Jerry Garcia Band - Shining Star 11-19-1993 BEST EVER

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Jerry Garcia Band - Shining Star 11-19-1993
BEST EVER

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@gregosbo8921 21 күн бұрын

Those who understand how special this music is are lucky. Jerry stands uniquely alone among the greats. His own style, his own way.

@jwarhawk23 3 жыл бұрын

I was standing right in front of him this whole show. Tripping balls. He looked into my eyes many times.... channeling my trip. Or so I imagined. It was one the greatest memories of my life.

@BDB78 3 жыл бұрын

That had to be absolutely amazing!

@TaraNewhole 3 жыл бұрын

😍✌🏼💙🌺

@lynyrdcohynyrd8541 3 жыл бұрын

I was there too! I wasn’t tripping on anything, but it was an amazing show either way 😊

@margydunay5339 3 жыл бұрын

I was there too. Last time I saw him. One of the best memories of my life too.

@madhatter42o 2 жыл бұрын

That's badass

@nducati 4 жыл бұрын

Nobody wanted this to end, even now. Right now.

@michellemace6775 Жыл бұрын

Exactly what I remember. I remember having to pick my jaw up off the floor and looked at my husband like "WTF did we just hear". GLORY TO JERRY!!!!

@thomasbell6834 3 ай бұрын

OMG....that is an understatement. This is why we love the extensions....it just touches so many parts of my soul, it's like reading a novel...

@buttdreads 2 жыл бұрын

I remember holding my daughter to this song and dancing when she was a baby

@JackChiefton 3 ай бұрын

I’m so happy to read your memory. Those are the sweet things in life my friend.

@sixedition761 2 ай бұрын

I just listened to a recording I have of me rocking her to bed... We used to sing this to each other every night.... Minor ad-libs

@DrMJC13 2 ай бұрын

That is a very cool memory. Thanks for sharing

@dashjeffreys6998 3 жыл бұрын

Sweeter sound than anyone playing today. Jerry was a gift.

@nate4146 3 жыл бұрын

Needed a good cry this morning, thank you Jerry🌹⚡️💀 forever

@TaraNewhole 3 жыл бұрын

Me too, tonight. 🌹 ⚡️ 💀 FOREVER Uncle Jerry. Didn’t think I could love this song more.

@juliawilliamson9604 2 жыл бұрын

Absolutely! Thank you Jerry! You and Dylan were always there to drag me through to 68 years of age...

@darrenanderson2244 4 жыл бұрын

This one is special. Skipped school, drove 7 hours with best friend and got this. He passed several years back but I still remember our amazement watching Jerry and the band do this one. Never forget.

@nducati 2 жыл бұрын

the man was in his pocket for this stretch.

@TaraNewhole 2 жыл бұрын

I won’t ever forget. I promise.

@dmarsh33785 2 жыл бұрын

I drove solo from Charleston. What a night.

@JustOneOpinion 2 жыл бұрын

❤️

@darrenanderson2244 Жыл бұрын

@@TaraNewhole Almost 30 years ago and sounds as good as it did that night! Take care,

@IraProctor 4 жыл бұрын

The person that gave this a thumbs down should have their thumbs and ears taken away.

@schothans 4 жыл бұрын

Yooh Ira, the one person that gave a thumbs down comes from the faraway country called Rimarimba. They do things a little different there. A thumbs down there means actually a thumb up in the west. So, at the moment of writing this video with beautiful music has 101 thumbs up an NO thumbs down!

@readmelancholystrumpetmaster 4 жыл бұрын

But they got you, didn't they?

@toastoftowne1076 3 жыл бұрын

Off with their thumbs I say Arggggggh. Thanks jer Aloha

@atravelerofbothtimespace4172 3 жыл бұрын

Kamala harris disliked this

@forestbirdgirl 3 жыл бұрын

Ira, IMHO, unfortunately they already have...

@BDB78 2 жыл бұрын

He will one day be revered as much as Mozart and Beethoven. How lucky we’ve been to share the planet with such a human! I’ll never stop loving the man, his music, and who he was.

@72darkstr Жыл бұрын

You are damn right. Truly under appreciated by the masses. Never before and never after was a musician as great and influential.

