Jeep Cherokee: Rear Disc Brake Swap - KJ/ZJ No Welding; Bolt-on Conversion ['91-'01 XJ]

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1991 - 2001 Jeep Cherokee XJ. How to actually Disc Brake swap a Chrysler 8.25 Rear Axle. Here, the process shall be documented in a valiant effort to display what it's actually like, things that actually happen, and how much time and money it actually cost.
1990 - 2001 Cherokees and Comanches with a Dana 35 can use Grand Cherokee ZJ (1993 - 1998) parts instead of Jeep Liberty (2003 - 2007) parts for the same result, which will also be a bolt-on conversion with no welding required.
1984 - 1989 Cherokees and Comanches with a Dana 44 or a non-c-clip Dana 35: the process is different but overall similar. Check out Nick’s video on his 1989 XJ: • 89 Cherokee Dana 35/44...
Which Rear Axle do you have?: • How to Identify Which ...
What is Brake Bias and why is it important?: • Why are Front Brakes L...
Why bigger brakes won’t actually stop your car faster: • Why Big Brakes Won't S...
Thanks to Bryant for his knowledge and assistance on this project: / @xj_overlander
YOU WILL REQUIRE:
-03-07 KJ Backing Plates
-03-07 KJ Backing Plate to Axle mounting studs
-03-07 KJ Parking Brake shoes and hardware (new)
-03-07 KJ Rear Brake Rotors & Pads (new)
-03-07 KJ Rear Calipers & Banjo bolts (new)
-99-04 WJ Rear Rubber brake lines
-84-01 XJ Dana 30 wheel studs (x10)
-93-98 ZJ Proportioning Valve Spring
-97-01 Disc Brake compatible Parking Brake Cables
-84-01 Pre-Flared Brake Lines 12” & 40”
-97-01 XJ Front Parking Brake Cable & Equalizer
-91-04 XJ Rear Axle Wheel Bearing TIMKEN 6408
-91-04 XJ Rear Axle Wheel Seal TIMKEN 8835S
-97-07 XJ Differential Center pin bolt
-91-07 XJ Differential Cover Gasket
-Differential Fluid
-Wheel Bearing Puller 57129 (Autozone)
This project cost me a grand total of $568.17 for everything. However, on a budget, I could have done it for $304.93. Either way, a lot cheaper than the $857.53 for a “kit”, and a lot more expensive than about $150 to completely overhaul the existing drum brakes.
TO THE JUNKYARD:
-Sockets 10mm to 15mm
-14mm Deep Socket
-8mm Ratchet Wrench
-Needle-nose pliers
-Hammer
-Prybar/ Large Screwdriver
-Something to cut parking brake cables with, because you ain’t getting them off.
-A Crescent Wrench, because the Proportioning valve caps seem to vary in size from 13/16” to 3/4”
-Jack/ stands
-A drain pan (?)
PART LINKS
-KJ Rear Rotors: www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/j...
-KJ Rear Brake Pads: www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/j...
-KJ Rear Calipers: www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/j...
-Powerstop Caliper Compatible Banjo Bolts: rb.gy/gn94k
-KJ Parking Brake Shoes: www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/j...
-KJ Parking Brake Hardware Kit: www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/j...
-Parking Brake Equalizer: www.amazon.com/dp/B07GNKMNGP?...
-97-01 XJ Rear Disc Swap Parking Brake Cables: www.quadratec.com/p/crown-aut...
-Front Parking Brake Cable:
www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/j...
-Rear Axle Wheel Bearings: www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/j...
-Rear Axle Seals: www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/j...
-Dana 30 Lug Studs: www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo....
-WJ Rear Left Brake Hose: www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo....
-WJ Rear Right Brake Hose: www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo....
-Chrysler 8.25 Center Pin Bolt: rb.gy/v5888
Keep the drums instead: www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo....
Can’t Stop: • Punch Deck - I Can't Stop
Offworld: • HurricaneTurtle - Offw...
Dominant: • Punch Deck - Dominant
00:00 The Intro
00:04 The Premise
03:50 Phase 1: Find the Parts
07:15 Phase 2: Operation Begins
07:55 Differential Teardown
09:17 Lug Nut Studs
10:31 Remove Brake Lines
11:05 Remove Drum Brake
12:07 Backing Plate Studs
13:11 Wheel Bearing
16:16 Backing Plate Install
17:07 Parking Brake Shoes & Hardware
21:39 Axle Shaft Install
24:21 Differential Assembly
29:16 Brake Rotor & Parking Brake Adjust
30:37 Brake Caliper
32:42 Custom Brake Lines
34:36 Differential Cover and Fluid
35:29 Proportioning Valve
36:50 The Master Cylinder
39:36 Parking Brake Cables
45:06 Routing Rundown
47:04 Initial Test
50:04 Final Thoughts

