The only person in the room dumber than Mrs. Crumbley is Mrs. Crumbley's lawyer.

She still has zero accountability in her mind wow

The attorney of Jennifer Crumbley is a detriment to her client. Her behavior, delivery, and arguments simply emphasize self-entitlement and blame-shifting. This is one case where the client would have done better representing themself.

Never took her son to a therapist in all his years.

His mother...still NO accountability! He was telling you he was hearing voices and having hallucinations! At a minimum they should have taken him to professionals so THEY could confirm or not, that his statements were fake. His parents just choosing to decide that for him, was COMPLETELY irresponsible!

14:32 Good on Judge for calling b.s. on defense rhetoric.

She needs to take responsibility for the part SHE played in these murders.

Her entire statement can be summarized as “It’s anyone’s fault but ours, but especially not mine.” All of this time, after everything that has happened, and she didn’t learned a thing.

The father asked for time served! I am shocked to hear such nonsense.

She’s unique!!!! She can shoot it, carry it and store it in the trunk but she CANNOT lock it. The 10 seconds is tooooo HARD.

She has gained wisdom of power to forgive ..the prosecution ?????? You've got to be kidding me. She really should not have gone there. Lost all credibility

Jennifer has no remorse and her lawyer is beyond disrespectful and has no empathy for these families, I can’t continue to listen to her.

Shut up Shannon!!! Worst lawyer EVER! She makes me need a drink!!! I love the way the judge is basically saying "shut up" in more polite words

How did her lawyer approve this pathetic statement ?

They both act like they’re SO INNOCENT!! Please!

Quick reminder - these 'parents', as soon as their kid was arrested, went on the lam. They ran away. Basically, *they ditched their own son.* They booked it to Detroit, possibly on their way to Windsor, Ontario, Canada. The Detroit police department received a tip from a business owner, and arrested them. *There was no indication that the Crumbleys had planned to surrender.*

Jennifer never addressed why she didn't tell the school that Ethan was given a gun, that fact could have saved lives that day.

The trials are over, and the jury found them both guilty. Why did the lawyer keep babbling! Shut up and go, please.

I wish Jennifer’s atty would stop talking. She is trying to start this trial all over again.

Master class in how to NOT take responsibility for one’s actions even while shuffling your way to prison. She will never get it.

Jennifer Crumbley’s attorney appears to be unprepared; what’s wrong with this woman?

The fact the school notified them of the concerning behavior as well as parents having access to all grades shows she's still lying to refuse accountability for her ooor parenting.

SHE KNEW he was SICK and she just ignored him for her own selfish self.

Neither one of the parents are truly remorseful nor do they take any responsibility for how they enabled their son while ignoring the warning signs--they both blame others for what happened. It's sickening.

Find it hard to understand why the lawyer is allowed to try to re-argue the case after the client has been convicted by a jury. Neither the lawyer nor Mrs. Crumbley are willing to accept facts proven in court.

Still not taking responsibility. Disgusting.

She still has no remorse. She’s reading that like a programmed machine. Still doesn’t take responsibility for her part and tries shifting the blame o the school. Give her the max!!!!!!!

Imagine she doesn't see she was at fault for anything, she is blaming the school as if the school bought the gun or as if the school was responsible for safe guarding the school, as if the kids that got kill was just an unfortunate coincidence and nothing more, that woman is sick, both of them are monsters

Loves her family so much...she blames the husband and son... now thats a mothers love right there

Lawyer for Mrs Crumbly is trying to retry the case at sentencing...dit down counselor your making it worse for your client damn. 😅

Lawyer speaks - lawyer makes IT WORSE.

Still Blaming others.

Still blaming everyone but themselves. Sit in there and think about it, y’all have plenty of time.

Judge already knows what she is going to do!! Shut up. Blame someone else?????

Shut up Shannon...you are NOT helping!!

First off it should have been 10 to 15 per life lost. And 5 to 7 for those injured. These people took ZERO accountability for anything ignoring all the warning signs their kid obviously showed. Then when they had an opprotunity to do something right they ran and hid in a warehouse in Detroit. Handed their kid a gun rather then get involved in their sons life and his problems. Neither of the 3 should see the light of day

This lawyer is clueless. Her client is a monster. No raising a school shooter couldn't happen to every parent. Less discuss how Jennifer met her lover in the afternoon of day her son shot up the school.

Still not taking accountability for anything ....sad very sad.theses parents were not around for there son...to busy with themselves and there own lives.parenting is sooooooo hard. But your son suffered immensely and due to his actions looked how many people are suffering. And you can deny till your blue in the face that you didn't know what was going on with your son .....