@larrydaiell Жыл бұрын

@@72darkstr I know for Deadheads, it may be hard to fathom; but you're 100% correct. He was absolutely positively underappreciated by the uninitiated, the uninformed, the non- cognoscenti, the Great Unwashed he's completely underrated and totally underappreciated !!!

@paulferranti8536 Жыл бұрын

Bob Dylan said , " We will never see his like again".We are fortunate and grateful!

@lmalsch3526 14 күн бұрын

No more needs to be said!🙏🙏❤️

@betrue311 4 күн бұрын

Such an iconic soul. Not just to the grateful dead family but the jerry Garcia family. Man n😭

@LeasaAnn 3 жыл бұрын

RIP Jerry 8/9/95.....miss you, but your music will live on for eternity..

@gratefulseedsavernogmo5172 4 жыл бұрын

Stops me in my tracks...every time! This was Church, This was Music in Emtion, THIS WAS JERRY...TEARS OF JOY!!! Play on, Brother!!!

@staggerleee1053 2 жыл бұрын

Tears of joy. Amen 🙏. Outsiders cannot understand this. We do.

@curtislitzler4945 2 жыл бұрын

Yes sir

@curtislitzler4945 2 жыл бұрын

@@staggerleee1053 I like it that way

@cherrygarcia16 5 ай бұрын

❤❤

@lovapanda1 2 жыл бұрын

Jerry’s playing was more than a show. It was an invitation, to follow him along wherever he decided to go, and it was pure magic. I wept through this after listening 4 times in a row. I hear whale calls through the the depths. Just astounding beauty. I miss him. No one does what he did or even comes close.

@juliawilliamson9604 2 жыл бұрын

You're right! No one even comes close. Fan since 69.

@tommathews3964 Жыл бұрын

That’s well said! I agree 1,000%! I’ve been so many places with Jerry, so far off in the woods and weeds, Miles out at sea, outer space, and right up to the edge when I wondered how we were getting back, but I always knew we would! He was an adventurer and welcomed us along! We were so lucky!!❤

@gratefulpan4707 Жыл бұрын

peace be with you

@donmiller3854 Жыл бұрын

so right. thank you. I'm right there with you, sister.

@BigRollBand 5 ай бұрын

Laura, the image of whale calls is fantastic - I agree with description and Jerry loved scuba diving. His high treble sound I sometimes describe as a sound coming thru a stone tunnel. I love the whale image - sublime !

@redwoodgirlbc Жыл бұрын

Just like goin' to church! JGB was and always will be my favorite band!

@tonybuscemi8545 4 жыл бұрын

I was at this show. Watching this made me cry. Damn, I miss this band so much. The crowd did not want it to end. This was one of the best moments of my life.

@rasdub 4 жыл бұрын

Tony Buscemi same!

@guysouerbry7010 4 жыл бұрын

Mine too brother.......Mine too

@123danks 4 жыл бұрын

I still don’t want it to end !

@lovinlifejosh3888 4 жыл бұрын

I didn't get to see Jerry live on stage... watching this always allows me to cry though, and keeps me here on Earth somehow

@JellyFilled4Justice 4 жыл бұрын

This was shot right in front of me. This was and will always be my favorite thing I've ever seen live. It still gives me the feels 25+ years later. To have this video basically shot from my exact vantage point it doesn't get more perfect than that. The crowd and band switching back and fort at the end is some special stuff getting to watch Jerry have fun on stage towards the end didn't happen much fist pump smiles and yeses! Thanks for the best times of my life. #RIPJerry

@nataliezementbeisser1492 2 жыл бұрын

Honey you are my shining star Don't you go away, oh baby I wanna be right here where you are Till my dying day, oh baby So many have tried, tried to find A love like yours and mine, oh baby Don't you realize how you hypnotise me Make me love you more each time, oh baby Honey, I'll never leave you lonely I'll give my love to you only, to you only To you only Honey you are my shining star Don't you go away, oh baby I wanna be right here where you are Till my dying day, oh baby Feel so good when we're lying here next to each other Lost in love, oh baby Honey when we touch, I love you so much You're all I ever dreamed of, oh baby Honey, I'll never leave you lonely I'll give my love to you only, to you only To you only Honey you are my shining star, don't you go away

@deadhead1977 3 жыл бұрын

Hands down the best times of my life were Jerry band shows.

