I don't think I've ever felt so old as just now, realizing that not only do toy smartphones exist, they've existed for long enough for an adult to have had as a little kid.

​@@scirrhia_kruden The oldest Zoomers (Gen Z) are 27 years old, the youngest are 12 years old. In 2030 every Zoomer is legally an adult (in most of the world). If you were born on the day the iPhone came out you would be an adult next year. I, 22 have never lived in a world without the consequences of 9/11 and the patriot act as those events happened a year prior to my birth. Only the very first year of Zoomers('97) have lived in a world without Google(Sep '98).

I only wanted guns and darkness as a child, not toy phones.

​@@Meet_Your_Death ironically (and tragically) I feel like the world's coming full circle right back to that from great depression to great mental depression or something like that...

Bro how old are you???? Lmao got my bones aching and shit 😂😂😂😂. For a moment I forgot I was turning 40 in 6 years... Then I came across your comment 😢

Thats his thing for years

Oh yes, that was unexpected

💔💔💔

Hence his legendary name; jerryRIGSeverything?

Kind of heartbreaking

For real. I love my paperwhite e-reader since I can see it in the sun. I wish more devices had this or an anti-glare screen.

@@nutmeg9593well considering how limiting it is why would the kindle not be enough.

In what way. It’s a very limited technology.

@@tysonchickennuggetstrue, there’s a lot of very specific limitations but I’m sure it could be used in clever ways. E ink phones have always kind of appealed to me but they lack a lot of useful functions that I wouldn’t be able to do without. But I’d love to see something like a hybrid smartwatch with an e-ink display behind analog watch hands. Public information displays could be cool, or menus? Idk tbh

⁠doesn’t the new M4 iPad Pro give you the option to get that anti glare screen?

Who would want ro buy this? It doesnt look even that intresting

​@myvalekcz6656 it don't matter, it just hurts 😢

@@myvalekcz6656 even the worst of the product is sometimes become s a distance choice to buy for millions

​@@myvalekcz6656as someone who gets sucked into the dazzling world of OLED high refresh screen on my pixel, I'd like something like this to keep me focused on essential tasks and not mindless content consumption

@@myvalekcz6656 I would. I see it as a better ereader.

bro so much

Gave me the chills

I thought i was the only one

We love Trump

@@MickSchwager-gu5wp yes we do

I wonder how many times he tried before getting that right

It's not perpetual though

ppppppppp

People pop in and park paragraphs positioned to public pupils, pitting pairs of perfectly predominant peepers to pry upon possibly pathetic poems of past points.

Now say it 3 times as fast 😅

😂😂 Can’t wait to see them invent an explosive phone like Samsung 😂

Niiiiiiice

*cough* 6 plus *cough* iPad m4 pro *cough*

Just goes to show how innovative Apple is. They introduced a folding phone all the way back in 2014 with iPhone 6, long before Samsung and the others.

@@B1-4976*cough* 2018 iPad Pro *cough*

innovation 😱😱😱

then patents and sues the hell out of everyone that tries to use it including the original creater.

@@icemuckbanggg yeah and a lot of companies do that.

The fact he said "invent" is ironic as hell. It already exists. How can apple invent something that already exists that's not invention it's just stupidity xD

@@user-uu9ru3de1y It’s both an ironic joke, since apple always claims to invent anything they use (and usually give it a new name) and an actual point, since apple usually only jumps to new tech once it already matured enough to make a good mainstream product (like the late jump to face recognition, which was a feature of android, but that pushed the face recognition to not just analyze a picture)

Fossil has a e ink hybrid smartwatch

Garmin Fenix line has the classic watch LCD display!

@@tarriqpurivatra4016 I think they’re also quitting watchmaking.

​@@tarriqpurivatra4016has or had? They dropped wear os from their future lineup, but it's not clear if that included the hybrid watches or not

I had the fossil hybrid and it was never a great alternative, never tried the others but nothing will ever compare to the friendliness and price of a pebble. Now I just use an amazfit band for the 8 day battery life and all I care about are the notifications.

Its really hard to make it runs faster than 15/20 hz, so its very limited for many tasks. But for wearables and some specific technology could be really amazing

@@NVidiero Try 3-5 Hz, and even then that's in overdrive mode that drains the battery which defeats the point of even having e-ink screen in the first place, and the image artifacts really go through the roof.

