God let me be the first to say this man’s content is so freaking helpful!!!!!! I have every character in genshin impact and never know what teams to build but this just saved my account you have no idea.

I can't take part in the giveaway "It is saying this promtion is not aviable in your region" i am from India ... Genshin UID - 889047840 server - Asia name - Ace

Bruh, can you make arlechino abyss showcase for the 1st part? If you can without zhongli. Its quite satisfying to see those perfect dodge.

Nah man hu tao is better than any single target dps like arle at C0 , if you add cons i will agree but at f2p level she is just stronger

@@kwlockI’ll be doing a giveaway for 50k subs soon that everyone can take part in ~

Or Ayaka

Cryo is off meta since sumeru

power creep

it's her downfall bro since dendro teams coming

Tbh Ganyu wasn't even that good even during her release

Hard contender between Dori & Freminet.

You forgot Freminet the 3* Eula

Diona

Mika slams

​@@curly_bill yess he fits the bill😭

There is alhaitham tho. And if you mention furina, you kinda need to mention yelan and zhong as well.

Fontaine is meta for dps while liyue is meta for sub dps

@@cookietpodand shield zhongli don’t forget lol strongest shield

​@@cookietpod Sumeru best filler characters.

Yeah.... and it kind of upsets me. I spent most of the last two years building the META teams from years 1-3, and then I get told that BTW you can just pull the new one characters. SMH. I just built Hu Tao... here's Arlecchino. I just built Tartaglia and Ayato... here's Neuvillette. I just built Noelle... here's Navia (not too sore about that one). I just built Albedo... here's Chiori. Now I'm just standing by for Clorinde to power-creep my Raiden - and she will. At least Ayaka is still as good if not better tan Wriothesley, but cryo has fallen off a bit.... And I wouldn't mind so much, but I've lost every 50/50 for each of the Fontaine characters that I pulled for. So, thanks for the C3 Diluc, C0 Dehya, and C1 Tighnari, Hoyo.... but I would have been happier with e.g. Navia and Neuvillette.

Accurate tbh.

Really insane damage output. If only she wasn’t such a pain to build and run without Childe or Raiden

Damage still lower than the top dps

She's off field, on field she does nothing.​@@sudiptaday7875

More accurate statement: Nunber 1 sub dps

And free crit dmg

I think what really put him over the edge is how he can ignore 90% of the defensive mechanics in the game (need no shield, needs no heal, needs no Dodge, needs almost no positioning, needs no skill)

Free crit rate, free crit damage, large af aoe, best self sustainability and large constant damage I don't think anyone even close to him

Also can bypass enemy shields like lawrachurl wooden or rock shields, which virtually no other dps can do

Its one problem, nerf nerf and there will finally be a balanced game

...just to still get canceled afterwards

It's not even worth calling them a community. They don't belong to any.

i can sense the hu tao mains attacking him already kekw

the calm games seem to always have the worst and most stressful fanbases..

Nobody is getting cancelled relax lol

That' actually really good point he can hit opponents through shields

Every one overlook how easy to play he is for mobile players, other dps mains just cry and say that we got skill issue and thus need easy playstyle.

Its unfortunate they just left that mechanic for a good while now, most new enemies only have elemental shields

skill issue, you just need to tap 1 for stager and angle at the side for 1 hit lmao,

This is true, you can notice on the 11th floor with the metachul with stone shields (geo) and alrecchino is like hitting the wall, while neuvilette can pass the wooden and geo shields for me that is a pretty good extra added value

I don't get it anyone with a brain would create this exact list

​@@xxx0ox0 Yeha by my thinking this is correct list

​@xxx0ox0 anyone with a brain isn't a delusional arlecchino simp, she is nowhere near alhaitham level and not even stronger than hu tao

Idc, Hu Tao > Arle

​@@someonesomewhere8658💀

Not gonna happen, those people leave already....

I really need more DPSs because I have more Supports than DPSs and using the same 3 teams will start to get really repetitive for me.

@@SlimeImpact. they claim to leave but you know it we know it everybody knows that they are still coping collecting mints

@@reedsad4652 🤣 yeah I can't denied that ...

As a wrio main. My main being mid saves me the trouble of getting tangled with this kind of mess lmao.

Shes just gamechanger man,i didnt believe how much people coped on criticising her on her release and now they’re tempted to pull for da queen.