@nducati 2 жыл бұрын

grateful dead is where jerry garcia wrote his sermon. jerry garcia band is where jerry garcia came to preach.

@iKOiKOheynow 2 жыл бұрын

Sweet as it gets, I miss these days so much thank you Jerry

@scottoc9811 2 жыл бұрын

I was in the same room as Jerry a couple hundred times. I saw a few Shining Star’s. They were all beyond words. I wasn’t at Hampton for this one. This one is so good it could cause world peace to break out if everyone would just listen….. and maybe humm

@pagelogsdon5574 10 ай бұрын

@user-xd7rc6eo8n 4 ай бұрын

Did you see the garden show from same year?

@dschainholz 2 жыл бұрын

Ah yes, the 25 minute Shining Star. It felt like it would go on for the whole second set. Jerry felt the LOVE from the audience, and integrated it into his rendition. Such a unique gift that has been replicated, but never duplicated.

@Shakes_The_Clone 4 жыл бұрын

This really was a magical experience. “Had to be there” doesn’t even begin to explain what it felt like for me.

@nyclear 3 жыл бұрын

Wasnt there but its still palpable!

@nedrobinson7490 Жыл бұрын

@@nyclear agree. I was too young, but it’s real. That’s how powerful it was and is. Love is real💛🕉

@user-zf6fv2sg1e 3 ай бұрын

Good old Grateful Dead

@SpacestationWilly Жыл бұрын

And for 25 minutes, heaven was in Hampton, Virginia

@michellemace6775 Жыл бұрын

I'm in tears. Best days of my life.. to be honest

@ktmidaho160 3 жыл бұрын

chills from start to finish on this one

@PIPER898 2 жыл бұрын

One of the most beautiful songs he ever played, and the coolest crowd singing chorus was awesome. What a moment in time 😅

@michellemace6775 Жыл бұрын

💯

@DrMJC13 2 ай бұрын

💯

@amyfairytrixy 4 жыл бұрын

Tis sweetest music to my ears! He will never go away...

@MyCleverHandle 2 жыл бұрын

He'll always be my #1 pick for best dinner guest. To be able to feed him the way his music fed me, makes me cry just thinking about it.

@hinthegroove9740 Жыл бұрын

When Jerry plays like this I swear I feel love in the air.

@novakaya Жыл бұрын

That feeling of laughing and crying at the same time so moved by the otherworldly majestic power and beauty pouring forth from him. A Shedder of Light A Bringer of Dawn A High Elder of the Galactic Psychedelic Council

@19gazelle 2 жыл бұрын

Jerry was amazing here, he’s amazing. These ladies were/are incredible. If you were there you know.., these ladies scoop you up in the palm of their hand. They knew how to capture the magic. It’s like a big hug all around.

@fredgrave2153 4 ай бұрын

Who are they? They’re great!

@trawl7880 4 жыл бұрын

Jerry was singing to us that night for sure. Letting us know for 24 minutes exactly how he feels. At least, That's how I remember it. Been a minute kids.

@nducati 4 жыл бұрын

20:30 dignifies the aforementioned.

@george.s.8491 4 жыл бұрын

Where is this from?

@trawl7880 4 жыл бұрын

@@george.s.8491 Hampton, Va

@davidpavelko4620 Жыл бұрын

That show was amazing on so many levels. What a night. Hampton was always special. That night was otherworldly. Thank you to all I went with. You know who you are.

@samdutkowsky2496 4 жыл бұрын

I've listened to this version dozens of times since discovering it a few weeks ago. I put it on when I'm hanging with my 8 mo old daughter and she never makes a peep. I think she's as mesmerized as me by Jerry playing his guitar.

@sixedition761 3 жыл бұрын

Used to Rick my baby girl to bed singing shining Star. Three-year-old, mind you, she knew the words (alternative lyrics 😉). photos.app.goo.gl/hiavb6zcqQumJvbE9

@rosebud1958 3 жыл бұрын

How precious!!! Bless our little ones 🙏❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

@atravelerofbothtimespace4172 3 жыл бұрын

Awes ❤️

@atravelerofbothtimespace4172 3 жыл бұрын

@@rosebud1958 ❤️

@rosebud1958 3 жыл бұрын

@@atravelerofbothtimespace4172 back at u ❤️🌹

@joeone3 3 жыл бұрын

I could be swimming in that water all day.