Reflective LCD is actually the most underrated seeing as most people have not heard of it. No refresh rate issues or degredation.

@@WildKard123 what's difference b/w reflective lcd and e-ink ?

​@@maksadnahibhoolna-wc2efit's more like a standard calculator or game boy color, but with no backlight. The backlight kills battery, so if you work in a bright environment you are using very little power, whereas a traditional display means you have to crank the backlight to full (or your phone does it automatically) and you run out your battery faster.

Exactly. It’s just a downgrade

Iy will save your eyes this is the important thing for me

If you don't watch videos on it, the battery will last for days Cheap idk. I've seen one like 8 years ago for $200. E-ink was still pretty slow back then.

Battery last 2 week no problem

It has long battery life. The primary purpose of this is for reading e-books but have been upgraded to have sim slot to act like a phone. It's cheaper compared to mainstream full fledged phones. I want to have this just for planner, calendar, notes etc but I might need coloured version for electronics books. And I don't think I'm gonna enjoy the coloured e-ink tech yet. So I might just be better of with entry or mid smartphones as second device and a flagship as main.

God of reviewtion

Same

Basically, it's crystals in fluid, that with an electric charge, will either move up to the top of their pixel, or down to the bottom, making each pixel either black or white, and modern ones have variability for grays too. It's like an etch-a-sketch except with electricity instead of being manual lol

me too 😂

​@@johnxina2140 Are they unlike LCDs in that they then don't require continuous power to remain in that momentary display state, so they appear to still be "on"/draining power - ? (Whereas LCDs do in fact continually draw momentary display power?)

@@justinklenk exactly, due to the viscosity of the fluid and the properties or the crystals, when no charge is applied they simply stay in their current position, which is why they ha e such good battery life. With an e-reader especially, the only time the battery is being used is when the page is being turned, or any time the backlight is being used

my autism attacked with that one

​@@will.1984 💀😭

EXACTLY - That's a perfect analogy.

"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."

same

Felt it in my nails

That's what I was thinking about😂 my brain hurts lol

DUDE I ALMOST PUKED 😂😂💀thank god I wasn’t the only one who got absolutely side swiped wearing headphones

Law-suit! LOL

Hate to see it. Like how will that ever be a real life use case

​@donharry20 you'd be surprised how many people who have their phones hanging out in the back pocket end up sitting on them.

@@IChewyI’m thankful I’ve never done that. If I’m out of the house, my phone lives in my back right pocket, and I’ve never yet sat on it, because I’m conscious of it being there and know how much it cost me.

I've seen ppl have their phones broken due to sitting or something and it bending due to the pressure

Yeah I don't intentionally damage my phone but knowing how much it can withstand is important information to know before you make a purchase.

a toy testing a toy. but thats ok

The transitions are smooth but It's like 2 seconds per frame.

This is actually fairly standard for e-inks of the past decade. I've owned a cheap android e-ink tablet since 2018 and it has this same "mode". Essentially it has two refresh modes. The first is the traditional method where the entire screen refreshes and inverts the colours to prevent ghosting (what you see in the full video when Zack pushes a refresh button). The second "quick" mode which will only change the pixels that need changing, but it causes ghosting since the pixel doesn't get the time it needs to fully refresh by inverting the colours. I may not be explaining it well, but it has to do with the limitations of e-ink displays and how it's actually ink being physically moved forward or backwards with electricity to either show the dark ink as black, hidden away for a white, or some level in between for a different shade of gray.

​@@JarvinTheJaryeah that's a large part of why it looks so smooth, it's bc the frame rarely changes when your looking at a static image 😂 e ink is awesome tho forsure, but I would hate to have it as the ONLY option for my phone, and I think most would agree LOL. What we need is a phone that comes with e-ink panel for reading books/all text, and an OLED panel as well for normal phone usage and doing things like watching videos, playing games, etc. Until then the best option is using a separate e ink device for reading. Hopefully someone is able to make a phone/tablet like this soon! Maybe one has already been made as well..?! I haven't looked into it but I imagine the engineering challenges would make this quite difficult!

​@@dvargas3553 Yes, IIRC, SciShow recently did a quick mention of this technological possibility in their video about the troubles with looking at displays outside in the sun and why e-ink is inherently better for doing so.

​@@JarvinTheJar I'm sorry, did you watch the same video? There are at least 10 frames per second shown here, and that's really crazy high for e-ink.

