She shouted exactly that! Immediately before Jeff got on

And “this is the worst thing that’s ever happened to me.” Wrong, David. This is the worst thing that’s ever happened to Jeff. This is the worst thing YOU’VE ever done, David. For me, this situation ties with when he covered up that his friend raped a girl and they had footage of the night it happened both before the assault and after when her friend was literally half supporting her weight to get her out of that room. Maiming someone and not taking accountability and not holding your friend accountable for emotionally/ psychologically maiming someone are both horrendous. Rape is emotional/ psychological maiming, btw. You’re never the same after. Life is still worth it and there’s resources but it’s hard.

David is distancing himself... Something murderers do...

I promise you that his lawyers have told him not to admit any direct liability. Whatever David says to the public, he's lawyering up like all get-out in the background.

Yes, David held a gun to Jeff's head, told him to get on the machine and that he would stop swinging the crane till he smashed his head in. You clearly have no idea what you are on about and as much as I dislike both, you clearly are jumping on the bandwagon. Your interpretation of the sentence is what doesn't seem right.

@@Clemenza18384 It's an honest deflection on David's part, even if he doesn't mean it to be. He hurt a man by doing something that, according to the victim, he was never supposed to do. He was the one in control. Even if it WAS an accident, he is absolutely legally culpable. If Jeff had died, it probably would have been a manslaughter charge.

exactly, you put it in words!! david was such a slimy bastard about it but I couldn’t articulate why

what the fuck? you are trying way too hard bro. I normally don't comment on David Dobrik slander, but the fact that people are dense enough to believe shit like "he's a cult leader" or "he's a sociopathic bastard" is so fucking absurd to me. The whole thing was an accident; they are grown adults and both of them made a stupid decision. It is so clearly an accident, and the fact that people don't see that simply because david dobrik didn't get injured blows my mind. Yeah, it sucks that Jeff got injured, but he is also at fault for trusting an uncertified 26 year old operating a crane. To make comments on how you think each of them are feeling is stupid, too. You have no idea what either of them are going through based off of a fucking youtube video, so don't make any implications there. Since we are making assumptions, though, I would say david has a right to feel distraught, as he was involved in (and partially responsible for) an accident that nearly killed his friend. To try and say that he is using Jeff's pain as an opportunity to look good is so cynical and pessimistic; quit trying to characterize someone based off of opinionated second and third-hand information, thinking you can "see right through him." Its not that deep and he's not that smart.

bbh

I had no idea it was a near death experience till this video, it makes what David's saying more ridiculous and gross, I can't believe he's trying to make it out that part of this was Jeff's fault

@@pattern8304 woah woah woah. Don’t try and act all smart over here while your play games meant for 10 year olds pal. Your whole existence is cringe

Lol that was pretty funny

I like that he didn’t hold that back or cut it out 🖤

I loved that 😂

Aye, my patterns of thought and ability to process changed in ways both subtle and fundamental after an accident a few years ago, and that's despite figuring it ranked it pretty minor in the broader scale of serious head injuries.

I've seen this happen to people in my life, too. This guy has to have worked really hard to get to where he is, not to mention lucked out even more.

Does this affect you for the rest of your life?

Yeah I understand that I’m going to be outnumbered in the comments, but David’s issue which I understand is that he was getting all the blame, and people were saying how it was his idea and David pushed it which he wanted to clear up, also in Jeff’s video he took out the best parts imo from David’s video

@@Theeeeea Are you Davids cable man?

@@_JK87 good one. No but I’m not even taking sides but people giving every ounce of blame and acting like Jeff didn’t delete the highest detailed parts out of his video is just annoying, like honestly just watch David’s video and then watch Jeff’s or whatever and you’ll see what I’m talking about

@@Theeeeea Jeff’s only mistake is letting someone irresponsable have control of his life (during the accident). Same mistake Corinna did since she also got on the rope. But when Jeff went on, David decided to take things further and swing Jeff dangerously fast. That is all David’s fault. 100%. Trying to put blame on Jeff is completely irrelevant.