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@Jayman0057 Жыл бұрын

Acoustic power tools only

@christianmarchan6577 10 ай бұрын

You’re literally the only guy who makes in deep detail videos that we can follow thank you men God bless you

@lwil6393 6 ай бұрын

Basic tip: Pack the back side of the seal with grease to keep spring from jumping out of the seal when you drive the seal in, it happens.

@SamVeneman Жыл бұрын

I've already done this to my XJ. I just came to watch cause you're videos are entertaining AF. thanks man

@WAEMIDIV Жыл бұрын

What'd you think of the swap, do you have a lifted/ modded XJ?

@SamVeneman Жыл бұрын

@@WAEMIDIV The swap gives me peace of mind for future maintenance. I didn't notice "night and day" difference of breaking but she still stops. I have a 4.5" lift with big ol Goodyear Duratrac 33s and a buncha mod weight on the whole rig. and to be fully honest, I haven't finished the parking brake because of the same problems you were facing. I'm thankful you took it to the full resolution so I can benefit from your knowledge!

@WAEMIDIV Жыл бұрын

@SamVeneman yes the annoying adjusters were not cooperating with me at all. I eventually just did it with the tires on and Jeep on the ground. Drove around and briefly smelled burning brake shoe, but after the initial surface of material wore off it's been fine. The parking brake lever certainly feels different too

@crowbarz Жыл бұрын

i’ve literally just started trying to research this exact topic, and you drop this right now. what a man

@WAEMIDIV Жыл бұрын

Just in time!

@nothsa1107 Жыл бұрын

"Im not that into the modification stuff." Proceeds to mention he is 4wd swapping his 2wd. LOL. Awesome video, can't wait for the 4x4 swap.

@WAEMIDIV Жыл бұрын

See, I look at the 4wd Swap as "changing factory options" I, going into it, know preemptively that all of the 4wd stuff will fit and bolt right on to a 2wd XJ, because the XJ was obviously offered with factory 4wd. When it comes to something like the disc brakes, the XJ never had them, and therefore there is no such thing as "XJ rear disc brake parts", and we hence need to source them from other vehicles, and as a result some things might just not work (Ford Explorer Parking Brake Cables)

@nothsa1107 Жыл бұрын

@@WAEMIDIV valid point, the disks were never factory. Never realized that you haven't done many modifications, just adding those rare factory options. Pretty cool.

@gundude82 Жыл бұрын

Somehow between replacing drum brake pads and doing this swap, this seems like the less complicated option

@lilbigfoot12 Жыл бұрын

Love the videos, keep them coming. They have given me tons of info for working on my 01 xj that I just got all the parts to do this exact swap to. I would've loved to have your walk through when researching this swap but glad I have it now.

@joshreynolds1412 2 ай бұрын

Excellent video!

@troyschonke6304 2 ай бұрын

Well done video sir...

@clevelandcarpenter8535 Жыл бұрын

Great video as always!

@hannahvaipulu3631 8 ай бұрын

Thank you for service

@marshalljvanderhoofphoto 6 ай бұрын

The detail is awesome! Thank you so much for taking the time to make this!