She still doesn't get it. He came across Much more sympathetic

The lawyer for Jennifer is either untrained or not very good..Her remarks were not appropriate at all,nor correct...I hope someone that is actually falsely accused does not choose her to defend them...very unprofessional...

And still, she does not get it. She was a normal parent and it could have happened to any of us? No, girl. I would never have left a child begging not to be alone alone to go play with horses. Most good parents wouldn’t. Full sentence deserved, even though she’s still clueless.

When Jennifer had to back up around 8:10 because she forgot to read the "most important part" and it's that she should be forgiven. I'm glad that she's going to have at least a decade to re think her decisions. It galls me to think that this is where she's at in terms of taking responsibility after 3 years behind bars.

This is probably the last time the Crumbleys will see each other for a long time.

Me, me, me!! Wow! How to pretend this isn't your fault! And take absolutely no accountability. Shows exactly why their son did it.

I"m trying to understand how one gets past the fact that not being an attentive parent, substituting a gun, with violent undertones, instead of jumping into your childs life with both feet, is a travesty. You let down the Parents of the Children Murdered, The parents of the other school children, and most of all Your Son, who was damaged beyond recognition because you were too busy, with other things. How many more parents like you, at your age, are out there, with kids who will set their sights on Murdering other children simply because they are happy, and your kid is not.

These parents are in COMPLETE DENIAL! Jennifer saying her son seemed so normal. NOT! He needed help! She wasn’t there for him. They were both totally irresponsible and for Jennifer to say she’s an average, good parent, she must live on a different planet!!!!

I’m so glad the judge is correcting Shannon

The fact that they are arguing that they were "hamstrung" and that evidence wasn't allowed in just shows that they truly do not believe what they are saying. They have no remorse for the families and victims, they only care about themselves. Trying to blame everyone else instead of taking responsibility is disgusting! They should put themselves in the victim's shoes and really try hard and think of what justice would look like for them... They are absolutely culpable in this horrible and tragic situation, they bought the gun and let Ethan have full access to that gun, PERIOD. Their lives will go on with their son alive and at some point down the road will be able to communicate with him, they unfortunately will never get that opportunity. When reading a statement to address the victims and the court nobody wants to hear the "but!" I'm sorry, I feel terrible, but... To ask for time served and probation "as long as you deem necessary" takes balls and is absolutely INSANE!!! SMFH 🤦‍♂️💯

Jennifer's statement is worth less than 0%

No matter what they knew or didn't know, the gun was not secured. It is time that all gun owners understand that they can be held responsible if their unsecured gun is taken and misused. It is a new day.

James, what about you threatening the prosecution? It’s hard to believe whatever you say.

I started to watch both parents impact statements. It wasn't about the lost innocent souls and the remaining victims. These lawyers still never offered one bit of empathy to the family's. She pats Crumbley on the back of the head. I watched the victims impact statement in the Nasser case. Shannon Smith should be bared from trying law

Better apologize you're going to prison for along time.

Denial. Intent is not required for GROSS negligence. No foresight required to follow instructions and lock gun with lock provided. 10 seconds. They knew immediately he was the shooter. Zero acknowledgement of any role or responsibility. Hope she serves 15. Blame everyone else. The victims are also not the persons they were. Narcissism meets its end.

She’s blatantly been told to say she would definitely do things differently.when she was asked during her trial if she would do anything different and she said no,that was what disgusted everyone.her poor son was crying out for help and they totally neglected him even down to taking him to a dentist,he had a mouthful of cavities.we will never know if they had got him the help he was crying out for would those innocent kids still be here She’s still not taking responsibility she deserves to be in prison and so does that simpering sorry excuse of a father

i still think this could have been planned - like to have such an incompetent lawyer so she can appeal on grounds of ineffective council

Seems Jennifer's attorney is trying to retry the case!

I’m sorry I thought this was sentencing not retrying the case

The Crumbley’s are the worst of us. Put them UNDER the jail.

Blame game!!!

Two text book examples of why we should implement laws that force people to take courses and pass a parenting exam before having children. This is what happens when unfit people have kids... That young man never stood a chance. Sad.

I would have liked to have seen more concern for the damage inflicted on her son at the age of 15 years s old when he was asking her for mental help and being ignored. Both of these parents appear to care more about themselves than their son so sad.

He's a coward and refusing responsibility to the bitter end--inflicting trauma on all the families again. He's in for a wake up call once he's released from prison. He won't be able to live in peace under the radar. We will not forget.