@@marikadimeglio5810 I agree David took it too far and David said that, but people are acting as if David’s putting blame on Jeff which I find silly, David was right by saying they can’t communicate and I agree with some of the things Jeff said, but I really can’t bring my self to believe that Jeff has good intentions at all with this video

Yah they’ve been friends since vine days.

Some people are like that and usually show co-dependent behaviours. They attach themselves to charismatic people, ride their coat tails and "never" see anything wrong so they will defend until there's no way they can't not face it. Jason won't see anything wrong until it directly happens to him.

Jason already almost lost his ''job'' at David's, he's scared he'll have to work for real, and on his age, that will become almost impossible

I feel like Jason knew his podcast with David was straight up bad. "You're gunna love it or hate it." Like, clearly he knows there's things in there that aren't right. In my opinion anyways

@@dreaming4ffr what was the reason he nearly lost his job?

YES! He was still close friends with todd (natalies bf obvs) and jason and to see where their loyalty lies must hurt. Without david though, both of them probably won't have careers left. I hope Jeff bounces back better than ever and accomplishes everything he sets his mind to.

I thought exactly the same thing. The heart break on his face. Gut wrenching

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So the fact that natalie would date someone like todd... speaks volumes... n how she got smacked n bleed from David n she was ok... like wtf. N jason has said before he owes everything he has to david

Jason and Natalie both need David. Jeff does not need him at all to be successful

That’s what happens when you allow malignant narcissist in your life. It’s like the devil you have to let him in. They consistently have to have a victim. When you get out it will be someone else. It could be emotionally and that can be worse as it takes a lot to get them out of your head.

He has Brian damage dude

Ya all become rich

Jeff and all the others stayed in the vlog squad because they got some kind of benefit. I mean he laughed at other people being hurt. I hope he heals from his injuries.. I hope he looks at why he wanted to be a part of a group of people who behaved badly. I hope he heals his body, his heart and his mind. So easy to say but, hard as hell to do.

I hope david loses all his “clout” and money. And Jeff doesn’t have to worry about having to pay for these medical bills. Poor dude is going to be paying for years and years of surgery.

Fr. I remember Jeff being one of the first people to blindly defend David when what he did to the two girls came out, which left a bad taste in everyones mouth. So him turning against David now goes to show that david didnt do anything at all for the guy. Not even the bare minimum like he used to

David Dobrik has one concern. Protect David Dobrik

Jeff is actually planning to sue David now.

Agree. Also remember, Jeff said the people who gave him a ride to the hospital took photos of him and tried to blackmail him which is why the news came out when it did. I think he also stated that he filmed it all as he went along but also had to wrap up the doc pretty quickly because of the blackmail and news of the accident being leaked.

Yeah. I'm sure it's what she said to try and help and he was truly feeling like that's bullshit but at the same time trying to take his mom's advice.

I can see that. When you consider that Jeff was still trying to work through this feelings himself telling him to let go of something he hasn't fully processed may not go over well

That's exactly what I was thinking too. My mom has heavily pushed forgiveness for awful things before, and it always felt gross and like it would never work the way she thought it would but I still had to at least try to forgive. I always ended up just getting more hurt because the people who I "needed to forgive" weren't actually apologetic anyway and didn't want to change. They only wanted me to stop holding them accountable. Now whenever the topic of forgiveness comes up, I feel a strong urge to shake my head no and roll my eyes because I'm so disgusted by the toxic culture around forgiveness. I can super see how he might end up with similar frustrations around his past efforts to forgive and the bad advice he'd gotten to make those efforts, which could very easily show in him slightly shaking his head no.

@@clockside forgiveness does not mean that you condone what someone has done to you forgiveness means you reserve the right not to pay them back. Just because you give someone forgiveness does not mean that the other party should not pay restitution.

Jeff has come out and said he shook his head because his mom is catholic and he knew he miss spoke and said she was Christian but he wasn’t sure if he should correct himself or go on so he was unsure for that reason.

especially since david probably makes over double whatever jeff makes

I dont know these people, but I can understand not calling David out sooner. I mean imagine going through all of this. Having this horrifying thing happen, being in the hospital and nearly dying because your "friend" made a horrible decision. Then you finally get out of the hospital and you very luckily lived. If I were him I would want a little bit more time to relax and stay out of the drama. He was still healing. I think it makes sense that he didn't come out about it right away. He also might have been giving David more time to say it himself.