@StandAloneAdventures 3 ай бұрын

By far the BEST Video on this conversion out here. I’ve already done this conversion on my 99 with 2004 Liberty parts but wish like hell I would’ve found this video before hand, this is what how to videos should look like, AWESOME JOB!!!

@bunnybono1256 Жыл бұрын

Thank you for putting the links for the parts that’s is absolutely heavenly

@jamesloughran7278 10 ай бұрын

Thanks for the video , very informative.

@BBBILLY86 3 ай бұрын

Never thought of the reverse braking advantage of disk brakes. Good for the boat launch.

@jorge5667 10 ай бұрын

I had the axle rebuilt with an LSD and decided it would be a good time to add the disc brakes. I just finished my conversion following this vid. It went perfectly. Thank you so much for this.

@WAEMIDIV 10 ай бұрын

How much did a rebuild cost you? Including the LSD install

@jorge5667 10 ай бұрын

@@WAEMIDIV parts and labor was $1250. I bought the parts and brought them in.

@SwiftyShammy 2 ай бұрын

The BEST video I have found on this subject. Thank you!!

@oldxj 9 ай бұрын

Thanks for the tip on parking brake cables. Looks like Crown makes them for my 93 as well. I’ve been looking for something to use since I made the swap.

@sirthrival4601 Жыл бұрын

I haven't finished this video yet, but I am super excited to watch it! I did this swap on my lifted xj and I watched a lot of videos. The most difficult part was figuring out the soft line, the ZJ soft line was too short, so I ended up using the standard front brake lines, and then drilling and tapping a hole. No welding required, and all stock, replaceable parts! :D

@Stars11222 Жыл бұрын

commenting to hopefully kick engagement up and get this to the top of the lists!

@alfonsojon1997 11 ай бұрын

Dude I am appreciative that I own an XJ at the same time you do. Ive been putting this off because nobodys demonstrated a true bolt on upgrade. Thanks a ton!

@WAEMIDIV 11 ай бұрын

heya you saved me in Mississippi!

@deadspeed6679 5 ай бұрын

I followed this step by step and now my XJ can now drive vertically up walls.. 🙏🏽 you made this easy

@JBOBee-md7vc Ай бұрын

The iron man joke goes hard 😂

@fabuloussnow Жыл бұрын

Nice job!

@Vickyvee97 10 ай бұрын

Really good video on it! I've been wanting to do a Disc swap on my 99 XJ since owning a loving my old 99 S-10 blazer's rear disc brakes. Disc brake are more sure footed when you step on the brake.

@joe7497 Жыл бұрын

Good tip for cutting cables, I had to abandon a 8.25 from a junkyard because I couldn't get them loose from the backing plate.

@mnvjim7900 5 ай бұрын

Awesome video, I’ve seen a lot of videos on this and you definitely have the best one. Definitely gives me more confidence on going for it. Another plus about this swap, is that if you break a axel or bust a c-clip the disk breaks will prevent the axel and wheel from coming out. You will be able to limp it home at least.

@Steinerrides Жыл бұрын

I've been meaning to get around to this swap as I tow a lot with my jeep. Maybe this video will finally make me do it lol. Thanks.

@WAEMIDIV Жыл бұрын

Yes, for towing I bet this would actually help quite a bit!

@angelopetraglia8326 10 ай бұрын

Very nice clear and comprehensive video. After watching your video, this project seems like a doable upgrade. I completely understand what you mean about experts on the internet. I spent 4 hours modding WJ control arms and finally gave up. I ended up just replacing the bushings in my original control arms.