@onthebus11 29 күн бұрын

TY Last Song I ever heard Jerry play Seattle..........❤❤❤❤🌹🌹🐻🐻🐻🐻🎇🎇🎇🎇

@justsayknow7632 Жыл бұрын

Only this boss man can play this song right and is able to generate the fine feelings that come with it! Thank you Jerry!

@Sunflower0122Z 2 ай бұрын

This fall tour demonstrates that Jerry could still blow the room away. I saw four shows on this tour, and man I will never forget them. This is a masterclass kids.

@daveyboy8907 4 жыл бұрын

Always nailing a shinin ⭐️.. He was a shining star.. The best...

@biffjohnson7891 2 жыл бұрын

“A broken angel sings from a guitar “ Jerry Garcia Forever {♥️}::=}. 🔥🔥🔥🔥

@davedranginis4712 Жыл бұрын

I thought the band should have retired Stella, like you would a great's jersey.

@juliawilliamson9604 2 жыл бұрын

Electric guitar music is 90% awful noise, Jerry is absolutely magnificent, beautiful.. 53 years of appreciation. This version (like Dark Star) will reverberate in your head for ever, so lovely, oh so lovely ❤❤❤R.I.P. Jerry

@pango-y8j 2 жыл бұрын

Nah can't go 90% Clapton Robert Cray David Gilmour Jimmy Page BB King Muddy Waters Mississippi John Lee hurt Duane Allman Gary Duncan John chipolina Quicksilver Messenger Service Carlos Santana Jimi Hendrix although I've done my research I never got into Jimmy he couldn't Jam extended Groove Jam Trey Amazing Grace Anastasio h. E. R. The roots on Jimmy Fallon Derek Trucks Warren Haynes Tedeschi Trucks Band Dickey Betts f*** even slash is pretty good so is Neal Schon from Journey where is more than a second or Rhythm guitarist John McLaughlin mahavishnu Orchestra played with Miles Davis so I'm willing to accept the percentage I just cannot buy 90%, you're obviously go Carlos Santana John McLaughlin John mahavish new McLaughlin Carlos deverdeep Santana a Love Supreme after John coltrane's love surrender and devotion which no one would touch cuz it was sacred but Carlos and John did I bet you don't even know that album exist Rastafari

@pango-y8j 2 жыл бұрын

Tucson Tucson Arizona Sonoran Desert cactus hot sun rocks lizards bake like a snake even the tortoise seek shade coyote javelina bobcat crazy insects beautiful birds ground squirrels and rabbits and Ravens and Hawks and eagles and owls no rain Africa Ethiopia Addis Ababa Selassie I Mama Africa

@leothecuisinart 10 ай бұрын

I used to not like his playing so much. Now i think he was inconsistent and it was probably influenced by his problems with substances. Clearly he had his moments like this where he played quite beautifully.

@cherrygarcia16 5 ай бұрын

I saw The Jerry Garcia Band at the Warfield 2 nights in a row 5 months before he passed. When he did Shining Star, it was absolutely the best rendition I'd ever heard! Where was this recorded? The song touched me to my soul & a few years later, this was the song my husband & I danced our 1st dance to at our wedding. I miss Jerry so so much! But I'm forever Grateful for the many shows I was able to attend & all the music he shared with the world! I hope to see him again in that Big Band in the Sky some day! ❤✌

@jaydubbz69able Жыл бұрын

The Leader of the heart of gold band beyond description! Captain Jerome Jerry John Garcia the Grateful Saint of Sacred Sound just laying it the hell down with all he had for his life to us all! 30 years upon his head!! What a magnificent human Be-ing and one of the rarest, Gratest most prolific musician's musicians that has or will ever exist forever under eternityyy, blue! He was the Shining Star and seriously a world hero! His music will never fade and it will never decay or get old. Everything he ever touched is timeless! NFA

@Skydog4145 2 ай бұрын

Jerry is a legend. Period.

@bpbatlaw Жыл бұрын

Jerry seems to be reveling or at least basking in the crowd's love and participation. Elegiac and moving today. Thanks for sharing.

@davs.7970 9 ай бұрын

JGB shows will always be some of my favorite concert memories. I had fun but now look back at how special they really were. Nothing like it.

