo is a French playboy so that tracks. Also he has the Monster can

Astolfo canonically was very attractive, and also canonically wore typically feminine clothing to help on of the other Paladin's keep a hold on their sanity. Ironic, given that Astolfo themself does not have a grip on their own sanity.

@@alchemysaga3745 Traded said sanity during a trip to the moon.

@@alchemysaga3745 he became a Ho for is Bro, true heroism right there

@@MadHermit95 funnily enough Astolfo is not French. But in the story he's an English Prince.

jailed for more than a year and put on trial for charges including heresy, witchcraft and violating divine law for dressing like a man. Like how daft can you be?

I mean, we did do that, it’s what all God fearing European nations did, cause EVERYONE at that time were numptys 😂

Because they are still doing that today but with trans people

He needs the subscribers from the insecure

It's funny cause Napoleon's height is the INVERSE of how history portrays him lmao. But that's also the heavy English influence coming into play, where he's portrayed as a monster on par with Hitler or Genghis Khan when in reality he was a good leader who, compared to nearly every other conqueror in history, treated his conquered people well. Fate actually reflects this with his Man's Man mentality and his friendly demeanor. He treats people well, and is a good person. A warrior and a bit of a misogynist, true to life there, but a decent person.

Jalter is not evil

He isn't saying Jeanne is trans, just that the UK is transphobic.

@@christineboari131 ah ok 👌

Oh no ....i think he should wait until there's an avenger Version of boudica or the review will be very negative 😂

@@steffy2 The worst part is that I get what they were going for. They just did it in the most japanese gacha way possible.

he would go full avenger if he ever looks up her interlude chapter. I'll never forgive fate for that rape joke. Romani was on thin ice after that

@@cloudsin8748 I am not aware of that. Is it off-limits to explain on KZfaq? Edit: never mind, I looked it up

My favorite part is that, in the Táin Bó Cúailnge, his character design is so over the top he could have passed as an anime character. He had tricolored hair and multiple pupils, for example.

Fun fact most of the fate Celtic Servents wear skin-tight body suits is because Celtics supposedly fought bare ass naked, so they use the bodysuits as a kind of cheat.

@@raptorblader Then you have Boudicca, who is just in some weird underwear.

@@raptorblader Always a fun time when the Fate design is less horny than the historical one.

@@raptorbladerso uh... Scathach is oh no...

This is nothing. It only get worse... Or better?

*G O O D*

It confuses me, I genuinely don't understand the appeal of it?

@@Jormyyy The Lore. Servants, aka historical figures and legends are just one part of THE lore of Fate. Fate universe is very complicated. It's better not to associate these characters with irl people, but rather just totally different characters that just happen to share the name.

@@Jormyyy Fate is just a part of the Type Moon universe. You may like other IPs . But Fat is definitely their Money Cow, yea

God no, give me theatrical excess any day of the week

ehhh don't give them too much credit. You got to remember that Fate origingally was a visual novel, so the reason most of the characters are hot girls is because...thats attractive for a visual novel. not really looking into a character's most popular depictions.

Jeanne is also one of the few characters that they portrayed almost entirely accurately visually. She's been descibed as "well-endowed" by historical records and Fate has even brought this up. Granted she definitely wasnt Anime Titties big, but the armor, flag, sword, leader personality, and maid thing they really lean into the idea of Joan of Arc, or Jeanne as they choose to refer to her.

Yes, a servant is basically a version of a person that people remembered or think what that person is. The servant is also granted powers from legends that might be true or made up.

@@stevenhedge2850 And from the original VN that only includes 8 historical characters, with only 3 being females. Your argument doesn't mean much. Fate does a good job usually both in terms of making characters look like how people view them and making them look appealing.

I wouldn't consider her as trans per se, Da Vinci is more similar to Nemo. She and the original da Vinci are different people. Yes, the original da Vinci is an homosexual male. Yet, Fate Da vinci (s) are more like self awareness dolls/puppets/beings, each one of them with their own ego, but with colective info that share between them. Da Vinci the woman is a copy molded as Gioconda in order to stay on chaldea, While the girl is the Gran Cavallo molded as a little girl.

@@spiralgodking9877 I love both as well, I forgot about the fact that in drifters if someone comments how she isn't very feminine she goes into a fit of rage.