@WAEMIDIV 10 ай бұрын

What went wrong with the WJ arms? I've heard they're apparently a direct bolt on

@angelopetraglia8326 10 ай бұрын

@@WAEMIDIV I got new Moogs which may have been part of the problem. They were just a little more expensive than pulling used from a yard and replacing the bushings. I completely rebuilt my front axle/suspension and didn’t want to put anything old back on. For the uppers I had to trim 3” forward of the underside and probably trimmed 1/3 of the tube on the outside facing side and 1/4 on the inner side. This was for proper drop because there is interference from the pinch weld. I could have bent the pinch welds out of the way but could not avoid the side cuts For the lowers I had to grind the bushings down around 1/8” on both sides so the arms would fit (front and rear). Then I had to round out the rear upper so it would not contact the firewall. Last I needed to clearance the upper part of the front to allow the axle to roll enough so the upper arms holes would line up. I gave up before clearancing the upper part of the lowers arms. If I can find your email I’ll send you some pictures of what they looked like. Probably even with all the cutting they would have been stronger than the C-channels from the XJ. It was hot and I had spent 6 hours fighting the new arms. I had to get the truck back on the road and I had the new bushings for the originals so that was the end. I may revisit because I do have to fix my rear main seal. (Great video of that by the way!)

@WAEMIDIV 10 ай бұрын

@angelopetraglia8326 well that certainly sounds like a not-bolt-on upgrade. I will note this

@javierrusso375 8 ай бұрын

I have a 2001 XJ and thank gawd I found your video. I was sweating bullets because my welding skills absolutely suck. I'm so bad that my welds look like someone dripped molten metal pellets on to the joint. I'm so bad that I could burn a hole in a steel I-beam. But I digress, thanks again. I'll be playing this while I do the swap this weekend. And I'm subscribing.

@WAEMIDIV 8 ай бұрын

yep I've never welded a thing in my life, so you're already better at it than me

@ironworker5792 4 ай бұрын

Spent 20 years living in Wisconsin, owned two Cherokees, might of passed you on freeway? Safest ride when you have 2 feet of snow and an hour drive to work. Green Bay area. Miss the Spotted Cow beer, you can have the cheese. Excellent as always, thank you! - Edited

@WAEMIDIV 4 ай бұрын

I had an uncle who lived in GB, but I haven't been up there in years. I'm glad you've escaped cheese land

@picflight Жыл бұрын

Thumbs up for the 2400 baud music.

@danhambrick6331 Жыл бұрын

Nicely done Waemid.👌That 4 door sure did smoke you 😂😂😂😂

@WAEMIDIV Жыл бұрын

I was in disbelief! It was like a 93 or something, I thought they didn't have a chance. Put me in my place!

@Deadbuck73 5 ай бұрын

Pretty sure I’m in the don’t need to category but it definitely looks like a great project.

@epik_robie1709 Жыл бұрын

Really love this style of video with the interjected jokes, would love to see this with other XJ topics or even a D44 swap into an MJ!

@WAEMIDIV Жыл бұрын

WOAH woah woah a Dana 44 swap?? Calm down there guy, calm down! first I gotta get 35s!

@gregj.gotham4402 8 ай бұрын

Love the ford screw up old internet modem sound. Got ya big time.

@quadracerlt250 5 ай бұрын

QUESTION: Why are longer wheel studs required? Great Video!

@WAEMIDIV 5 ай бұрын

The disc rotor is thicker than the face of the drum

@tylerrayburn6356 Ай бұрын

Man, this video is awesome. You really kept my attention throughout the whole video with your commentary. I do have a question though. If I didn’t feel like messing with the parking brake, could I just leave that all not hooked up? Also, if I did that, what could I eliminate from the liberty parts list. Hopefully you see this and can answer. Thanks!

@WAEMIDIV Ай бұрын

yeah if you don't want a parking brake all together, you can just remove the cables and all the hardware and brake shoes. The disc brakes work entirely independently from the parking brake, everything will work