@RidgeMahoney 6 ай бұрын

He had an uncanny ear for selecting the musicians and arrangements for each incarnation of JGB. It wasn't always great but at times the magic took over and when it did the world got a little bit better.

@davekennedy4498 3 жыл бұрын

Jerry made you feel like you were on drugs listening to his playing even when you were straight as an arrow

@jamjax 2 жыл бұрын

That little exploration with the whammy pedal was just such a moment in time.

@thomastittmann2967 Жыл бұрын

The web is my definition of “heaven” and here we meet all the souls who are STILL making our world better and better……

@paulbosetti4871 2 жыл бұрын

Glad I was at this show ! Something about the spaceship Hampton Coliseum for both the GD and JGB.

@scotth6456 3 күн бұрын

Last night at Blue Note Hawaii, a great band called Skeleton Krewe All-Star band (Stephen Inglis, Pete Sears, Barry Sless, Rob Baracco, Wally Ingram) did a show for Jerry’s birthday. They played this and it was by far the highlight of the night. If you can find a copy of it online, do yourself a favor and listen. happy birthday Jerry in 2024 - the world misses you.

@kylebourne6839 Жыл бұрын

Wow..Jerry Garcia was such a poetic player. Incredible nuance and subtlety.

@hilltopmel9150 2 жыл бұрын

I still have my stub ❤️

@srburress Жыл бұрын

Holding my wife, standing, swaying, tears streaming down my face. Deeply touching my emotion.

@garypanebianco7759 2 жыл бұрын

Only Jerry can bring this home!

@michaelshearer3559 3 жыл бұрын

I can't even imagine how moving it would be hearing these songs live. I saw Jerry perform with the Dead nearly 20 times, and always regret not prioritizing a JGB show. I just thought I'd get the chance at the time. As a guitarist I always saw this band as such a peaceful place for Jerry to play. Thanks for sharing this great video.

@Acolis 3 жыл бұрын

i never saw jerry. i wasnt really into the dead scene at the time. i was like... 8 maybe 9. we lived in maryland and my sister tried to take me to the rfk stadium shows in the early 90s several times and i always turned down the offer.

@Dr3amtime 3 жыл бұрын

Doesn't get much sweeter than this.

@michellemace6775 Жыл бұрын

One of the best "live" songs I e never heard. What a treat it felt like. MSG on Halloween. Fucking classic!!!! How miss uncle Jerry!!!!

@lexluthor9779 Жыл бұрын

The Big Man was loved enough for many lifetimes during his life. He gave it all back too. He is what he is, the leader of the Grateful Dead, the only ones who ever did what they did.

@pauleandersonmusic Ай бұрын

this brought me to tears...in good way! Thanks Jerry

@BrandonPetrucci 2 жыл бұрын

My god I was there and this show was every bit as incredible as any of my 53 Grateful Dead shows...the 2nd set lineup of this Shining Star had me in a dreamland to the Strugglin man to The Maker to the Don't let go!!! it was a journey

@neeeo694 8 ай бұрын

The desperate songs are the most beautiful

@ColinGazley 3 жыл бұрын

God Bless this man.

@OGChiefDotConnector 5 жыл бұрын

Such sweet sweet sounds and damn if Jerry doesn't just go for it....and stay with it.... how could you NOT believe honey, you were his shining star?!?!?

@lizziesangi1602 4 жыл бұрын

@Andy Greider Noooo. That you "are" his SHINING STAR. Not, "were" his SHINING STAR.

@nducati 2 жыл бұрын

papa loved him some lightning bolt.

@john70803 2 жыл бұрын

What a fantastic soulful band.

@stevehall7601 2 ай бұрын

Reminds me of a line from a Robert Service poem - my God! but that man could play.

@jerrylaurita983 Ай бұрын

I miss it. All of it. So grateful to have helped the dead.

@thomaskonicke2974 11 ай бұрын

I feel so lucky to have seen Jerry. Jerry was lucky to have such an attentive audience….we hung on every note together…so special. That feeling of being there and wishing such a beautiful moment is captured here. Heart is full❤

@TheDougKaplan 4 жыл бұрын

JERRY IS GOAT

@mortenandersen2264 5 ай бұрын

Jerry, and the Dead makes me forgive and reflect

@thedripsepodcastnetwork2910 3 жыл бұрын

He made my life better

@albertmiller3082 2 жыл бұрын

This extraordinary performance is truly immortal

@bluegirlsoul9043 Жыл бұрын

The Spaceship 21 yrs old listening to Jerry play a song I danced in the kitchen with my mom

@markcraven3842 Жыл бұрын

Jerrys playing was pure emotion. No one else like him. Love and miss Jerry. Peace....