@@Shreyash112 truly

@@Shreyash112 brother you just said in last comment that #1 support is xiangling... If u knew about #furina already then why u did that comment my friend 😂, I thought u didn't have Furina yet and I was going to recommend u to get her... But u already have furina ..I am glad ... Just be yourself 😌. #1 sub dps and #1 best support is #Furina... Xiangling is awesome no doubt but Not better than Furina... 😌

Im an idiot. I got Wriothesley and didn’t get furina but when she’s out next I’ll 100% get her

@@SlimeImpact.Peter, Xiangling’s not a support, she’s… she’s just sub-DPS

After the story quest, yeah I don't think so

Still weaker than neuvi and arle in lore

He too strong for comparing with rest of characters

She deserves a top 5 at best Prenium team xiao stomps

​@@ednatopg3074ciao shouldn't even be mentioned here.

@@pontoancora this is 4.6 bud. Xiao premium Is currently one of the best teams in the game. Meta is always changing

@@ednatopg3074 auhauhauah in your dreams.

​@@ednatopg3074it's a good team don't get me wrong but navia is better she doesn't need 2 limited 5 star and a c6 4 star

Plus his takes here are W. I agree with the top 5 along with all the honourable mentions.

My issue is just skill issue. You can't just put characters down and explain: too hard to play. They are great or not, skill issue just doesn't count. Maybe I don't care if a characters is difficult or not for others, I just try and see if they are difficult for me or not. I think everyone should decide if they are good with these characters or not.

​@@Camelia437Nobody is saying a character is bad. It's just a fact that certain characters perform better than the others, and the majority are more inclined to consider how easy it is to access the DPS above anything else. Hypothetically, if Car A that's driven by a professional driver performs slightly better than Car B that's driven by an average car guy and knowingly it'll outperform Car A if it were also to be driven by a professional driver then I think we already knew what car most people will choose.

​​​​@@alport1331No, the difficulty of playing a character and a team is too personal. I don't care if the majority find A easy and B difficult, it may be the opposite for me. If you play a character and a team enough it can become natural. At the same time, he doesn't consider Hu Tao difficult to play, which is a joke in my eyes. Maybe now, you can argue since we get Xianyun, but I still see her playing in VV vape for speedruns.

Like I am sorry but I don't care if players have Faruzan C6 or not. If I have Faruzan C6, I just want to know how good Wanderer and Xiao are and not being bait because others doesn't have her. I don't think this is a issue here, but I just can't stand when people say: "oh they are bad because I don't have Faruzan C6". We just don't care about your account.

Nah cause the top 5 are all so close, it’d be even harder to make a top 10 Although I think navia should be a top 5 contender and xiao top 4

​@@ednatopg3074xiao? Hahahah

@@ednatopg3074 it sucks but cloud retainer main dps does more damage than xiao, lol. she literally doesn't need him on that slot. not that xiao is weak. he's super strong now (used to be real bad before her tho)

@@GenshinYuppe how does cloud retainer do more damage than xiao? Do you realise she’s a support for him? And his damage scaling is higher, so anyone with common sense would realise xiao would do more damage 💀 ur basically saying 5 x 10 is more than 10 x 10

@@tavinhoo what’s bro laughing at

After Shenhe’s first banner, mono cryo has always been a viable and consistent team comp

ayaka will never be in the top 5 ever again. freeze is simply a suboptimal reaction. Any abyss that'll favor freeze will favor the other reactions a lot more, it's fundamentally flawed.

Never. No one does what ayaka does better than her in the best given situation but neuvillete comes in like close second to every "dps's best situation" with the plus of needing no skill/build requirements. For exemple every character on the list (maybe with the exeption of navia and raiden) deals more dmg than him but hydro pump still top1

bro did you hear about mono cryo i don't know how people still think that all ayaka can fo is freez like bruh you don't need that 20% crit rate it's not the end of the world i played ayaka in this abyss against boss and i was dealing over 1 millon damage with only her burst in 5 seconds so easily i completely destroyed every single boss in almost 1 rotation and i was playing so bad cuz i was speed running to take the primo for my pulls and she doesn't even have a good 5 star weapon and shes c0 same for every other character in the team there all c0 expect Bennett and they all have 4 star weapons so yeah just play momo cyro bro losing 20 % crit rate isn't the end of the world you don't need 100% crite rate to play the game and I'm 100% that anyone even build a character with over 85 crit rate so losing that 20% is the same as building a normal character​ and by the way i was playing her with c6 Bennett as well so yeah c6 Bennett doesn't affect her at all @@ashenzenden