He is because Jason is always the voice of reason he and Jeff are such good friends you know this has been a topic of deep conversation between them many times. Jason wants so hard to do right by Jeff but at the same time has to do everything he can to stay in David's good graces. It probably was just intensely killing Jeff (for lack of a better word) to watch his friend have to bow down and kiss David's ass in all of this because Jeff knows he basically has to. Just like everyone else in David's revolving door of a cult Jason wouldn't be where he is today without him, so he has to play the middle man in the best way possible without offending David but yet trying to get him to say what Jeff and everyone else deserve to hear. The truth. Imagine if everyone just started saying no to David. He wouldn't have shit. David is the one who should be so grateful and not the other way around. He wouldn't be where he is today if it weren't for al the people he manipulated and bought off to be in his vlogs. Did you know Heath also suffered a dislocated shoulder from a vlog he did for David? I believe it was for the same "come back" video. And look how that got swept under the rug. Zane got hurt on the trip to Hawaii that they were talking talking about. Someone is always getting hurt because of that piece if shit. Todd lost a huge sponsor that cost him like 100K because of a David vlog. David has done so much damage to all of these people. Ran Seth out of California over what happened to him. Trisha ends up in a mental hospital and on and on. I think everyone is finally starting to do well for themselves now. . to the point they don't need David. He's going to just go downhill from here in my opinion. More and more people will start speaking their truth eventually.

He was. Jason rarely takes sides from what I’ve seen (he was even seeing Trisha after they broke up behind David’s back for a little). Jeff clearly must want Jason to pick a side, but aside from relying on David for his career he generally just doesn’t pick sides. I also wonder if it’s a bit of the dad and him and wanting them to work it out. Of course they won’t.

Not necessarily, people who are manipulative will often add a grain of truth to make the lie more believable. That being said, I don't think that's what Jeff did!

He actually said on his most recent podcast that he did watch it!

I'm here from Jeff's podcast and he literally said not only did he watch it but that it was a good feeling to be told that he was justified in a way.

@@bobbykeating7976 That's so sweet-

Agreed. That's what narcs do, they gaslight to the point where people question their own sanity. It's classic manipulation (I'm not saying David IS a narcissist, but he definitely displays some characteristics imo). I feel for Jeff, David simply cannot accept any form of responsibility..

And that because Jeff has never lied about who he was or what he did. As for David, he keeps everything close to the vest. He only let's people see the good and doesn't show anything about himself. Who he is. His life. Nothing. He just hides behind the camera and exploits everyone else for his fun. Its not for his fans. It's for his own good time. His camera is a weapon. He records everything.

Yep. Jeff was a bad guy 10+ years ago, David is a bad guy *today*

That's what every narcissist does. He uses ur mistakes from the past against you, in order to distract from what's really going on!!! 🤢🤬🤬

Sadly, on places like the David dobrik subreddit they really do blame Jeff and think David should be absolved. They think Jeff is a piece of shit con scumbag and don’t believe any of this. It’s wild.

adding on to this. since jeff was introduced into the vlogs, david has always tried to portray him as a bad guy and makes these jokes about jeff's past and that's what many know jeff as (if they've never seen his personal work). david could possibly be trying to use this as a stepping stone to be shown in a better light, the same way he uses the "I'm just a kid who wants to have fun" even though he's in his mid to late twenties as a way to get sympathy from his audience.

He swung the crane at a 90 degree angle when Todd did the surf stunt. If you spotted it, when Jeff got on he extended/lifted the crane’s arm to a higher degree. It’s not rocket science but physics wise if you raise it like that the less control you have of the person you are swinging. This is not even the Jackass series. Those guys do training and are stuntmen signing up to do potentially dangerous stunts. Over here David does it without any training or controlled environment for a ‘bit’ and thinks he’s not responsible 🤯🤡

@@tywoods7234 and further to your Jackass comment they have ambulance crews on sight, health and safety teams all behind the camera. David’s video was filmed a way out in the middle of nowhere no safety team or ambulance on stand by. Jeff was driven to hospital by passers by because it was quicker than an ambulance.

