Hey everyone! This was definitely one of my favourite interviews to date! I encourage you to listen to the whole thing if you can find the time, but if not feel free to hop around according to topic (below). This IS also available on my podcast (The Jeff Nippard Podcast on iTunes and Stitcher). Timestamps below 👇 0:00 - Intro/ Explaining that I do have a podcast! (The Jeff Nippard Podcast on iTunes) 2:43 - Interview starts & our Arnold Classic Expo experience 6:44 - Summary of The Volume Roundtable and clarifying misconceptions about Mike's volume concepts 13:38 - What is training volume, exactly? How do you measure it practically? 17:52 - What "sets" are important to track? Do we count warm up sets, supersets, dropsets, etc. toward total set volume? 20:35 - How to individualize volume and problems with cookie-cutter programs 23:32 - Do very heavy sets (1-4 reps) and very light sets (20+ reps) have a place in hypertrophy programming? 26:31 - How HARD should you train? What is the role of EFFORT? 29:18 - How important is taking sets to failure compared to doing more volume? (Argument/discussion between Jeff and Mike) 36:27 - Are certain exercises better/worse than others for failure training? 41:05 - Should beginners learn "what it feels like" to exert themselves to failure? 45:52 - Discussion of the "You're Not Training Hard Enough!" study (www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/29112055) 52:30 - Defining of Maintenance Volume (MV), Minimum Effective Volume (MEV), Maximum Adaptive Volume (MAV) and Maximum Recoverable Volume (MRV) -- How many sets per week for each? 58:43 - Explaining a mesocycle and how to apply volume concepts to a program 1:05:03 - Block periodization discussion

Amazing camera angle from my man mike

Mike's always taking his blinks to failure lol

Love it when these 2 gents get together. Great stuff.

Nice interview with Mike Israel's Chest.

nipple of truth

I really enjoyed looking up Dr Mike's nostrils

Great video and interview.

I gotta say the most important thing i learned from watching dr mike is deload weeks. I used to work out 6 days a week like 5 to 10 years ago. I made alot of gains but i thought i had to keep going or id lose everything. I went a whole year without taking a break without deloading, just full out to failure with every set. Eventually i was so darn exhausted, my joints were screaming, and i my muscles never healed. I was basically forced to stop and when i did i stopped and never went back. I think i was just toast mentally and physically. I was in my 20s at the time, now im in my 30s and my joints have never been the same. i Ive recently gotten back into it and i noticed this week im starting to take longer to recover, its getting harder for me to bring myself to grab the weight, and just knowing i have the lingering joint issues, im going into a deload week next week before i get so far gone i never go back again.

Honestly, no exaggeration, but this one interview and the concepts spoken in it have revolutionized my training.

Playing the whole thing all the way through AND listening to the whole damn thing because I’m here to learn! 🤓😄 When I want to learn something new and I want credible info, I know this is always the place to come for both! Same with Stephanie’s channel. Two of my favorites.☺️

I can see that big brain from this angle!

What a jolly face full of positive high energy vibes

2:43 Jeff: so guys i'm here with Dr Mike Israetel... Mike: *yawns*

Dr Isratel always looks too casual in these vids, like he's Facetiming his girl at 1 AM

My two favorite youtubers

35:29 "I can burn someone to a crisp with a session like that" cool statement 👍

Everything Dr Mike Israetel has said about failure training is the answer to new having my cns exhausted, bad sleep and decreasing weight on the barbell. Thank you, Jeff, for the interview, you're always bringing so much knowledge opportunities for me in every video!

We love you, Mike!

This is so good I had to watch it twice

Dr Mike is so cute, he looks like a giant baby

Hey Jeff, awesome video man. Really smooth flow to the interview and excellent questions. One question though...where are Mike's elbows in the thumbnail? Keep up the great work!

this is pure GOLD!!!

Commenting for KZfaq algorithms4

"relative jackness". LMAO. This is the kind of language you get when you combine a badass bodybuilder with a PhD. Love it!

This is overall the best strength training interview I've ever seen/heard.

Great interview and good info...I've been taking my last two sets completely to failure for over 2 weeks now and the fatigue now is severe enough that I think it's gonna take a few days before I can enjoy training again...I kinda wish had had not went quite so hard because I probably would get more overall progress if I could have continued for a few more weeks without a break...just started back weight training and I've made great gains but I'm just not conditioned for it yet

Watch to the end! Cycle type explanation/use was very informative!!!

This is absolutely fire. If you’re into fitness/bodybuilding/physique/health and you’re not watching Jeff Nippard, what tf are you doing??

What he see vs what she see

More Dr.Mike

Great video thanks

I really appreciate Jeff's pushback in regard to training to failure. I am fresh back to weight training after years off and I never used to push myself back then. I couldn't understand why I couldn't go up in weight lifted for a few years of training. Now, I'm 1 month+ in and I'm finally lifting heavier now because I learned how it feels to push harder, do more hard reps and how to get a few reps out from failure 💜 I love this style of video!!

Jeff and dr. Mike videos are the videos we need

Thanks guys, great info.

This is my fav type of dr. Mike

Thanks for the time and effort to make this happen jeff, very informative!

Jeff:but failure please? Mike: no..no

Thanks!

This video/interview has literally skyrocketed my progress and performance.

OH my word, this is so good. I'm super new to weight training and this channel has been a godsend in my learning and understanding of good practice in the gym. Great stuff man. I also love listening to two science nerds and then seeing two buff guys on the screen. It's breaking the idea that brawn and brains can't be in the same body haha.

4:05 i thought he was gonna say "people out there starving" xD

I wish I could like this again such great info even now.

I love how he just pulls out a protein shake.