people have that misconception about ayaka and they think she can only be played in freez and i don't even think that this abyss doesn't favor her i was using mono cryo or a hypercary you call it ( ayaka Bennett shenha and kazuha) and i was destroying every single boss with almost 1 rotation so easily with a c0 team except Bennett and it wasn't even close the only abyss where she can't be good is if there is so many cryo monsters with high cryo resistance like the ones in the first half and that's a normal thing every abyss is different and every character will struggle in the same situation so it's not like it's just a ayaka thing but you can completely destroy the second half of the abyss so easily with a mono cryo team and you don't really need Bennett you can play any other cryo character instead or you can play mona if you want and you can even change the team completely if you want i played her with a 4 stars only and finished the abyss so easily with Rosaria and sucrose and Bennett and ayaka of course so yeah i don't think he played ayaka enough to know how powerful the character is and i think it's the same with everyone they keep focusing on the characters that got buffed or the new ones and think that others become worse which is the complete opposite for ayaka for me shes as good as alhaitham and her freez team is the best and the most broken team when it works high damage and complete control of the whole field is just insane

After Neuvillette and Arlecchino, Alhaitham is number 3 and he ain’t Fontanian.

@@bench-kun6243 how is Alhaitham so strong

@@stressedhaish69420because of how his kit abuses the advantages his element (dendro) offers Dendro is an element that centers around reaction - the fact that we have so many dendro-related reaction, it’s how Hoyo intend for the element to be used and Alhaitham makes use of those reactions in both his personal dmg and as a reaction driver. Alhaitham’s highest dmg ceiling is Quicken - his personal dmg on Spread is amazing on top of being able to provide enough dendro application for aggravate for his electro team mates Then you have the comfort of opting for Hyperbloom/Quickbloom team comp, trading some of his spread dmg to allow for another off-field dmg such as hyperbloom Lastly, his synergy with the best dendro character in game - Nahida. Alhaitham makes use of all the support Nahida offers So these are the reasons why alhaitham is strong

@@stressedhaish69420 nahida

​@@bench-kun6243 It's not over Clorinde is on the horizon.

I think not boring but it's confirm win on one side abyss u have to only focus on second team

I dont understand ehy ppl mains standing char, u lose all the exciting stuff of this game.... arlecchino in a breath of clean air, we love our father

@@atx6804 I understand why people main Neuvillette lol. It's because he has DPS near the top of the chart, the best consolidated AOE in the game that allows him to hit a whole abyss floor without trying, and extremely high durability with tons of HP and built in healing. He's a casual player's dream with enough damage to be a top speedrun character. He's not as fun as Xiao or Alhaitham or especially Arlecchino, but he is stronger than all of them because unlike them, he has literally zero practical downsides.

I put her below Neuvillete because of Bennet's circle impact. Once we get a dedicated support to replace Bennet she will be number one.

@@pankace3296I just can’t with the ppl that main him and then shit on every other dps like girl I get I have him and his weapon he’s broken asf but he’s also boring and if ur just gonna make him the standard ur not gonna get another dps for a while

Probably in 4.8 . GL he's amazing

Possibly in 4.7/4.8 Shenhe , Nilou and Alhaitham all are waiting for their re-run

​@@m3hrn_ of course they would put calamity queller and the key after I used my wishes on Clorinde

Furina also waiting on rerun, and I imagine she has priority. I expect Shen-he will finally rerun alongside Wriothesely earlier in version 5. Nilou not gonna show up again for a hooot minute. But who knows - depending on if the Dainsleif quest takes place in their region (could be Fontaine, Sumeru, or Mondstadt), we could see her and Alhaitham.

Genshin will have 4.8? More dry patches then

spit it out, arle or neuvillette?

@@lekoesicI wouldn’t put arle top 5 if that says anything

​@@FliponYT why is raiden so bad flip bro shes c3 and she does less damage than gaming

"See you in court" maybe? XD

​@@PulseDemon.Gaming has reactions on his side. Raiden doesn't really have any reactions that benefit her DPS directly. She's bad in aggravate since she does large but less frequent hits, and her damage is pure scaling as Chevreuse just uses overload as a medium to shred resistance and Furina gives damage bonus.

mobile is very easy and even more comfortable than pc at speed running if you are used to it!

Took me about a month to be better on my phone than pc even being a mostly pc gamer

It is soo simple when I switched I didn't even feel anything. Cause I did alot of mobile gaming before.

If it was a single character game I think I might be *better* on my phone, but I still can't get down swapping comfortably, I bungle it every time.