Even with that hypothetical video evidence I still don’t shift blame from David. What kind of a friendship have you fostered where your friends come up to asking to risk their lives for your KZfaq videos where you’re gaining the majority of the wealth and fame. If you’ve fostered a friendship where people are volunteering to risk their life so you can get way more rich and famous you are manipulative at best. If you think the scrapes their getting in comparison to you were worth that risk; if you think you didn’t play a part in them believing those scrapes are worth that risk than you’re delusional. And pathetic.

@@MaryAlice08 you’re exactly right actually. I 100% agree

Completely 100% agree, even to the frenemies part, lol. #ripfrenemies

Same! I didn’t know who Jeff was until frenemies and now he’s my favorite.

Same. I had no clue who he was. Until I saw him on frenemies. Then I watched all the older episodes of barbershop and he’s a cool dude.

Agreed

ya meant devolve

At the very least it will pay for hospital bills!

I hope the lawyers convince Jeff to legally get David to compensate for the time he had to stop working and all the money he lost over the sponsors he had to miss out on due to the injury.

And David deserves to have a police record / criminal record at the very least !

@@frogdrug8282 yes agree!

Hopefully it will also deter David from doing dumb and dangerous stuff. His ego got way too large, imo. Almost like he felt he was untouchable and failed to use common sense. I hope this lawsuit wakes his up!!

Everything he said sounds like he got hurt, and it's from a perspective of a hurt kid, I guarantee he wasn't a big baby like this the whole time, he's just being this way because he got hurt. Here is a almost verbatim quote about stem cells. "he said I'll go half" I was like, I'll do it all myself" .........."eventually he went half but". He sounds like a snake, I'm sure he is.

David has emotions but project the shame onto other and when he attacks he feel happy ecstatic high, hurting gaslighting and critiquing others gives him pleasure. He is missing the chip to that tells us not to hurt an animal as evidence by his first vlog but he knows 100% right from wrong but thinks truly believes he is so much smarter that he will get away with it.

He is also such a bad liar so its obvious when he lies. And I believe he isnt lying

Of course he lies, he lied through his teeth when talking about his mobster wannabe buddy going and driving by Ethan Klein's house. He lied for months and months on end for David and Durte Dom. For both the SA Allegations and the accident. He just has the pity party thing working out really well for him. With the shit he pulled, him, david, and dom need to be behind bars. Hannah is the real victim and she still hasn't received justice.

I’ve been there too & it’s definitely justified

Amen. That girl went though so much and she wasn’t even out of high school. Jeff should totally stick with holding david accountable in civil court and hopefully criminal court can do something too

Unfortunately he would not have much luck in civil court, David's lawyers can easily prove that Jeff's actions were equally or almost equally negligible and that he clearly took on an assumption of risk since he knew that David is not licensed or trained to operate that machinery. It's not right but that's how the court of law works. I'm not sure about criminal law, but hopefully he would have better luck in criminal court.

@@tashpointohhh assumption of risk wont serve as a defence, rather an apportionment of liability. David’s actions were not accidental as he wants to claim. If you hit someone while driving on the road that you didn’t see coming there’s a basis for it being an accident. This right here was negligence. He operated a machine without proper licensing or training, in an uncontrolled environment for all intents and purpose of doing a stunt which could be very dangerous. He could have had a licensed operator handle the machine but he chose not to. There’s a reason for those licenses and the companies who has cranes understands there’s safety protocols they need to have especially for insurance. As for damages Jeff can get way more than what Mr Half-Half is giving. I know this because I deal with this on the regular.

@@tywoods7234 I just thought assumption of risk would play into this because Jeff willingly went along with the stunt knowing that David is not licensed to operate the machinery, and it was used in a way that the machinery's purpose is not intended for.

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That is heartbreaking- I hope he can find a new healthy outlet.