So basically what I got from this video was Doing 5-20 reps in a set Anything less than 5 is not enough for hypertrophy Taking sets to 2 reps from failure will maximize hypertrophy, pushing to failure accumulates fatigue Did I miss anything?

Really appreciate this conversation. Used to be fit as a high school and collegiate athlete, then slowly but surely let myself go. Getting back into it and feel something like a beginner again, and this discussion and advice is super helpful

Can’t believe it’s been 5 years since this video came out.

Thank you for all ur information and help it helps

That classic Dr. Mike camera angle. Does he do it because it looks hilarious? Wouldn't surprise me.

Mike talking about beginners bleeding under barbells reminds me of the first time I tried bench press after having only done machines, I forgot to add the weight of the bar to my calculation so I got absolutely stuck 😂 I was like "help" luckily some buff dude came lifted it off, and told me how much the barbell itself weighed 😅

Great Video !

Mike has thought about every possible scenario and argument. I can't think of any subject matter expert in any field I've listened to who is as well prepared to talk about it. I'm not saying he's rright about everything - I'm not qualified to judge - but he's got a reasoned opinion about everything he talks about.

Instant like for Dr. Mike!

Been a follower of Mike's work for several years now. Miles ahead of most when it comes to training knowledge.

fire cam angle doc

Ever since I bought Dr.Mike's app I managed to cut my time in the gym and maximize results. In my opinion RIR (reps in reserve) is the optimal way to go about training.

30:39 so true. I only started making fast progress with my beginner routine when i started leaving 1-3 reps in reserve. I used to take everything to failure and i wouldnt recover properly.

This whole podcast is solid, definitely feel more informed in the hypertrophy sense. THANK UUUUU JEFF AND MIKE 😏

Great info listening 2022 still a great podcast

I think i've watched this one like 3 times... it's great info.

Damn it man why does it still feel like this information is above me? I have to watch it again. When I first began my journey I was hitting every body part with 30 sets per week doing bro splits. What a difference it makes by doing a 6 day split and increasing intensity! Thanks Jeff!

Always love Dr. Israetel! This was really great! You guys together did an amazing job of covering this content in a enjoyable, thorough, effective, and understandable way! So much appreciated! Keep up the great work!

Good stuff

Golden info

Every single interview with Dr. Mike is him holding the camera down on his lap lmao

Every time you make these long videos, I think oh gosh.... BUT suddenly I’m at the end wishing they were longer. Awesome video Jeff. If I could double like and double subscribe I would.

Dr Mike is awesome

Awesome! Thanks so much fellas 🙏🏽

I always wondered what happened to Paulie after the Rocky series. Looks like he got swole.

Oh man I laugh so hard with Mike 😂 definitely one of the best content Jeff, this is better than school

Brilliant, as always.

Brains and Brawns! Awesome!

This was a super informative podcast my guy, all of your content is very genuine and your approach is much different compared to many bodybuilders.

Would really like to hear you talk to Chris Beardsley

Brilliant

It makes me very satisfied that these two, who I admired, respect each other.

Listen to this guy. He knows a lot. He provides the BEST info for natural lifters. You gonna make a lot of gains if you follow his approach and principles.

Instructions unclear, now every sentence I say is a question.

Video calling my dad while I study abroad

Damn I wish I had that fig tree.

When he shook the blender bottle XD XD

Brain gains 💪🏻

It’s IS-REE-AH-TELL

Dr. Israetel differentiates stimulus from fatigue. He says one set to failure generates too much fatigue; yet he also says that one set is not enough stimulus. However, it makes more sense from a biological and evolutionary perspective, that stimulus and fatigue are one and the same thing.

Did this Dr. roll in his bed, turned on his computer and do an interview?

Great video! Could you interview Eric Helms on your channel? :)

I think Jeff hit the nail on the head at 34:00 when he says that training to failure on every set is best for those who don’t have the time to spend reaching that optimal volume at the gym. I only have about 30-45 min on my lunch hour with a set of dumbbells (and bands, don’t judge Mike and Jeff I can feel your eyes rolling) in my office at work (no time at home with the kids) and doing calisthenics to failure to get any type of regular hypertrophy or decent pump and I was able to put on 25lbs, from 6’3” 190lbs to 215lbs, in a little under 3 months (which I honestly didn’t think was humanely possible and I never made those types of gains with the regular high volume amount of sets I did in the gym back in the day. Now with that being said I am 30 years old and I had almost reached 215lbs 4 years ago so perhaps most of that was just muscle memory. I also hit a creatine loading phase for the first time in my life because I (and it took me way too long) finally realized the claims of it resulting in kidney damage were complete bullshit… Now I’m kicking myself for all the wasted sets in my 20’s...

some seriously intelligent ass buff dudes

Hey Jeff, following this, could you make a video on planning mesocycles for hypertrophy?

bret contreras the next time please

He had me at Ayn Rand and objectivism.

This is probably the most informative video on hypertrophy training on the internet. Thankyou!

Great interview! What is the difference between a) 2 sets of squats 7 days a week and b) 7 sets of squats 2 days a week? The volume is the same, but what is best and why?

Yasss! I've been waiting for a vid like this 😁

the dr got that hgh head spikes thing

What a "stumbleupon" this is. Two of the BB greats in their early KZfaq days! Fantastic stuff.

Everytime I feel like I'm well educated in fitness, I realize just how much I still have to learn... This was a great interview/podcast!

At first a 1 hour interview seemed intimidating and boring to watch but as i started listening i got really into it and learned a couple of new things. Thank you jeff.

Sets to be measured in fatigue, how close are you to fatigue Figure out your individual body parts mrv 2 reps short of failure better -35:00

You are a MVP for timestamping.