Moblie is easy for me

What should he afraid of? Mad Hu Tao mains? He wouldn't be there if he was lool

​@@arielmk7612keeping father above neuvillete is a thing to fear.

@@sachinarya6667 wdym exactly😅 he did say he's stronger no?

​@@arielmk7612Plus he said it's his opinion

Thiss! He could go hyperbloom with no furina, he also can go with kazuha and no furina. I 36* with neuv without furina

At C0, she still makes playing neuvillette easier cause she helps lower neuvillette's ER requirements compared to furinaless teams. It's also nice cause vv setups become easier

he needs furina

i never use furina with neuv and i never use bennet with my arlecchino. easy abyss 36. aint gonna tell me these units NEED those 2 supports to function that's cap.

@@wolfafe furina and bennet are upgrades to those 2 characters but i don't think anyone said that they *need* them to work

good point. to top off we have natlan coming up which will be gauranteed to have the definitive best pyro characters in the game judging by how recently, hoyo tends to release stronger characters to match their respective region. E.g. Neuv, furina for fontaine and Alhaitham, Nahida.

That's not even an argument for who is the best dps, which is the topic of this video. If you wanna talk meta changes and meta relevance, then yes.

on c2 arlecchino is one girl army ,perfect for quality of life

I wouldn't say he is the team, but he certainly is strong enough to the point where a team feels redundant to him But tbf, you could see how strong arlecchino truly is when people are comparing her with the best dps in the game instead of other pyro dps

arlecchino is just a side/downgrade, not really an upgrade

just clearing or 36-stars? Because I just wonder how a hydro DPS would get fast times against hydro shields/immunity and a pyro dps against pyro shields/immunity. On their own.

@@DiaborMagics 36 stars

@@HydraneousHadokenPent-Striker but how, when there are immunities?

He should’ve been 4th

i thought Scaramonkey 🦧 is stronger than Xiao

Stand proud, he deserves to be higher

@@lastorderx20001 I main him because i like charged attack carries (like ganyu and tighnari) and because i like how stylish is his bow when he uses E and blow the shit out of everything in the end. Specially when he says 'now disappear!' Also one other reason is that he gaves me a reason to use my dehya, because i also like her but she's not good on almost any other team.

he deserves bro

I dunno about 60k f2p but for sure usually I do 43k+ Arle doesn’t have better aoe she does more damage overall: single target or in AOE (assuming she hits them all which you’re right, you won’t always)

No c0 f2p Neuvilette is doing 60k get outta here

​@@JelloImpact nah, Arle doesn't deal more damage in aoe considering that they also need to be affected by hydro to deal more damage also she doesn't attack that fast when neuvi can deal more consistent damage across the board and has more range and aoe

​@@eruzblue7332 lol no, she literally does more damage than him in Aoe. It's just that her range is bit shorter. She'll hit all enemies around her for 100k+ Kazuha is one of her best teammates for that reason.

i agree!!

Definitely….

if you want to make the game interesting and hard well arle better

i agree with jello we cant decide yet who is better without new spiral and Arlecchino just out. As u said Arlecchino has higher damage so it is not a big issue to learn a new combat system. Arlecchino can heal herself too and can be used for AoE also single target. ARLECCHINO BEST F2P IS 3 STAR. Imo i have both I enjoy Neuvi a lot but my choice could differ in coming days and i can feel Arlecchino potential too.

Arle also heals herself completely, she works against single targets and AoE She has a great 3* f2p option Arle does more dmg, her not being braindead to play is not a negative, it’s engaging Not saying Neuvi is way worse than her but she is a better dps

Basically my thoughts as well.

shes def better than xiao tho no?

​@@boobtchnbetter if xiao and hutao has no xianyun ig

@@redmoon9618 Navia can use Xianyun too , I think her best team has xianyun - furina - chiori

​@@redmoon9618even then hutao has vv vape and her various double hydro teams. for xiao I'm not knowledgeable enough on his teams without xianyun but I'm sure bennett faruzan furina works just fine and actually gives him more output with the cost of circle impact

same man i was just thinking about this the other day

Haha bro being hyper as usual

Yeah I don’t have Furina and still 36 star abyss-he doesn’t need her at all.

its not even here come the hutao mains, this list is brain dead. how childe isnt even on the list is silly. how navia is somehow above hutao and lyney is stupid. and how raiden is even in this conversation is absurd.