@gryffydd42 Жыл бұрын

I did this conversion to my 93 4 door xj with 4wd, and thought I’d share some differences. I used Powerstop calipers , but also brake shoes and slotted/drilled rotors from them. I used ZJ rubber hoses to connect to Stock brake hard lines (bent them to needed position and they are in decent shape). The hoses had an L bracket- we widened the hole, cut part of bracket off and mounted it on one of the leaf spring bolts. Works beautifully. I also used Crown disc brake cables. Point to note- 95 and older had brake lever in center, and the parking brake cables are equal length, but crown had disc cables for this, as well as 97-01. The 94 and older models have a single diaphragm brake booster. But the double diaphragm booster from 95-96 is drop in fit for 93, so I swapped that in + went to newer style reservoir. I had to grab brake to proportioning from a ZJ and bent them slightly, but no complications. My observations- going to read disc made a HUGE difference on overall braking for me. Much faster and stronger. I also live in greater Seattle area where rain is common, and these make big difference braking in rain. I almost had accident - the disc brakes prevented that. If I had had drum brake I likely would have rear ended the car. I installed a g2 diff cover on my 8.25. Ir has drain drain plug, max level plug, and fill plug. When filling, you have added enough oil when it just starts to drip from max level, then put plugs in. Makes like much easier + plugs have magnets to grab metal particles. The lube locker is the bomb, so glad I converted to it

@WAEMIDIV Жыл бұрын

I bet you also saw better braking moreso due to the diaphragm upgrade, those older brake boosters are actually known to be terrible, there was a recall for them and a highly recommended swap for the pre 95 guys. My MJ's brakes are literally entirely brand new but they always sucked in comparison to the 01XJ, I bet that diaphragm is why. Never bothered me though because Renix's engine brake is alot more effective and I hardly use the brakes so you knocked out a lot of weak points at the same time, sounds like a good ✅️

@gryffydd42 Жыл бұрын

@@WAEMIDIV I didn’t do the brake booster swap at same time. The disc brake conversion ran late , so booster and newer reservoir didn’t get swapped for a week (the zj prop valve was done however). Even without the diaphragm & reservoir swap, there was significant improvement on braking. The friend helping me had thought conversion was not really worth it , but when he test drove it and felt difference, he was stunned and changed to believing it was well worth it. He wants to do this for his daughters 91 now. :) I haven’t worked on remix era xj or mj, but it’s interesting to hear the engine braking is much better. I did run into someone with an AMC era xj, and it was fun to compare differences.

@davidchappelle6480 7 ай бұрын

You could use metal hose clamps and a piece of rubber hose to clamp them brake lines to the axle tubes .. YW ! 😁 That looks like Summerfield?

@jessiegibson2881 4 ай бұрын

With Drum brakes, if you break an axle, spider gears, etc., the axles CAN and WILL come out! Disc brakes, same situation, the calipers WILL hold the axles in ;-)

@hannahvaipulu3631 8 ай бұрын

Hey the Delwalt ratchet 3/8 drive has two versions, I am not sure which one your using, but one of them can't handle the hammer.

@LepecheurDesigns 10 ай бұрын

I'm noticing the coil over shocks you got there, are those the MONROE 58594? How do they perform, you like em?

@WAEMIDIV 10 ай бұрын

Yes, they are the Monroe shocks I got them from RockAuto. I got them to help out the leaf springs because I carry a lot of heavy loads all over the place all the time, and they work very well. They stopped the leafs from sagging, and actually smoothed out the back end too, it almost feels like it's a ZJ with rear coils. The only drawback I've found is they lift the back about 2" when unloaded. But I like them very much

@Trumpetmac 10 ай бұрын

Great video, what kind of shocks are you using?

@WAEMIDIV 10 ай бұрын

They are load-adjusting shocks, designed to help out the leaf springs when carrying extra weight. They work impressively well, and did help out the sagging leafs, but just kinda delayed the inevitable and I need new leafs now anyway. But they're nice shocks, Monroe sells them on Rockauto

@Trumpetmac 10 ай бұрын

@@WAEMIDIV Thanks, I'm gonna get these since my leaf are sagging, until I can swap them out! Keep us the videos. Also I just finished my 2WD to 4WD Conversion by watching your transmission videos great work!

@rodneyhoadley3167 3 ай бұрын

I have a 2001 wrangler with a Dana 35. Will this conversion work? Or if I upgrade to a Dana 44 what would I use?

@abrahambarkhordar5572 13 күн бұрын

hi what parking brake cable would you recommend for 1989? I would order teraflex but I need it for tomorrow. please help!