He literally consistently threatens to kick David's ass and then gets confused when David doesn't talk to him lol... I'd say his impulse control isn't very good at the moment

@@paperstreet1335 I think him wanting to kick his ass is pretty warranted lol

@@katiescott3354 lol I'm just saying there's nothing too impressive about his behavior since the accident, he's seemed pretty unhinged

@@paperstreet1335 And you wouldn't be unhinged after a TBI and literally almost dying? You don't seem to have a lot of empathy for the victim of the situation.

That, and he said in his podcast his mom's Catholic but he didn't want to correct himself in the moment.

This I agree with! I came to write the same thing. As a lapsed Catholic myself who’s mother also talks about “forgive to move on” it’s not always easy to do, especially if you’re Jeff in this situation.

Religion aside, "forgive to move on" shouldn't apply to all people and situations. Sadly, it's often used as a tool that abusers embrace and enforce to get away with terrible actions. "Oh forgive me and we'll all feel better, just don't question my actions or my feelings! Forgiveness is important!" Sometimes forgiveness should be earned. David has been caught up in being "canceled", meanwhile Jeff will have physical and mental trauma for the rest of his life. David isn't sorry. He put on that happy face baseball cap to go on his podcast and have Jason be his Yes Man. This should be the final red flag that anyone who works with David won't come out unscathed.

@@jurassicjaws I'm trained in spiritual care and psychotherapy, so this is a big thing that comes up in my practice: shame around our human emotions and how wrong interpretation of scripture plays in. It's kind of sad that even in the Bible, there are moments where JESUS HIMSELF was angry. He was ANGRY at exploitation he saw in the church, so much so that he went in with a whip and THREW OVER the money tables where they were forcing worshippers to pay needlessly high fees. The bible doesn't tell you to just "get over trauma" and "forgive at personal detriment." It says to be angry and feel your emotions, just don't "sin" or commit evil because of what you're feeling. "Forgive" the person as in understand God has forgiven you of all your human shortcomings, and so don't expect God to hold their shortcomings against them if they are seeking forgiveness and redemption, and don't poison yourself with that kind of bitterness of waiting for their downfall. That doesn't mean you can't feel your human emotions, and it doesn't mean you're God-ordained to be a doormat. The whole "forgiveness" thing NEVER meant to not feel your emotions.

@@psychologistplays3370 I wish I could give your comment an award, like on Reddit. It makes so much sense (and is so well written) that I have screen-shotted it for future reference. Thank you.

@@thelovelymisshill i screenshotted too! great comment

Foshizel!

Body language is a pseudoscience lol

True colors will always shine bright. Sometimes you don’t even have to open the crayon box, lol, they do it for themselves. Figuratively speaking of course haha but 110% if you can listen, truly listen, you really have an advantage and understanding beyond just the words coming from their mouth. Take care 💗

@@xxx_rotfd_xiii_xii3619 then why do you watch if you’re not somewhat emotionally invested in the content?

@@BoopsNstuff I didn’t watch the video I just come in the comments to be a hater

Not only the age gap, but there life experiences they’ve had. Chicago suburbs boy Vs New Jersey Man.

David Dobrik is only 25 years old?! He looks like a man in his 40s! Does being a douche age you up or something?

@@goduxunike Jeff is born and raised in a hood in Staten Island

Omg that was my highschool experience too 💀💀 Most of my friendgroups did that

The betrayal is heavy. I’ve gone through the same with domestic abuse and people siding with the abuser because he was popular and charismatic. It’s the hardest way to learn who really cares about you. The level of disappointment about people not caring AND siding with abusers adds double the trauma to an already horrific situation. Sorry to anyone else who relates too. It’s not nice being down and then getting an extra kick with all the betrayal from everyone.

@@hadassah6085 I kinda feel ur pain, I also had experience with domestic abuse and pple our lives siding with the abuser, one of the reasons why I went back so many times, u start to question ur own reality and lose faith on urself as well other's ... I hope u are out of the situation and safe, and have pple who u can trust and talk to, maybe go to therapy if it's possible for you 💖 Im just telling you this cause this happened to me almost 10 years ago, but I didn't have the opportunity to get the right help, and these years have been mildly saying hard, I got insomnia and PTSD, those where misdiagnosed, and I was severely depressed, only last two years I have been getting right help and trying to get back to normal life... Don't want to scare anyone, just inform that it's not all about the traumatic events but more how u deal with it afterwards... But of course Don't let anyone tell u what's best way for u to heal and go forward, this was only stranger's friendly adwise based on her own experience so if this was not it for u sorry for putting in, I just hoped I knew to trust myself and didn't listen doctor who said u need to just stop thinking about those things and then everything gets better 💖💖💖💖💖💖 best wishes for u and everyone in these situations 💖💖💖