⁠@@joustingknight2088literally everything was right except navia being top 4, it should’ve been xiao, although ur right about raiden not being a top 5 contender

@@ednatopg3074 xiao isnt better than lyney or hutao mate

@@joustingknight2088 yes he is mate, he should’ve been top 4 and navia a contender for top 5, his dpr is comparable to Neuvi at equal investment. Go watch TGS video on this, he even puts xiao on Al haitham level

@@ednatopg3074 im not arguing with that, xiao and alhaitham are similar, but in ST? huta, lyney and arlecchino do way more dmg its not even close

Navia at 4 makes sense because she doesn't really care who the supports are, which is in contrast to all the #5 spot contenders, and without being burst reliant. Better supports give better results but the floor with poor synergy is also high. Being based on crystallize means you get shields and thus interruption resistance while onfield so she feels neuvi c1 tanky while not being defensively focused. Her AoE is significantly worse than other choices but you have the team flexibility to work around it. She's probably gonna fall off soon after Clorinde and Natlan though.

the fact that people are comparing an HP scaler and an ATK scaler is the entertaining thing for me

Bro xiao mains are so smart nowdays. Back in the day we used to have to cope and mald in the back while xiao slowly becomes worse and worse and newer better characters come out. It seems with xiaos glow up we also got a glow up 😅

​@@pr0ntabi disgree because she has bad aoe and even though that can be circumvented, it wont suddenly make her as good as lyney or xiao in aoe. Also her damage. I dont know if all TCs just had bad navia sheets when she came out but thr sheets i saw a month agter she came iut had her with less damage than lyney, hu tao, xiao, neuv, arle basically everyone in this list except raiden.

@@putent9623 I wasn't claiming that she can scale as high as the other dps here and yea in practice she definitely doesn't. And I'm with you on the numbers and how Xiao has changed over time. My point was that her minimal investment _floor_ is way higher than all of the other DPS options except Neuvilette. Meaning it can help a new or struggling player get from not clearing floor 12 or needing help with weeklies to being able to do that themselves and making more account progress on their own. This is a pretty big deal for some people and a lot of Jello's logic for ranking DPS keeps that in mind. No one with our level of experience is watching these videos to prioritize who to pull, we want to hear the experience of a content creator who is doing a lot of team experimentation and contribute in the comments (hehe). I'm not defending her because I think she sheets better DPS, I'm defending her placement because she's way more casual account friendly and thus a higher value pull for the majority of players since they are all gonna be way more casual than us. Anyone can pull and have fun with Xiao but unless they put in the effort and get the right supports and artifacts and rotations down he won't feel good to play and then they'll give up. I don't want people to do that, feels bad man. So if they were on the fence I'm would push them towards the easy option until they get more experience. And by then ain't asking for advice anyway, you know? Sorry for the wall of text but I feel that many mains become defensive about a video like this and part of that could be because of tunnel vision, not knowing or forgetting what the experience is like for the majority of players, which in turn makes up the bulk of this video's audience.

The reason it is controversial is because everyone has different mains. Even I didn't like seeing Hu Tao below Al Haitham, but I don't have Al Haitham and therefore cannot comment on this.

@@yashtandon7460I have every character in here at minimum C0R1. If we’re not just talking damage output but ease of use as well on top of other benefits and assuming their best teams then Navia needs to get kicked out completely. Shouldn’t even be in this list. Hu Tao, Xiao, Neuvilette, Arlecchino, and Al Haitham are at the top.

Genshin makes really goos characters tbat people gets attached and defensive too. I have a special fondness for alhaitham wc is why i dont like people dumping on him. But i dont force people to like him.

​@@demestriu529 Hoyo really knows how to hype or get people attached to characters. In other gachas that can't hook players that well to characters, you can see creators and forums just talking about the thing with the highest stats for the month. The vibes of the community toward characters is very different. (Obsessing over a character rarely goes more than some fan art or shipping, and doesn't cross over as much to gameplay "meta".)

@@TerraTheWise Navia honestly feels pretty bad for 1 simple reason: Her damage is tied to a high CD E. And if you don't crit, she feels like a 3* character. Her damage per hit is great, but that is a pretty big downside.

natlan's gonna get a 5 star bennett so it's fine regardless

Or just go for ~C2-C3R1 and you "get the bennett buff" permanently without bennett. 👌

You seem to be the target Market Hoyo released Neuv for 👍🏻

​@@alexferrier5732and you're obviously one of the reasons why genshin community sucks 😂

They are both good, but for different scenarios. They even have similarities in their rotations: press E, do "teamwork is dreamwork", do charged attack, repeat... Arlechino overload is better against shields, Neuvilette is better in AoE scenarios and against some aggressive bosses.