The mom's eyes had this emptiness about them and the erie flatness of her voice, i cant put my finger on it, but there's something way off about this chick

Wow. Not a single shred of accountability

The police got it right! The District Attorney got it right! The Jury got it right! The Judge got it right! Tate Myre, 16; Hana St. Juliana, 14; Madisyn Baldwin, 17; and Justin Shilling, 17. young lives mattered….plus the other seven people injured matters! Then add the their surviving family members, community and student body of Oxford…. you made countless victims! All because you ignored your son, period! First responders ran toward these precious people while you drained bank accounts and ran from your son and the law!! I will continue to pray for these families and hope to God they can find some level of peace and healing.

This wonderful woman chose to buy and board horses instead of buying insurance for Ethan so he could have mental health help. She is really playing the victim.

Whiny defense attorneys who failed at their job don’t do their clients any favors.

Damn This lawyer is despicable

The lawer keeps trying to retry the whole case.

She still is trying to blame other people 🙈🙈🙈🙈I just can’t with her!!! And, her attorney, nails on a chalk board😳😳😳😳. Her whining voice is over the top😏😏😏

i have been waiting rather impatiently for someone to call out jennifer’s defense attorney. i am living for it

I want to hear her admit her fault in the tragedy. She is still saying she had no clue about her son.

She is being ridiculous. It didn’t just happen overnight. You could tell by looking at her house.

The parents and the school bear a lot of responsibility for this travesty. I don’t really believe this man. The woman’s statement just blames the school. I can’t believe her lawyer let her say some of the crap she said about hating the prosecutor.SMH! They should have gotten more time!!!

The fact that Jennifer could not stand to read her statement tells me that her message is not from deep within her soul. She might as well have been reading a novel. James statement was stronger and more heartfelt. James definitely has a conscience, Jennifer does not.

I heard jennifer didnt wanna do her time in prison....she wanted to do her time at her lawyers home hahahah

The parents want to blame the school. The school officials want to blame the parents. As an outside observer, I blame both parents & school. School is hiding behind some bogus state immunity. I hope that the lawyers for the grieving families find a way around that. Of course, I am not blaming every employee of the school or district. I am blaming the people who were in that meeting regarding the violent graffiti on the math paper. Between all those people in that room, I think that it is criminally negligent that neither Ethan's bookbag nor locker were searched before sending him back to class.

Her lawyer ‘s hand motions are almost as distracting as her arguments!

His heart pours out to everyone of them now that he knows he’s about to go to prison for the next 10 to 15 years. Did he find Jesus too? 😂

The son is getting the help he needs now! Someone is talking to him... Thats what he wanted ..was someone to hear he wanted help! Shannon is retrying the case

Well she had time to rest up and the defense is still flailing.

I honestly wonder about the intellectual level of the patents. I don't mean psychotic. But it's pretty clear they have no clue vis-a-vis how to parent. Freedom and rights being what they are, there's no way to prohibit couples that are deemed to be horrible parenting material from having kids, and that's probably as it should be. Just devastating though to see the wreckage, that standard parenting interaction would have precluded😮

Jennifer: Blaming Ethan and everybody else; and not taking any accountability. She deserves prison.

Apparently she has not taken any responsibility at all.

They cant speak to their kids ...ever!!

Is she blaming the school? I am shocked. As a teacher, I am furious. Behaviour and emotions are parents responsibility! We help. But it is parents’ job!

The Crumbleys sound totally apathetic.

No, this couldn't just happen to anyone. There's no guns in my house.

why the fk do you casre how the public perceive your client? a narc lawyer for a narc client...fkn joke

Jennifers “wanna be lawyer” gave a terrible statement.

The words from Jennifer disgust me. Her rolling her eyes when Hanna was speaking. Pretty pathetic. Glad they both get 10 - 15 yrs. Those broken hearts of the families that will never again hug their kids. My heart hurts for them. I pray for healing for the families.

He had insomnia! He asked you for help! He texted you advising you he was seeing demons! You remained at the stables! It’s perplexing that you chose to ignore his cries for help. Ethan was totally on his own!

You know what we really need here? Is for our government to be held accountable, jailed for what they have done to our society and the HELL our children have endured because of their greed and corruption!!

Lets hear from really bad parents.

She found God wow , God would’ve told her to keep it simple, apologize for your lack of insight and vigilance instead of blaming everyone else but you and your husband after all you are the ones bought your son the gun

She is the worst attorney I have ever seen. She hasn’t learned a thing since her last performance.

Dumb lawyer, she rumbles on and on so unprofessional...Jennifer Crumbly parents wasted money on this lawyer!!! Jennifer could have represented herself much better!!!

Sit down Shannon! You lost!!! Accept it Omg!!! 😂

omg her lawyer is BRUTAL