@@hadassah6085 Yeah. My situation involved SA and people just did not want to get involved... Judith Herman wrote a great book called Trauma and Recovery, and one part that always stuck with me was that not having support in a traumatic situation is a trauma within itself. Tbh, if I had support from my loved ones at the time, I don't think I would have PTSD today. Sending you and all other survivors all my love. We got this

going through something similar lol

Completely agree with you. There's literally a scene in Jeff's doc where he makes clear he just wanted David to check in but David ghosted for months. He's got Jonah/Nick telling him David didn't know what to do and his long time friend Vince asking why a text is so hard. It seems like the minute he was hurt he became a pariah.

@@nogi2958 I didn't know that! That sucks! To me, it feels really middle school. Like you hurt your friend but you're too prideful or embarrassed to say sorry so you avoid them for a while lol but these are adults. The first thing David probably thought of when Jeff got hurt was "lawsuit and more cancellation" which is why he ghosted him smh. Plus how hard is it to send a text lol! I mean David makes that video where he "apologizes" to Jeff in the end but Jason is the one to call him and tell him to watch the video? Like if you really cared about your friend David, argument or not, the least you could do is text him yourself!

Right!? Like how hard is it to just ASK, "what do you need from me? Do you need space or do you need me here?" And even if your friend says they need space, in an instance like this, the follow-up question should be, "well, at the very least, what's the least intrusive way I can check in and keep tabs on your recovery? Do you want me to go through your team for a while? Are you okay with me checking in over text once a week or month?" Real guilt/shame/empathy/pain over what happened would motivate you to try everything in your power to make it right.

@@psychologistplays3370 I saw this comment and another of yours on the other thread about forgiveness, and you’re incredibly insightful, I was actually kind of sad to see you don’t upload videos to your channel. Have you considered it? If so, you really should. You have a way of explaining and simplifying things that are really easy to digest and understand. :)

Where can I read more about this incident? I'm just wondering how a pinecone to the face can lead to an infection in legs leading to possible amputation. Asking because a pinecone dropped on my head from a tall pine. Wondering if I was lucky. 😬

@@paisleesheppard5629 it's called How I ruined my best friend's Life

This comment just goes to show how people make assumptions. His friend got an infection in his hip after David threw a pinecone and it accidently hit him in the face. His friend had a hip replacement, not a leg amputation..

@@ellieaine1496 it was a slight miscommunication of the facts…not an assumption. Are you saying the two events weren’t correlated or? Otherwise, leg and hip mix up is not that big of a deal, it does not vindicate David nor does it negate the point that David does have a history of harming others for content.

@@giaparmer Amputation of a leg and a hip replacement are pretty extreme mix ups lol

That honestly sounds about right.

Or maybe he’s just pointing out his moms influence and how she raised him to believe in forgiveness. Just another thought to add to what may have occurred I’m not saying you’re wrong or picking on you.

@@bettyjojoeharperre-imagina7322 i think that’s totally possible as well!

@@bettyjojoeharperre-imagina7322 yeah. A lot of southern people do that.

I missed that part. David said he called Jeff because David was depressed?

From how David was talking last video I had no idea he almost died, permanent injuries are bad enough, but almost killing your friend should be absolutely devastating to you and you should feel guilty, David doesn't seem really guilty or remorseful, he should've been checking up on Jeff to see if he's okay, not calling him because he's down, talk to someone else if you're sad, not the person you nearly KILLED

I know you meant “that alone” but saying “that alien” is actually so unintentionally apt cos Ethan Klein was joking about David Dobrik being an alien because he doesn’t understand human emotion lol

@@marshmallow4646 David's obviously remorseful, he feels horrible. He literally said "At the end of the day, I was the one f*cking driving it. It was MY video. I was the one sitting there. It's f*cking clear as day. I am the one controlling the thing. He got hurt because I was driving. That's it. And I f*cking know that, and like I said, any chance I get I would take that back. ANY CHANCE I WOULD GET. And that'll be the biggest regret of my life. My entire life."

