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Except Emby still blows it out of the water, especially on the client side of things.......

@@Turbojugend27 Yeah, if I could have the Emby frontend with the Plex backend (Filtering faster, better scanning processes, etc.) that would be sth

@@Turbojugend27 the only reason I don’t use emby is the restriction of clients not users . I can’t control who signs in and I can’t see what devices or have that control.

Haha is that what happened to Emby? The dude pissed off a bunch of devs on Reddit and they decided to eat his lunch? xD People never learn from the lessons in history. Never taunt and goad smart, determined people into a d!ck measuring contest lol

Yeah, What kills it for me is the offline viewing, loose internet, it'll work for a day or 2 then its nope can't view your own content! The whole point of me setting up a media server is to have something to watch when the net goes down, and it happens often, country life ya know, So I do have Jellyfin running in a VM on my TrueNAS server just for that reason alone, If Jellyfin gets better or even if they introduce a pay model, I'd have no issues ditching Plex, the way Plex sets things up is a reason I wont support them, its like paying for a giant ad, since ya know it wont default to displaying what you have hosted, just further confuses some people.

Yea, I was looking through some old files, and found things like "plex theme" from the days when plex belonged to the user (buyer), and you could modify it's appearance amongst other customizations. All in all, Plex was there when nothing else was, so I'm happy to be using it for these past 10 years. It's inevitable for things to come along and take a fresh approach to a solution, so onward the journey continues.

@@d1ddyp0p I would say media playback should be free. Media should have a cost.but pirates.

Interesting - I'm a lifetime Plex Member basically for as long as Plex has lived.... but also think the progress has stagnated and that they are not listening to the community. Going to start checking this out to be honest.

@@PeterKocic It's very much worth it. You can stand up a Jellyfin instance alongside Plex and point it at the same media folders Plex is using, it maintains its own metadata database just like Plex does, so it won't mess up any of Plex's stuff. But IMO, Plex basically doesn't care about the "home media server" aspect anymore, they're solely focused on Plex TV, as they just aren't improving the home streaming aspect that got Plex to be the juggernaut it became. Jellyfin loads media faster, has better playback options, etc. Plex's only real advantage is ubiquity, and certain clients being better. Like... any Smart TV will have Plex on it but not necessarily Jellyfin, but if you use a dedicated streaming device like Shield Pro, AppleTV+, FireStick, Rokku, etc, that doesn't matter as Jellyfin is on all of them. But the Plex apps for iOS and Android seem to have better codec support than the Jellyfin ones, although for Jellyfin Infuse on iOS is great (even if it costs like $100 for a lifetime license... I don't have an AppleTV or I might buy it, as I don't like watching stuff from my phone or tablet anyway). But on a device that has full codec support like the Nvidia Shield Pro and with proper settings (e.g., the Jellyfin app on Android TV defaults to using an inferior player, so change it to libvlc which will Direct Play basically anything), Jellyfin runs circles around Plex IMO.

Jellyfin's UI is a lot more customizable than Plex's... which basically isn't customizable at all. Plex's UI looks archaic at this point.

@@praetorxyn Plex's UI is customisable. But i guess it depends what you mean by customisable. For example with plex, you can change what appears on the home screen, i,e which library's appear and in which order you prefer. You can also add various suggestions of varying types and categories. So i would disagree with the statement that Plex isn't customisable at all. Also I dont know how often you last used Plex, but it is far from archaic. It is very modern and has a lot of great new UI tools

I agree plex ui is beautiful jelly looks like a typical linux ui

I actually feel the exact opposite, interestingly enough. I recently switched from plex to jellyfin, and IMO plex’s interface is way too cluttered, and Jellyfin is simple and just plain works without all the unnecessary crap all around the UI

​​@@ArizonaJewell agree plex is clustered after initial install, but it is super super easy to just remove the extra rubbish from your home screen and side bar. Mine only shows my actual content and I don't even see the plex owned stuff and the UI is clean and modern, the Jellyfin UI doesn't look modern

and it brakes something with every update

@@francisnorthwood7862 Not in my experience, never had an issue in the many years I'm using it.