@@alexferrier5732 you're saying this as if Arlecchino is hard to play, she's just normal attack spam bro

@@god9303 Arlecchino IS hard to play. Not because her kit is hard to understand, but because Bond of Life gets in the way of playing her comfortably. Sure, her rotations are easy coz u just need to do E, swap to other characters while waiting for 5 seconds, switch back to her to do charged attack, and then just do oongga boongga damage. But her inability to heal makes her hard to play especially if u don't have a shield character.

Ayaka 💀💀 not even close, 4th is xiao and 5th is navia

If you have Shenhe, Ayaka definitely feels like top 3 or 4. I don't have Shenhe 😭

wanderer is better than xiao lol

@@czarson6694 only people still saying this are wanderer fanboys 💀

@@ednatopg3074 that is not true lol, just look at the runs.

Agreed

We can kick out the feeble scholar and the crybaby put the short male model frauds

and people were saying hu tao better than arlecchino lmao

Navia is the 4th hands down Alhaitham and Arlecchino 3rd and 2nd And Neuvillette 1st by far

Navia is just built diff. You can rotate your hyperbloom team while her 150k E is on downtime. Proto-amber Neuv on the other hand, heals and carries the team lmao.

Navia overrated

​@@putent9623 underrated imo

​@@putent9623 underrated for sure, barely talked about

i have tested mine today on a few bosses and it was delightful to see those juicy 145-160k per plunge❤ however with Zhongli instead of Furina cuz i don't have her. i think hes still one of the best dps's and nobody will make me think differently. best boy forever❤

i agree with u since im a mobile player too

she carries my team nd i love her even more

Fr tho, when the abyss stops having enemies that give him his stacks for free like the pyro abyss mage and the flying orbs his damage falls off drastically

@@ammarnk9260 for neuvillette? U do realize that’s not the only elementally infused enemies right? And it’s not his fault hydro reacts with so many elements. When abyss becomes rifthound/consecrated beast. What will arleMains cope with? ER build arle? 😭

​​@@chimilicitypjm459its a 60 cost burst. Just whack the enemies a couple of times and youre good. 125 ER is more than enough. Alternatively, everything just dies with this character before they have the chance of being a problem. Her damage is so massive and frontloaded that you being a glass cannon doesnt matter when you're actually firing uranium grapeshot at the enemies and instantly killing them.

​@@chimilicitypjm459the heck ya sayin? The new event vibro crystal fight has rifthound and my C0 arlec team blast them easily without dying at x10 multiplier extreme mode. I intentionally give the wrong buff just so that I know how strong my base team and they still easily get 5k score. Arlec is cracked second only to Neuvi, both of them didn't have Energy issue.

@@chimilicitypjm459 Arlemains motto is and always will be "kill them before they kill you".

They also don't have great constellations. On the one hand it's nice that Xiao is basically as good as he'll ever be at c0. But if you're chasing a support on his banner later to vertically invest that feels bad man...

@@pr0ntab c1 for exploration TRUE

This is what i mentioned to my friend the other day. Old characters have c1s that make them a little easier to use or a little more survivable. Fontaine dps have a c1 description that is a game changing paragraph about how you will now plow your enemies with the force of 1000 suns after they were already quite good at c0. The constellation and investment powercreep is the most obvious.

I found Hu to be very good to invest in. Honestly I think that goes to other characters imo. I'm looking right at Nahida

Which one do you recommend/prefer alhaitham or arlechino?

@@ffdzyyalhaitham is a much better generalist. dendro at base is a much better and more flexible element than pyro, and it will be favored in almost all content. his damage is more consistent, and his negatives aren’t as glaring as arlecchino’s

@@ffdzyy I would recommend Neuvillete who is stronger than both of them. Arle and Al are pretty much equal and I can't recommend, it doesn't matter, depending on situations one can do more than the other. I would say Arlechino is stronger because her personal damage is 80 to 120k while Alhaitham's personal damage is 80 to 100K team as better as he can run Nahida,Furina,Yelan,Kuki(and Kuki brings 60K). The ones below are pretty apparent Navia,Hutao,Ayaka. I would say Alhaitham requires more investment compared to Arlechino, So if you want to pull one, get Arlechino, but Alhaitham teams won't be inferior to Arlechino's.