@@paperstreet1335 that's insincere... He literally wouldn't have a problem taking 150% of the blame but instead he playing victim. He literally only regret it because now he has to answer to it

I never watched David's videos either. David wouldn't have just had charges against him. He would have been deported too

I think if Jeff did die (thank god he didn’t) that David wouldn’t be in serious trouble or in jail right now

That head shake proves nothing. Us brown ppl do it all the time lmao

That’s exactly how I interpreted it

@@taherachoudhury1434 just curious of the different interpretations. ^-^ I forget it can be different for different cultures or areas ^^

Someone in a different comment section said his mom was catholic he said on a diff podcast when he talked about her, so he probably didn’t want to stop in the middle of his sentence and just kept going (idk if it’s true tho I don’t really watch Jeff)

My thoughts exactly

I think it matters because a lot of people think David pressured Jeff to get on the excavator, so he wanted to clarify that that wasn't true

@@paperstreet1335 I'm saying that David used the comment incorrectly. Even if Jeff did say this comment to David, and David wanted to "prove he did nothing wrong", Jeff's brain was literally hanging out of his skull. You can't really hold what anyone says against them in those moments.

THIS! It's ridiculous to say "ah yes, this is sound logic, he's thinking rationally!" and apply it to your defense. Brain/Head injuries make people say and do some wild things. If he did say anything, he's lucky it wasn't absolute word-salad. His brain probably spit out the first sentence he could think of.

I also think his memory recall issues may be related to that. If his brain was hanging out and he went under a lot of anesthesia, not to mention memory suppression surrounding intense trauma, he may have lost a lot of memories. His soft tones also remind of how I feel when my pain from trauma spikes up, moving to a more defeated and tired tone because my head hurts so bad.

Yeah or going from calm to angry is human

I've actually done the opposite. I'm way more aware of my own non-verbal tells. No grippy sock vacation for me ma'am, thank you 😂

@@auntienyannyan just recently I was having a really difficult conversation with my boyfriend about his job and what his goals are for the future, and I noticed mid conversation I was rubbing my legs so profusely and I’m like “ohh that’s a self soothing gesture” lmao and it took me out of the conversation 😂

I agree! The head shake I think is from him saying he has to forgive. Maybe subconsciously he’s still resentful and doesn’t want to forgive David

@@2301kittykat Yup! that’s what I think too.

David just needs to go away.

@@maria7filipina lmaoo

No, its classic narcissism. And not the type of narcissism that people throw around just to be mean but actual narcissim. My ex was the same way.

I think David is so emotionally stunted. He's been on social media since he was a kid. It's been nothing but content content content for years and he's not formed any true relationships with anyone. Everyone is replaceable. As soon as tbe monkey stops dancing he pushes them out and moves in the next one. The only person that's been there since the beginning is Natalie and if you ask me she is a surrogate mom to David. She takes care of everything for him. David is a grown child on top of being a narcissist. He's probably even a sociopath. He's got zero ability to feel emotion. The only emotion he shows is a manipulation tactic. And he's 100% manipulative. He could easily be a Jeffrey Dahmer.

SOME PPL DO HAVE A PROBLEM EXPRESSING THEM SELVES ..

Seems so convoluted for an assistant to have an assistant..

That’s when you gotta *literally* clapback, if you know you know, put this loser in his place

David should have been charged, but his friends didn’t want him to get deported

@@DanielleStarry I don’t really care about whether or not a rapist gets deported.

@@Bubblies005 exactly. 🤗💗🙏🏽

Jeff had major brain trauma. His doctor rated his brain as a 4/10 in his docuseries. He hides his struggles with video editing so you can’t really tell how affected he was cognitively. However in other people’s podcast where there’s a lot less video editing you can see that his was in fact impaired by his accident.