@dskoul just sharing my experience with Plex over the past 4 years. If you don't care why even bother speaking up?

@dskoul "Dude", it literally compares Jellyfin to Plex in the video title and the video itself starts with Logan talking about Plex in case you haven't even noticed. lol

@dskoul If you didn't care, why did you reply? Seems like you do care.

"Older computer" Lol, my actual gaming rig is worse.

@@3STYLER hahaha your right it's still fairly capable even though I've upgraded them now, but they are both kind of special to me. The 8700k is the first CPU I've delidded with LM and the 1080 was my first GPU when I got into pc gaming.

I had jellyfin setup on a Phenom II x3 B75, I had a GTX 1070 in it so if it needed to transcode, the 1070 took that load, worked well, Free version of Plex wouldn't work well on it if it needed to transcode, not enough CPU lol.

If I didn't have a Plex license already I wouldn't buy one now. The only real advantage Plex has over Jellyfin is ubiquity. Basically every smart TV or smart TV device (e.g. Fire Stick, Roku, etc) is going to have a Plex app, but for example my LG C8 from 2019 does not have a Jellyfin app (but apparently the newer ones running webOS 6 do, and the older webOS 5 TVs like mine will have a Jellyfin app eventually, according to a July update). But if you have a client with proper Jellyfin support like the Nvidia Shield Pro, AppleTV+, etc. and you set it up properly, Jellyfin runs circles around Plex IMO. On the storage, it's probably a little late after 5 months, but it depends on how much of it gets cut into for redundancy. I run RAID 10 in my NAS for both redundancy and speed, and thus my 48 TB is cut down to about 22 TB usable, but I'm glad I did it as I had my first ever drive failure a month or two ago and was able to replace the drive and rebuild the storage pool with no data loss because of it.

@@praetorxyn I'm using UnRaid. Thats a JBOD system. As it stands, I'm using 1 disc for parity right now. I'll probably upgrade the system down the line when its outgrown my modded SAMA IM01 case and I'll put together a rack when I get around to wiring my house. Jellyfin support was fine by me since my TV has access to Jellyfin app.

I do the bottom one for Films but TV Shows tend to be Basic. TV Show\TV Show - S01E01.mkv Films tend to be Movie 2000\Movie - 1080P - 7.1 Atmos - 2000.mkv

Library scans take such a long time in Jellyfin, many times longer than Plex. I like open source SW, but when it is so far behind, I will not sacrifice the ease of use.

Tbh I'm still a KODI user. If not for the streaming aspect of Plex, I feel KODI does everything better.

I agree entirely. Plex is FAR ahead in terms of look, feel, content matching, apps, and delivery. Jelly is nice, but it ain't there yet.

@@andrebraitI'm with you there, Kodi is literally 8,000 times better than anything else out there.

Plex can't even play videos reliably.

use subscene

It definitely is a solid alternative even with its issues, But its also free so ya know, they do take their time to fix things as well, it super easy to have people setup on their TV's, but if they forget their login, you will have to reset their password, and Jellyfin works offline all the time, Plex don't unfortunately. Plex does transcode better/faster as well with less resources. I had to give Jellyfin a break, I was using it for about a year but its sorta buggy and needs rebooted often, so I use Jellyfin as a backup and for offline viewing since my internet isn't the most reliable thing. Plex just works for me, although its also annoying in different ways.

Is that with iptv?

5 seonds to update Plex in docker! Super easy.

Use Docker... I have a cron job that updates Plex every day, but I've recently spun up a Jellyfin instance and haven't looked at Plex since other than to compare it. Jellyfin runs circles around it IMO, and I've been a lifetime Plex pass user for years. Plex just doesn't care about the whole "home media server" thing anymore, only about Plex TV.