@user-qy6yn4kl8d 2 жыл бұрын

Features Lightning Bolt with its piezo pickups. An unsolicited fan-built guitar by Stephen Cripe, a yacht builder who blew his ass up making fireworks.

@paulferranti8536 Жыл бұрын

"Inspiration, move me brightly"

@catekatz5855 3 ай бұрын

I was at this show! We were in a loge or balcony section on Jerry’s side. Not fancy seats, but Hampton isn’t as big as some other venues so I was happy! I was a college student at the time and a group of us drove out from Greensboro, NC for the show. Was SO stoked Jerry played this song!! 🤪❤️💀🥀⚡️

@beaulyons1977 Жыл бұрын

Rest In Paradise, Jerome ✌🏽🌹🫶🏼

@knot4time757 20 күн бұрын

Papa Bear was and is a beautiful gift. He was a storyteller on the strings. His job was to shed light and not to master. And he did. ✌️

@EvanPriceMusicChannel 2 ай бұрын

Mad ❤❤❤ to all the fam on this tour.. After a mostly bone chilling time romping around the Northeast in November... how nice it was to end the tour in the warmth of the south before the winter set in... all the comments from those in attendance is touching to reflect upon the times shared together... Bless Fam❤

@heyitsmespider6792 4 жыл бұрын

I guess so 22 plus minutes God Bless Papa

@rosebud1958 3 жыл бұрын

Someone very special sent this song to me!!! Over flowing w Love!! My sweetheart!! 🙏❤️❤️😘

@stacispence521 3 жыл бұрын

I was there

@pokchee297 5 жыл бұрын

Hampton.... I was just a kid at this... this is why Jerry was the man... John khan was the man too

@stuartasankowich8506 4 жыл бұрын

John Kahn is the man too. Your words not mine Just another h addict user friend towards the real fine gentleman Jerry

@aaspendlove 4 жыл бұрын

@@stuartasankowich8506 little early for that man

@luciangoodman2798 4 жыл бұрын

Aaron Spendlove John Kahn was incredibly gifted. Jerry is a gentleman but John is a junkie? Both struggled, no one persons fault.

@tpd707nyc 4 жыл бұрын

I've been looking for this version for years! Indeed it is his best ever!. Thank you.

@rachaelrogers5977 3 жыл бұрын

We still miss you Jerry ❤️⚡️💙

@wehaveasituation 5 ай бұрын

This excursion by Jerry is really a testament to the new guitar, his last. He's savoring the wonderful tones--just a bit different (and 5 lbs lighter) in the chimy sounds down low.

@marley8782 Жыл бұрын

Tears are flowing with no resistance. Thank you Jerry

@paulferranti8536 2 ай бұрын

At the end …they are CLEARLY singing to and with the audience

@jimdekis1 6 ай бұрын

Jerry exemplified Unconditional Love!

@daghaslemo8881 3 жыл бұрын

Fantastic. Beautiful. Great.

@gratefuldrifter6588 2 жыл бұрын

Peacefull is what i love,im going outside get loaded lie in the grass and stare at those beautiful stars.The tune keeps playing,love and respect to the deadheads worldwide.

@1971walstib 4 жыл бұрын

Who’s the 1 dope that gave this a thumbs down? Dope 👍🏽

@OneMoreCupOf 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks a lot. I love the tone he had playing the LightningBolt. :-)

@caseythompson4179 9 ай бұрын

i was there...,.im still shining

@garydefoe4137 3 ай бұрын

Hey warrior I believe you have really come along way stronger now I'm so proud of you ❤️❤️

@Gary-fk9ot 2 ай бұрын

True blue R and B.. miss ya buddy

@user-qy6yn4kl8d 2 ай бұрын

Forgot to mention, this was David Kemper's last show. After 11 years with the band, he was dismissed sans explanation. In 2022 Rolling Stone reported Steve Parish was behind it, but who really knows... Healy was later dismissed, and other strange things happened during that period. It was a long time ago now.