@iamdgw 11 ай бұрын

You have links for everything new except the ZJ proportioning valve parts - are those junkyard only? I'm having a hard time finding online.

@WAEMIDIV 11 ай бұрын

Yes, I was only able to find them used. You'll have to find a ZJ being parted out somewhere

@grits_taste_good415 Жыл бұрын

You should do a poll on where your audience is within the US. You doubted we'd have to deal with as much rust as you have to, but I'm in Minnesota... It writes itself

@WAEMIDIV Жыл бұрын

I know they can get a lot worse, I've seen a leaf shackle pressed up against the spare tire before with more of the floor missing than was left. I think with a rusty XJ, it's within the boundaries of expectations to plan for it. My old silver one was alot worse than this white one is, and I learned watching videos online where nothing ever goes wrong, to treat rust like an entitled customer, and give it what it wants so it goes away. My MJ is about to split in half come the next few potholes, the entire bottom-facing surface of the frame is completely gone under the cab, and in my last MJ video we saw I had to cut, press, pound and break all sorts of bolts to get them out. I know rust. And so do you. PB and a torch are your best friends up there in the midwest.

@blakebutner5375 4 ай бұрын

Did you run into one parking brake cable being too long?

@capitaldar01 5 ай бұрын

You use the old XJ axle shafts right? I've got limited slip on my 8.25 XJ

@WAEMIDIV 5 ай бұрын

Yes, the only reason we remove the axle shafts is to fit the new backing plate behind them, and punch out the wheel studs

@jasonlessard2373 8 ай бұрын

A couple things…. First, coming from a guy that spent many years doing brakes professionally, good job. Next, although I can’t remember ever having to replace the parking brake on a liberty, it looked like that white spring on top was rubbing on the lever. Maybe upside down on wrong side. I saw that’s how it came off but if years of experience taught me anything. It’s that just because someone else put on that way doesn’t make it right. Last it you put the cross pin back in the diff immediately after you pop the axles out, you’ll save yourself a tremendous amount of heartache messing around with spider gears.

@WAEMIDIV 8 ай бұрын

The thing is the KJ parking brakes are not mirrored, either side is identical, so there is no backwards/ inverted position for the spring. But it seems to work, I dunno

@jasonlessard2373 8 ай бұрын

@@WAEMIDIV it seemed to be made to go around the linkage but it curved right up on it. It didn’t inhibit the function. So I guess run it. Glad to see you addressed the proportioning valve. Most people doing swaps like this have no idea.

@KyleSVT Жыл бұрын

That old white XJ was quick! LOL

@WAEMIDIV Жыл бұрын

It had dual exhaust pipes on it, so it's clearly got some mods! Whatever they are I want em! It was a 1991-1993, which are known to be the lightest of the Cherokees (Thinner engine block than Renix, less OBD-II stuff than 96+) but that was too epic to just be lighter I've been humiliated lol

@KyleSVT Жыл бұрын

@@WAEMIDIVYea that was sick!

@Eri-Lan Жыл бұрын

I have been thinking about making the conversation, but I have the problem of not wanting to lose the ABS and I can't seem to find info on how to do the conversion without losing ABS. As soon as my drums on the non-ABS model go bad, I will do the swap.

@WAEMIDIV Жыл бұрын

I was curious about ABS also, and I'm confident it's possible. The Liberty has the same rear axle and uses tone rings and speed sensors that should fit right on the XJ's axle, the problem would be in the electronics themselves. I'm not so certain a KJ ABS sensor would properly communicate with an XJ ABS module. I'm sure it could be done though, but I've never really bothered with XJ ABS because it never works anyway. Hardly any XJs even have it

@andrewneverkovec8318 2 ай бұрын

Did you apply thread locker to the outside of a fastened nut and bolt?

@WAEMIDIV 2 ай бұрын

no they were just on the end of the threads, with exposed threads behind them. Threadlocker went on the threads, not on the outside of the nut

@deanbarrett7180 5 ай бұрын

Never route your brake hoses away from the axle like this, period. On any vehicle or build, the hard line continues along the tube beyond the leaf spring, turns upwards, then connect to the hose that's bent back on itself. This is the difference between being a mechanic and thinking you are.