@@spiralgodking9877 lol so true I didn't even realize!

@@jordanpickering6912 yeah and the Da Vinci being a chick, cuz even though the Mona Lisa was not important for him, it is popular enough that Fate Da Vinci liked it so much as to become her.

I think the greatest example for this is Salieri, dudes literally based on people thinking he killed Mozart

Jeanne is an exception. In Apocrypha, her first appearance, she takes control of someone's body instead of being properly summoned, and they kept the same design since then.

As a Welshman, 100%

Haters gonna hate 👌😂

Salty we used to rule you

@@Thereisanalienpresenceonearth I feel that's ultimately the sole reason why anyone hates the English: not because they're truly detestable but because they managed significantly more in the most ostentatious way possible, not least to mention they ruled their colonies much better to a point the ostensible compliment, "[the British] created the most independence days," really is quite an impressive feat. Having looked at it objectively, everyone ragging on the Angles just seems to be jealous.

IIRC FATE is a porn because Kinoko Nasu got told "you can't release a pc visual novel without sex scenes" by the publishers

@@maduinargentus5878 and yet they still have more sensible designs then fgo lmao

@@maduinargentus5878 that's roughly what I'd heard as well. That makes sense, cuz those kinds of scenes are so badly written overall lol

@@maduinargentus5878 yup, VN were almost exclusively seen as porn games back then, the perception and variety has gotten a lot better as time progresses.

The UK has more trans people than 90% of the worlds country’s. It’s the progressive changes that has ruined its traditionalism and sanity.

Yeah especially the mechas.

The stories behind the mecha gods actually made sense.

It's accurate in that it's in line with other famous depictions of the person. Accurate to the "character" she became, not the person she was.

It's accurate because the inaccuracy is based on the image that she was turned into in the real world, which has long since suppressed the reality of who she was.

It's accurate because of how Fate works. Jeanne had short dark hair irl, but she's often depicted in art as a beautiful, feminine woman with flowing blonde hair, & Fate Jeanne mimics that perfectly. The long blonde hair Jeanne became public perception of what Jeanne looked like, & perception is reality I Fate

@@finnyuk4906 Accurate as in the UK is hella transphobic. Which isn’t good.

But that was 700 years ago, so not really a defining feature of England at the time

@@dionemoolman how is the uk hella transphobic

@@Thereisanalienpresenceonearth Compared to the rest of western Europe the UK is seriously behind. Last year a major LGBT organisation made a report criticising four European nations for their legal and social prejudice, and one of the four was the UK due to how transphobic much of the government and the population is. And for an example, recently the UK changed their proposed ban on conversion therapy to not include trans conversion therapy.

@@dionemoolman then why does the uk have the highest number of lgbt members of parliament in the world, I’m afraid we’re quite ahead in that regard 😏

Or make a male character in a side team inspired by gender-bending myths and legends who also starts the show as the comic relief. Granted, this is from a show where 90% of the appeal is cool character designs and watching it *completely* unironically gets harder and harder over time, but can't exactly *not* give them props for having a cast based on genderbent myths.

Only the ancient English?

She’s frunch tho😑

Because perception is reality in Fate. Common perception of Jeanne is the pale, blonde beauty, so that's what she became as a servant

@@Fanimati0n then why is Jack the Ripper a small anime girl if that's so

Please don't project onto me, it is quite unpleasant.

even if there are flaws. Why do anyone needs to hate it, hate is quite a serious attitude. Tbh I only watched two fate animes and I found some quite absurd interpretation they put on Chinese historic characters (I’m Chinese) in the FGO. But why do I hate them, I simply do not care. Why would you even go ahead try to pretend you know what Skyen thinks. He already said everything what he thinks in the video, and you just pretended to be smart and that is too much ego tbh

if you’re a fate fan and can’t take a video that is barely even making fun of the character, you’re definitely 12 man 🤨

@@I_Made_it_Up I know it isn't but it's funny within the context of the video?

@@I_Made_it_Up I mean, historically it's probably accurate so?

@@I_Made_it_Up I mean, ancient Greece was pretty chill with trans people I think

@@I_Made_it_Up terf island being okay with trans people. lol like the English literally imported transphobia to the rest of the world.

Do you know the backsound he used? Can you tell me please?