Wrong actually. E-Ink screens are measured in PPI not DPI. They arrange clusters of those ink "dots" in squares and put them in a grid format to make pixels. Look at the E Ink Carta HD. It's a 6 inch E-ink screen with a resolution of 300 PPI at 1080 x 1440. Just thought I'd let you know. You're welcome

@@PlatinumEagleStudios that's news to me actually, cause I remember the first time I searched for e-book readers they were giving the resolution in DPI... Thank you for letting me know that they changed it though xD

That’s the joke, Apple have a history of taking ideas from other devices, putting a minor spin on it, then take all the credit. They’ve been doing it less in recent years though to my knowledge.

This is a ripoff too.

Why?

Mostly battery I believe, this tipe of screens consume very little of it. Also a lot of peaple really like them to read.

@@thomasmoller5178 agreed on both points (battery, easy reading) question is why do you thing it would make a good productivity phone, since screen refresh frequency is very low, response is slow (and the specific device) seems to have fairly low durability. (not antagonizing, just trying to figure out your thinking and what points i may be missing)

@@pasmas3217 he might mean because you arent distracted by all the colors a normal phone would have. Alot of the colors of a normal smart phone grab attention from users, the blaring red notificaiton being an example.

​@@liamstewart389 Too the screens don't hurt your eyes from brightness and you can use them right before bed or right in the morning without getting sore eyes or getting blasted with 1100 Nits of brightness. If a device like this was built with a metal body and even a midrange slightly older chipset and like 4GB of ram it would actually be really good and it would load fast enough that the display would be the only limiting factor. Basically by building the phone like that it would keep costs down and it could be better marketed towards "cheap" work phones if they were priced at $130/£100/€120. Also if they removed cameras entirely it would make it slimmer and cheaper and it would make it look better overall, most use cases don't need cameras in regards to work phones, it only needs to be able to read text and reply to said text while also having the ability to make phone calls and so a basic speaker would be all that would be needed and at most 64GB or of which that is more of a standard nowadays 128GBs of storage but more realistically 64GB would be what would be in the phone at that price.

Never gets old

Java Runtime Environment?

@@strobo3737Joe Rogan Experience

Joe Rogan Experience ?

do you think he own license for that sentence? 🤔😉

Absolutely amazing arrangement of annotations there, acquaintance.

First guess, I would say teenagers that stick the phone in their back pocket and sit.

​@@metalwolf112002Is that an american thing? I've literally never seen anyone sit with their phone on their back pocket, only wallets AT MOST

@Prowlyi sadly, yes. Women's front pants pockets are usually horribly small or non-existent. When I was in high school there were more than a few girls walking around with phones that had a cracked screen at minimum. Some of the bigger girls had phones that no longer were completely flat.

​@@metalwolf112002Ah that makes more sense, thanks!

People who put their cell phone in their back pocket then hop in their forklift (me) or hop into their car seat etc….

Why the shitty company need to make this, so they're copycat afterall?

@@Yippeee5959No, not really. Anti-Apple people just like to pretend that Apple copies everyone else, while ignoring how many things they do first. When Apple uses someone else's tech, it's "copying"... when someone uses Apple's tech, it's "innovation".

Invent? Invent means that find something first before anyone. If Apple do this later, It is not call invention but copying

I hope not. They'd overprice it to hell 😂

@@isuruthiwanka2595 I wasn’t being serious. I was mocking carterPCs. I don’t like Apple or what they “innovate”

his tests are mostly an "extreme" example of regular wear and tear, to gove the viewer an idea of how well the phone will hold up (bend test is to simulate sitting on your phone) while the bend test is likely a little extreme in most cases, i have had a phone bend on me (no real damage, just a bit of a bend.) and he has had a couple phones catastrophically fail (as in the phone snapped in half)

@@Reverend_Salem Well they're not though are they? To show regular wear and tear would require a machine capable of doing the same thing over and over again much like they do in Ikea when they show a chair cushion being pushed in hundreds of thousands of times. If you push something far enough then you'll push past its breaking point and it will snap however you could use it normally for many many many years and never ever have any problem at all with it. We as children were taught to look after everything we were given and I'm not kidding when I say I've never had one single electronic item that has ever broken on me save for a monitor which had an internal electronic fault which had been introduced due to poor manufacturing. Phones will catastrophically fail if you exert that much force on them but if you're looking after your device then that should never ever happen. They can't be made from material that can never bend as that just doesn't exist. Well not at the size and thickness we're talking about here anyway. I just think everyone has the point already that if you stress them too much then they will break. I just find in this day and age where we need to be thinking even more about looking after everything that this is just wasteful. Probably just me and the way I was brought up but that's what I believe anyway.