@@samanthacarrier8955 thank you for this information. Brain injuries are no joke like he will literally never be the same again. And Bc of the experience in my field there is still a happy full life to live after a TBI!! But it has to be overwhelming upsetting that the person who caused such drastic change in his life wants to victim blame and show no remorse

when i get angry i dont yell, i get quieter. people think its because im a quiet person but im really not, its mostly my way of making sure i dont yell or burst into tears, because i start sobbing uncontrollably when im angry for some reason. its not even that im sad at all, im just actually so angry that all i can do is cry. so to prevent it i just get quiet and try to control it. im not saying that jeff is like me, but i do think you are right about it being his way of controlling his emotions

@@stjeep i do the same thing. i noticed in Jeff’s video that he seemed emotionally fatigued by the end of it. maybe this is where i’m seeing sadness; he just seems “done” with this whole situation. not only was he put in a position where had to explain his truths in response to David’s claims, but he also had to provide soooo much contextual information that David conveniently left out of his video. that’s a lot of emotional ground to cover.

This whole channel is amazing! I love to procrastinate with this channel 😂

Hahahah I feel like a full on psychological genius after watching this channel for years

He filmed this a mere days after another surgery so he likely was on pain killers, you’re absolutely correct

I think Jeff is somewhat still religious as I’ve heard him mention his faith a couple times before surgeries. Anyway the guy is reeeaally going through it atm. His situation sounds like a living hell.

@@samanthacarrier8955 Good to know! That would make sense. I'm sure especially having grown up in a religious household, and especially before something as major as neurosurgery, I'd be praying too. And I've considered myself an atheist for almost two decades. My heart really breaks for Jeff too. I had never heard of him (or anyone else in the vlog squad except Trisha) until the crane accident. Having dated a guy with a TBI (who was actually treated at the same hospital as Jeff after his accident) I know how difficult accute traumatic brain injuries can be to deal with. And it had been almost 10 years since my partner's car accident when we first began dating. The best thing he ever did in our relationship was to be up front about what lasting effects his head injury had BEFORE we ever began dating. His most significant impairments were in his "cognitive empathy and short-term memory" If I didn't text him something he'd completly forget it happened. Unless he put it in his calendar immediately, I should expect that he would forget whatever I told him. When playing 'the newlywed game' he couldn't remember anything about our first kiss-- which actually worked out perfectly because it was equally unmemorable for me. 😆 However to be going through all of the physical recovery, in addition to trying to come to terms with the emotional injuries that comes when you realize that someone who you've considered a mentor and friend, someone you've been loyal to, literally fits the criteria of psychopathy. I truly can't imagine how difficult this whole process has been for him. Especially with social media. 😔

i agree

I think that Jeff has some true friends in David's group, and that's why he handled things the way he did with the documentary. He already had this anger with David, but tried to smooth it out because he feels close to a few people in the circle that are loyal to David. I'm happy that he is sticking up for himself finally, because he has every right to be angry and call David out on his lack of accountability.

I love how people are making assumptions about David Dobrik's whole personality and motives based off of 4 minute youtube videos. Like damn bro, you do not know this person, as much as it seems like you do! So many implications made in your comment, yet none of it is substantiated or backed by any sort of facts--- just internet rumors and opinionated videos disguised as "expertise."

Looks like we got a David fan in yo comment. xD

@@junecooper7568 I could care less about either of them or this whole situation lmao. I just hate when people try to characterize others on the internet when they have never met them. Its an illusion of familiarity made 10x stronger with a platform like youtube.

@@junecooper7568 so much subtle hatred in your reply, I wish you the best of luck in learning a bit of empathy brother.

Hahahahahah omg I didn’t realise but now I’m sad too

I noticed that too. I'm French and for us idiote just means stupid person. I know that he means it like the little definition says but I think it's so funny.

Yes. Plus, Jeff has a stutter because of the accident. His videos are highly edited so it's easy to miss that he does struggle with those issues. However, it comes out on other people's podcast where a lot less editing is done.

Came to actually see this when he mentioned it bc I did get this in my recommendations but went over it

I noticed that too! Which makes sense

I agree, Jeff’s heritage and geographic upbringing are meaningful to understanding his body language. “Italian from Staten Island” is a truly relevant filter.