Should they make a video for every kind of account or what? Should they not express how much they like Furina's versatility? Also, Furina isn't required anywhere, but yes, you need a handful of good characters to make a good team, especially 2 and furina is one of the best characters out there. Or just skip abyss and do whatever feels right in ow. I don't do abyss. ¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯

@@emiki6 if you're making a "top DPS" video, it shouldn't be a "top DPS (*IN FURINA TEAMS ONLY)", but rather by their own merit and by what they bring to any suitable team.

@@SimonClericThere's obviously multiple different teams these characters work with but since this video is about the best of the best it's clear that Furina will be in a lot of those teams because she's just that good. Also you saying "but rather their own merit and by what they bring to any suitable team," is silly. This is a team game, it's meaningless to compare characters by themselves. Also, Jello can't talk about every suitable team cause that would make an hours long video. And it goes without saying that you don't need Furina. Genshin is an easy game so she can be replaced.

Fontain 4 stars suck

​@@mordakie3805Except Chevreuse, she single-handedly made overload teams become relevant again.

@@Kalavalsar true true

@@Kalavalsar how good is Chevy

@@stressedhaish69420 Not constellation-dependent (C0 is functional, at C6 she's on another level as she gives 60% electro & pyro dmg bonus, much bigger buff than Kazuha’s), she basically acts like VV for electro & pyro units only but she can maintain the res shred all the time without needing her to be on the field as long as you keep triggering overload reaction, and most importantly, easy to build. She just needs 40k HP, don't bother to level up her talents except perhaps her skill for the healing.

wanderer is really strong better than hu tao as damage in a proper team but has a requirement not many can get and its faruzan c6

Yeah this is exactly what I was thinking. Navia is quite good but since he hates Wanderer he hasn’t invested enough to see his potential. And since he loves Navia he’s invested and spent way more time. I think it’s more obvious when you consider he gave an honorable mention to Raiden, when Wanderer’s scalings are just mathematically higher, and his buffers are just stronger.

Wanderer shouldnt even be considered when Xiao is way better

it is imo, doing 80k constently is more efficient

i have both, but arle with her sig. my neuv is more efficient but then again her talents are stuck at level 8 so we’ll have to see.

It is lol, people are blind because arle is the new shining toy. Objectively neuvillette team feels better than hers. She's good for sweaty gamers who likes challenges though

@@netizen8080its better to give it time yk but i do agree with you

F2P Neuvilette is harder to play efficiently. He needs his 3 stacks, VV shred and elem bonus to do big damage, that is, bigger than 20k per tick. Messing up his team rotation is a dps loss for him.

Lyney

Agree. Neuvi and alhaitham still 1 and 2

Put lyney instead of hu tao. Then fair list.

Xiao>hu Tao

Xiao > Hutao, Alhaithem, even Arle

Ooooo nice idea. Maybe if someone is ded and the pyro archon does burst, the person ded is revived and has a buff for an amount of time. If no one is ded, then pyro archon does something else.

Or it could be like the Bailout mechanic for Renata Glasc in LoL, where a character who is supposed to die gets a brief second chance to get a kill, and if they get a kill they get to stay alive and not die.

Lore wise Neuvi gets clapped by Arlecchino, The top 3 Fatuis, Skirk, The Foul, the heavenly principles and many more. Neuvilette at full power is a bit below the 5E traveler according to his Climax voice lines and the 5E traveler got one GLANCED by Arlecchino. Read your lore before talking nonsense.

@@ammarnk9260 lel, arle simps are really braindead

​@@yep456 Lol calling someone braindead because they don't agree with your headcanons is insane.

​​​​@@ammarnk9260 you just also described yourself you Arlechinno simp lmao cause the thing you said is only your headcanon, also stop spreading misinfo, Dottorre said the "Top 3 Harbingers" are comparable to the archons note "Top 3" Doesn't even includes Arlechinno who is Top 4 and btw Neuvillette is a Hydro Sovereign which is the 2nd or 3rd most powerful beings in Teyvat besides The Primordial one. Also Archons are much weaker then Sovereigns since their gnosis comes from them. Also Neuvillette was the one doing all the work fighting the Narwhal not traveller, Do your research first buddy before you spaz any kind of bs

​@@eruzblue7332 read your lore probably. Neuvilette doesn't even compare to the traveler from his own voicelines when ascending. Go dickride somewhere else.

Please no. I am getting flash backs to the fanwars on twitter now. -__-" And it'd be a literal insult to him to call him an Archon. XD He hates what they represent as the chosen reps of Celestia on Teyvat. LOL

It would be an insult to him, so there is no need. is better than an archon

His power is way above archons but it's okay 🩷

@@natalies8498why? Being an archon is so cool, thats why everyone pulls for them. Read the lore.