@erickjames4093 5 ай бұрын

What size socket did you use for the backing plate bolts

@WAEMIDIV 5 ай бұрын

The nuts on those bolts were somewhere around 1/2", but the bolts themselves are press fit - they don't have a hex head

@James-wo5nb Жыл бұрын

Bro question, is there any way to tell what transmission came with a Comanche from the vin number?

@WAEMIDIV Жыл бұрын

Yes there are VIN decoders out there. If you register it with ComancheClubForums they'll decode it for you and can tell which transmission it had

@garykarczewski6678 6 ай бұрын

Does the swap provide better rear braking compared to stock? I have hear mixed reviews that most rear disc brake kits are too small.

@WAEMIDIV 6 ай бұрын

"better" not really, because as I explained in the video, if the stock Drum brakes can already lock up the back wheels, then making them stronger doesn't help anything, it just makes it easier to skid tires. However, if you have a heavily modified vehicle (or tow things) and the drums cannot lock up the back wheels anymore, then a disc brake swap would definitely help.

@garykarczewski6678 6 ай бұрын

I agree especially if you have very heavy large tires say over 32" and over 60 wide! I found that having really really large tires for a Cherokee which is both a daily driver, camping vehicle, and errand runner for Home Depot don't provide any benefit other than ones opinon on how it looks. The poor gas mileage, noise, excessive wear on drive line including brakes just doesn't make too much sense to me. Now if you are dedicating it for a specific use like rock crawling well that is a different attribute. One thing with Drum brakes you have to tighten them up manually now and then. The emergency brake method sort of works but not as good as going to the back of the drum removing the rubber cover to the port to the tooth wheel to tight up the pads. . I found the I get the best performance out of them when tuning them up. The true test is when empty find a street and try to look up your brakes if you find the rears dont lock up with the fronts with good control then you need to snug them up as stated.

@ryansmith55 Жыл бұрын

16:38 did you really put the lock tight on last/ on the nuts in stead of the threads? 😅

@WAEMIDIV Жыл бұрын

The nuts were all loose, I put on locktite (which kinda got all over everything), then tightened them, then torqued them

@d.sm.4146 Жыл бұрын

I concur, ford engineering blunders are why I wont touch them with a 10' pole. Example; my father owned a ford tempo & mercury topaz. To replace the water pump you have remove the engine or cut a hole in the inner fender well.

@WAEMIDIV Жыл бұрын

I always say at my workplace we'd be out of business if not for Fords. Always coming in with broken shit, and always being a complete pain to fix

@Deadbuck73 5 ай бұрын

Wishing a Lego step! 🤣

@flamezr6870 5 ай бұрын

21:14 LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

@Robdutton91 Жыл бұрын

Why do you have springs over your shocks? Not seen that before

@WAEMIDIV Жыл бұрын

They are load-adjusting shocks, designed to help carry extra weight in the back. I use the Jeep to transport stuff all the time, and some brand new Leaf Springs from Dorman only lasted about a year before they were sagging, so I got these shocks to help the leafs out. They also make the back end feel more like it's got a coil spring suspension instead of leafs, they kinda smooth it out while also retaining ride height with the trunk loaded down

@Robdutton91 Жыл бұрын

@@WAEMIDIV that’s cool, didn’t know they were a thing. Thank you

@not_godlike6690 Жыл бұрын

Finished my 4x4 swap I got the harness on and my 4x4 lights don’t work still how do I fix?

@WAEMIDIV Жыл бұрын

That depends on an incredible multitude of things; what year, vehicle, engine, and harness you used, if the 4wd switch itself is bad, if you spliced or repinned or neither, and if your dashboard even has a bulb in the slot. I can't give you a fix based on the provided information. As far as I know you 4x4 swapped a 1928 Ford model T that has a 6.7L Powerstroke turbodiesel mated to a Chevy transmission and a Dodge transfer case, using bread bag ties for wiring and ratchet straps for a crossmember. I have no idea

@timothywilliams2021 2 ай бұрын

Next time paint the rotors red to match the calipers. 2X the stopping power with red disc's.