​@@MarkBowenPiano I subjected my phone to a "regular wear and tear test" accidentally by sitting in the car with the phone in the back pocket. That's not too far from what he did in the video.

It's just an indicator. Imagine if it broke after a slight flex? You wouldn't want to buy that item would you? I agree with your sentiments and have never killed any phone I have ever owned, (just jinxed myself there). Take these as consumer advice.

womp womp

Back pockets

Plenty of people carry these in their pockets and probably accidentally sit on them occasionally. Even being careful you will flex the phone occasionally, not to that extent, but good to know a slight flex won't kill a phone. Having said that it would be good to see some measurement of force used. I've had plastic bodied phones and they are generally fine.

iPhone 6 Plus left the chat

Comments like this and the ones that thumbs them up are light years ahead in stupid chart.

Oh yea? Why’s that?

Probably measured in years lol

Asus ,redmagic, sony experia also have Audiojack

nearly every phone except for iphones and Samsung phones has a headphones jack

@PFnove no . Flagships by oneplus, vivo , realme, xiaomi, nothing, huawei doesn't have Audiojack

@@wheely4405 i have yet to see one but sure

Why tf would you use wired headphones, good luck untangling them 😂

No cuz what if someone wanna use it as phone not tablet. It’s like saying get iPad instead of iPhone it’s cheaper.

​@@24kCookieMusicno apple garbage is cheap.

​@@hazmat4629 Get an elementary reading book, dude.

But can it make calls and text and also pocketable?

You can get a smartwatch for less than 20 dollars and use it for making and answering calls, provided it is connected to your existing phone. A eink tablet plus a smartwatch is actually cheaper and arguably better.

I always loved the looks of them....

You're a an eink phone, harry

Ok?? No one has much historical understanding anymore

@@phonkyfeel1 what? that they threw out the 'newton' idea as a gimmick only to have jobs bring it back as the 'iphone' ? neat.. palm pilot says hi...

I did, it's like scratching a plate with a fork or knife *shudder*

They have one

Hisense A7 CC is the colour e-ink version phone...

Yeah, the 'Hisense A7 CC' 😎🇬🇧

@@thedarkknight1971Nice. Never knew that

Yotaphone wasn't the first phone to have an e-ink display.

@@MirekFe ikr. It was Motorola f3, and Samsung alias 2 later. But yota made the first smartphone with fully functional touch e-ink display.

@@Important_stuff True.

@@MirekFe but to be honest, Yota-phone was a laggy piece of shit

Yeah. The second one was awesome. But pretty expensive

Yea I miss the unique devices. That was the main appeal of android for me. Even the LG ‘s with the quad dac’s offered something special. Those days are gone. Even the Samsung galaxy edge’s were dope. They don’t seem to do curved edges anymore, and when they’re done it’s a nano curve. Shame the edge line is gone. I love getting edged.

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@@MiauMichigan I said this in Mr. Crabs voice lol

It doesn’t. It’s a dumb dig at Apple. The boy assumes that Apple has not experimented with e-ink. Silly rabbit.

He needs the clicks. Because no one is interested in Hisense other than buying a cheap tv or a washing machine.

Because a Harvard study shows e-Ink’s ePaper is up to three times healthier for your eyes than LCD screens. The first generations of color e-Ink are now here and if production gets cheaper we might see better marketing towards this healthier option. A problem might be: The refresh rate is not really there yet, so given that smartphones are specially designed to be more engaging so people spend as much time as possible using them in order to make profits for big data companies and bombard people with direct or indirect marketing, I'm not sure eInk screens can be just as stimulating to actually take the place that LCD has nowadays. But hey, it can still be a better option for those who rather keep their eyes healthier and avoid being hooked to their hand machine socially engineered to make people a slave to it. These are my two cents.

lmfao

Would u believe that phone manufacturers actually send him the phones so that he can break test them? That's his thing man, and that's why his channel is popular.

Are you walking around believing that Apple cannot adopt these features? There is a discernible difference between not wanting and not being able.