Jellyfin on qnap nas in a docker seems to cost 5€, so its not free, or did I look in the wrong place?

@@stafvh5783 you definitely did. Docker containers don't cost anything. Maybe your looking at a qpkg. Open a terminal and run a docker pull on the image.

@@turret_sindrone tnx

I use emby since media browser and I never had problems with update. I just updated hardware and windows. Though I'm curious and will look at Jellyfin

Give Jellyfin time. it is free open source, so it take time to become perfect app. With few years using it, i saw so many features added in the Jellyfin :)

Either. It plays the original at home... But you can configure it to use ffmpeg and do all kinds of advanced stuff.

It works great remotely and I even have it mapped to a domain using ddns. Plus you get all the features so I much prefer it for remote connections.

@Tek Syndicate Yeah, admittedly I don't access it outside my LAN or have any remote users so I can't exactly comment on performance, though I assume it's fine (when your upload isn't 1.5mbps, lol). My comments on the best usecase (local vs. remote) mostly stem from the fact that Jellyfin's native clients vary wildly in development. Anecdotally, I haven't had many issues with Android TV, but the Roku and Firestick apps are missing many features and crash semi-frequently. The plugin for Kodi is more available and reliable, but the responsiveness and feel of the UI varies per device. As I said in my original comment, I hope that the state of Jellyfin's clients continue to improve because it seems to be the biggest obstacle to potential adopters. In the near future I doubt it'll be much of a contest, but for now it's very much decided on a case-by-case basis.

@@lyingriotman2220 I also prefer it for multiple users because they are easily managed from the admin panel... I can have tons of users... and they can access it from wherever... and they can have different perms and different folder access... and their recently played/resume list is unique. It's really handy for that.

I despise what Plex has become, because of money from the studios, and what it's eventually going to become. I didn't even know that they put personal media libraries behind a paywall now. I was recently setting up Plex clients for a few people, and it's just disgusting. A huge list of streaming services that can be integrated into it. Stupidity. It's already on a black box or smart TV that has those apps, so why add Plex as a layer in between? I found with one client that it was impossible to remove the free Plex content from the side menu. What's the point of me giving people access then if they can just watch it there? I despise their attitude, that people who paid for it aren't customers. If I need support for something I've paid for, I'm at the mercy of their attitude. I loathe their attitude towards file naming. It's geared towards the naming conventions of pirated content, but shhh about any of that. Mockingjay parts 1 and 2, gotta put a year behind those file names, or they WILL be joined into 1 entry. There is a timer, so if I want to fall asleep to a show, and have the sound keep me asleep, it's impossible. People have been asking for an option to disable it for years now, and nothing. Their attitude about transcoding and the formats they choose to use is insanity. No, don't stream AC3, when every device out there can actually play it. Randomly bounce around between AAC, MP3, and OPUS. Don't let me choose the audio format to transcode to. If you have interlaced content and can't directly play it, it turns into 30 progressive frames per second (or 25 for PAL). They don't bob de-interlace it to the full field rate. It's only a matter of time before they pull the plug on personal media altogether.

Wait, what ads?

Depends how old your talking about. H.264 has been supported since the old HD 7000 series that came out a decade ago. and You'll need at least 300 card for H.265 transcoding. Expect for the current RX 6500XT, it does not have encoding enabled.

I totally agree, I think he is basically calling it better because it's "Free". I would rather pay folks for their hard work when it works, Emby is easily imo the best we have and is constantly evolving, who knew we needed a simply thing like knowing when what we are watching will finish haha. Emby is doing gods work and it simply works

Yeah, I discovered that when trying to download media to take on a plane... that's what got me started with the switch.

I too am a plex user (paid) and it's just part of my day, I have it set up with the arr apps so it's pretty seamless! I used to use Kofi but I found that I was spending more time tinkering and trying to get stuff to work than I was enjoying the content, so I made the switch. I love supporting open source project so I think that I'll give Emby and Jeolyfin a try