@TheHolan Жыл бұрын

i just wonder why the "TIMKEN" bearing has "KOYO" written on it. 😆

@philliprollman7421 Жыл бұрын

Is it necessary to change the bearing out for a 8.25? And do I need longer wheel studs?

@WAEMIDIV Жыл бұрын

You do not need the change the wheel bearings, just a "while you're there" thing you do need longer lug nut studs, because the face of the rotor is considerably thicker than the face of the drum. You lose a good amount of thread engagement and it needs to be made up for. This is why the front axle already has longer studs - because it also already has disc brakes

@philliprollman7421 Жыл бұрын

@@WAEMIDIV thanks i keep getting different answers about it.

@philliprollman7421 Жыл бұрын

I have steel wheels can I just keep my factory lug nuts and I been looking all over I can't find new jeep liberty backing plate studs and nuts

@WAEMIDIV Жыл бұрын

@philliprollman7421 I could never find the KJ Backing plate studs new either. They're a discontinued part and unless we find the exact measurement specifications for them, the only option is to source them from a KJ. However, you more than likely should be able to use the same studs from a ZJ, if you can find one of those any easier you need longer lug studs regardless of wheel type. We are changing the drum to a rotor, which is thicker, while keeping the same wheels. The thickness of the wheel does not change. The thickness of the brakes do - and by keeping the original lug studs, you lose about half of their thread engagement and thus risk the back wheels falling off

@philliprollman7421 Жыл бұрын

@WAEMID IV thanks buddy I appreciate the info just wanted to know before I do all this and get stuck.

@rc9266 10 ай бұрын

Nothing like cave man tools on break job... Good video the comedy was a bonus!!

@jackmosher7561 11 ай бұрын

IMPORTANT NOTE: The KJ Liberty backing plates shown in the video are MOPAR #52129177AD, which has been discontinued (and was $500 new!!). Good luck finding this part for sale anywhere- and a separate rear caliper carrier was never offered, as far as I can tell. Wanting to use all-new parts for my install, I purchased the Dorman 924-657 backing plate kit, and the PowerStop calipers shown in the video. The Dorman plates DO NOT INCLUDE the caliper carrier and integral parking brake support. Without this part, there is no way to mount a caliper to the plate, at all. If doing this swap, you MUST acquire the backing plate/caliper carrier assembly from a donor vehicle, fully intact. Lesson learned!

@WAEMIDIV 11 ай бұрын

Good information, I really wanted to do all new parts myself, but gave up after running into stuff like that. Another reason I typically don't do "mods" like this. I don't like having people rely on donor vehicles, but sometimes there's no other option. Thankfully the world has no shortage of scrapped KJs

@jackmosher7561 11 ай бұрын

@@WAEMIDIV Typical pitfalls of working on a 23-year-old car! Still, without a doubt, yours is the absolute best video on the topic. Thanks for the fantastic content :)

@FlintSteel260 3 ай бұрын

you could have just bought two of the same parking brake cables for the ford and it would have been fine

@jlb8696 5 ай бұрын

I do off road I like my drum specially go up the mountain you need handbrake or is your life you play with yes is get handbrake with a disc brake but not like the drum you not will capable to do 180 with wit dis break whit your handbrake I don't think so advantage and disadvantage is what you wanna to do with it

@emtjc8465 7 ай бұрын

while I appreciate the concept of no power tools or welders you really need to anchor those hard lines or else they are going to move around and eventually fatigue and break. Great walk through other then that.

@WAEMIDIV 7 ай бұрын

I have used the very professional method of wrapping zip ties around them in multiple spots, so they don't move at all in relation to the axle. I wish they had those protective casings around them like the stock lines do

@deadcell85 8 ай бұрын

Get a hearty deadblow hammer for knocking the beans out of your ratchet. It hurts a lot less when you miss and smack a knuckle. Not saying from experience or anything