@@Personpersonpersonperson I DO read the lore, which is why I said he'd consider it an insult. He may have no issues with them as individuals, but he clearly hates what archonhood represents - as he considers them beings that betrayed the old world in siding with the usurpers and fighting for what the usurpers offered them. (I personally love the Archons as well and have no issues with [most] of them. Nahida is my other favorite character.)

I’m of the mind to say that Navia deserves it 😂 but I’m biased bc she’s one of my mains and her plunge team numbers are insane

​@@MugWitchcurrent abyss is really good for her i use her in 2nd half... And she's very strong...but a hutao and xiao with their best teams is stronger

@@soujiokita6062 eh fair! I really don’t have the experience with those two to fairly compare which is why I mentioned I’m biased. I don’t enjoy playing as Hu Tao or Xiao at all even though I did try back in the day. But I will admit that I wasn’t as well researched at that time, and they both felt way more fragile at C0 and without their signatures than was worth playing for the sake of the damage output.

true navia over Xiao or hutao is pretty wild, I'd personally put them in the order of hutao Xiao navia due to hutao having more team flexibility than xiao. Navias frontload is great though.

I'd argue and say hydro isn't really an element made for on field dps, but I agree with the rest. He has a lot if not too many going for Interruption resistance (not entirely immunity because apparently the chamber 3 second half boss can knock him out) Big attacking radius while being a ranged character Self healing Easier access to his dmg (not necessarily so compared to arlecchino, but certainly is compared to pretty much the rest) Essentially, he's a dps character that not only has a lot going for in his kit, he also has some of the highest dps that apply in practice (instead of just in theory) while having pretty much no drawback of any form. Arlecchino while having higher dps in practice and actually having more developing potential in the future believe it or not, she has obvious drawbacks that none of us can overlook So yeah currently it is fair to say neuvillette is the number 1 dps character in the game (at C1R1 tho). We'll have to see how it goes in the future tho, because I believe arlecchino has the potential to surpass him. This game is a team game after all. But, until arlecchino's potential has come to fruition, he'll remain the best for the time being

Cult of TGS pog

@@JelloImpact can't even be angry at you, sorry man i can be a bit harsh. Honestly you such a chill dude that now i feel bad XD.

Tbh the comparison doesn't make any sense, they do different things in different ways. So yeah, you have a reason to feel bad. 😅

Jesus Christ, bro is glazing like his life depends on it

@@ammarnk9260 not glazing anything, just stating the obvious which you refuse to acknowledge with your rose colored lenses

you have a more bulshit tier list than him 😂🎉👊

310K is C2 Xianyun levels of damage so I don’t think that’s a good reference.

@@TerraTheWise Fair I guess? But I was pushing 250 with c0 Xianyun so the point still stands that he does far more damage as an aoe unit than most do in ST. Also, Xianyun IS Xiao’s vertical investment. When people talk about clears with Hu Tao, she’s usually C1R1 as a baseline. For Raiden hyper, most assume C2. Xiao’s cons are worthless and his sig is a standard banner pull. I don’t think assuming vertical inv on his specialized support is unreasonable

Navia is better by far My Navia with furina and zhongli and bennet and her weapon does 500k shots

@@skylight0237 brother Navia has two shots lol

@@pankace3296 What I’m getting at is most comparisons will assume C0 as the baseline. It kind of throws a wrench in things when you add constellations into the equation like that because 99% of the player base don’t have these and can’t relate so it’s unrealistic.

I'm not, in fact I KNOW she's good. I main both. Though I can say what made most Hu Tao mains upset is people saying that Hu Tao is ass or she fell off or no longer meta. Because clearly as we've seen here alone that's not true. She's just not the best pyro dps anymore. But she's still top three for pyro and top 5 for dpses in the game. Like generally Im just someone who enjoys the game and doesn't like meta because it ruins the experience. But I'm also someone who doesn't like it when people act like a character has no use anymore. Honestly. I'd like it more if no one cared about any of that and just played the game and enjoy it. ^_^

Lmao one of her best weapons is a 3star white tassel what are you even talking about my guy? 💀

​​@@ammarnk9260 did you know that not everyone has Bennett and she doesn't work with 1.2k atk?💀💀 And even fewer people has white tessel, + the passive buff isn't even neraly comparable to a bp weapon or any 5*. It's like saying that Hu Tao is insane with black tessel cuz it gives hp